Agreed. If Gary lets this kinda stuff be on here, I'm gonna be AWOL till next fall. There are pleny of other sites for the political stuff.Originally posted by atwanmac:
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Agreed. If Gary lets this kinda stuff be on here, I'm gonna be AWOL till next fall. There are pleny of other sites for the political stuff.Originally posted by atwanmac:
Take this sh!t to another site.
Originally posted by sabrose:
People get minimal information and vote on shallow preferences or out of perceived personal benefit. Alot of voters were afraid their food stamps would cut off ,pensions stopped etc unless they voted for Obama.The problem is there is a point at which a government collapses due to too many people sucking from the government and too few paying in. Insanely, the government has been inviting in illegal aliens and teaching them how to apply for govt assistance when the government is broke. It sues states to prevent them from deporting illegals and making sure they dont vote.
WE are at a level where our yearly deficits are more than our GDP and a president just got elected who will do nothing about it because there are now a majority of voters who are too stupid to understand history and economics. They blame Bush for the economy when it was the Democrats running Fannie Mae into the ground. Bush tried to stop it and the Democrats including Frank, Dodd ,and Waters shouted him down. They fault Bush for spending on the prescription assistance when the Democrats proposed a much more expensive plan. Bush had incompetent or corrupt Securities and exchange monitors.
The fact is both Bush and Obama are incompetent but Obama stands for a system doomed to failure. When the drones that voted for Obama stop getting checks because the treasury is in freefall they will get their just dessert. People with the foresight to avoid the clutches of this current government will be the ones that save it after it collapses.People will learn if you dont work you dont eat and if you pop out 5 babies with no husband or means of support you will pay back society for your irresponsibility.
Originally posted by BAMA CANE.:
Where it came from? as in Alabama? Well i can tell you as a 3rd generation Floridian, the clowns are the ones that re-elected this man and one day you too will see the error in this. You must not have a 401k.
Thats BS and you know it. The Republican party passed the Civil rights Bills despite opposition from the Democrats and the Emancipation Proclamation was written by the first Republican president . Conservatives that I know only care about ability not race when they employ people. Thats why the majority of the public doesnt like racial quotas of any kind. Its the libs that are always classifying people along racial groups. Its frankly pitifulOriginally posted by Alaskan Cane:
Except in the case of sex in the privacy of ones home, civil marriage, and a woman's control and rights over her own body. Oh yea, and as long as were keeping Govt out of individual lives, lets bring back the individual right of any business man to discriminate against anyone including because of the color of their skin.
Originally posted by majus12:
Sammy,
Even with those large numbers Republicans will over come, SIMPLY BECUASE GOVT CANT AND SHOULDNT RUN INDIVIDUAL LIVES[/B]
As for the clown that made fun of 401K, you must be 22 otherwise you wouldnt post such a dumb ass thoughts
Originally posted by sabrose:
Thats BS and you know it. The Republican party passed the Civil rights Bills despite opposition from the Democrats and the Emancipation Proclamation was written by the first Republican president . Conservatives that I know only care about ability not race when they employ people. Thats why the majority of the public doesnt like racial quotas of any kind. Its the libs that are always classifying people along racial groups. Its frankly pitiful
Alaskan,Originally posted by Alaskan Cane:
I agree completely. Lets get these Teat sucking fools off the govt dole. That would be the Oil companies that get HUGE subsidies, Corporations given tax breaks for having their headquarters overseas, and Hedgefund managers who get HUGE tax breaks. amongst other TEAT SUCKERS.
Oh, and by the way, I only respond to this thread to keep you rightwingnuts from feeling completely isolated in your FoxNewsBubble and spend all your time talking to each other and patting yourselves on the back about how smart you are.
Originally posted by CashvilleCane1:
@AlaskanCane, Really? So you think if we go back to states rights it will lead us back to slavery or segregation? Is that what you're saying? I just want to be sure because that's what it sounds like you're saying. That would be the most ridiculous statement ever! Do you think every white man wishes he had a slave. I grew up in the south and until I moved to TN, I was really not used to hearing all this kind of talk. I wasn't raised that way nor was anyone I even knew. Now I live in TN and I see people all the time making snide little comments but the strange thing is the ones making the comments are not even white. I'm about done with all this. Race baiters are coming out of the woodwork in this country and its a damned shame
Bush didn't crash the markets and the economy. It was policies dating back to Clinton that compelled banks to give mortgages to people that couldn't afford them under the guise of "racial equality". What happened is that now a lot more people could buy houses which made values start going up (due to supply and demand). Once the values started going up the banks got more loose in their lending because they didn't care if people foreclosed. The value was up anyway so the bank could sell it. Everybody was happy until 2008 when the prices got to the point that people couldn't afford to keep buying. Once the values started to drop everything crashed because now the foreclosures caused huge losses. The paper losses made things worse and the Banking industry collapse killed the economy.Originally posted by ucfgoon51:
Bunch of bitter conservatives...romeny lost...deal with it somewhere else besides a football message board....whats the worst obama can do?....crash the stock market?...ruin the auto industry?....crash the housing market?...watch entitlements flare out of control?....it already happened!..under neo-conservatism.....he bailed out the same people who payed millions to block his re-election...what happened in 2008 is poor peoples fault?....i didnt know poor people had stocks and gambled it all away to the point they crashed the stock market....lol.....fools...obama is YOUR president...cry about it!
