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The claims that have arisen because of the above, as well as evidence , the lack of evidence and things that are unfalsifiable. SWA has had a cancellations and the theory has risen that a secret classified intelligence body has ordered SWA to remove debris from Roswell NM and that is why there are numerous cancellations. There is also a claim being pushed by the right that all these cancellations are occurring because Pilots are calling in sick because they dont want to get the vaccine. Both theories have the same amount of evidence: NONE. There is no verifiable public evidence to back up either claim. To the contrary, the union that supposedly organized this sickout said "it isnt happening." The Airline has said its not happening. The FAA said its not happening. The evidence is basically , a while back, the Union said "they dont want a mandate," which is the Union's job which generally they default to oppose anything that isnt pre negotiated. Its that simple. Thats the totality of verfiable evidence. We have folks who say "well, I have a source at SWA.
They say its happening." There those who say "I have source at SWA that says it isnt." Neither one is verifiable. So what happens next?
Right now there so many folks on social media; hashtags supporting a strike that may not even be occurring, there isnt one press release saying that its happening soon or going to happen. The right wing propaganda machine pushed it foward becaue it helps their narrative to basically undermind the United States. So what happens next to keep the narrative alive when there is evidence to contradict it? You make it unfalsifiable. So in all likelihood someone will appear as guest on Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity or some other show, such as NewsMax that supports the right wing and they be a guest/guests and they are going to be a former pilot or a former member of the Union rep or even a legal analyst and they are going to say "The reason that there is no evidence is because if the pilots admit to doing this, its against the law." So the lack of evidence becomes evidence that it is occurring. Just likr its to secretive to remove the debris from Roswell. That just proves it is true."
There are a lot of theories, one that involves a letter from the alphabet, that relied on this theory to be spread. Its unfalsifiable; you cant prove that its wrong. It is designed to be set up that way. They, right wingers try to make it hard to counter their narrative by making it a secret; you have to be in the know to actually be able to confirm. And everyone likes to be in the know. Its a way of being accepted and its way of being socially accepted.
So what is a likely scenario for whats occurring? Lets say hypothetically on Aug 26 Reuters releases an article saying SWA will cut more than a 100 flights on Oct 07, the day before all this happened. And again hypothetically there is a small disruption that impacted other airlines but was able to recover quickly because their systems were more resilient. In the case of SWA, maybe some of their crews and pilots were out of place so flights had to be cancelled. Then it caused a ripple effect throughout Southwest . What is clear is the Union, who many people are saying is behind this have released more than one statement saying "they are not. There is no official or unofficial activity like this." Does this mean it isnt occurring? No, the union could be lying or maybe the Union doesnt know or perhaps there is a large disruption based on operational reasons and also some pilots who refuse to get the vaccine so they are burning thru the sick leave that they have accrued. That seems or could be likely. I woulde not find fault with an airline employee who used their benefits they have accrued over time, regardless of the reason.
The point Im making here is There Is No Evidence. We cant back this up. All sources are unnamed. There are no public statements saying its occurring. There are no posts on social media organizing the sickout. But because of how the right wing propaganda machine works in this country people have invested in it to continue their narrative. This is how people get sucked in to information fallacies. This is how people follow theories that cant be verified. It starts with something small like an issue with the airlines and the next thing you know is they are out to get you. And where is the evidence? "Oh, the evidence is from my girlfriend on the east coast."
You wouldnt know her.
At the end of this, we have an absence of evidence. But that in itself doesnt mean there is absence of evidence either. We cant say this is occurring because the narrative is structured in a way to make it unfalsifiable. When you come across something that is unfalsifiable you have to deal with it with skepticism. Especially when it is primarily being circulated by a demographic group of people who are known for making stuff up. We dont have evidence that this is even occurring. So this is probably one that I am not getting behind. Because I dont believe it is happening. I honestly believe it is set up to maintain the belief that this is possible and aligned with some people's political convictions they want to believe it and if Pundits can get you to believe something without hard verifiable evidence they can get you to do anything. They can convince you to go to the Capital and get yourselves in trouble. They can convince you once you start believing without evidence. So there is no verifiable evidence to support this. But again, doesnt mean its not true so hope is still there. Just dont believe it based on a rumor and social media.
Conspiracies start when you believe it. Conspiracy theories turn bad when they become thought process exercises. When you start to believe a conspiracy theory and act on it and impacts your emotional state without any evidence.
 
