Massive study should end mask debate
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If you want to wear a mask good for you, you have no right to force me to wear one.
If your face diaper stops protecting you from covid when I’m not wearing one, then your face diaper was never protecting you from covid.
If your face diaper stops protecting you from covid when I’m not wearing one, then your face diaper was never protecting you from covid.
Debate? It's not a debate really. It's a bunch of self absorbed people that can't handle being told what to do so they spend all their time looking for ways to poke holes in the merits of science.
Uh we are the ones actually following the science and not little tyrants in the gov that you worship
Not sure who "we" is. Are you talking about Republicans? The ones that took us out of the Paris accord? That don't believe we should care about global warming? Look around....and tell me you are following science. Turn on your TV. Go outside. Notice any weather changes? Notice anything happening?
LMAO, really? we are talking masks and you need to pivot to a corrupt accord that was nothing more than a setup to get money from the US while exempting China? Funny how catchy little names on law and scams like this is all you need to be on board. Science indeed
Nope, not a debate at all. Our nation's top infectious disease expert, Fauci, said that masks do nothing but make the wearer feel good about themselves until he let politics and thoughts of stardom get in the way.
No, the ones that look at ALL the science, and not just the ones that back there agenda. The ones that took core samples in Iceland and Antarctica and have been documenting the size and heat from the earths expansive core. The one that found the melting of Iceland's largest fjord isn't being pushed by atmospheric warming, but by the earths heating crust. Aren't you following Science ??????? Can't see it from your soap box ?
No credible scientist subscribes to the bullshit you just spewed. Hence....THE PARIS ACCORD.
WTF are YOU TALKING ABOUT ROFL 🤡 . REALLLLLLYYYY LOL so you are part of the Academy ? Your a Professor conducting research into it or are an editor to ScientificAmerica ? Do you even own a subscription ? You just canceled out all the research and researchers and all the millions in Government grants into these studies , because what ? Wow what an ego LOL but either way,,,,,,,,,, You are Wrong The Science is there and their work is going on as we speak. In the words of the Late Great Jimmy ,,,, Castles made of Sand wash into the Sea,,,,,,, eventually
Bullshit. Look at California. Then take a look at Sweden. Masks are just a bullshit pacifier for the scared sheep. We will have to live with Covid in one strain or the other forever. Move on already. Masks and shutdowns are a thing of the past.
Good point. I just went outside here in Peachtree City, GA and the humidity is down, 77 degrees and not a cloud in the sky. It should be in the mid 80's with 80% humidity this time of year. What the hell is going on?
I worked in Peachtree city for years at NCR. They get around that entire city through golf cart paths. The weather is perfect.
Spot on. Following science always. Science told us states that shut down fared no better than those that didn’t.
Science tells us that more kids under 20 die from seasonal flu than COVID, but masks are not required in school during seasonal flu months (Oct-Mar).
men can be women, women can be men. Climate is always changing wasnt Fl under water at one time? Could it just be going back to normal. whatever that is.
Yes, we know. But this point you are making with the right is as ridiculous as saying why do we change the oil in our car. Since it is just going to get dirty again and the engine one day won't be good....rolmao.
Ummmm, because we want to maintain as long as we are here so maybe even our kids can enjoy. Makes sense right? smdh
That's correct. Red States and Sweden.
Well, you did sum up Peachtree City CD. NCR has been here for quite some time as well.
Hey can you put a Mask on the Whole Open Boarder ? Is the mask being made in China ?
Rackkkkkkkkk immmmmmmmmm.......EPIC.........You guys should really take a long look in the mirror. You talk about science, but only the one you like ( and never mind you have no science back ground to even merit an opinion lol). You talk about fairness, but take away any fairness that would get in your way. You talk about equality then turn around and label people nazi, sub human, and fanatics. Really, your daily marathon through the pig trough is very unflattering. With what's happened this month, have you said anything about it, have you been equally critical ? No you pivoted to something else, and why ? Do you feel you have something to protect ? It surely isn't something we have in common, like a general good. You gang of elites are and have become boring, your insults and creativity with information are pedantic and lacking, and your ability to bring any kind of truthful information, opinion, or news is only an inability. Hope you guys get interesting and at least entertaining.
