Not bad enough higher gas prices they want to tax the miles we drive.. No kidding. Thank you morons for voting in these idiots!
Biden more taxes coming HINT ( miles driven)
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Pretty redundant because they already have a fairly high tax on gas.
Wack jobs..!!! Sit back and let them keep going the house & senate will be ours next year..
Than we turn the screws on these pricks...
Having a tax on miles driven hurts 2 groups of people the most - lower and middle income drive the most miles just to work
ROLMAO@Regressive tax? We can't be stupid here! We can't go on like this. Keep cutting taxes and expect the greatest country in the would to sustain this by just not spending. Learn economics. We have to have revenue. There is no possible way to continue down a path of where all the benefits the rich and upper class people get is not paid back in taxes.
Companies like Amazon and the rich people behind them thrive off the little guy keeping them in business. The little guy is the consumer. You are successful because of our capitalistic system. You have obligated to pay your fair share back into the coffers. You can't allow everyone else to purchase your products and services so you are rich and also support the tax burden of our society. That is a stupid model and only cucks are okay with rich people getting off scott free so they don't get a "regressive tax".
This is ridiculous! Everyone has to pay taxes to sustain our society. Clean water is not free. Healthy food to eat is not free. Roads and bridges that don't fall apart is not free. Defense is not free. Supporting our needs cost money. We can't live in a society where 2 individuals have more wealth than the bottom 40% of Americans. That is stupid.
Companies like Amazon and the rich people behind them thrive off the little guy keeping them in business. The little guy is the consumer. You are successful because of our capitalistic system. You have obligated to pay your fair share back into the coffers. You can't allow everyone else to purchase your products and services so you are rich and also support the tax burden of our society. That is a stupid model and only cucks are okay with rich people getting off scott free so they don't get a "regressive tax".
This is ridiculous! Everyone has to pay taxes to sustain our society. Clean water is not free. Healthy food to eat is not free. Roads and bridges that don't fall apart is not free. Defense is not free. Supporting our needs cost money. We can't live in a society where 2 individuals have more wealth than the bottom 40% of Americans. That is stupid.
You have stat to show this? I thought the lower class lived in urbanized centers? I thought suburbs and exurbs were not lower and lower-middle class.
not wading into the discussion I’m asking for factual confirmation.
We aren't cutting a tax they are adding a tax, I suggest you look up REGRESSIVE taxes versus PROGRESSIVE taxes. Regressive taxes affect the poorest of the country the most as a % of their income genius. This means if I have to pay the MILES DRIVEN tax it affects me FAR LESS than that of a low income person.
Additionally like the TYPICAL LIBERAL you are, you focus on more money from the people and NEVER look at less spending by the Federal Government. That makes you none too smart.
Ellu I'm surprised at your question. You know darn well that as a % of income lower income folks paying the same tax as high income folks is by it's very nature REGRESSIVE. It's not complicated for a smart guy like you. Perhaps you think all URBAN areas have great mass transit systems. I would direct your attention to Miami, Los Angeles, San Diego, Dallas, Houston, etc.....many urban areas where a person can't just hop on a subway like NYC. Add Atlanta to the list.
I didn’t discuss regressive taxes just the idea that poorer folks make longer commutes. I don’t believe that.
The distance isn't the point. The % of tax against a persons income is the point coupled with the absurdity of another tax
I specifically said
You have stat to show this? I thought the lower class lived in urbanized centers? I thought suburbs and exurbs were not lower and lower-middle class.
not wading into the discussion I’m asking for factual confirmation.”
That’s what I’m asking about.
Yes...YOU ARE CUTTING TAXES!!! Trump did that and 83% of it only the rich benefited from. I don't have any idea who told you that we are not cutting taxes. We are and loop holes need to be closed. This is getting ridiculous. I know what regressive and progressive taxes are. That has absolutely nothing to do with what I am talking about in the sense that fundamentally we can not sustain a society like ours without everyone equally sharing the tax burden as they benefit from our capitalistic model...while the rest of us have to use subpar roads and bridges. Drink unclean water and have no regulation for food and drugs. etc etc etc. Look up the things our tax burden pays for.