Other than gross anti-conservative generalizations and other meandering, what on earth are you talking about? You are starting to sound like Rainman. We all know your agenda, even that blind squirrel CD Wright, but you just don't have a point. Hell, CNN hasn't had a legitimate point based on evidence since W was running for POTUS. Please, instead of attacking with same old, same old BS, give us all a viable explanation for the woeful stranding of hundreds of SWA passengers and please include comments from pilots who tell the truth. And don't say it was Trump's fault
 
Other than gross anti-conservative generalizations and other meandering, what on earth are you talking about? You are starting to sound like Rainman. We all know your agenda, even that blind squirrel CD Wright, but you just don't have a point. Hell, CNN hasn't had a legitimate point based on evidence since W was running for POTUS. Please, instead of attacking with same old, same old BS, give us all a viable explanation for the woeful stranding of hundreds of SWA passengers and please include comments from pilots who tell the truth. And don't say it was Trump's fault
Since you mention legitimate points, and BS It wasnt more than a few weeks ago Faux News Host Tucker Carlson had a guest who supposedly was the owner/repairman of the shop that repaired Hunter Biden's Laptop. The focus was on the content of the laptop; a few months before the 2020 general election. We are now in the month of October 2020! Where was this guy at the time the "story " broke????!!!! Or Faux should have had "him" on their site . Yeah, I know, Faux had this guy as "evidence." Seems Faux was waiting for the "right guy."
 
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Since you mention legitimate points, and BS It wasnt more than a few weeks ago Faux News Host Tucker Carlson had a guest who supposedly was the owner/repairman of the shop that repaired Hunter Biden's Laptop. The focus was on the content of the laptop; a few months before the 2020 general election. We are now in the month of October 2020! Where was this guy at the time the "story " broke????!!!! Or Faux should have had "him" on their site . Yeah, I know, Faux had this guy as "evidence." Seems Faux was waiting for the "right guy."

Hawaiian,
Don't you have some dude in a dress that raped a girl in a girl's bathroom in a Loudon County Va. school that you are cheering for?.
 