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Seems to be some confusion. You said that this is the cause of ice melting, instead of AGW. That’s simply false. They’re both contributing concurrently. To what degree? Who knows, doesn’t matter, because this in no way refutes any evidence of AGW.
You also said, “the ones that look at ALL the science, and not just the ones that back there agenda”…like the scientists who discovered this are separate from the ones who accept AGW. Again, that’s false. They’re the same.
I never said it was "the" solitary cause of Global Warming. I can see, if you hadn't noticed I was contrasting the prior posters statement, where you could get confused.
"They’re both contributing concurrently."
I completely agree with this.
"The ones that took core samples in Iceland and Antarctica and have been documenting the size and heat from the earths expansive core. The one that found the melting of Iceland's largest fjord isn't being pushed by atmospheric warming, but by the earths heating crust."
This is a presentation of actual research from scientists specifically investing a cause, and the presentation of their findings. If it was specific it would be toward Iceland's largest Fjord. In no where of what I wrote do I attribute all of global warming to the heating of earth's crust.
Now that we're on the subject, isn't it funny Global Warming is taken for granted as due to a solitary cause? That was the whole point to posting research that is non CO2 related. To expand and gain perspective. I was kinda hoping science nuts would notice that LOL
"They’re both contributing concurrently."
I completely agree with this.
"The ones that took core samples in Iceland and Antarctica and have been documenting the size and heat from the earths expansive core. The one that found the melting of Iceland's largest fjord isn't being pushed by atmospheric warming, but by the earths heating crust."
This is a presentation of actual research from scientists specifically investing a cause, and the presentation of their findings. If it was specific it would be toward Iceland's largest Fjord. In no where of what I wrote do I attribute all of global warming to the heating of earth's crust.
Now that we're on the subject, isn't it funny Global Warming is taken for granted as due to a solitary cause? That was the whole point to posting research that is non CO2 related. To expand and gain perspective. I was kinda hoping science nuts would notice that LOL
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Well…first, I’m not sure that it is taken for granted. Frankly, many people still don’t accept AGW despite overwhelming evidence. Look no further than the comment section on this site as proof.
😇 to be fair, I'm kind of in that group. I still see there is a huge need for data collection and expansion of possible theories, not that I don't believe there is atmospheric/ global warming , but considering our Tech and understanding is at best 100 yrs old and the earth is aprox 4.5 billion yrs old, there could be a natural system by nature that remedies or balances the problem. In the geothermal studies I posted water temp's actually stopped heating after 2016 to present, and now they are waiting more data for clarity. So true to science I'm skeptical and trust but verify LOL. There's an old saying "the devil loved his children so much he killed them". meaning be carful not to obsess over something. Another one on those lines is "the road to hell is paved with good intentions".
1) Data collection isn’t the issue. They’ve collected mountains of data none of it refuted consensus.
2) Scientific proof isn’t based on the length of one’s understanding, but being able to prove, with evidence, a hypothesis repeatedly. This has been done thousands of times over decades. And people have challenged the hypothesis tried to disprove it. All have failed.
3) It seems like you’re creating a bit of a blind spot by focusing on these geothermal studies and not the thousands of others out there. There’s a lot of glaciers that have melted over the last decade or two, and the cause wasn’t geothermal activity. It was increasing surface temperatures. Not to mention places like Antarctica losing ice. That’s not from geothermal. It’s AGW.
4) Completely fair to be skeptical, but there’s a line between being skeptical (wanting more evidence) and being in denial (denying current evidence).
Appreciate the conversation.
1) you're giving me flash backs Roflmao (in a good way ) Data collection is Always an *the issue) lol ( its like I.T saying its the software lol) In this case a ton of data covering the " same events" is redundant. Considering the breath of Time climate encompasses its only logical we haven't studied and received data over " all" the variables that can/ do affect climate. Ex of the point; it wasn't long ago Geothermal Temperatures were not taken into account when hypothesizing the cause of Climate change. There could very well be many , yet unknown, causes waiting to be observed. Using my practical experience, it always makes me feel uncomfortable when there is no or little variation to a data set I receive, at least the start of collecting.
