OK... the Donna Shalala criticisms have gone way overboard...

[JJCane]

You guys can complain about Shalala all you want, and there are certainly things to complain about, but no UM President in our HISTORY supported sports and football more than her, and she put her money where her mouth was.

She inherited a crumbling athletics structure (physically). She assigned one of her best fundraisers to athletics, and was responsible for an incredible amount of monumental capital improvements, the likes of which we'd be without Richt or any decent coach right now. Including:

1. Construction of the Shwartz Center for FOOTBALL EXCELLENCE. Miracle. Game changer.
2. Complete renovation of the Hecht Center. Multimillion dollar. Game changer.
3. Renovations of Greentree Athletic Fields. Expensive and overdue.
4. She f'ing built the WATSCO CENTER! On campus! In CG! Miracle. Again, MIRACLE.
5. Massive Multimillion gut renovation of A-Rod Park.
6. Construction of the Cobb Center
7. Massive renovation of the Tennis Center
8. Renovation of the UM HOF (recruiting tool).
9. Shalala Student Center was named in her honor - MAJOR recruiting tool.

And more.

And yeah, the practice bubble is being built after she left, but they started working on right after the Shwartz Center. Its not an instant process and they were involved big time.

She came along at the hardest time, with out facilities crumbling, right when the arms race started in CFB, and when the city took away the OB. Shannon and Golden were disasters, and in her words she wished she had seen Nevin coming (so did about 1000 people) but all that happened at a time when we were not a very attractive program. Should she STILL have gotten us better coaches? HELL YES. But people don't realize the challenges we've faced these last 15 years, and what we were up against.

Donna oversaw the complete rebuilding of our athletics physical plant. Its incredible what she accomplished. As mentioned, there are certainly valid criticisms, but she set us up for the hires and success we are going to have with the capital projects. Richt has said as much. Ask him.

 

[Canes1575]

You guys can complain about Shalala all you want, and there are certainly things to complain about, but no UM President in our HISTORY supported sports and football more than her, and she put her money where her mouth was.

She inherited a crumbling athletics structure (physically). She assigned one of her best fundraisers to athletics, and was responsible for an incredible amount of monumental capital improvements, the likes of which we'd be without Richt or any decent coach right now. Including:

1. Construction of the Shwartz Center for FOOTBALL EXCELLENCE. Miracle. Game changer.
2. Complete renovation of the Hecht Center. Multimillion dollar. Game changer.
3. Renovations of Greentree Athletic Fields. Expensive and overdue.
4. She f'ing built the WATSCO CENTER! On campus! In CG! Miracle. Again, MIRACLE.
5. Massive Multimillion gut renovation of A-Rod Park.
6. Construction of the Cobb Center
7. Massive renovation of the Tennis Center
8. Renovation of the UM HOF (recruiting tool).
9. Shalala Student Center was named in her honor - MAJOR recruiting tool.

And more.

And yeah, the practice bubble is being built after she left, but they started working on right after the Shwartz Center. Its not an instant process and they were involved big time.

She came along at the hardest time, with out facilities crumbling, right when the arms race started in CFB, and when the city took away the OB. Shannon and Golden were disasters, and in her words she wished she had seen Nevin coming (so did about 1000 people) but all that happened at a time when we were not a very attractive program. Should she STILL have gotten us better coaches? HELL YES. But people don't realize the challenges we've faced these last 15 years, and what we were up against.

Donna oversaw the complete rebuilding of our athletics physical plant. Its incredible what she accomplished. As mentioned, there are certainly valid criticisms, but she set us up for the hires and success we are going to have with the capital projects. Richt has said as much. Ask him.

BLA, BLA, BLA... Than go lick her liberal ARSE.... !!!

 

[vivijane]

She was an abomination.......please I will leave it at that...........

 

[ellu]

BLA, BLA, BLA... Than go lick her liberal ARSE.... !!!

You made it political? Why?