The claims that have arisen because of the above, as well as evidence , the lack of evidence and things that are unfalsifiable. SWA has had a cancellations and the theory has risen that a secret classified intelligence body has ordered SWA to remove debris from Roswell NM and that is why there are numerous cancellations. There is also a claim being pushed by the right that all these cancellations are occurring because Pilots are calling in sick because they dont want to get the vaccine. Both theories have the same amount of evidence: NONE. There is no verifiable public evidence to back up either claim. To the contrary, the union that supposedly organized this sickout said "it isnt happening." The Airline has said its not happening. The FAA said its not happening. The evidence is basically , a while back, the Union said "they dont want a mandate," which is the Union's job which generally they default to oppose anything that isnt pre negotiated. Its that simple. Thats the totality of verfiable evidence. We have folks who say "well, I have a source at SWA.
They say its happening." There those who say "I have source at SWA that says it isnt." Neither one is verifiable. So what happens next?
Right now there so many folks on social media; hashtags supporting a strike that may not even be occurring, there isnt one press release saying that its happening soon or going to happen. The right wing propaganda machine pushed it foward becaue it helps their narrative to basically undermind the United States. So what happens next to keep the narrative alive when there is evidence to contradict it? You make it unfalsifiable. So in all likelihood someone will appear as guest on Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity or some other show, such as NewsMax that supports the right wing and they be a guest/guests and they are going to be a former pilot or a former member of the Union rep or even a legal analyst and they are going to say "The reason that there is no evidence is because if the pilots admit to doing this, its against the law." So the lack of evidence becomes evidence that it is occurring. Just likr its to secretive to remove the debris from Roswell. That just proves it is true."
There are a lot of theories, one that involves a letter from the alphabet, that relied on this theory to be spread. Its unfalsifiable; you cant prove that its wrong. It is designed to be set up that way. They, right wingers try to make it hard to counter their narrative by making it a secret; you have to be in the know to actually be able to confirm. And everyone likes to be in the know. Its a way of being accepted and its way of being socially accepted.
So what is a likely scenario for whats occurring? Lets say hypothetically on Aug 26 Reuters releases an article saying SWA will cut more than a 100 flights on Oct 07, the day before all this happened. And again hypothetically there is a small disruption that impacted other airlines but was able to recover quickly because their systems were more resilient. In the case of SWA, maybe some of their crews and pilots were out of place so flights had to be cancelled. Then it caused a ripple effect throughout Southwest . What is clear is the Union, who many people are saying is behind this have released more than one statement saying "they are not. There is no official or unofficial activity like this." Does this mean it isnt occurring? No, the union could be lying or maybe the Union doesnt know or perhaps there is a large disruption based on operational reasons and also some pilots who refuse to get the vaccine so they are burning thru the sick leave that they have accrued. That seems or could be likely. I woulde not find fault with an airline employee who used their benefits they have accrued over time, regardless of the reason.
The point Im making here is There Is No Evidence. We cant back this up. All sources are unnamed. There are no public statements saying its occurring. There are no posts on social media organizing the sickout. But because of how the right wing propaganda machine works in this country people have invested in it to continue their narrative. This is how people get sucked in to information fallacies. This is how people follow theories that cant be verified. It starts with something small like an issue with the airlines and the next thing you know is they are out to get you. And where is the evidence? "Oh, the evidence is from my girlfriend on the east coast."
You wouldnt know her.
At the end of this, we have an absence of evidence. But that in itself doesnt mean there is absence of evidence either. We cant say this is occurring because the narrative is structured in a way to make it unfalsifiable. When you come across something that is unfalsifiable you have to deal with it with skepticism. Especially when it is primarily being circulated by a demographic group of people who are known for making stuff up. We dont have evidence that this is even occurring. So this is probably one that I am not getting behind. Because I dont believe it is happening. I honestly believe it is set up to maintain the belief that this is possible and aligned with some people's political convictions they want to believe it and if Pundits can get you to believe something without hard verifiable evidence they can get you to do anything. They can convince you to go to the Capital and get yourselves in trouble. They can convince you once you start believing without evidence. So there is no verifiable evidence to support this. But again, doesnt mean its not true so hope is still there. Just dont believe it based on a rumor and social media.
Conspiracies start when you believe it. Conspiracy theories turn bad when they become thought process exercises. When you start to believe a conspiracy theory and act on it and impacts your emotional state without any evidence.

Lazarus has arisen! Ten months in to the Joe fukcfest and this infestation writes a three act play about why the right is responsible that his boyfriend can't get a flight. Boyfriend is ok, but why try to cover that up? Who here believes this turd can get some trim? Well anyhow, here we go again, it's the fault of the Right.

Anyone down there on any of those islands who can get this mf laid? Let's start a 'Go Fund Me', how else could it happen?
 
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Other than gross anti-conservative generalizations and other meandering, what on earth are you talking about? You are starting to sound like Rainman. We all know your agenda, even that blind squirrel CD Wright, but you just don't have a point. Hell, CNN hasn't had a legitimate point based on evidence since W was running for POTUS. Please, instead of attacking with same old, same old BS, give us all a viable explanation for the woeful stranding of hundreds of SWA passengers and please include comments from pilots who tell the truth. And don't say it was Trump's fault
Notice he couldn’t comply with your request and resorted to what-about-ism instead.
 
Since you mention legitimate points, and BS It wasnt more than a few weeks ago Faux News Host Tucker Carlson had a guest who supposedly was the owner/repairman of the shop that repaired Hunter Biden's Laptop. The focus was on the content of the laptop; a few months before the 2020 general election. We are now in the month of October 2020! Where was this guy at the time the "story " broke????!!!! Or Faux should have had "him" on their site . Yeah, I know, Faux had this guy as "evidence." Seems Faux was waiting for the "right guy."
I guess you lack reading comprehension since your response never mentioned SWA.
 
