CA vs FL covid

[doerunn]

After a solid year, they’re starting to realize his response was the correct one.

LA Times compared Florida’s response to California’s. “California imposed myriad restrictions that battered the economy, and have left most public school students learning at home for a year. Florida adopted a more laissez-faire approach decried by public health experts — allowing indoor restaurant dining, leaving masks optional and getting children back in classrooms sooner.”

The NY Times, on Sunday’s front page, explored the positives of Florida’s early reopening, from the booming real estate market to FL’s low unemployment rate. “Much of the state has a boomtown feel, a sense of making up for months of lost time.” They note that FL’s unemployment rate is 5.1%, compared to 9.3% in CA, 8.7% in NY, and 6.9% in TX. “That debate about opening schools? It came and went months ago. Children have been in classrooms since the fall.”

DeSantis about to parlay this into a 2024 presidential run, gonna suck for Floridians to lose him as governor, though. Republicans have gambled that the death toll is worth keeping commerce flowing and keeping kids in school, and it’s becoming obvious to even partisans that they made the right call.

 

[Raoul2]

After a solid year, they’re starting to realize his response was the correct one.

LA Times compared Florida’s response to California’s. “California imposed myriad restrictions that battered the economy, and have left most public school students learning at home for a year. Florida adopted a more laissez-faire approach decried by public health experts — allowing indoor restaurant dining, leaving masks optional and getting children back in classrooms sooner.”

The NY Times, on Sunday’s front page, explored the positives of Florida’s early reopening, from the booming real estate market to FL’s low unemployment rate. “Much of the state has a boomtown feel, a sense of making up for months of lost time.” They note that FL’s unemployment rate is 5.1%, compared to 9.3% in CA, 8.7% in NY, and 6.9% in TX. “That debate about opening schools? It came and went months ago. Children have been in classrooms since the fall.”

DeSantis about to parlay this into a 2024 presidential run, gonna suck for Floridians to lose him as governor, though. Republicans have gambled that the death toll is worth keeping commerce flowing and keeping kids in school, and it’s becoming obvious to even partisans that they made the right call.

The article is hardly complimentary towards Florida or DeSantis - in fact, most of the quotes are more on the critical side.


Examples:

On Friday, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released a study of the nation’s more than 3,000 counties that found that mask mandates were linked to a significant reduction in COVID-19 deaths. Counties that allowed restaurant dining generally noted an increase in virus-related deaths within three months, the study found.

“The states that didn’t implement as stringent measures, they did pay a price for it. And I don’t think that you can explain that away,” said Dr. Scott Gottlieb, a resident fellow at the institute and a former head of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in the Trump administration, on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

“If I had to do it again, I’d still do it the way California did it. But I do think you do have to come away with some humility,” said Dr. Robert Wachter, chair of UC San Francisco’s Department of Medicine. “One might’ve expected that the Floridas of the world would’ve done tremendously worse than the Californias of the world, and they did worse, but modestly worse, and there’s something to be learned there.”

 

[kimzkr]

The article is hardly complimentary towards Florida or DeSantis - in fact, most of the quotes are more on the critical side.


Examples:

So , who in your opinion , handled Covid better , Fl or Ca ?? Simple question , yes or no answer please

 

[Raoul2]

So , who in your opinion , handled Covid better , Fl or Ca ?? Simple question , yes or no answer please

If you look at the numbers per capita, then you'd have to say California handled it slightly better. As the article states, if you take LA out of the equation - FL would have 39% more deaths per capita. LA is just a congested place that is ripe for disease transmission.

 

[newnangacane]

I can't wait for DeSantis to be gone. Mini Trump won't be in the White House

 

[kevinf57]

If you look at the numbers per capita, then you'd have to say California handled it slightly better. As the article states, if you take LA out of the equation - FL would have 39% more deaths per capita. LA is just a congested place that is ripe for disease transmission.

Like Miami. Can’t take the urban area out of one state and not the other to be objective. Over 20% of Florida’s population is over 65, and only 14% for CA, so a much higher at risk population.

 

[816_Cane]

Like Miami. Can’t take the urban area out of one state and not the other to be objective. Over 20% of Florida’s population is over 65, and only 14% for CA, so a much higher at risk population.

Raul Castro loves to engage in whataboutism. Only a genius would say California’s response was so much better if you only remove LA.

 

[kimzkr]

If you look at the numbers per capita, then you'd have to say California handled it slightly better. As the article states, if you take LA out of the equation - FL would have 39% more deaths per capita. LA is just a congested place that is ripe for disease transmission.