The former Mexico health minister and Harvard University Dean is big on diversity and it's not surprising - he is the product of a mélange of cultures and religions. He was born in Mexico to a German-Jewish father who at 6 years of age escaped persecution in Nazi Germany along with his parents. His maternal grandfather migrated to Mexico from the Canary Islands in Spain in search of new economic opportunities.

"In spite of incredible adversity, my family found a welcoming place in Mexico, in a country that was much poorer [economically] than Germany … but much richer in terms of tolerance and acceptance,"


and if he were great I'd love him if he sucked I'd hate em.

 

[apopkacane]

You guys can complain about Shalala all you want, and there are certainly things to complain about, but no UM President in our HISTORY supported sports and football more than her, and she put her money where her mouth was.

She inherited a crumbling athletics structure (physically). She assigned one of her best fundraisers to athletics, and was responsible for an incredible amount of monumental capital improvements, the likes of which we'd be without Richt or any decent coach right now. Including:

1. Construction of the Shwartz Center for FOOTBALL EXCELLENCE. Miracle. Game changer.
2. Complete renovation of the Hecht Center. Multimillion dollar. Game changer.
3. Renovations of Greentree Athletic Fields. Expensive and overdue.
4. She f'ing built the WATSCO CENTER! On campus! In CG! Miracle. Again, MIRACLE.
5. Massive Multimillion gut renovation of A-Rod Park.
6. Construction of the Cobb Center
7. Massive renovation of the Tennis Center
8. Renovation of the UM HOF (recruiting tool).
9. Shalala Student Center was named in her honor - MAJOR recruiting tool.

And more.

And yeah, the practice bubble is being built after she left, but they started working on right after the Shwartz Center. Its not an instant process and they were involved big time.

She came along at the hardest time, with out facilities crumbling, right when the arms race started in CFB, and when the city took away the OB. Shannon and Golden were disasters, and in her words she wished she had seen Nevin coming (so did about 1000 people) but all that happened at a time when we were not a very attractive program. Should she STILL have gotten us better coaches? HELL YES. But people don't realize the challenges we've faced these last 15 years, and what we were up against.

Donna oversaw the complete rebuilding of our athletics physical plant. Its incredible what she accomplished. As mentioned, there are certainly valid criticisms, but she set us up for the hires and success we are going to have with the capital projects. Richt has said as much. Ask him.

CALM DOWN HILLARY OR SHOULD I SAY MRS. CLINTON.

 

[mroubicek]

BLA, BLA, BLA... Than go lick her liberal ARSE.... !!!

I think this kind of answers the question as to the misplaced vitriol towards by a lot of posters here. I was a student at UM while she was there. She was not the problem.
Sorry she was a liberal.

 

[TupeloDawg]

She was worse than the death penalty for Miami.

 

[LOOGEY]

You guys can complain about Shalala all you want, and there are certainly things to complain about, but no UM President in our HISTORY supported sports and football more than her, and she put her money where her mouth was.

She inherited a crumbling athletics structure (physically). She assigned one of her best fundraisers to athletics, and was responsible for an incredible amount of monumental capital improvements, the likes of which we'd be without Richt or any decent coach right now. Including:

1. Construction of the Shwartz Center for FOOTBALL EXCELLENCE. Miracle. Game changer.
2. Complete renovation of the Hecht Center. Multimillion dollar. Game changer.
3. Renovations of Greentree Athletic Fields. Expensive and overdue.
4. She f'ing built the WATSCO CENTER! On campus! In CG! Miracle. Again, MIRACLE.
5. Massive Multimillion gut renovation of A-Rod Park.
6. Construction of the Cobb Center
7. Massive renovation of the Tennis Center
8. Renovation of the UM HOF (recruiting tool).
9. Shalala Student Center was named in her honor - MAJOR recruiting tool.

And more.

And yeah, the practice bubble is being built after she left, but they started working on right after the Shwartz Center. Its not an instant process and they were involved big time.

