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are you ok with it? I have to say if the recounts come back and Trump is still short I’ll begrudgingly except it, what choice do I have. That being said there’s enough states that have been decided by a small enough to matter and there’s clearly enough smoke that there’s fraud taking place... will you except it if it goes the other way? What is your position?
 
There is no question there were more votes counted for Biden, the problem is removing all the illegal votes. It is obvious the ballot box was stuffed in PA, MI, and WS in order to steal the election. There was 90% voter participation in Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee where areas with similar demographics around the country were about 50%. They backed up the truck at 3am and stuffed the box for Biden in those locations. Can all those illegal votes be identified? If not, recounting the same ballots isn’t going to change anything.. To answer your question OP I will never accept these results. This is fraud, and an attempt to fundamentally change this country against the will of the people. We can't accept this if we are going to remain a free society.
 
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There is no question there were more votes counted for Biden, the problem is removing all the illegal votes. It is obvious the ballot box was stuffed in PA, MI, and WS in order to steal the election. There was 90% voter participation in Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee where areas with similar demographics around the country were about 50%. They backed up the truck at 3am and stuffed the box for Biden in those locations. Can all those illegal votes be identified? If not, recounting the same ballots isn’t going to change anything.. To answer your question OP I will never accept these results. This is fraud, and an attempt to fundamentally change this country against the will of the people. We can't accept this if we are going to remain a free society.

First of all, the turnout in Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee was not 90%. Not even close. The fact that you believe it was 90% just shows how gullible you are. Secondly, every single facility that was used to count votes had personnel from both parties on-site to monitor the process. Some facilities, including in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, live streamed the counting process. There has been no lawsuit filed by Trump that claims his people were not allowed to monitor. In fact, his lawyer was forced to admit in court that his people were in fact on-site monitoring the process. This idea that a big truck of ballots was called in to put Biden over the top is delusional. Third, the Republican AG of Arizona, the republican secretary of state in Georgia, the republican senator from PA have all said publicly they have seen zero evidence of any significant fraud. In fact, I have seen only one instance of actual fraud where a guy was arrested in PA for obtaining a ballot for his dead mother and submitting that vote. That was captured during the signature matching process which is in place for all mail ballots in every single state. That vote, which was cast for one Donald J. Trump, was not counted.

Finally, I'll say this to you. Al Schmidt, a republican city commissioner in Philadelphia, said "I realize that a lot of people are happy about this election and a lot of people are not happy about this election...one thing I cannot comprehend is how hungry people are to consume lies and to consume information that is not true." Al was talking to you. Tighten yourself up and move on accordingly.
 
First of all, the turnout in Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee was not 90%. Not even close. The fact that you believe it was 90% just shows how gullible you are. Secondly, every single facility that was used to count votes had personnel from both parties on-site to monitor the process. Some facilities, including in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, live streamed the counting process. There has been no lawsuit filed by Trump that claims his people were not allowed to monitor. In fact, his lawyer was forced to admit in court that his people were in fact on-site monitoring the process. This idea that a big truck of ballots was called in to put Biden over the top is delusional. Third, the Republican AG of Arizona, the republican secretary of state in Georgia, the republican senator from PA have all said publicly they have seen zero evidence of any significant fraud. In fact, I have seen only one instance of actual fraud where a guy was arrested in PA for obtaining a ballot for his dead mother and submitting that vote. That was captured during the signature matching process which is in place for all mail ballots in every single state. That vote, which was cast for one Donald J. Trump, was not counted.

Finally, I'll say this to you. Al Schmidt, a republican city commissioner in Philadelphia, said "I realize that a lot of people are happy about this election and a lot of people are not happy about this election...one thing I cannot comprehend is how hungry people are to consume lies and to consume information that is not true." Al was talking to you. Tighten yourself up and move on accordingly.
Here is the latest lawsuit filed three days ago and the actual allegations:

“Among the claims in the lawsuit are that observers were not granted sufficient access to watch vote tabulation in certain counties, and that Philadelphia County failed to comply with an order requiring officials to grant observers closer viewing of the process.”


just clearing up what the actual facts are in the lawsuit.
 
