remember this girl?

[CANESROCK#1]

if I were in the family I`d be pissed..doesn't her dad make a lot of money??

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/17/3403289/former-um-student-to-serve-three.html

 

[Schnellys_Stache]

The family should be mad, angry etc. Its terrible a life was lost.

At the same time, this could happen to anyone. Its not an excuse, nobody should drive drunk, but I have many times as well as most on this board. I'm a little older, calmer and more careful these days but in my young days 18,19-24,25 this could have been me or many others on this board.

Unfortunately for her 3 years in Jail sucks, but thats the consequence of what she did. IMO 3 years is very fair. Nothing will bring the life of the grandmother back but also a young girl at 19 making a mistake that ended in tragedy shouldn't end in 20 years of jail time.

Very unfortunate, terrible all around. IMO Fair punishment though.

Randy Shannon was only right about 1 thing, Nothing good happens after 12 pm.

 

[Sheldog]

unless it's IN THE BEDROOM ...

 

[advarkas]

Three year sentence for the death of someone which resulted from a DUI...??? It never ceases to amaze me how soft our society is becoming when it comes to justice... That young lady should be behind bars for AT LEAST 10 years...

This post was edited on 5/18 8:33 PM by advarkas

 

[Schnellys_Stache]

Originally posted by Sheldog:
unless it's IN THE BEDROOM ...

LMAO, I think even the 7th floor crew screwed that one up

 

[Cali6cane]

Her penalty is enough...

I feel bad for both sides of the coin.

 

[canecarlos]

A real tragedy for both families , especially the one that lost a family member.

 

[BreakingCane]

It's all about politics and influential buzzwords of the day, my man.

It's sad that a kid bringing home a pound of weed from college because he is stocking up for the summer, due to inaccessibility in his home town, is in jail for 5 years because he is deemed a "distributor", yet a pedophile gets only 3-4 years because jails are too crowded and it was a "one time" mistake.

Much is broken because of outdated views in society and disconnect of wealthier society and real people.

Originally posted by advarkas:
Three year sentence for the death of someone which resulted from a DUI...??? It never ceases to amaze me how soft our society is becoming when it comes to justice... That young lady should be behind bars for AT LEAST 10 years...

This post was edited on 5/18 8:33 PM by advarkas

 

[ellu]

If she was riding with some friends who decided to rob someone and got shot she would be less culpable but I think the sentiment would be throw the book at her.

If she was busted selling crack to people who WANTED to purchase it people would say throw the book at her.

I lost my closest friend on May 24, 2003. Her boyfriend only had a few, she is only dead.

I know a lot of fans get a good lather going before the games, it's no excuse to jump behind the wheel. I hope they lower the legal limit . .. maybe more will consider that they are not affecting just their life or the life of others on the road, but the niece who is to young to understand where her aunt is, the mother who loses her only daughter, the best friend who still doesn't get why.

RIP Tara Rose Storozynsky.

This post was edited on 5/19 8:52 AM by ellu

 

[Canesman511]

Would it be different if the girl was a guy? Would it be different if she was older? Would it be different if she killed another 19 year old girl? It's hard to differentiate but I think when someone is killed, you no longer can feel bad for the defendant. She's very fortunate to only get 3 years and she'll probably get out early.

 

[52CANES]

Should put her in jail for 20 years.

Maybe these stupid ass people will stop driving drunk like selfish children and stop killing people so they can party and save $40 on a taxi.

 

[52CANES]

Originally posted by Cali6cane:
Her penalty is enough...

I feel bad for both sides of the coin.

You feel bad for someone that doesn't want to spend money on a taxi, so they jump in a car drunk and destroy the life of your family? Some little rich princess who decided the laws to protect people from being KILLED don't need to be followed by her...


I have ZERO sympathy for DUI's. You should get 5 years for a dui, 10 years for the second, and 20 years for any dui resulting in injury of another person.





This post was edited on 5/19 10:53 AM by 52CANES

 

[Schnellys_Stache]

Originally posted by 52CANES:

Originally posted by Cali6cane:
Her penalty is enough...

I feel bad for both sides of the coin.

You feel bad for someone that doesn't want to spend money on a taxi, so they jump in a car drunk and destroy the life of your family? Some little rich princess who decided the laws to protect people from being KILLED don't need to be followed by her...


I have ZERO sympathy for DUI's. You should get 5 years for a dui, 10 years for the second, and 20 years for any dui resulting in injury of another person.