She came along at the hardest time, with out facilities crumbling, right when the arms race started in CFB, and when the city took away the OB. Shannon and Golden were disasters, and in her words she wished she had seen Nevin coming (so did about 1000 people) but all that happened at a time when we were not a very attractive program. Should she STILL have gotten us better coaches? HELL YES. But people don't realize the challenges we've faced these last 15 years, and what we were up against.

Donna oversaw the complete rebuilding of our athletics physical plant. Its incredible what she accomplished. As mentioned, there are certainly valid criticisms, but she set us up for the hires and success we are going to have with the capital projects. Richt has said as much. Ask him.

Fk Shalala and her liberal socialist believes. Good God all mighty were free at last.

 

[BreakingCane]

BLA, BLA, BLA... Than go lick her liberal ARSE.... !!!

Spot on!

 

[BreakingCane]

The facts are clear, under her watch...

@canam1965 and @Doc Holliday-JB thoughts?

 

[drc40colnago]

The facts are clear, under her watch...

@canam1965 and @Doc Holliday-JB thoughts?

For once I am agreeing with Canerob. There is no denying during her watch our sports programs and specifically football declined to mediocrity. It was under her watch Shapiro happen and who can forget her beaming face accepting that 50k check from him at the Beach bowling alley. Those are the facts!

 

[JJCane]

Not surprising how none of the people who disagree chose to address any of the items I listed.

Instead it's liberal this and liberal that. Our new Pres is liberal too. Most are. Who cares? I hope the Koch brothers donate $100m. My party is he Hurricane Party. Unsubstantive responses. As expected.

 

[BreakingCane]

Not surprising how none of the people who disagree chose to address any of the items I listed.

Instead it's liberal this and liberal that. Our new Pres is liberal too. Most are. Who cares? I hope the Koch brothers donate $100m. My party is he Hurricane Party. Unsubstantive responses. As expected.

Who cares about the political nonsense? She killed UM football.. fact. Richt and the new Pres are reviving it.

 

[JJCane]

I don't care about any political nonsense. I didn't bring it up. Not a "fact" at all, for the reasons listed. Don't be a simpleton and don't make things up. This is what I am talking about.

Ask CMR what he thinks. He came because the greatest period of physical plant improvement in UM Athletics history got the Canes in position to where a good coach could come in. Now THAT'S a fact.

Tad Foote was President during our greatest run. He HATED football and had to be coaxed into even accepting it. He wanted to cut the budgets massively. They had to take him by the hand and explain it was a big part of UM. He begrudgingly accepted it. Anyone who gives Foote credit for our wins is a mouth-breather.

 

[BreakingCane]

The chart of wins does not lie under her watch. All her responsibility. FACT!

She micromanaged football, made horrible football coaching hires, did not provide enough $$ for football, got us out of the OB and made a mad deal w/Sunlife, etc.

 

[JJCane]

But it does lie. Can you read? Tad Foote? LOL.

 

[cdwright40]

Politics have nothing to do with it. She didn't invest enough in a big time football coach and staff. That's a fact. I have no issue with all of the other stuff including making UM a better academic institution.

 

[andyctree]

I find it funny that some people believe the President of a University should be putting the athletic department above and beyond on their priority list than the academic department. Her main job was to improve the academic institution that is the University of Miami, and it is hard to argue that she didn't. With that said, she obviously put athletics way down on the priority list, and that is a key reason to our struggles in football.

 

[cdwright40]

I find it funny that some people believe the President of a University should be putting the athletic department above and beyond on their priority list than the academic department. Her main job was to improve the academic institution that is the University of Miami, and it is hard to argue that she didn't. With that said, she obviously put athletics way down on the priority list, and that is a key reason to our struggles in football.

Very true sir. The was the President of the entire University. That is much bigger than Football. We all want football to play a prominent role. I get that but the truth of the matter is that isn't top priority for a University president. That's just reality.

