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Dems are moving further left.

You’re right cems, as everyone can see , and deep down knew, just how far left you guys are headed. The election should be interesting.
This sure looks like a far left, Socialist map to me!

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Now don't be shy cems. Socialism is the proper word, so it will be called the Socialist Caucus. My only question would be, just how many members it will have. Do you have any idea?

Maybe we'll have our Progressive Caucus like right wingers have the Freedom Caucus. Ok?
 
Ok cems, where are you at? I’m ready to discuss the lefts shift to socialism.

Now don't be shy cems. Socialism is the proper word, so it will be called the Socialist Caucus. My only question would be, just how many members it will have. Do you have any idea?
 
They always say they are going to take from the rich and give to the poor.

This is how taxes when from 3% to 27% over 200 years. All the freeloaders love socialism until the money runs out.
Socialism/Communism at it's finest -Venezuela is in the midst of an unprecedented economic and political crisis marked by severe food and medicine shortages, soaring crime rates, and an increasingly authoritarian executive.
 
But, but, but that could never happen here right? Lol

Socialism/Communism at it's finest -Venezuela is in the midst of an unprecedented economic and political crisis marked by severe food and medicine shortages, soaring crime rates, and an increasingly authoritarian executive.
 
Now don't be shy cems. Socialism is the proper word, so it will be called the Socialist Caucus. My only question would be, just how many members it will have. Do you have any idea?
You are missing the big picture. The only number that's important is 218. Do you know what that number represents?
 

He don’t either. They just lost more blue dog dems. These young people with no kids can try all the must but socialism will die here in the end. To many countries have tried it and it’s failed every time. BUT, we already have a mini Welfare state, and look how it’s been doing since 1930.....

Socialism kills the human spirt, takes away from people using their skills they were blessed with to achieve great things, and last but not lest, it takes away a incentive based society.

Everybody is equal in socialism, they all suffer being poor equally!
 
Socialism/Communism at it's finest -Venezuela is in the midst of an unprecedented economic and political crisis marked by severe food and medicine shortages, soaring crime rates, and an increasingly authoritarian executive.
Yep and CD and others want to move that way .
 
I see, so you're not bothered by the socialist within your party. Are you in favor of socialism?

You are missing the big picture. The only number that's important is 218. Do you know what that number represents?
 
I see, so you're not bothered by the socialist within your party. Are you in favor of socialism?

There you go again, lying about the makeup of the Democratic Party. You putting false labels on members of the Democratic Party doesn't make you right. If you are referring to the lady from NY who won her primary, she is a Democratic Socialist. Here's what that means but don't focus on the word socialism.

The key difference between socialism and democratic socialism is that democratic socialists don't want the government to own the means of production and socialists do. They believe that certain general social goods like health care should be run by the government, but otherwise support capitalism.

I am a staunch supporter of capitalism and would never support an ideology that says otherwise.
 
lol.....so the avowed socialist only believe in part of the socialist agenda. You guys crack me up. As for your support for capitalism I'm glad to her it but what I want to know is if you believe in the socialist ideas overtaking your party?

There you go again, lying about the makeup of the Democratic Party. You putting false labels on members of the Democratic Party doesn't make you right. If you are referring to the lady from NY who won her primary, she is a Democratic Socialist. Here's what that means but don't focus on the word socialism.

The key difference between socialism and democratic socialism is that democratic socialists don't want the government to own the means of production and socialists do. They believe that certain general social goods like health care should be run by the government, but otherwise support capitalism.

I am a staunch supporter of capitalism and would never support an ideology that says otherwise.
 
lol.....so the avowed socialist only believe in part of the socialist agenda. You guys crack me up. As for your support for capitalism I'm glad to her it but what I want to know is if you believe in the socialist ideas overtaking your party?
Again, this is not socialism as you and other right wingers would like it to be. Do me a favor. Google Democratic Socialist then we'll talk.
 
Ok, I did you the favor and here's what I found. In accordance with the Democratic Socialist of America's constitution and bylaws, Article II, it states: (https://www.dsausa.org/constitution)

We are socialists because we reject an economic order based on private profit, alienated labor, gross inequalities of wealth and power, discrimination based on race, sex, sexual orientation, gender expression, disability status, age, religion, and national origin, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo. We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane social order based on popular control of resources and production, economic planning, equitable distribution, feminism, racial equality and non-oppressive relationships. We are socialists because we are developing a concrete strategy for achieving that vision, for building a majority movement that will make democratic socialism a reality in America. We believe that such a strategy must acknowledge the class structure of American society and that this class structure means that there is a basic conflict of interest between those sectors with enormous economic power and the vast majority of the population.

So to be sure I thought I'd do you another favor and check Webster for the definition of Socialist. Here's what I found: (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialist)

Definition of socialist
1 : one who advocates or practices socialism

So tell me again where I/we went wrong?

Again, this is not socialism as you and other right wingers would like it to be. Do me a favor. Google Democratic Socialist then we'll talk.
 
Ok, I did you the favor and here's what I found. In accordance with the Democratic Socialist of America's constitution and bylaws, Article II, it states: (https://www.dsausa.org/constitution)

We are socialists because we reject an economic order based on private profit, alienated labor, gross inequalities of wealth and power, discrimination based on race, sex, sexual orientation, gender expression, disability status, age, religion, and national origin, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo. We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane social order based on popular control of resources and production, economic planning, equitable distribution, feminism, racial equality and non-oppressive relationships. We are socialists because we are developing a concrete strategy for achieving that vision, for building a majority movement that will make democratic socialism a reality in America. We believe that such a strategy must acknowledge the class structure of American society and that this class structure means that there is a basic conflict of interest between those sectors with enormous economic power and the vast majority of the population.

So to be sure I thought I'd do you another favor and check Webster for the definition of Socialist. Here's what I found: (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialist)

Definition of socialist
1 : one who advocates or practices socialism

So tell me again where I/we went wrong?

You went wrong when you cherry picked your right wing talking points to label a party. We're not going to have a credible discussion if you put forth your agenda of labelling folks as a socialist which I'm not.
 
First, the information is from their website and second, I asked if you believed in their socialist agenda. You can be far left and still not be in agreement with them but I'm curious where you stand.

You went wrong when you cherry picked your right wing talking points to label a party. We're not going to have a credible discussion if you put forth your agenda of labelling folks as a socialist which I'm not.
 
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Again, this is not socialism as you and other right wingers would like it to be. Do me a favor. Google Democratic Socialist then we'll talk.
Your right cems it is not socialism it is pure out communism.
 
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