2) Here you get hazy to me. The fact its still a hypothesis implies it has NOT be proven fact yet, correctly so imho, because we do not, as of yet, have all the variables, nor do we know how they affect. We can create and re-create models with the data we have, and those may work ad nauseum, but without taking into account the missing variables (real world variables) the great in a lab, but inadequate toward the real world.
3) You said it yourself, Global Warming is a multifactorial process. My focus on geothermal, was only to demonstrate there are other process at work, that its not all Co2 emissions, and we still do not know how it all runs. As for the ice melting in Antarctica, underwater freshwater current under-cutting is the latest hypothesis I've read (along with/as well as surface temp. despite how ungodly cold it may be up/dwn there lol)
4) Denial is only a river to me Rofl in Africa, but my wife is correcting me as a patient skeptic
she loves cats LOL I love Dogs we have both Roflmao secret to a happy marriage .
Enjoy the convo going to go brush up ! Your inspiring 🌞
2) Here you get hazy to me. The fact its still a hypothesis implies it has NOT be proven fact yet, correctly so imho, because we do not, as of yet, have all the variables, nor do we know how they affect. We can create and re-create models with the data we have, and those may work ad nauseum, but without taking into account the missing variables (real world variables) the great in a lab, but inadequate toward the real world.
3) You said it yourself, Global Warming is a multifactorial process. My focus on geothermal, was only to demonstrate there are other process at work, that its not all Co2 emissions, and we still do not know how it all runs. As for the ice melting in Antarctica, underwater freshwater current under-cutting is the latest hypothesis I've read (along with/as well as surface temp. despite how ungodly cold it may be up/dwn there lol)
4) Denial is only a river to me Rofl in Africa, but my wife is correcting me as a patient skeptic
she loves cats LOL I love Dogs we have both Roflmao secret to a happy marriage .
Enjoy the convo going to go brush up ! Your inspiring 🌞
I would say that masks work to a certain degree. There’s a reason why we cover our mouths when we sneeze or cough. Who doesn’t get pissed when somebody on an air plane or in a crowded stadium doesn’t cover their mouth and just continuously sneezes into the air unobstructed with everyone around?
that being said, if you think masks or simply sneezing into your arm is going to save anyone immunocompromised from getting literally any virus there is, you’re nuts. I mean when has a pair of underwear and shorts ever stopped the fumes of rip ass from across the room?
i own and manage a restaurant and don’t mandate masks. If you want to wear one you can. Almost all of my employees have the antibodies in them that we know of. Here’s the thing. Antibodies or not, we’re packed almost all the time and covid isn’t going any where and we all have to feed our families and put our kids through schools have mortgages, etc. . No mask is going to save me or my employees from covid in our situation. We’re just around too many people too often and we have to be. We have to make a living. Not all of us can work desk jobs and even if we could you wouldn’t want us too lol! At the end of the day we can’t stay shut down forever. It made sense for a little because we needed to find out what we were dealing with but ultimately all it did was kick the can down the road. Now these further proposed shut downs, crowd shaming and paying people not to work are nothing more than a political excuse for communism 101.
like Trump said, we are at war with an invisible enemy. We’re going to lose some loved ones in this war but we’re not going to lose our loved ones and this war. That’s unacceptable. Covids not going anywhere. We can’t just tank our whole country minus the white collar because we’re afraid of the inevitable regardless of masks or vaccines. Do what you gotta do but don’t try and take away my option to make a living at this point or simply breathing normally when I’m hustling my ass off all night at work and having to raise my voice over ambient restaurant noise to communicate because I don’t want to wear a mask any more. You try wearing a mask on a tread mill while talking over your loud speaker for hours and hours on end 6 days a week and tell me it’s no big deal. All because you don’t like the options that you have. Stay home if you’re uncomfortable with the risk of being in a crowded place with out masks .