 

[OzonaCane1]

You guys can complain about Shalala all you want, and there are certainly things to complain about, but no UM President in our HISTORY supported sports and football more than her, and she put her money where her mouth was.

She inherited a crumbling athletics structure (physically). She assigned one of her best fundraisers to athletics, and was responsible for an incredible amount of monumental capital improvements, the likes of which we'd be without Richt or any decent coach right now. Including:

1. Construction of the Shwartz Center for FOOTBALL EXCELLENCE. Miracle. Game changer.
2. Complete renovation of the Hecht Center. Multimillion dollar. Game changer.
3. Renovations of Greentree Athletic Fields. Expensive and overdue.
4. She f'ing built the WATSCO CENTER! On campus! In CG! Miracle. Again, MIRACLE.
5. Massive Multimillion gut renovation of A-Rod Park.
6. Construction of the Cobb Center
7. Massive renovation of the Tennis Center
8. Renovation of the UM HOF (recruiting tool).
9. Shalala Student Center was named in her honor - MAJOR recruiting tool.

And more.

And yeah, the practice bubble is being built after she left, but they started working on right after the Shwartz Center. Its not an instant process and they were involved big time.

She came along at the hardest time, with out facilities crumbling, right when the arms race started in CFB, and when the city took away the OB. Shannon and Golden were disasters, and in her words she wished she had seen Nevin coming (so did about 1000 people) but all that happened at a time when we were not a very attractive program. Should she STILL have gotten us better coaches? HELL YES. But people don't realize the challenges we've faced these last 15 years, and what we were up against.

Donna oversaw the complete rebuilding of our athletics physical plant. Its incredible what she accomplished. As mentioned, there are certainly valid criticisms, but she set us up for the hires and success we are going to have with the capital projects. Richt has said as much. Ask him.

The baseball people couldn't stand her!! When she took over she gutted their money. Couldn't give players any extra $$$

 

[OzonaCane1]

Very true sir. The was the President of the entire University. That is much bigger than Football. We all want football to play a prominent role. I get that but the truth of the matter is that isn't top priority for a University president. That's just reality.

Tell that to the President when it comes time to take that TV and endorsement money!! Sports brings more $$$ and spreads the schools name more than anything! UM was a commuter school basically till the 80's football puts lots of schools on the map

 

[cdwright40]

Tell that to the President when it comes time to take that TV and endorsement money!! Sports brings more $$$ and spreads the schools name more than anything! UM was a commuter school basically till the 80's football puts lots of schools on the map

We are aware of all that but it isn't the top priority at a University was the point. Miami is an international top 50 institution. Acclaimed research institution. Not just a football factory. They get big endowments for a lot of programs. It's over 887 Million in a year. They know the money that football brings. It is very small by comparison to the University endowment. TV revenue by the way is shared with the Conference. It is a split.

 

[OzonaCane1]

We are aware of all that but it isn't the top priority at a University was the point. Miami is an international top 50 institution. Acclaimed research institution. Not just a football factory. They get big endowments for a lot of programs. It's over 887 Million in a year. They know the money that football brings. It is very small by comparison to the University endowment. TV revenue by the way is shared with the Conference. It is a split.

Honestly CD how would you know what the "top priorities" at the school are! Seriously you need to shut the F up with all your bullshit! You have no idea what your talking about and you always got insight into EVERYTHING! Let me guess, you know Shalala or your Shrink is on the board of directors! Your a clown

 

[cdwright40]

Honestly CD how would you know what the "top priorities" at the school are! Seriously you need to shut the F up with all your bullshit! You have no idea what your talking about and you always got insight into EVERYTHING! Let me guess, you know Shalala or your Shrink is on the board of directors! Your a clown

Easy, the same way I know what the role of a president of a university is. Not hard. Pretty simple deduction.

 

[OzonaCane1]

Easy, the same way I know what the role of a president of a university is. Not hard. Pretty simple deduction.