Lazarus has arisen! Ten months in to the Joe fukcfest and this infestation writes a three act play about why the right is responsible that his boyfriend can't get a flight. Boyfriend is ok, but why try to cover that up? Who here believes this turd can get some trim? Well anyhow, here we go again, it's the fault of the Right.

Anyone down there on any of those islands who can get this mf laid? Let's start a 'Go Fund Me, how else could it happen?
About as much times as you and your right wing buddies mentioned the same thing for those on the left
 
The claims that have arisen because of the above, as well as evidence , the lack of evidence and things that are unfalsifiable. SWA has had a cancellations and the theory has risen that a secret classified intelligence body has ordered SWA to remove debris from Roswell NM and that is why there are numerous cancellations. There is also a claim being pushed by the right that all these cancellations are occurring because Pilots are calling in sick because they dont want to get the vaccine. Both theories have the same amount of evidence: NONE. There is no verifiable public evidence to back up either claim. To the contrary, the union that supposedly organized this sickout said "it isnt happening." The Airline has said its not happening. The FAA said its not happening. The evidence is basically , a while back, the Union said "they dont want a mandate," which is the Union's job which generally they default to oppose anything that isnt pre negotiated. Its that simple. Thats the totality of verfiable evidence. We have folks who say "well, I have a source at SWA.
They say its happening." There those who say "I have source at SWA that says it isnt." Neither one is verifiable. So what happens next?
Right now there so many folks on social media; hashtags supporting a strike that may not even be occurring, there isnt one press release saying that its happening soon or going to happen. The right wing propaganda machine pushed it foward becaue it helps their narrative to basically undermind the United States. So what happens next to keep the narrative alive when there is evidence to contradict it? You make it unfalsifiable. So in all likelihood someone will appear as guest on Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity or some other show, such as NewsMax that supports the right wing and they be a guest/guests and they are going to be a former pilot or a former member of the Union rep or even a legal analyst and they are going to say "The reason that there is no evidence is because if the pilots admit to doing this, its against the law." So the lack of evidence becomes evidence that it is occurring. Just likr its to secretive to remove the debris from Roswell. That just proves it is true."
There are a lot of theories, one that involves a letter from the alphabet, that relied on this theory to be spread. Its unfalsifiable; you cant prove that its wrong. It is designed to be set up that way. They, right wingers try to make it hard to counter their narrative by making it a secret; you have to be in the know to actually be able to confirm. And everyone likes to be in the know. Its a way of being accepted and its way of being socially accepted.
So what is a likely scenario for whats occurring? Lets say hypothetically on Aug 26 Reuters releases an article saying SWA will cut more than a 100 flights on Oct 07, the day before all this happened. And again hypothetically there is a small disruption that impacted other airlines but was able to recover quickly because their systems were more resilient. In the case of SWA, maybe some of their crews and pilots were out of place so flights had to be cancelled. Then it caused a ripple effect throughout Southwest . What is clear is the Union, who many people are saying is behind this have released more than one statement saying "they are not. There is no official or unofficial activity like this." Does this mean it isnt occurring? No, the union could be lying or maybe the Union doesnt know or perhaps there is a large disruption based on operational reasons and also some pilots who refuse to get the vaccine so they are burning thru the sick leave that they have accrued. That seems or could be likely. I woulde not find fault with an airline employee who used their benefits they have accrued over time, regardless of the reason.
The point Im making here is There Is No Evidence. We cant back this up. All sources are unnamed. There are no public statements saying its occurring. There are no posts on social media organizing the sickout. But because of how the right wing propaganda machine works in this country people have invested in it to continue their narrative. This is how people get sucked in to information fallacies. This is how people follow theories that cant be verified. It starts with something small like an issue with the airlines and the next thing you know is they are out to get you. And where is the evidence? "Oh, the evidence is from my girlfriend on the east coast."
You wouldnt know her.
At the end of this, we have an absence of evidence. But that in itself doesnt mean there is absence of evidence either. We cant say this is occurring because the narrative is structured in a way to make it unfalsifiable. When you come across something that is unfalsifiable you have to deal with it with skepticism. Especially when it is primarily being circulated by a demographic group of people who are known for making stuff up. We dont have evidence that this is even occurring. So this is probably one that I am not getting behind. Because I dont believe it is happening. I honestly believe it is set up to maintain the belief that this is possible and aligned with some people's political convictions they want to believe it and if Pundits can get you to believe something without hard verifiable evidence they can get you to do anything. They can convince you to go to the Capital and get yourselves in trouble. They can convince you once you start believing without evidence. So there is no verifiable evidence to support this. But again, doesnt mean its not true so hope is still there. Just dont believe it based on a rumor and social media.
Conspiracies start when you believe it. Conspiracy theories turn bad when they become thought process exercises. When you start to believe a conspiracy theory and act on it and impacts your emotional state without any evidence.
Ha,ha,ha, one long run on sentence. Go crawl back in your hole.
 
