Dunn Not Guilty?
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He wasn't found not guilty. It was a mistrial. He was found guilty but the jury couldn't agree on a charge.
He was not found not guilty. He was convicted on 4 of 5 counts and they deadlocked on the first degree murder charge and had a mistrial declared. He can be re-tried on that count.
This is nothing like the Zimmerman case. That case was at least complex. This one seems pretty straightforward.
This is nothing like the Zimmerman case. That case was at least complex. This one seems pretty straightforward.
I might be mistaken, but the jury was hung on the murder one count. So there will be a another trial for that offense.
That is correct. A mistrial on the 1st degree charge but there doesn't have to be another trial, it's up to the state whether to re-try him.
still sickening,dudes a racist pos who dont think some teens shld b able to listen to music to loud,hope he rots in hell!!! Thats how this white guy feels who is ALL about gun rights,this man is simply a disgrace. Cant wait for retrial on 1st degree murder charge just to set the record straight for any other ignorant gun happy cowards in our beautiful state of Fl
How anyone can read the decision and come to the conclusion he was found not guilty is mind blowing. I do tend at times to wonder about the reading level and comprehension of some fans here. Frankly, there really is no need to go back to court on the first degree charge. I think he is getting something like fifty years before he is eligible for parole, so he will never see the light of day outside no matter what the outcome of the first degree charge.
Flea,
Do you not see how you come across there? I would agree if he was Non-Guilty, but come on!
Are you really that unintelligent? I know you are uneducated. That is obvious but now you just come across plain dumb.
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Do you not see how you come across there? I would agree if he was Non-Guilty, but come on!
Are you really that unintelligent? I know you are uneducated. That is obvious but now you just come across plain dumb.
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Let me first say I know none of the details of the case but if it wasn't a premeditated case (i.e. Zimmerman case) then they wouldn't be able to find him guilty of 1st degree murder.
"After getting yelled at for telling a group of black teenagers to turn down their "rap crap" outside a Jacksonville convenience store in November 2012, Mr. Dunn, a white man, pulled out a gun and pumped nine bullets into an SUV, killing one of the teens. He then drove back to a motel room and walked his dog before turning himself into police the next day."
Not premeditated... 2nd Murder all day though
Not premeditated... 2nd Murder all day though
You let me walk up on 4 white teenagers. Tell the white youths to " Turn there Damn Music Down"!. Pull out my gun and fire 10 rounds at the white youth. Kill one of the White Youth
! Not only will there be a national Manhunt once I leave the scene. I would be charged with 1 count of first degree Murder! I will also get charged with 3counts of attempted 1st degree Murder. The State of Florida would be seeking the Death Penalty
A mistrial was declared for killing the young, unarmed black teenager. What don't you understand about that? Would you feel the same way if that were your son, brother, father, or nephew? GTFOH. He was essentially convicted of everything but killing the young man you freaking goof.
Flea dude your a raise baiter, guy got 75 yr and will be retried on the "most serious count". Why don't you give the legal system the 75 years it has to figure out a strong case to try him on that count before you condemn them, or are you just prejudice. Your so over the top raciest you have me wondering if your straight up klan incognito, because no one I know has ever had as big an inferiority complex as you show yourself to have. Get it together man hate is a lonely place
Read Florida Statutes Chapters 790 and 776 for starts.
Zimmerman case was a clear travesty by state and court by making defense responsible for proving cause and not prosecution which is LAW.
flea is near simple misdemeanor assault and sounds like he would take about 5 seconds to make it felony assault in person. Intellect hard at work.
Zimmerman case was a clear travesty by state and court by making defense responsible for proving cause and not prosecution which is LAW.
flea is near simple misdemeanor assault and sounds like he would take about 5 seconds to make it felony assault in person. Intellect hard at work.
I fully grasp the ridiculous nature of what happened and how common it is to see a different outcome when the (racial) roles are reversed.
That said, in a court of law what the racist POS did wasn't 1st degree murder. That's the way the law reads and it's why there was a mistrial instead of a guilty verdict. Had the state charged 2nd murder we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Thank you. I don't know the details enough to know if 2nd degree was a lesser included offense in this case. If it was, they probably would have found him guilty of it. I don't know why the state keeps going after 1st degree murder when it isn't the appropriate charge.
Hate to break it to you but it's not a white black thing as much as the media wants it to be. Plenty of people get away with murdering white people too and it doesn't make the media like this because it doesn't get people like you worked up like this. If you're really pissed off about people getting away with killing black people look at the city of Chicago where it literally happens every day in segregated pockets of the city mind you by people that could care less about gun regulations. This in my opinion is the real problem and it won't stop so long as people like you are being distracted.
This has to be the most predictable shit sh'w thread ever on canesport....but flea, your point is well taken. We aren't quite where we need to be concerning race relations.
Isn't this guy a retired cop? If he got 20 years he would die in jail. Sounds like he has hardening of the arteries and is just damned cranky or does he have dementia. He obviously wasn't thinking clearly.
