Gary, Opinion article-Vaccines

[theUforlife]

People who choose not to get the vaccine do us all a favor, don't go to the hospital when you get sick.

yep. If you do not trust the science and doctors with the vaccine, then do not come into the hospital when you do not trust that same science and doctors for the cure

 

[TampaBayCane]

Gary, who are you to say that a vaccine is the best thing for a player? What about the players that already have COVID and have natural immunity? They should get stuck with a vaccine that has killed over 12,000 and disabled over 10,000 already?

What research have you conducted on the long term side effects of the vaccine? The answer is zero, since there are no studies as the vaccine is Emergency Use Authorizatio, and was completed in 20% of the time a normal vaccine is made.

If a plane was made in 20% of the time, and 12,000 people that got on that plane in the last 6 months, died….are you flying on that plane?

If a player gets COVID, based on their age, they have a 99.998% chance of survival……those odds seem pretty good to me vs taking some untested vaccine that can potentially give you blood clots, disable you or kill you.

if you want the vaccine, go get it, as I’m sure you have….but let’s not pretend that it’s the right thing for every person on the planet….or the team

Oh boy…. Gary can we move this to the Q section of the lounge?

 

[NC2022]

3 million people die a year in the US..plenty of tragedy!


Can we talk about football?

 

[Umazing561]

another moron....

You don’t like it so he’s a moron. Pot calling kettle black moment for you there tough guy.

 

[gcanefan5252]

yep. If you do not trust the science and doctors with the vaccine, then do not come into the hospital when you do not trust that same science and doctors for the cure

Sick with anything, or just with Covid, please clarify.

 

[Umazing561]

My opinion on this thing is ridiculously over-broad protocols, and bad science leading to absurd rules driven all by PR more than they care about the players. Aka they need to appear like they are on top of it a d that’s it. If anything happens to the season blame the absurdity of regulations, and the rules being driven by an irrational, and agenda driven elite.

 

[MikeJW]

Gary time to move it to the lounge again we just can’t stay off the politics around here

 

[Umazing561]

MORON...

Post the link where you read that. Oh and Jan.6 was a LOVE IN

Your nut-lover Trump got his JABS in privacy, as to not lose any of his sorry azz machoism.

Look another dumb f**k who doesn’t like a different opinion so immediately calls someone a conspiracy theorist and ties him Trumpism and liking dumbasses who play dress up and walk through the halls of Congress. You stereotype of a loser.

 

[Cool Runnin']

Gary time to move it to the lounge again we just can’t stay off the politics around here

It’s not about politics. Why are people making this about politics? The antivaxxers run the gamut from inner city hard core dems to hillbilly pubs to liberal elite phD’s believe it or not. You are NOT placating the left or anyone else by getting the vaccine. I am a solid conservative and vaxxed btw.

 

[jed1250]

Regarding probabilities, playing russian roulette and winning doesn't mean it's smart to play the game. The odds of surviving Covid are good to excellent for any age cohort. Covid is not Ebola. Having said that, from an individual standpoint it is still a MUCH smarter play to get the vaccine than risk the outcome of getting sick. The risk-adjusted outcomes are just not comparable. Not to mention that societally we are still dealing with a full blown pandemic (and a big risk to the season) vs simply an endemic disease because of all the knuckle dragging antivaxxers out there.

As far as natural immunity being superior to or lasting longer than vaccine immunity here are links to three highly reputable sources that disagree with you, four if you count me:

Hopkins
NIH
CDC

The VAERS data is important and does tell us a lot about absolute and relative risks from vaccines. The data that was gathered for Covid vaccine adverse effects was also gathered for smallpox, shingles, measles, mumps, rubella etc. So apples to apples it tells us a lot about risk.

very well said

 

[jed1250]

It’s not about politics. Why are people making this about politics? The antivaxxers run the gamut from inner city hard core dems to hillbilly pubs to liberal elite phD’s believe it or not. You are NOT placating the left or anyone else by getting the vaccine. I am a solid conservative and vaxxed btw.

Yea it is because he started talking about Afghanistan and Jan 6. Not sure why he from vaccine issue to the other issue.

The virus is a real threat to season. I live in central Florida and several high school games are already being cancelled again because of virus outbreaks.

 

[gfre]

VAERS data…..CNN doesn’t report these deaths

Better to remain quiet than…. Oh why am I bothering

Why don’t you go order a pizza from Q and see if JFK Junior delivers it to you

 

[krvanness]

Gary, who are you to say that a vaccine is the best thing for a player? What about the players that already have COVID and have natural immunity? They should get stuck with a vaccine that has killed over 12,000 and disabled over 10,000 already?

What research have you conducted on the long term side effects of the vaccine? The answer is zero, since there are no studies as the vaccine is Emergency Use Authorizatio, and was completed in 20% of the time a normal vaccine is made.