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Other than gross anti-conservative generalizations and other meandering, what on earth are you talking about? You are starting to sound like Rainman. We all know your agenda, even that blind squirrel CD Wright, but you just don't have a point. Hell, CNN hasn't had a legitimate point based on evidence since W was running for POTUS. Please, instead of attacking with same old, same old BS, give us all a viable explanation for the woeful stranding of hundreds of SWA passengers and please include comments from pilots who tell the truth. And don't say it was Trump's fault
The message that is being sent and the message everyone should latch onto is coming from the pilots of SWA. Its coming from those people that are standing up. The whole idea of voicing oppositions to mandates has been debunked, flatly debunked. Officials for the FAA, the pilots themselves, the airlines, the Union themselves, we now have the fact the right to call in sick for this period is the same as it was last summer. That alone indicates there is no widespread action. Im open to the idea there might still be pilots burning thru their sick leave before they end up leaving SWA but the idea there is coordinated action has been debunked. There has been aviation experts and consultants go to great lengths to explain how SWA uses a different system than other US airlines and how it is more susceptible to failure, which is what occurred. There are pilots that are out of place which caused flights to be cancelled and more flights getting cancelled which caused a domino effect.
This is all info that is out there. There are still people pushing this narrative. This info is out there even though its been flatly debunked. But there are people still pushing. Why????????? Because it will work!!!!!! Because they know a large segment of the population have been trained to not believe their eyes and ears but to believe the party and the party only. If they tell you 2+2=5 they will believe it. No evidence needed!!! Its a significant portion of the country. Its the usual suspects; its Trump, its Boebert, Its Cruz, their favorite talking heads. They will continue to do it because they will get away with it. Because their base has been trained not to ask questions, to do what they are told and forget about the evidence. They will continue to do it because its worked before. The same people that had their base support an imaginary strike are the same people. They told you there were issues with elections, the same people who told you to ignore the health recommendations and advice of public health experts and to listen to them. Its the same group of people and because it continues to work they will continue doing it.
All they have to do is to say "they love America" and use a distorted sense of patriotism and so they will convince a horde of people believing 2+2=5. The reality is if these individuals really loved their country they would get out of public light. If they are wrong this often about things that have consequences this severe , and loved the country they would stop influencing events because they are not very good at it.
If ones actions lead to the loss of lives of over 700,000 people, lead to the events of January 06, 2021, you would think they would st down but thats assuming they want to be leaders. They dont , they never did. Leaders dont want followers, they encourage, want more leaders. If there were people who truly were invested in this country they wouldnt be telling, influencing others to come to them for all the evidence. They wouldnt be saying that. They would be empowering us to lead from the small communities. Smart people dont like to exploit the uneducated. Smart people have a burning desire to educate. If there folks who prey on the ill informed and continue to push a narrative thats been debunked, you should stop listening to them. They have found a way to monetize you and of course if they stand in front or next to The American Flag, well, "thats how to Make America Great Again", i.e., Do what your told, ignore the evidence.
I know this incident is small, it may not have major impacts but the reality is this is asymptomatic of what is going on within the right wing of this country, where they just believe whatever they are told. All it takes is for the base to get angry. That is what this group has found; they have gathered a group of middle aged , middle income, middle America telling them who to hate , who to blame, and have found a way to make money off of it. They dont care what happens to the country. Start asking these people for evidence on their claims. You will find out they dont have any. They are using emotional manipulation to keep you in line.
@dolcane @lyndiola @irwinn @central17
 