This post was edited on 5/19 10:53 AM by 52CANES

^^^ Just curious, U never drove drunk? ^^^

Maybe you haven't and I understand its a tragedy all around, but 99% of our population has. Its not ok or cool or wtvr but it is really really common.

Obviously the driver is in the wrong but your a bit over the top on those sentences. They are comical.

I got a DUI after taking a few clients out when I was 26. I had 3 glasses of wine. I was just barely over the limit. I was .082 and change with the limit being .080. Im 31 years old now. Should I be getting out of jail this year? (obviously nobody was injured)

 

[52CANES]

Originally posted by Schnellys_Stache:

Originally posted by 52CANES:

Originally posted by Cali6cane:
Her penalty is enough...

I feel bad for both sides of the coin.

You feel bad for someone that doesn't want to spend money on a taxi, so they jump in a car drunk and destroy the life of your family? Some little rich princess who decided the laws to protect people from being KILLED don't need to be followed by her...


I have ZERO sympathy for DUI's. You should get 5 years for a dui, 10 years for the second, and 20 years for any dui resulting in injury of another person.





This post was edited on 5/19 10:53 AM by 52CANES

^^^ Just curious, U never drove drunk? ^^^

Maybe you haven't and I understand its a tragedy all around, but 99% of our population has. Its not ok or cool or wtvr but it is really really common.

Obviously the driver is in the wrong but your a bit over the top on those sentences. They are comical.

I got a DUI after taking a few clients out when I was 26. I had 3 glasses of wine. I was just barely over the limit. I was .082 and change with the limit being .080. Im 31 years old now. Should I be getting out of jail this year? (obviously nobody was injured)

If the punishment for DUI was 5 years in prison, would you have done it? Were you driving TWICE THE SPEED LIMIT?

I have driven after a few drinks, if the punishment was 5 years in prison I would not (and i do not now, not even 2 drinks), but I have never driven twice the speed limit anywhere. Going 80 in a 40 and smashing so hard the drunk went into the passenger seat. Think about that. Everybody doesn't or hasn't done that.

Stop making excuses, she is just as much a dreg of society as a gang banger. She thought the law didn't apply to her, didn't care about anyone else, ignored all safety and reason and killed someone. No different than a heroin dealer on an OD.

 

[cane856]

The fix was in on this one. No one these days gets 3 years for DUI vehicular homicide.

10 to 15 years is the normal sentence for this. Do you think if a 19 year old inner city kid with a public defender would have got this plea deal. Not a chance. That person would have got 15 years in a regular prison not a youthful offenders facility.

She was 19 not 15.

 

[cane856]

Originally posted by Schnellys_Stache:
The family should be mad, angry etc. Its terrible a life was lost.

At the same time, this could happen to anyone. Its not an excuse, nobody should drive drunk, but I have many times as well as most on this board. I'm a little older, calmer and more careful these days but in my young days 18,19-24,25 this could have been me or many others on this board.

Unfortunately for her 3 years in Jail sucks, but thats the consequence of what she did. IMO 3 years is very fair. Nothing will bring the life of the grandmother back but also a young girl at 19 making a mistake that ended in tragedy shouldn't end in 20 years of jail time.

Very unfortunate, terrible all around. IMO Fair punishment though.

Randy Shannon was only right about 1 thing, Nothing good happens after 12 pm.

Do you think it have been fair punishment it she had killed you son or daughter.

 

[mdeltoro]

Originally posted by Schnellys_Stache:

Originally posted by 52CANES:

Originally posted by Cali6cane:
Her penalty is enough...

I feel bad for both sides of the coin.

You feel bad for someone that doesn't want to spend money on a taxi, so they jump in a car drunk and destroy the life of your family? Some little rich princess who decided the laws to protect people from being KILLED don't need to be followed by her...


I have ZERO sympathy for DUI's. You should get 5 years for a dui, 10 years for the second, and 20 years for any dui resulting in injury of another person.





This post was edited on 5/19 10:53 AM by 52CANES

^^^ Just curious, U never drove drunk? ^^^

Maybe you haven't and I understand its a tragedy all around, but 99% of our population has. Its not ok or cool or wtvr but it is really really common.

Obviously the driver is in the wrong but your a bit over the top on those sentences. They are comical.

I got a DUI after taking a few clients out when I was 26. I had 3 glasses of wine. I was just barely over the limit. I was .082 and change with the limit being .080. Im 31 years old now. Should I be getting out of jail this year? (obviously nobody was injured)

I have never, not even once, driven drunk. Not once. I understand people do it, and I am always vigilant for drunk drivers. I am dreading the day my children are old enough to drive, when I can't protect them from drunk drivers. This girl should be in jail for 20 years minimum. And so should her parents. Absolutely disgusting. Amazing what privilege and "class" can get you in this country. What a shame.