You got zero clue! And again to state opinion as fact like your in the BOD meetings. Lmfao your a clown. Like I said, your online living a fantasy life

 

[cdwright40]

You got zero clue! And again to state opinion as fact like your in the BOD meetings. Lmfao your a clown. Like I said, your online living a fantasy life

I'm not sure why Gary / Matt allow you to make every thread a cesspool but it is getting rather boring now.

 

[OzonaCane1]

I'm not sure why Gary / Matt allow you to make every thread a cesspool but it is getting rather boring now.

They let you get out if hand a long time ago.

I'm not sure why Gary / Matt allow you to make every thread a cesspool but it is getting rather boring now.

 

[CANE1983]

I don't see how anyone with a degree from Miami can be anything but grateful for her time as president. If you didn't go to school there and have no interest other than athletics, sure......

 

[cdwright40]

I don't see how anyone with a degree from Miami can be anything but grateful for her time as president. If you didn't go to school there and have no interest other than athletics, sure......

Yep...that's pretty much the name of the game.

 

[andyctree]

I'm not sure why Gary / Matt allow you to make every thread a cesspool but it is getting rather boring now.

It is pretty easy to put him on ignore and never see his posts.

 

[cdwright40]

It is pretty easy to put him on ignore and never see his posts.

Yeah, he will probably break my cardinal rule to not put anyone on ignore.

 

[OzonaCane1]

It is pretty easy to put him on ignore and never see his posts.

He likes the competition to much

 

[OzonaCane1]

I don't see how anyone with a degree from Miami can be anything but grateful for her time as president. If you didn't go to school there and have no interest other than athletics, sure......

Sure, however UM was on solid footing way before Donna. Again I have a warped perspective due to her tearing apart baseball budget!!! Also she believe it or not wasn't great to medical school, nursing program especially

 

[OzonaCane1]

Yeah, he will probably break my cardinal rule to not put anyone on ignore.

My cardinal rule: keep it real. That's NYC for honesty. Not sure that made it up to the "tri state"

 

[Canes1575]

You made it political? Why?

The former Mexico health minister and Harvard University Dean is big on diversity and it's not surprising - he is the product of a mélange of cultures and religions. He was born in Mexico to a German-Jewish father who at 6 years of age escaped persecution in Nazi Germany along with his parents. His maternal grandfather migrated to Mexico from the Canary Islands in Spain in search of new economic opportunities.

"In spite of incredible adversity, my family found a welcoming place in Mexico, in a country that was much poorer [economically] than Germany … but much richer in terms of tolerance and acceptance,"


and if he were great I'd love him if he sucked I'd hate em.[/QUOTE

I never brought up RACE DUDE but it you want to go there I SAY... BUILD THE WALL & come in legally ..!!!! Just like everyone else..

 

[BreakingCane]

Very true sir. The was the President of the entire University. That is much bigger than Football. We all want football to play a prominent role. I get that but the truth of the matter is that isn't top priority for a University president. That's just reality.

While true that's a red herring. No one is arguing the football program should be the highest priority. More are they mutually exclusive. You can have both.

 

[cdwright40]

While true that's a red herring. No one is arguing the football program should be the highest priority. More are they mutually exclusive. You can have both.

Obliviously you can have both. We have 5 national championships....lol. We know that but it isn't going to the highest priority for a president was the point. It wasn't for Donna. I'm sure she wanted both but it just not the main thing her job is graded on.

 

[OzonaCane1]

Obliviously you can have both. We have 5 national championships....lol. We know that but it isn't going to the highest priority for a president was the point. It wasn't for Donna. I'm sure she wanted both but it just not the main thing her job is graded on.

Big league

 

[BreakingCane]

Obliviously you can have both. We have 5 national championships....lol. We know that but it isn't going to the highest priority for a president was the point. It wasn't for Donna. I'm sure she wanted both but it just not the main thing her job is graded on.

It wasn't even on her radar, the results speak for themselves. You just said that.