No Honeyiv...You do have the best lawyers,but that's not why you get off, you get off most of the time because the Jury is always predominately white, maybe one token minority. Maybe a Hispanic, never a person of African descent. At pre-trial the Lawyers have the opportunity to recuse a potential juror...So Jurors are selected by the voter registration cards, Whites are more pro-active in voting. So the defendant's lawyers usually goes through the motions of asking silly questions but usually recuses all the black folk, especially if they can guess your socio-economic status by your language or clothing. I made it to 3 court cases, and its always the same shidagady. All the other white Jurors trying to convince me to overlook bs, in order to get someone off, usually they say, "blacks are so aggressive and violent." But not you...your a good black guy type of stupidity.
So Honeyiv, you do have better lawyers, but you often win because the juries are decided by the lawyers so you never get a fair representation of peers from both sides, there are never enough blacks to represent the 14% of the national population of African Americans. A great percentage will never be able to make to make it to the jury box, that's why you win.
Simply look up the makeup of the jurors on black cases, its stacked against them (us) as soon as we are arrested. doesn't really matter what type of lawyer you have, you can't buy a jury. At least we can't!
The way I see it the entire US Justice System is a POS...."We did'nt land on Plymouth Rock,Plymouth Rock landed on us".
What I don't understand is how do you convict on the attempted murder counts but not the actual murder charge? So he attempted to kill the 3 that lived but the one that actually died was manslaughter??? I think the state was overreaching on the murder 1 charge but if this isn't murder 2, what is??? This case is far more cut and dry than the zimmerman trial.
"I don't favor violence.If we could bring about recognition and respect of our people by peaceful means,well and good. Everybody would like to reach his objectives peacefully. But I'm also a realist. The only people in this country who are asked to be nonviolent are black people". Malcolm X.
Enough said.
honey, I do live in Fl. In case you've forgotten Rivals defaults all users to Alabama and I just choose not to put in Miami, Florida. Does your cohort, dlm also live in Alabama as his id says?
Had I been on the jury I would have convicted also. I am a WASP,married with a daughter. To me there isn't any difference in skin color, only the brain inside it.
Look up Jon Gutmacher, Esq. from Orlando and email him on weapons and self-defense on the Fl state or federal level.Better yet, get his book if not just to know your own rights/expectations in confrontations here or in U.S. in general.
Now, what I posted was that the murder 1 charge was BS, WHICH IT WAS in the Dunn case. It is the prosecutions' fault completely for attempting to bias the jury by using a completely un-defensible charge. Manslaughter and they could have nailed him.
I am a CCW licensed citizen of Florida and as such am REQUIRED to know the law re. weapons and confrontation. Get the book and you will know more than almost all PO's and many lawyers. As I said, I would have voted for conviction also if I were on the jury because I understand the process.
dlm, you hope someone shoots me and I have no big problem with that. Coward? No. I won't explain for your benefit because you deserve no respect from me whatsoever because you go on to say you hope someone shoots my wife or daughter. Truly? You wish someone to cause me unending grief and pain because we disagree or you misread my meaning?
I look forward to meeting some of you at a game maybe at a Canesport tailgate or kiosk...not for the reason you probably think. I'm not vindictive in that sense. Meet because on a message board you never can id the person or say " yeah, I know what he/she means because we met and I have an idea where he's coming from."
Lastly, I saw much of the trial and for all his coaching by his attorney his actions spoke volumes. I think racist is an appropriate label.
Had I been on the jury I would have convicted also. I am a WASP,married with a daughter. To me there isn't any difference in skin color, only the brain inside it.
Look up Jon Gutmacher, Esq. from Orlando and email him on weapons and self-defense on the Fl state or federal level.Better yet, get his book if not just to know your own rights/expectations in confrontations here or in U.S. in general.
Now, what I posted was that the murder 1 charge was BS, WHICH IT WAS in the Dunn case. It is the prosecutions' fault completely for attempting to bias the jury by using a completely un-defensible charge. Manslaughter and they could have nailed him.
I am a CCW licensed citizen of Florida and as such am REQUIRED to know the law re. weapons and confrontation. Get the book and you will know more than almost all PO's and many lawyers. As I said, I would have voted for conviction also if I were on the jury because I understand the process.
dlm, you hope someone shoots me and I have no big problem with that. Coward? No. I won't explain for your benefit because you deserve no respect from me whatsoever because you go on to say you hope someone shoots my wife or daughter. Truly? You wish someone to cause me unending grief and pain because we disagree or you misread my meaning?
I look forward to meeting some of you at a game maybe at a Canesport tailgate or kiosk...not for the reason you probably think. I'm not vindictive in that sense. Meet because on a message board you never can id the person or say " yeah, I know what he/she means because we met and I have an idea where he's coming from."
Lastly, I saw much of the trial and for all his coaching by his attorney his actions spoke volumes. I think racist is an appropriate label.
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