There is no question there were more votes counted for Biden, the problem is removing all the illegal votes. It is obvious the ballot box was stuffed in PA, MI, and WS in order to steal the election. There was 90% voter participation in Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee where areas with similar demographics around the country were about 50%. They backed up the truck at 3am and stuffed the box for Biden in those locations. Can all those illegal votes be identified? If not, recounting the same ballots isn’t going to change anything.. To answer your question OP I will never accept these results. This is fraud, and an attempt to fundamentally change this country against the will of the people. We can't accept this if we are going to remain a free society.

This post right here is the problem. They are states run by republicans and you think they are going to allow a truck to come up and dump all these votes? Gtfoh when is the next Qanon meeting you are attending.

If they recount there is no issue, I’m sorry that you will not Accept it but an audit and recount are happening Soon. If you think there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of votes dumped Im Sorry but I think you don’t live in reality. Where is the Proof Of even tens of thousands dumped. Let the process play out but it’s Okay you are a conspiracy theory person as is your right but it’s just not logical in my opinion.
 
Here is the latest lawsuit filed three days ago and the actual allegations:

“Among the claims in the lawsuit are that observers were not granted sufficient access to watch vote tabulation in certain counties, and that Philadelphia County failed to comply with an order requiring officials to grant observers closer viewing of the process.”


just clearing up what the actual facts are in the lawsuit.

Exactly the same type of lawsuit that has already been dismissed. They are saying they didn't have "sufficient" access not no access. If they actually had no access a lawsuit would have been filed immediately on election day. It wasn't. The vast majority of these nonsense lawsuits came after he realized he was going to lose.

I'll actually play along though. Let's say a judge finds that the Republican observers should have been allowed to be 5 or 10 feet closer. What's the legal remedy? Count the ballots again with the observers standing 5 feet closer? Throw away the votes? Surely as a law and order citizen, you don't think a legal vote should be thrown out because the losing candidate decided after the fact that his observers weren't close enough?
 
Exactly the same type of lawsuit that has already been dismissed. They are saying they didn't have "sufficient" access not no access. If they actually had no access a lawsuit would have been filed immediately on election day. It wasn't. The vast majority of these nonsense lawsuits came after he realized he was going to lose.

I'll actually play along though. Let's say a judge finds that the Republican observers should have been allowed to be 5 or 10 feet closer. What's the legal remedy? Count the ballots again with the observers standing 5 feet closer? Throw away the votes? Surely as a law and order citizen, you don't think a legal vote should be thrown out because the losing candidate decided after the fact that his observers weren't close enough?
Don’t know just clarifying exactly what the allegations are. I’ve seen video where the observers were removed from the vote counting area and then it took a court order from a local judge to regain access. Even after the order was granted they refused to let them in until law enforcement came in and enforced the court order. How much of that was over-dramatized by Giuliani I don’t know but I watched it on tv with my own eyes so it did happen.
 
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Don’t know just clarifying exactly what the allegations are. I’ve seen video where the observers were removed from the vote counting area and then it took a court order from a local judge to regain access. Even after the order was granted they refused to let them in until law enforcement came in and enforced the court order. How much of that was over-dramatized by Giuliani I don’t know but I watched it on tv with my own eyes so it did happen.


man my guy Rudy has fallen and aged quickly. He was the man during 9/11 and that Rudy I wanted him to run for POTUS. He did try years later and got smoked but his brain has gone in the toilet with age or hanging with potus has brought out the creepy Rudy 😂😂
 
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Don’t know just clarifying exactly what the allegations are. I’ve seen video where the observers were removed from the vote counting area and then it took a court order from a local judge to regain access. Even after the order was granted they refused to let them in until law enforcement came in and enforced the court order. How much of that was over-dramatized by Giuliani I don’t know but I watched it on tv with my own eyes so it did happen.