The right sees someone increasing taxes and automatically flips their shit....even when it doesn't even apply to them. Regressive taxes and progressive taxes are just taxes. The semantics of it isn't as important as what the tax burden does if it isn't addressed. Everyone has to pay a fair share. Not just the little guy...and fighting this fight on behalf of the big guy is just cuckery at it's finest.
Fair enough read this.
How Long Commutes Are Making Life Hell for the Poor
Yet another consequence of gentrification
CD you are all over the place. First of all we are not speaking about Trump it's Bidens turn. The biggest loop holes are the loss carry forward that hedge funds enjoy and the Democrats NEVER want to touch those or bye bye wall street money. That isn't the point of the thread though friend.
Thanks but that’s a 2015 article and the focus is on commuting time not distance. It’s a function of congestion and traffic. The survey is linked in the article and that is what I read.Fair enough read this.
How Long Commutes Are Making Life Hell for the Poor
Yet another consequence of gentrificationwww.theatlantic.com
still don’t see the answer regarding longer distance (as the mileage is what ostensibly is being taxed) commutes.
Im on record for tax raises. Not flat or regressive but the Amazon’s of the world. I’d also like to see help in the way we help farmers for small businesses trying to compete with Amazon Facebook and other conglomerates. Break em up!
Now that's another topic "loopholes" employed by the largest and wealthiest but I have no energy for that discussion today except to say I agree.
Our attitudes in this country about tax burden are extremely racist. I hesitate to bring race into this discussion but the discussion can't be had without it. Because the fact is people look at people on food stamps and public assistance as takers. Even if they work and make a minimum wage these same people would never vote for. We all have an inherent need as well as a right to feed our families.
However, when a wealthy person has a tax loophole they are not looked at the same way. Why else would that be other than a race perception? They run around saying it is their money but it is NOT THEIR MONEY. It is their tax burden. It's not your money. It is what is owed in return for you living in a society that allows you to make money with no caps.
So these people that don't pay taxes because of their loopholes get to run around and drink the clean water, take advantage of our planes, our defense system, our society while they evade taxes. Then to boot tell everyone else who doesn't pay or gets public assistance a taker? Only a cuck would buy into this bullshit! Only because they are looking at who these people are by race, creed, age etc.
However, when a wealthy person has a tax loophole they are not looked at the same way. Why else would that be other than a race perception? They run around saying it is their money but it is NOT THEIR MONEY. It is their tax burden. It's not your money. It is what is owed in return for you living in a society that allows you to make money with no caps.
So these people that don't pay taxes because of their loopholes get to run around and drink the clean water, take advantage of our planes, our defense system, our society while they evade taxes. Then to boot tell everyone else who doesn't pay or gets public assistance a taker? Only a cuck would buy into this bullshit! Only because they are looking at who these people are by race, creed, age etc.
You don't hesitate and poor doesn't equal race. Lots of poor people of every race out there.
I completely agree with this but that's not what i said. I said "OUR ATTITUDES" specifically. Most people on public assistance are actually white. The most money does not go to minorities...but if you look at the attitudes it is clear. Most rich people are white as well. So, these attitudes are designed around this fact. Preservation of wealth. That's what this is all about. Preserving wealth.
OK Jethro, from brain surgeon to international playboy to soda jerk to astronaut and now to economist. Quite the life you live
Please site the study that showed that 83% of. Trump tax cut only benefitted the rich.
You expect him to see the light of day from mom's basement? This guy is a business expense consultant. He looks at water bills and says fix the leak. He looks at energy bills and says air condition at midnight, rates are lower. He may have had 5 clients in his lifetime and 3 would be relatives, the rest pro bono.