 

[HERBIELILY]

3 years? Sorry, not nearly enough.

She drove her 2011 Audi Q5 down South LeJeune Road at more than 80 mph, plowing into Ayala's Ford Focus with such force that the trunk was pushed into the passenger compartment.
According to an arrest affidavit, Villanueva told Coral Gables police that Ayala's car had stopped in front of her and that she was unable to stop quickly enough.
Investigators found that her blood alcohol level was .231. The legal limit in Florida is .08.
Detectives also found a fake driver's license and suspected marijuana in a plastic bag on Villanueva.
She had faced up to 20 years in prison.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/17/3403289/former-um-student-to-serve-three.html#storylink=cpy

 

[Schnellys_Stache]

.231 is crazy drunk. She prob doesn't remember parts of that night.

 

[grant1998]

Originally posted by advarkas:
Three year sentence for the death of someone which resulted from a DUI...??? It never ceases to amaze me how soft our society is becoming when it comes to justice... That young lady should be behind bars for AT LEAST 10 years...


This post was edited on 5/18 8:33 PM by advarkas

NFL players don't do any time for dui manslaughter. she is sentenced as a YO she could be out in 6 months.

 

[Schnellys_Stache]

Originally posted by mdeltoro:

Originally posted by Schnellys_Stache:

Originally posted by 52CANES:

Originally posted by Cali6cane:
Her penalty is enough...

I feel bad for both sides of the coin.

You feel bad for someone that doesn't want to spend money on a taxi, so they jump in a car drunk and destroy the life of your family? Some little rich princess who decided the laws to protect people from being KILLED don't need to be followed by her...


I have ZERO sympathy for DUI's. You should get 5 years for a dui, 10 years for the second, and 20 years for any dui resulting in injury of another person.





This post was edited on 5/19 10:53 AM by 52CANES

^^^ Just curious, U never drove drunk? ^^^

Maybe you haven't and I understand its a tragedy all around, but 99% of our population has. Its not ok or cool or wtvr but it is really really common.

Obviously the driver is in the wrong but your a bit over the top on those sentences. They are comical.

I got a DUI after taking a few clients out when I was 26. I had 3 glasses of wine. I was just barely over the limit. I was .082 and change with the limit being .080. Im 31 years old now. Should I be getting out of jail this year? (obviously nobody was injured)

I have never, not even once, driven drunk. Not once. I understand people do it, and I am always vigilant for drunk drivers. I am dreading the day my children are old enough to drive, when I can't protect them from drunk drivers. This girl should be in jail for 20 years minimum. And so should her parents. Absolutely disgusting. Amazing what privilege and "class" can get you in this country. What a shame.

I understand your argument but disagree.

Parents to jail too? Holy smokes you are harsh.

When I was young and stupid my parents couldn't control what I did when I was out partying and the choices I made, same with this girl. At 19 you are old enough to make your decisions. Thats out of the parents control. If she drove a old crappy car she could still hit 80mph and get drunk .... only so much parents can control. You have kids, how would you prevent that?

 

[grant1998]

ok I was wrong donte stallworth did get 30 DAYS in jail in miami

 

[HERBIELILY]

The person Stallworth hit was Jay Walking on a busy street. He was going 50 MPH. 0.12 blood alchol. Paid victims family presumably alot of money.


On the morning of March 14, 2009, a 2005 [23]

Stallworth was charged with DUI manslaughter on April 1, 2009; he surrendered to police on April 2, 2009, and was released on $200,000 bail.[26] On July 10, 2009, Stallworth was released from county jail after serving 24 days of a 30-day sentence.

The Associated Press reported on June 16, 2009, that Stallworth and the Reyes family reached a financial agreement, avoiding a civil lawsuit. The amount of the settlement was not disclosed.[27]

 

[saltycane]

It is sad to see a young person ruin their lives, but this country would have less tragedies if we toughened the DUI penalties as mentioned above. Other countries have much stricter laws and people don't even think about driving drunk.

 

[mdeltoro]

Originally posted by Schnellys_Stache:

Originally posted by mdeltoro:

Originally posted by Schnellys_Stache:

Originally posted by 52CANES:

Originally posted by Cali6cane:
Her penalty is enough...

I feel bad for both sides of the coin.