Originally posted by SuperCane27:
The disrespect some of you are showing OUR President of the United States is disconcerting. Whether you voted for him or not, he is our leader for the next 4 years and you should try to get behind him. I for one, voted for Mr. Obama and am damn proud of it. And no, I'm not a minority; I just believe in his vision for our great country. I encourage you all to read the The Audacity of Hope and understand where he's coming from with some of his "leftist" policies. It's not marxism, and it's sure as hell not communism.
+1,000,000, well said!!Originally posted by sabrose:
People get minimal information and vote on shallow preferences or out of perceived personal benefit. Alot of voters were afraid their food stamps would cut off ,pensions stopped etc unless they voted for Obama.The problem is there is a point at which a government collapses due to too many people sucking from the government and too few paying in. Insanely, the government has been inviting in illegal aliens and teaching them how to apply for govt assistance when the government is broke. It sues states to prevent them from deporting illegals and making sure they dont vote.
WE are at a level where our yearly deficits are more than our GDP and a president just got elected who will do nothing about it because there are now a majority of voters who are too stupid to understand history and economics. They blame Bush for the economy when it was the Democrats running Fannie Mae into the ground. Bush tried to stop it and the Democrats including Frank, Dodd ,and Waters shouted him down. They fault Bush for spending on the prescription assistance when the Democrats proposed a much more expensive plan. Bush had incompetent or corrupt Securities and exchange monitors.
The fact is both Bush and Obama are incompetent but Obama stands for a system doomed to failure. When the drones that voted for Obama stop getting checks because the treasury is in freefall they will get their just dessert. People with the foresight to avoid the clutches of this current government will be the ones that save it after it collapses.People will learn if you dont work you dont eat and if you pop out 5 babies with no husband or means of support you will pay back society for your irresponsibility.
Excellent post!Originally posted by FightinIbis:
Originally posted by SuperCane27:
The disrespect some of you are showing OUR President of the United States is disconcerting. Whether you voted for him or not, he is our leader for the next 4 years and you should try to get behind him. I for one, voted for Mr. Obama and am damn proud of it. And no, I'm not a minority; I just believe in his vision for our great country. I encourage you all to read the The Audacity of Hope and understand where he's coming from with some of his "leftist" policies. It's not marxism, and it's sure as hell not communism.
Getting behind a democratic President is one thing...Bill Clinton was fine by me.
Getting behind somebody telling me what freedoms he prefers me to have, what insurance I must carry, and how and where to save the amount of income I have left over once he taxes the shit out of me...sorry, I have never lived in that country and do not have to be happy or "get behind" ideas that contradict the founding principals of the U.S.
UM
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Originally posted by Alaskan Cane:
No, what I'm saying is, and read carefully, if we went back to States Rights over Fed Rights, WE COULD return to pre-Civil war America. I'm not saying WE WOULD. The point is, the CONSTITUTION is a FEDERAL DOCUMENT and overrides States Rights.
Originally posted by CashvilleCane1:
@AlaskanCane, Really? So you think if we go back to states rights it will lead us back to slavery or segregation? Is that what you're saying? I just want to be sure because that's what it sounds like you're saying. That would be the most ridiculous statement ever! Do you think every white man wishes he had a slave. I grew up in the south and until I moved to TN, I was really not used to hearing all this kind of talk. I wasn't raised that way nor was anyone I even knew. Now I live in TN and I see people all the time making snide little comments but the strange thing is the ones making the comments are not even white. I'm about done with all this. Race baiters are coming out of the woodwork in this country and its a damned shame
No, Obama told all those demographic groups what they wanted to hear (as well as scared women that Romney would make birth control illegal) and they voted for him (less than they did in 2008 BTW). He is a socialist that has convinced people that he isn't one. I'm not running from the truth. What really bothers me is the gloating of the Obama supporters like this is some Miami-FSU rivalry game. When Bush beat Kerry, the Bush supporters weren't running around cheering and shoving it in the faces of the Kerry supporters. The great uniter has turned out to be a bigger divider than Bush was and Bush's second term was a disaster (something that even somebody that voted for him can admit).Originally posted by ucfgoon51:
Lol wow...micheal..so me and all of my friends who have worked since we were 16...went through college and voted for obama are "lazy,government loving,misguided socialists" who are tearing apart america...lol...thats what conservatives tell them selves to feel better.....your philosophy is weak....run from the truth all you want...obama won every demographic majority....except for white men over 40..i guess asian americans(most educated and culturally strict group in america)...blacks...hispanics...college graduates...people under 25...and women all want a "government handout from socialist obama who wants to control our money"....wow....keep crying.