His statements are riddled with duplicity. He makes absurd generalizations and when called out for detail he says, 'I've already done that'. He's one of the only Cuomo devotees who has not accused Andrew of s*xually harassment, but the list hasn't stopped growing yet.
Love your comment about soda jerk, although I'm not sure about the soda part.
Study? I think you meant "Cite" or quote. Let's start with this Donald Trump / White House quote:
“And the rich will not be gaining at all with this plan,” referring to his tax cut proposal.
White House – Wednesday, September 13, 2017
I think that it is higher considering the fact that the rich enjoy loopholes helping evade there tax responsibility. The percentage is debatable depending on who you talk to when you consider who truly benefited.
My point was NOT the percentage at all. It was the fact that this cut was for the rich/wealthy. Not everyday people.
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They don't just enjoy loopholes, a majority of the wealthy don't actually earn their own money, they inherit it, which is why anyone over 50m needs to be taxed at 90% to dislodge that money from being hoarded at the top.
He can't cite a source that shows it has benefitted 83%. Will benefit is more accurate but not what you all are arguing. In 2027 82.7% will be for the top 1%. Rounded up its 83%, but that's not "ed'' past tense, its in the future. Study 2027
I don't really have an issue with inheritance. They can pass their own money down. After they pay their tax burden. All I ask is they pay their fair share. That's all.
This bullshit narrative of how they are creating jobs is stupid. These people that work for rich people pay for themselves. They generate the income. It's not handed to them. Any business worth a shit makes you pay for yourself.
The problem is people that can't think for themselves think because you have money you worked hard. Like you said, maybe it was just inherited. That doesn't require any hard work. You just have to be in the blood line. I am willing to bet two things. One Trump is NOT worth what he tells people he is...and two that money given to him was mostly wasted because he has people fooled because he is great at playing on peoples fears.
When you choose to call people out for selecting the wrong word, you shouldn’t make the same mistake in your own post.
The correct word is their, not, there.
To be fair it wasn’t a homophone that he was pointing out and moreso I think he was making it clear that it was an actual Trump attribution.
I can’t wait for you to explain the correlation between taxing people for driving their cars and freedom. Good lord you people are stupid
Once again Raoul the fool pops off with no back up
Nearly 68% of the world's richest people are 'self-made,' says new report
A new report from Wealth-X says only 8.5% of the world's ultra-high-net-worth population — individuals with $30 million or more in net worth — inherited their money.
Rich & Powerful
The richest and most powerful people in the world come from a variety of backgrounds and industries. Browse Investopedia’s expert-written library to learn more.
Once again Raoul the fool pops off with no back up
Nearly 68% of the world's richest people are 'self-made,' says new report
A new report from Wealth-X says only 8.5% of the world's ultra-high-net-worth population — individuals with $30 million or more in net worth — inherited their money.www.cnbc.com
Rich & Powerful
The richest and most powerful people in the world come from a variety of backgrounds and industries. Browse Investopedia’s expert-written library to learn more.www.investopedia.com
Keep believing your lies HJ. Wealthy people do not earn their money - it is usually inherited and passed down among wealthy families. Those that actually don't inherit their money don't "earn" it either. Its the workers who actually make the products and deliver the services that generates the wealth.
Wealth, Inheritance and Social Mobility
<p>Isabel Sawhill and Edward Rodrigue explain that President Obama's call for higher taxes on capital gains to generate revenue for middle- and lower-income families may also relate to intergenerational social mobility as wealth and income have become increasingly concentrated in the...
The 'Self-Made' Hallucination of America's Rich - Institute for Policy Studies
Like Mitt Romney, most Americans who amass grand fortunes have a substantial head start.
ips-dc.org
Here is his quote:
“I think that it is higher considering the fact that the rich enjoy loopholes helping evade there tax responsibility.”
He was pointing out bad English while using bad English. This is something I seldom do because I am frequently guilty myself.
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