You feel bad for someone that doesn't want to spend money on a taxi, so they jump in a car drunk and destroy the life of your family? Some little rich princess who decided the laws to protect people from being KILLED don't need to be followed by her...


I have ZERO sympathy for DUI's. You should get 5 years for a dui, 10 years for the second, and 20 years for any dui resulting in injury of another person.





This post was edited on 5/19 10:53 AM by 52CANES

^^^ Just curious, U never drove drunk? ^^^

Maybe you haven't and I understand its a tragedy all around, but 99% of our population has. Its not ok or cool or wtvr but it is really really common.

Obviously the driver is in the wrong but your a bit over the top on those sentences. They are comical.

I got a DUI after taking a few clients out when I was 26. I had 3 glasses of wine. I was just barely over the limit. I was .082 and change with the limit being .080. Im 31 years old now. Should I be getting out of jail this year? (obviously nobody was injured)

I have never, not even once, driven drunk. Not once. I understand people do it, and I am always vigilant for drunk drivers. I am dreading the day my children are old enough to drive, when I can't protect them from drunk drivers. This girl should be in jail for 20 years minimum. And so should her parents. Absolutely disgusting. Amazing what privilege and "class" can get you in this country. What a shame.

I understand your argument but disagree.

Parents to jail too? Holy smokes you are harsh.

When I was young and stupid my parents couldn't control what I did when I was out partying and the choices I made, same with this girl. At 19 you are old enough to make your decisions. Thats out of the parents control. If she drove a old crappy car she could still hit 80mph and get drunk .... only so much parents can control. You have kids, how would you prevent that?

you are right and I did not mean literally that the parents should go to jail. I am merely trying to make a point that there really is not a punishment sufficient to, morally, pay for the needless death of an innocent person caused by someone acting irresponsibly. Unfortunately, no one can ask the victim what she thinks, because this girl killed her.

 

[CANESROCK#1]

Originally posted by HERBIELILY:


The person Stallworth hit was Jay Walking on a busy street. He was going 50 MPH. 0.12 blood alchol. Paid victims family presumably alot of money.


On the morning of March 14, 2009, a 2005 [23]

Stallworth was charged with DUI manslaughter on April 1, 2009; he surrendered to police on April 2, 2009, and was released on $200,000 bail.[26] On July 10, 2009, Stallworth was released from county jail after serving 24 days of a 30-day sentence.

The Associated Press reported on June 16, 2009, that Stallworth and the Reyes family reached a financial agreement, avoiding a civil lawsuit. The amount of the settlement was not disclosed.[27]

I thought I had heard the girls dad was loaded and he had something to do with the Latin Grammys..there had to be a settlement in this case.anyone else with out money would be in prison for at least 15 yrs..the only reason the girl was crying in the pic is because she has to do the 3 yrs..

 

[clevelandcane]

Interesting thread. I don't think 3 years is enough. A life was lost. She's not coming back. Ever. Now I would never want a member of my family to be on either side of this tragedy. I just pray to God that never happens.

 

[Patrick Brendan]

Originally posted by saltycane:
It is sad to see a young person ruin their lives, but this country would have less tragedies if we toughened the DUI penalties as mentioned above. Other countries have much stricter laws and people don't even think about driving drunk.

This girl's life will be no more ruined than Amanda Knox's likely will. Both killed somebody, though in diff. cirsumstances, but will get along fine, as both have strong support groups and enjoyed privileged upbringing and have the legal representation such privilege enjoys.

The family of the victims in both cases is a totally different matter.

 

[Joetoth]

Originally posted by Schnellys_Stache:
.231 is crazy drunk. She prob doesn't remember parts of that night.

This.
Yea, we all (most) have got behind the wheel after a few beers and most likely would have met the .08 threshold. And yes, if we got in a wreck that would have happened even if we were completely sober, it would change the circumstances so it is a dumb choice to drive regardless of how "few beers" you have.
BUT, I can't help but differentiate between the above and the absolutely hammered. .20+ is wasted. You are not capable of even making the choice to drive or not at that point. Got to have friend(s) who are with you that are sober, bar tenders, patrons, anyone who could have/should have stopped this girl from getting behind the wheel.
Tragic for the loss of life, but truth is, in many cases the drunk driver will do it again regardless of the punishment.

 

[NO.SHORECANE]

Another example of our two systems of justice, one for the rich and one for everybody else.Another even more sickening example is the case of polo magnate John Goodman who T boned a guy who just graduated from college with his Bentley,knocked the kid's car into a canal and left the kid to drown. He ran away and tried to figure out what to do. He was convicted but the verdict was thrown out , and he sits in his mansion in Palm Beach County awaiting a new trial.

