Hey both parties cheat...dont act like dems are great people....both parties suck ass
Yes both parties suck ass, but the Republicans aren’t cheating by filling the Supreme Court, they have the Constitution and precedent on their side.
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Hey both parties cheat...dont act like dems are great people....both parties suck ass
Thank you for proving my point and clearly defining the fact you guys lie to get your way.So you admit he is bipartisan with Republican Senators. Good to hear.
This is 2 responses that our country is ****ed...stop the bullshit and do what is right for the country...i am independent and what both parties are doing is disgraceful
By this logic we would still have slavery and women wouldn't be able to vote. That's the conservative way - preserving the ugliness and inequity of the past instead of facilitating the future.
Or until the Reps win the POTUS and Senate again and pack the court with an additional 20. Just deal with the consequeces of elections. Obama picked two intelectual lightweights in Sotomayor and especially Kagan. The Reps have to live with it. Basically loser dems think that Shumer is equal to Madison. Can only hope the country wakes up and understands the brilliance of the founders and the constitution versus the short terms lies and greed of the modern day democrat party. Venezuela is not a bad place if you are Maduro or one of his cronies. Mao and Stalin did not miss the millions they slaughtered.ion This works both ways, which means the Dems will proceed to pack the courts with four new SCOTUS picks and get rid of the filibuster, which will not only invalidate whoever Trump picks to replace RBG, but also make the court more Dem friendly for an entire lifetime.
Except Trump has already had nearly 200 Judges confirmed thanks to Harry Reid. Problem is Reid never considered the Senate would be lost in 14 then 16 and even more in 18. That is why it's best to leave tradition alone.I agree. But the Republicans are playing hardball and the democrats need to fight fire with fire. What the OP conveniently failed to mention was that McConnell simply refused to consider almost every single judge Obama put forward no matter what. So Harry Reid did change the rules for judges other than the Supreme Court. McConnell then refused to even consider a moderate nominee for the Supreme Court with the excuse that it was an election year. Then when they couldn't get 60 for Gorsich they changed the rules for the Supreme Court. Now it's all good to confirm a Supreme Court nominee in an election year.
So clearly McConnell is playing hardball and is very effective at it. Democrats need to respond. If they win the senate they better not confirm one single judge in the next congress unless Biden is president. If they have the senate and Biden is president then they also need to expand and pack the court. It's a shame that it would come to that but we're here. And it all goes back to McConnell's refusal to consider anyone that Obama put up. Yes both parties have fault here but the Republicans have taken it to the extreme.
Or until the Reps win the POTUS and Senate again and pack the court with an additional 20. Just deal with the consequeces of elections. Obama picked two intelectual lightweights in Sotomayor and especially Kagan. The Reps have to live with it. Basically loser dems think that Shumer is equal to Madison. Can only hope the country wake up and understands the brilliance of the founders and the constitution versus the short terms lies and greed of the modern day democrat party. Venezuela is not a bad place if you are Mzduro or one of his cronies. Mao and Stalin did not miss the millions they slaughtered.
You're delusional with your declining white man and repub dreams. People grow up and get jobs, have kids, want a better life, become republicans. Except the idiots.This is unlikely because Republicans face a fundamental numbers problem. Every four years millions of new voters reach voting age, millions more die off, and about a million people become naturalized citizens. Newer young voters tend to skew heavily Dem, older voters dying off tend to be more traditional/conservative, and immigrants tend to skew Dem as well. So it doesn't take a math degree to see why Republicans are slowly going the way of the Dodo bird, which is why they are now having to resort to dark tactics like gerrymandering, voter ID laws, preventing felons who have done their time from voting, reducing early mail in voting, and limiting immigration into the country. So if the Dems were to move forward with a scorched earth policy, there's little that can be done about it in the long run.
Raoul don't be dumb. Every 4 years young people become older, start making some money in their career, settle down start a family, and then they figure out real quick that they don't want to send more money to the Democrats in DC via higher taxes. Their daydream days of their youth turn a bit more conservative.This is unlikely because Republicans face a fundamental numbers problem. Every four years millions of new voters reach voting age, millions more die off, and about a million people become naturalized citizens. Newer young voters tend to skew heavily Dem, older voters dying off tend to be more traditional/conservative, and immigrants tend to skew Dem as well. So it doesn't take a math degree to see why Republicans are slowly going the way of the Dodo bird, which is why they are now having to resort to dark tactics like gerrymandering, voter ID laws, preventing felons who have done their time from voting, reducing early mail in voting, and limiting immigration into the country. So if the Dems were to move forward with a scorched earth policy, there's little that can be done about it in the long run.
Not to mention the youngest of voters tend to have the lowest turnout.You're delusional with your declining white man and repub dreams. People grow up and get jobs, have kids, want a better life, become republicans. Except the idiots.