that being said, if you think masks or simply sneezing into your arm is going to save anyone immunocompromised from getting literally any virus there is, you’re nuts. I mean when has a pair of underwear and shorts ever stopped the fumes of rip ass from across the room?
i own and manage a restaurant and don’t mandate masks. If you want to wear one you can. Almost all of my employees have the antibodies in them that we know of. Here’s the thing. Antibodies or not, we’re packed almost all the time and covid isn’t going any where and we all have to feed our families and put our kids through schools have mortgages, etc. . No mask is going to save me or my employees from covid in our situation. We’re just around too many people too often and we have to be. We have to make a living. Not all of us can work desk jobs and even if we could you wouldn’t want us too lol! At the end of the day we can’t stay shut down forever. It made sense for a little because we needed to find out what we were dealing with but ultimately all it did was kick the can down the road. Now these further proposed shut downs, crowd shaming and paying people not to work are nothing more than a political excuse for communism 101.
like Trump said, we are at war with an invisible enemy. We’re going to lose some loved ones in this war but we’re not going to lose our loved ones and this war. That’s unacceptable. Covids not going anywhere. We can’t just tank our whole country minus the white collar because we’re afraid of the inevitable regardless of masks or vaccines. Do what you gotta do but don’t try and take away my option to make a living at this point or simply breathing normally when I’m hustling my ass off all night at work and having to raise my voice over ambient restaurant noise to communicate because I don’t want to wear a mask any more. You try wearing a mask on a tread mill while talking over your loud speaker for hours and hours on end 6 days a week and tell me it’s no big deal. All because you don’t like the options that you have. Stay home if you’re uncomfortable with the risk of being in a crowded place with out masks .
Again with the March 2020....🤪Ahem, it took less than 1 minute to find this and BTW your beloved head clown Fauci said masks were theater
CDC Report Admits Mask-Wearing Provides No Real Protection Against Covid
On March 5, the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published a report admitting that face masks do not provide protection against the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19), …luis46pr.wordpress.com
That quote was from March 8th, 2020....a month later the CDC reversed that as it was found out you can spread the virus while be asymptomatic.
Outdated Fauci Video on Face Masks Shared Out of Context - FactCheck.org
An outdated video clip of Dr. Anthony Fauci is circulating on social media -- giving the false impression he is currently advising the public not to wear face masks. Fauci, like other health officials, recommends wearing a cloth face covering when distances of at least six feet can’t be maintained.
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You have no clue about mask wearing whatsoever. Fauci, after a lifetime of studying infectious diseases, does. The only thing that changed since his original statement was that he decided to play politics and had stardom in his eyes. N95 masks are the only masks that are effective from stopping Covid, and then only if they are properly fitted and changed on a regular basis. Hope that you don't trust your family's lives on a cloth face diaper.Again with the March 2020....🤪
That quote was from March 8th, 2020....a month later the CDC reversed that as it was found out you can spread the virus while be asymptomatic.
Outdated Fauci Video on Face Masks Shared Out of Context - FactCheck.org
An outdated video clip of Dr. Anthony Fauci is circulating on social media -- giving the false impression he is currently advising the public not to wear face masks. Fauci, like other health officials, recommends wearing a cloth face covering when distances of at least six feet can’t be maintained.
No, I trust being smart, doing what one can to limit exposure, get the vaccine and wear a mask when in a higher risk environment. Not too hard.
It's not being very smart to ignore the fact that face diapers do very little to stop the spread of Covid. You do you though and good luck to you and your family.
I know I would rather have the lady coughing and sneezing near me on the plane to be wearing one rather than not. 💯
That is your choice but if you think that her cloth face diaper is going to protect you, then you are simply playing Russian Roulette with your health. Besides, aren't you protected by the piece of cloth that you will be wearing on that flight? BTW, it's not the lady coughing and sneezing that you should be worried about, it's the vaccinated and asymptomatic that spread the virus that you won't see coming that should alarm you.
I think at this point I could give you a glass of water and you would tell me it's not wet. LOL
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