 

[SuperCane27]

I believe the penalty is fair. As sad as it is, lots of people drive drunk in this city, especially young people, and especially privileged UM students that feel invincible. This is not an excuse for what she did. She is responsible for that lady's death and must pay. However, three years of the prime of your life, countless hours of community service, probation, etc. is enough IMO. I mean this girl's life (or her family's) will never be the same. Just a sad, sad story all around.

 

[Patrick Brendan]

Curious to imagine what the penalty would have been if her Audi would have been the car in the front, the girl died, and the minority grandmother or Latino or black teenagers would've been drunk and rearended her. Short jail time and comm. svc? Not sure.

 

[ellu]

Originally posted by grant1998:

ok I was wrong donte stallworth did get 30 DAYS in jail in miami

You were plenty wrong, Stallworth also was not aware he was drunk, and not b/c he didn't "have to much" but b/c he went home and had slept for over 5 hours and was getting up to go to breakfast. Thats a real mitigating circumstance in my opinion. And he DID do time, and yeah I would have been ok with him getting a boat load more, but the victim was crossing a blind spot on a causeway that has insane traffic.

 

[canekeylargo]

Originally posted by Schnellys_Stache:
The family should be mad, angry etc. Its terrible a life was lost.

At the same time, this could happen to anyone. Its not an excuse, nobody should drive drunk, but I have many times as well as most on this board. I'm a little older, calmer and more careful these days but in my young days 18,19-24,25 this could have been me or many others on this board.

Unfortunately for her 3 years in Jail sucks, but thats the consequence of what she did. IMO 3 years is very fair. Nothing will bring the life of the grandmother back but also a young girl at 19 making a mistake that ended in tragedy shouldn't end in 20 years of jail time.

Very unfortunate, terrible all around. IMO Fair punishment though.

Randy Shannon was only right about 1 thing, Nothing good happens after 12 pm.

The thing is ......... not everyone can handle alcohol the same way ... don't get me wrong ... everyone get's impaired while drinking and driving ... this person had other incidents while drinking before and should not have been driving YOU GOT YOU KNOW YOUR LIMITS ... my 4 drinks may be equal to your 2 ?

That is why I'm against picking a level , like 0.8 and saying that should be concidered drunk driving .... like anything in this county ... once goverment puts their hands on it ... it's all about $$$$$ ... now they want to raise the level (or lower it) to 0.5 which is like one beer ...

 

[azcanes]

Oops the last time I checked rich people make mistakes too, that being said it is a tragedy that she only got 3 years if she was intoxicated and killed someone.

 

[ddimaggio]

My view is if she was blowing .081 and going 45 mph, 3 years would be about right. 80-mph and .231? Well that is a different story.

 

[samagy16]

Originally posted by Patrick Brendan

Originally posted by saltycane:
It is sad to see a young person ruin their lives, but this country would have less tragedies if we toughened the DUI penalties as mentioned above. Other countries have much stricter laws and people don't even think about driving drunk.

This girl's life will be no more ruined than Amanda Knox's likely will. Both killed somebody, though in diff. cirsumstances, but will get along fine, as both have strong support groups and enjoyed privileged upbringing and have the legal representation such privilege enjoys.

The family of the victims in both cases is a totally different matter.

amanda knox? how do you conclude she is a killer? please elaborate.


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[52CANES]

Originally posted by SuperCane27:
I believe the penalty is fair. As sad as it is, lots of people drive drunk in this city, especially young people, and especially privileged UM students that feel invincible. This is not an excuse for what she did. She is responsible for that lady's death and must pay. However, three years of the prime of your life, countless hours of community service, probation, etc. is enough IMO. I mean this girl's life (or her family's) will never be the same. Just a sad, sad story all around.

3 years is nothing. She probably won't even have been moved out of her parents house yet by the time 3 years have passed..as most people do these days..

in 3 years she will get out and her daddy will get her a job and her life will go on as privileged as ever.

You say this is not an excuse but you ARE EXCUSING her.

 

[52CANES]

Originally posted by ddimaggio:

My view is if she was blowing .081 and going 45 mph, 3 years would be about right. 80-mph and .231? Well that is a different story.

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

Enough with this "everyone has driven drunk" crap.

 

[cane856]

I will betcha rich daddy paid off the family of the Grandma to accept the plea deal. I believe that the family of the deceased has a say in the plea deal and agreed to the deal.

It's still not right because of $$$ she gets off with a slap on the wrist for killing someone.