Originally posted by FightinIbis:
Getting behind a democratic President is one thing...Bill Clinton was fine by me.
Getting behind somebody telling me what freedoms he prefers me to have, what insurance I must carry, and how and where to save the amount of income I have left over once he taxes the shit out of me...sorry, I have never lived in that country and do not have to be happy or "get behind" ideas that contradict the founding principals of the U.S.
UM
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Originally posted by JcaneO:
+1,000,000, well said!!Originally posted by sabrose:
People get minimal information and vote on shallow preferences or out of perceived personal benefit. Alot of voters were afraid their food stamps would cut off ,pensions stopped etc unless they voted for Obama.The problem is there is a point at which a government collapses due to too many people sucking from the government and too few paying in. Insanely, the government has been inviting in illegal aliens and teaching them how to apply for govt assistance when the government is broke. It sues states to prevent them from deporting illegals and making sure they dont vote.
WE are at a level where our yearly deficits are more than our GDP and a president just got elected who will do nothing about it because there are now a majority of voters who are too stupid to understand history and economics. They blame Bush for the economy when it was the Democrats running Fannie Mae into the ground. Bush tried to stop it and the Democrats including Frank, Dodd ,and Waters shouted him down. They fault Bush for spending on the prescription assistance when the Democrats proposed a much more expensive plan. Bush had incompetent or corrupt Securities and exchange monitors.
The fact is both Bush and Obama are incompetent but Obama stands for a system doomed to failure. When the drones that voted for Obama stop getting checks because the treasury is in freefall they will get their just dessert. People with the foresight to avoid the clutches of this current government will be the ones that save it after it collapses.People will learn if you dont work you dont eat and if you pop out 5 babies with no husband or means of support you will pay back society for your irresponsibility.
Originally posted by JcaneO:
+1,000,000, well said!!Originally posted by sabrose:
People get minimal information and vote on shallow preferences or out of perceived personal benefit. Alot of voters were afraid their food stamps would cut off ,pensions stopped etc unless they voted for Obama.The problem is there is a point at which a government collapses due to too many people sucking from the government and too few paying in. Insanely, the government has been inviting in illegal aliens and teaching them how to apply for govt assistance when the government is broke. It sues states to prevent them from deporting illegals and making sure they dont vote.
WE are at a level where our yearly deficits are more than our GDP and a president just got elected who will do nothing about it because there are now a majority of voters who are too stupid to understand history and economics. They blame Bush for the economy when it was the Democrats running Fannie Mae into the ground. Bush tried to stop it and the Democrats including Frank, Dodd ,and Waters shouted him down. They fault Bush for spending on the prescription assistance when the Democrats proposed a much more expensive plan. Bush had incompetent or corrupt Securities and exchange monitors.
The fact is both Bush and Obama are incompetent but Obama stands for a system doomed to failure. When the drones that voted for Obama stop getting checks because the treasury is in freefall they will get their just dessert. People with the foresight to avoid the clutches of this current government will be the ones that save it after it collapses.People will learn if you dont work you dont eat and if you pop out 5 babies with no husband or means of support you will pay back society for your irresponsibility.
Under Bill Clinton ALL tax rates were higher not just on the top 1%. The economy was good under Clinton due to a combination of the dotcom bubble and a budget with a surplus (which was arrived at by him working WITH the Republican congress not fighting at every term). The economy wasn't good BECAUSE of the higher tax rates but IN SPITE OF them. If there was going to be a surplus then I'd support bringing taxes back to the Clinton rates. However (through fault of BOTH parties) spending has gotten so out of control that rasing taxes won't get anywhere near a balanced budget. There is no upside to them except for the "feel good" moment of punishing the rich white guys even though a lot of not so rich middle class people will get hurt by Obama's plan. Especially small business that are taxed as individuals that have incomes that can fluctuate and be $300,000 one year and $50,000 the next. On average they don't make that much but they get killed with high taxes the one good year.Originally posted by big_rob:
Originally posted by FightinIbis:
Getting behind a democratic President is one thing...Bill Clinton was fine by me.
Getting behind somebody telling me what freedoms he prefers me to have, what insurance I must carry, and how and where to save the amount of income I have left over once he taxes the shit out of me...sorry, I have never lived in that country and do not have to be happy or "get behind" ideas that contradict the founding principals of the U.S.
UM
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So has any of what u just said happened yet to u???
Alot of the "Tax Codes" Obama wants to put in place is similar to what president Bill Clinton did during his term in office. If you're to young ask your parents about Ronald Regan, during his term in office i believe taxes were higher then what Obama wants to implement and with Regans higher tax's came job growth and a thriving economy.
The part about, what freedom "Obama" prefers you to have, what insurance you must carry, and how and where to save your money is typical "right wing rederick" that holds no weight in any credible POLITICAL ARGUEMENT, simiply because your facts and assumptions are not true.