Solar you say you listen to scientists, but do you Understand ? Science IS specific and reproducible. It uses Data not polls, Not supposition, nor assumptions. Why isn't there a consensus of scientists (not a clique , not a group of people with the same interests) giving credibility and mandate behind this ? Why are historical norms in weather patterns NOT front and center. Why is the only solution to all of it the USA ? Why , if the science is so clear, is there no world pressure on CHINA, India, Russia, N.Korea, and the constant smoke and destruction of conflicts in the middle east? It seems to me that the pressure placed on USA Citizens and it's government is Misplaced and wasted. What good is it to shut down a country,
That already is among the world leaders in conservation, and leave the worlds biggest offenders uncheck, unregulated, and unmodified ?
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Mahb, you actually make some solid points there man. You’re right, science IS specific and results have to be repeatable. That’s the thing; one side has data from multiple data sources, with repeatable results. The deniers don’t. In science, if you say “carbon isn’t the cause of the warming” you have to be able to explain, with data,
what is causing the warming. The earth’s atmosphere is a closed system, so either the sun is increasing it’s output or the earth is trapping more of the sun’s radiation. It’s not solar activity (been decreasing for decades), weather events like El Niño (otherwise the warming would’ve stopped), and it’s not long term cycles (those take thousands of years and we should be headed towards another ice age. Instead we’re seeing record warming).
Here is the article I posted earlier where they look at scientific papers denying global warming.https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00704-015-1597-5
Here is an explanation of said paper in the guardian in a more readable format.
Dana Nuccitelli: A new paper finds common errors among the 3% of climate papers that reject the global warming consensus
www.theguardian.com
Again, the denier’s results were
not repeatable.
To answer some of your other questions…
“Why isn't there a consensus of scientists (not a clique , not a group of people with the same interests) giving credibility and mandate behind this?”
Well, there is. Every branch of the national Academy of Sciences accepts AGW.
As to the other narrative behind your question, every field of science has specialists that work within a given field. They conduct and interpret research. This happens in medicine, engineering, physics, chemistry, etc. Climate Science is no different. A medical doctor’s opinion on climate change should hold about as much weight as a climate scientists opinion on heart disease.
And make no mistake, 97% of climate scientists believe in AGW.
“Why are historical norms in weather patterns NOT front and center.”
Well, I’m no climate scientists but I think one of them would say that generally weather, because it’s short term, has a very high variability. Climate is all the weather events aggregated together. It’s far more predictable, or at least has been since humans inhabited earth. And their predictions aren’t for weather, but for climate (average global surface temperatures).
“Why is the only solution to all of it the USA?” Not sure where you heard that. It’s not. To tackle
global warming, we have to cut
global emissions. That’s everyone. That said, the US is one of the largest emitters of CO2, and the highest per capita. We’re a world leader. We need to lead.
“Why, if the science is so clear, is there no world pressure on CHINA, India, Russia, N.Korea, and the constant smoke and destruction of conflicts in the middle east?”
This is more a geopolitical question than one that pertains to the veracity of the global warming argument. China is investing far more in clean energy than we are. Not even close. To your point, they can and should do more. I think we should put pressure on
all countries to curb emissions. But how can we do that when we’re not doing it in our own country?
“you wouldn't happen to sell solarpannels would yha ? I'd love a deal”
Ha! My best friend does. Depending on your state it can be
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