The message that is being sent and the message everyone should latch onto is coming from the pilots of SWA. Its coming from those people that are standing up. The whole idea of voicing oppositions to mandates has been debunked, flatly debunked. Officials for the FAA, the pilots themselves, the airlines, the Union themselves, we now have the fact the right to call in sick for this period is the same as it was last summer. That alone indicates there is no widespread action. Im open to the idea there might still be pilots burning thru their sick leave before they end up leaving SWA but the idea there is coordinated action has been debunked. There has been aviation experts and consultants go to great lengths to explain how SWA uses a different system than other US airlines and how it is more susceptible to failure, which is what occurred. There are pilots that are out of place which caused flights to be cancelled and more flights getting cancelled which caused a domino effect.
This is all info that is out there. There are still people pushing this narrative. This info is out there even though its been flatly debunked. But there are people still pushing. Why????????? Because it will work!!!!!! Because they know a large segment of the population have been trained to not believe their eyes and ears but to believe the party and the party only. If they tell you 2+2=5 they will believe it. No evidence needed!!! Its a significant portion of the country. Its the usual suspects; its Trump, its Boebert, Its Cruz, their favorite talking heads. They will continue to do it because they will get away with it. Because their base has been trained not to ask questions, to do what they are told and forget about the evidence. They will continue to do it because its worked before. The same people that had their base support an imaginary strike are the same people. They told you there were issues with elections, the same people who told you to ignore the health recommendations and advice of public health experts and to listen to them. Its the same group of people and because it continues to work they will continue doing it.
All they have to do is to say "they love America" and use a distorted sense of patriotism and so they will convince a horde of people believing 2+2=5. The reality is if these individuals really loved their country they would get out of public light. If they are wrong this often about things that have consequences this severe , and loved the country they would stop influencing events because they are not very good at it.
If ones actions lead to the loss of lives of over 700,000 people, lead to the events of January 06, 2021, you would think they would st down but thats assuming they want to be leaders. They dont , they never did. Leaders dont want followers, they encourage, want more leaders. If there were people who truly were invested in this country they wouldnt be telling, influencing others to come to them for all the evidence. They wouldnt be saying that. They would be empowering us to lead from the small communities. Smart people dont like to exploit the uneducated. Smart people have a burning desire to educate. If there folks who prey on the ill informed and continue to push a narrative thats been debunked, you should stop listening to them. They have found a way to monetize you and of course if they stand in front or next to The American Flag, well, "thats how to Make America Great Again", i.e., Do what your told, ignore the evidence.
I know this incident is small, it may not have major impacts but the reality is this is asymptomatic of what is going on within the right wing of this country, where they just believe whatever they are told. All it takes is for the base to get angry. That is what this group has found; they have gathered a group of middle aged , middle income, middle America telling them who to hate , who to blame, and have found a way to make money off of it. They dont care what happens to the country. Start asking these people for evidence on their claims. You will find out they dont have any. They are using emotional manipulation to keep you in line.
@dolcane @lyndiola @irwinn @central17

Alright enough SWA. I buy all that you've pointed out, there is enough evidence and there isn't enough evidence to prove whatever it is that they did and didn't do because The Right thought but didn't think about vaccines that they did or did not get.

Hope your girlfriend(?) gets her(?) flight to or from you, whichever direction she(?) chooses to flee. My best guess for which there is plenty of proof or not so much, she's(?) started her swim toward the mainland.

Now, instead of this hogwash (mine certainly included), please begin the list of Joe's accomplishments.
 
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Girl friends fleeing???!!!! sounds like a everyday occurrence for you. They must really want to get away from you by any means possible, including swimming. You're all wet.
 
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