I know I know. Everyone has seen videos and everyone can quote some random person saying they witnessed rampant fraud and so on and so on. The problem is all these videos and all these stories aren't holding up in court. Why you ask? Because they are bullshit and you need actual proof to win in court, which is why Trump's lawyers are getting laughed out of the courtroom. All of this because of the president's fragile ego. Literally 40%+ of the country believes we didn't have a fair election because this man's ego is so fragile he can't admit he lost a free and fair election. And worst of all nobody on the right seems to have a problem with that.
 
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I know I know. Everyone has seen videos and everyone can quote some random person saying they witnessed rampant fraud and so on and so on. The problem is all these videos and all these stories aren't holding up in court. Why you ask? Because they are bullshit and you need actual proof to win in court, which is why Trump's lawyers are getting laughed out of the courtroom. All of this because of the president's fragile ego. Literally 40%+ of the country believes we didn't have a fair election because this man's ego is so fragile he can't admit he lost a free and fair election. And worst of all nobody on the right seems to have a problem with that.
It was video of them at the voting center and actively not being key in. Are you saying it was completely staged and those people obstructing the court order were really actors?
 
man my guy Rudy has fallen and aged quickly. He was the man during 9/11 and that Rudy I wanted him to run for POTUS. He did try years later and got smoked but his brain has gone in the toilet with age or hanging with potus has brought out the creepy Rudy 😂😂
I was shocked when he did the Borat film. Thought that was pretty pathetic but year 2001 Rudy, there was no greater Mayor.
 
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It was video of them at the voting center and actively not being key in. Are you saying it was completely staged and those people obstructing the court order were really actors?

I have no idea what video you're talking about and I don't know what not being key in means. But what I do know is that if it was legitimate fraud then bring the evidence to court. So far they've brought zero evidence of fraud to court. And I ask you again since you keep bringing up this access issue. What legal remedy do you want to see? Count the ballots again? A few states are already doing that. You want them to throw the votes out? Is that really what you're saying? The observers weren't close enough so we need to invalidate votes casted by American citizens?
 
I have no idea what video you're talking about and I don't know what not being key in means. But what I do know is that if it was legitimate fraud then bring the evidence to court. So far they've brought zero evidence of fraud to court. And I ask you again since you keep bringing up this access issue. What legal remedy do you want to see? Count the ballots again? A few states are already doing that. You want them to throw the votes out? Is that really what you're saying? The observers weren't close enough so we need to invalidate votes casted by American citizens?
They won a court case today in Philadelphia
 
First of all, the turnout in Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee was not 90%. Not even close. The fact that you believe it was 90% just shows how gullible you are. Secondly, every single facility that was used to count votes had personnel from both parties on-site to monitor the process. Some facilities, including in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, live streamed the counting process. There has been no lawsuit filed by Trump that claims his people were not allowed to monitor. In fact, his lawyer was forced to admit in court that his people were in fact on-site monitoring the process. This idea that a big truck of ballots was called in to put Biden over the top is delusional. Third, the Republican AG of Arizona, the republican secretary of state in Georgia, the republican senator from PA have all said publicly they have seen zero evidence of any significant fraud. In fact, I have seen only one instance of actual fraud where a guy was arrested in PA for obtaining a ballot for his dead mother and submitting that vote. That was captured during the signature matching process which is in place for all mail ballots in every single state. That vote, which was cast for one Donald J. Trump, was not counted.

Finally, I'll say this to you. Al Schmidt, a republican city commissioner in Philadelphia, said "I realize that a lot of people are happy about this election and a lot of people are not happy about this election...one thing I cannot comprehend is how hungry people are to consume lies and to consume information that is not true." Al was talking to you. Tighten yourself up and move on accordingly.
If you think this was a fair and honest election then you are the gullible one. Keep letting CNN manipulate you along with the rest of the sheep. As for consuming lies you probably believe Trump colluded with Russia because liberal mainstream media has told you so for the last four years. It's also amazing how the new narrative from the Dems is to just move on. Your hypocrisy is disgraceful.
 
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