Thoughts on the financial ramifications incurred by both Florida and California ?

thoughts on the unemployment comparison between the 2 states ?

thoughts on the difference of citizens of California leaving as opposed to the people moving to Florida ?

thoughts on who handled pandemic better , Desantis or Newsome?

thoughts on Newsoms job rating as Governor ? As well as Pelosis job performance as San Fran rep ?

If the election were held today , would you vote Desantis or Gilliam ( spelling ? ) and why

 

[canesgotscrewedagain]

I can't wait for DeSantis to be gone. Mini Trump won't be in the White House

Just curious what specifically you don't like about Desantis and his policies other than he has an R next to his name? You have likely benefited from his bold policies as the State of FL is thriving. This State would be an absolute disaster, like CA, NY, IL, MI, etc. if your boy Gillum was elected. Dems are so angry and short sighted.

 

[cortez55403]

Just curious what specifically you don't like about Desantis and his policies other than he has an R next to his name? You have likely benefited from his bold policies as the State of FL is thriving. This State would be an absolute disaster, like CA, NY, IL, MI, etc. if your boy Gillum was elected. Dems are so angry and short sighted.

The DeSantis proposal to fly flags at half staff for Rush Limbaugh? Detroys him as a credible leader for the entire population of Florida.

Establishes him as a Republican partisan. That’s fine. But, undermines his overall appeal.

 

[hawaiian cane]

If you look at the numbers per capita, then you'd have to say California handled it slightly better. As the article states, if you take LA out of the equation - FL would have 39% more deaths per capita. LA is just a congested place that is ripe for disease transmission.

 

[hawaiian cane]

If you look at the numbers per capita, then you'd have to say California handled it slightly better. As the article states, if you take LA out of the equation - FL would have 39% more deaths per capita. LA is just a congested place that is ripe for disease transmission.

DeSantis didnt help his cause by lifting mandatory mask requirements. Currently, news bits show the crowds of young folks in Miami, Fort Lauderdale for spring break. Hardly anyone wearing masks and no social distancing. Because masks and distancing are not strictly enforced it encourages carless behavior when consuming alcohol and to those seeking amorous adventures.

 

[HJCane]

The DeSantis proposal to fly flags at half staff for Rush Limbaugh? Detroys him as a credible leader for the entire population of Florida.

Establishes him as a Republican partisan. That’s fine. But, undermines his overall appeal.

DeSantis didnt help his cause by lifting mandatory mask requirements. Currently, news bits show the crowds of young folks in Miami, Fort Lauderdale for spring break. Hardly anyone wearing masks and no social distancing. Because masks and distancing are not strictly enforced it encourages carless behavior when consuming alcohol and to those seeking amorous adventures.

Hawaiian you don't know what you are talking about, u simply talk. Florida was locked down for 8-10 weeks for the 15 day "slow the spread." While Florida as a whole did not have a State mandate mask policy most Counties did. Broward, Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, the 3 largest all did and for the most part still do. Schools were opened as the science shows kids are at minimal risk BUT he gave the choice to the parents. Those comfortable enough could put their kids in school, those not could learn virtually. FREEDOM of CHOICE. As a result Florida Real Estate is BOOMING as folks from Blue states flock here to live.

 

[canesgotscrewedagain]

DeSantis didnt help his cause by lifting mandatory mask requirements. Currently, news bits show the crowds of young folks in Miami, Fort Lauderdale for spring break. Hardly anyone wearing masks and no social distancing. Because masks and distancing are not strictly enforced it encourages carless behavior when consuming alcohol and to those seeking amorous adventures.

If you’re scared stay home or move to NY. The rest of us are getting on with our lives. The majority of our elderly and at risk citizens have been vaccinated.

 

[canesgotscrewedagain]

The DeSantis proposal to fly flags at half staff for Rush Limbaugh? Detroys him as a credible leader for the entire population of Florida.

Establishes him as a Republican partisan. That’s fine. But, undermines his overall appeal.

You’re showing exactly what I said, angry and short sighted. You would rather vote for someone who would destroy our country/state because of something as insignificant as flying a flag at half staff of someone you don’t like. I know plenty of people who voted for Biden just because they didn’t like Trump personally despite the fact that his policies were good for the country. It makes no sense.

 

[Raoul2]

You’re showing exactly what I said, angry and short sighted. You would rather vote for someone who would destroy our country/state because of something as insignificant as flying a flag at half staff of someone you don’t like.

It was an utterly stupid thing to do. Flags half mast should be for heroes and vets, not partisan talk radio hosts.