If a plane was made in 20% of the time, and 12,000 people that got on that plane in the last 6 months, died….are you flying on that plane?

If a player gets COVID, based on their age, they have a 99.998% chance of survival……those odds seem pretty good to me vs taking some untested vaccine that can potentially give you blood clots, disable you or kill you.

if you want the vaccine, go get it, as I’m sure you have….but let’s not pretend that it’s the right thing for every person on the planet….or the team

You are spot on. Great post.

 

[KOWBOY88]

N95 keeps virus out, the orher masks allow people to keep the virus to themselves…its more for people who have it than those trying to protect themselves…i went to Duke…we did the mask studies… also found out neck gaiters spread more than no mask… ill be happy to post that study if you think you can understand a medical journal?

You really think a child isn’t going to constantly adjust their mask and touch their face and eyes and mouth come on wake up the mask are a joke if one kid has a contaminated mask they all will

 

[silverbullet90]

oh I see, you can not link the data because you know it is bullshit!!!

by the way, you talk shit about having anti bodies. Does the anti bodies from when a person got covid 6 months ago for original covid work for the mutated Delta variance?????? Vaccine does. And are you going in to a clinic and checking periodically to see if you have anti bodies that work?? Or are you just wingin it And taking a wild guess that they are working?? Vaccine ensure that they do.

by the way, not sure if you know the reality of what is going on at hospitals if you do come in with shortness of breath but unless you are ICU bound or have immune issues, they basically are sending you home to fend for yourself to fight it until you get way worse and ready to be put into ICU…….and then pray they have a bed for you. Do not think you are going into the hospital and they are going to give you remdesivir or anything like that. You have to qualify as a severe patient or have immune issues to get that treatment.

Go to the VAERS website…….look it up if you really care, it’s there, do your own research

 

[silverbullet90]

People who choose not to get the vaccine do us all a favor, don't go to the hospital when you get sick.

and if you took the vaccine and get sick in 5 years because you didn’t know the long term consequence, and you took 15 booster shots along the way because you listened to the media (because they care and have zero agenda) and all your friends that took the vax are sick as well, and COVID is thought of as just the flu or the cold, that it really is……you stay home as well and keep those beds open for people that really need them.

if you got the are basically the research for the vaccine, the lab rat if you will, participating in a one size fits all approach to medicine. I really hope a few years down the road everything is fine as the media has manipulated so many people all for a virus that you have a 99.997% chance of surviving, w/ no vax

 

[gferman]

the debate on this subject is getting us really far
Just gets worse and worse

 

[krvanness]

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the debate on this subject is getting us really far
Just gets worse and worse

Well, you knew this would be the case Gary. You have 2 camps. No one is changing anyone else's mind. IMO, it's simply about choice.

 

[Cat.5 Cane]

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the debate on this subject is getting us really far
Just gets worse and worse

I do NOT approve and I’ll take away all their salaries - signed gov Desuckis

 

[silverbullet90]

If anyone has an employer that is requiring the vaccine, here are 7 places that you can work that DO NOT require it

1 - White House
2 - The CDC
3 - The FDA
4 - Moderna
5 - Pfizer
6 - The World Health Org
7 - Johnson & Johnson

So they all want you to take it, but aren’t requiring their employees…..wonder who knows more, the folks that work with the vaccines and are telling YOU to get multiple booster shots, or the ones listening to bought politicians, CNN and just blindly comply.

 

[krvanness]

If anyone has an employer that is requiring the vaccine, here are 7 places that you can work that DO NOT require it

1 - White House
2 - The CDC
3 - The FDA
4 - Moderna
5 - Pfizer
6 - The World Health Org
7 - Johnson & Johnson

So they all want you to take it, but aren’t requiring their employees…..wonder who knows more, the folks that work with the vaccines and are telling YOU to get multiple booster shots, or the ones listening to bought politicians, CNN and just blindly comply.

Health Care workers are being fired left and right for not taking the vaccine. Now there's a ringing endorsement.
On a side note, New Zealand has locked down over the number of cases in their Country. That number of cases? Wait for it.......................................................................................................................................................................................
One

 

[majus12]

LOL

Yes we ALL Laugh our asses off at you!
Thanks for understanding

 

[BreakingCane]

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the debate on this subject is getting us really far
Just gets worse and worse

What is getting worse? How many people do you know personally who died from this disease, not someone who knew someone who died, or someone who died with the disease?

 

[miamimike]

“a vaccine that has killed over 12,000 and disabled over 10,000 already”

Where did you read or hear this?

Absurd totals, obviously just made up. The guy's a loon! The anti vaxxers are delusional idiots. The never mention that every pandemic in the past was brought under control through vaccinations.