 

[gdowning70]

So , who in your opinion , handled Covid better , Fl or Ca ?? Simple question , yes or no answer please

I think neither did a good job. Things could have stayed open if everyone wore masks properly and quality masks. Look at other countries who did this and it worked very very well unlike the United States where you have selfish people who don’t care about others. Masks work and it’s been proven in many countries and in public schools in Florida.

 

[gdowning70]

Just curious what specifically you don't like about Desantis and his policies other than he has an R next to his name? You have likely benefited from his bold policies as the State of FL is thriving. This State would be an absolute disaster, like CA, NY, IL, MI, etc. if your boy Gillum was elected. Dems are so angry and short sighted.

First you have no idea what Gillum would have done and it’s irrelevant because he is not in office. Second Desantis has done a good job with some things such as opening schools and keeping businesses open. Florida unemployment numbers are really good compared to other states. Unemployment system was a disaster which can also be put on previous governor. Mask mandates would have helped the spread and less people would have contracted the virus meaning less deaths. Starts at the top. Trump & Desantis could have saved lives but decided to make it political. Last thing how much cover up is Desantis doing. Maybe lots or none. Vaccine for the rich areas so he can get donations is disgraceful. Overall he has done a good job with pending questions. Innocent till proven guilty.

 

[gdowning70]

You’re showing exactly what I said, angry and short sighted. You would rather vote for someone who would destroy our country/state because of something as insignificant as flying a flag at half staff of someone you don’t like. I know plenty of people who voted for Biden just because they didn’t like Trump personally despite the fact that his policies were good for the country. It makes no sense.

Supporting a racist and lunatic is not ok in politics. Trump and Rush are both.

 

[doerunn]

Supporting a racist and lunatic is not ok in politics. Trump and Rush are both.

LOL racist. The dim fallback, when they have no argument. How bout this racist your boy lyingbiden loved.

 

[KOWBOY88]

Supporting a racist and lunatic is not ok in politics. Trump and Rush are both.

There it is the R word ... boom once the libs call someone a racist conversation over , it’s their only way to not discuss policies or facts .
Nope it’s there code word as soon as one of them uses it their minds close up , they can’t hear you anymore they can’t think they can’t reason they can only follow the herd .
It’s like when a infant gets mad and throws themselves on the floor and all their bodies go limp like their bones disappear.
The libs there ability to reason, think freely, heels in the ground kicking and screaming.

 

[NO.SHORECANE]

LOL racist. The dim fallback, when they have no argument. How bout this racist your boy lyingbiden loved.

Great picture of President Airhead's BFF.

 

[kimzkr]

I think neither did a good job. Things could have stayed open if everyone wore masks properly and quality masks. Look at other countries who did this and it worked very very well unlike the United States where you have selfish people who don’t care about others. Masks work and it’s been proven in many countries and in public schools in Florida.

Very short sighted response .. obviously , you are oblivious to facts

 

[CaneBandit]

Gotta love people overlooking the median and average age differences of Florida vs. California, with Florida having significantly higher numbers, with basically the same covid numbers. Add that 21% of Florida’s population is over 65 to California’s is 14% and you look foolish.

 

[HJCane]

I think neither did a good job. Things could have stayed open if everyone wore masks properly and quality masks. Look at other countries who did this and it worked very very well unlike the United States where you have selfish people who don’t care about others. Masks work and it’s been proven in many countries and in public schools in Florida.

You mean selfish FREE people...........

 

[HJCane]

There it is the R word ... boom once the libs call someone a racist conversation over , it’s their only way to not discuss policies or facts .
Nope it’s there code word as soon as one of them uses it their minds close up , they can’t hear you anymore they can’t think they can’t reason they can only follow the herd .
It’s like when a infant gets mad and throws themselves on the floor and all their bodies go limp like their bones disappear.
The libs there ability to reason, think freely, heels in the ground kicking and screaming.

And yet they are making race relations go backwards as they continue to use it as a weapon

 

[816_Cane]

FL is booming. 100s of thousands of tourists spending money at our businesses right now over spring break.

And big news a few days ago....Gamebred fighting in UFC 261 to a soon to be sold out crowd of 15k in Jacksonville next month!

 

[krvanness]

FL is booming. 100s of thousands of tourists spending money at our businesses right now over spring break.

And big news a few days ago....Gamebred fighting in UFC 261 to a soon to be sold out crowd of 15k in Jacksonville next month!

And of course, all of the super spreader prognostications from last Fall regarding schools, events, etc., never materialized. So sick of the bullshit regarding this stupid thing...