You're delusional with your declining white man and repub dreams. People grow up and get jobs, have kids, want a better life, become republicans. Except the idiots.
Except Trump has already had nearly 200 Judges confirmed thanks to Harry Reid. Problem is Reid never considered the Senate would be lost in 14 then 16 and even more in 18. That is why it's best to leave tradition alone.
Except Trump has already had nearly 200 Judges confirmed thanks to Harry Reid. Problem is Reid never considered the Senate would be lost in 14 then 16 and even more in 18. That is why it's best to leave tradition alone.
Whatever the reason it would have been resolved by simply doing one thing; WIN BACK OR HOLD THE SENATE and the Democrats failed to do so. This was 2013 not 2016. Just so you know I don't like when any of these Institutions use these tactics (they both do) A President puts forth a person for advice and consent, that person should get an up or down vote. If they don't like the person, vote no.I agree. But you also have to acknowledge that McConnell broke tradition by simply refusing to even consider a large number of judges Obama nominated. Automatic filibuster regardless. He was the first senate majority leader to utilize this tactic. It would have been one thing if there was a problem with specific nominees but that wasn't the case. It was filibuster regardless. So unfortunately the democrats enacted the only option open to them.
And we still have slavery if It was for the DemocratsBy this logic we would still have slavery and women wouldn't be able to vote. That's the conservative way - preserving the ugliness and inequity of the past instead of facilitating the future.
Whatever the reason it would have been resolved by simply doing one thing; WIN BACK OR HOLD THE SENATE and the Democrats failed to do so. This was 2013 not 2016. Just so you know I don't like when any of these Institutions use these tactics (they both do) A President puts forth a person for advice and consent, that person should get an up or down vote. If they don't like the person, vote no.
We do Mike and the minorities don't even realize it............The Dem policies keep them enslaved.And
And we still have slavery if It was for the Democrats
Don't know where I lost you but pretty sure I wrote " A President puts forth a nominee and the person should get an up or down vote." Did you not read that?I understand when it was and McConnell simply refused to consider these nominees, which is not consistent with the traditions that you spoke of. Seems like you are okay with McConnell breaking that tradition but aren't okay with Reid breaking the tradition. Look both parties are responsible but this all started with McConnell's tactics.
Don't know where I lost you but pretty sure I wrote " A President puts forth a nominee and the person should get an up or down vote." Did you not read that?
You can not agree with me and then write this garbage. Pack the court? Absolutly anything to ensure a conservative court? A Justice died. There is a vacant seat. President nominates Senate confirms. Thats bread and butter constitution stuff. He wouldn't be able to confirm if not for the Nuclear Option put in by Harry Reid. They are doing their jobs that voters elected them to do. Pack the court says " We don't like the make up of the court so lets change the rules again." Nonsense.I did and I agree. It's a shame it came to this but the democrats really have no choice but to expand the court and pack it if they win the presidency and the senate. The Republicans have shown they will do absolutely anything to ensure a conservative court and the dems need to respond accordingly. And then I'm sure when the Republicans have the chance they would do the same and round and round we go. And this is exactly why McConnell's approach to block every nominee no matter what was just wrong. McConnell is the epitome of what is wrong in DC. No interest in compromise. Dems also have their share of these people too
Listen this is what is going to happen....and there is no need to bother trying act like what is happening trying to jam a supreme court justice through without hearing Obamas pick is just not going to be tolerated. These are FACTS! Supreme Court picks are not just for Republicans. You gonna learn today....lolYou can not agree with me and then write this garbage. Pack the court? Absolutly anything to ensure a conservative court? A Justice died. There is a vacant seat. President nominates Senate confirms. Thats bread and butter constitution stuff. He wouldn't be able to confirm if not for the Nuclear Option put in by Harry Reid. They are doing their jobs that voters elected them to do. Pack the court says " We don't like the make up of the court so lets change the rules again." Nonsense.
Ok CD ok. Politics is a dirty business. Tell me how clean the Dems are. I'll wait. Y'all futzed up when you changed the vote count and now it is going to bite you right in your azzez. The IRONY here is when Harry Reid did it the Republicans told him EXACTLY what would one day happen and here we are................Short term thinking can harm longer term results in life. Very common mistake.Listen this is what is going to happen....and there is no need to bother trying act like what is happening trying to jam a supreme court justice through without hearing Obamas pick is just not going to be tolerated. These are FACTS! Supreme Court picks are not just for Republicans. You gonna learn today....lol
If politics are a dirty business then you should have no problem with what is about to go down. Right? You should be well aware of the ramifications....and have no problem with it. You want to point fingers at one side but at the end of the day...Democrats just aren't going to allow you to ignore Obama's pick and them pick your own. It's a bridge too far. It doesn't compare to what Ried did and pretending this would is rather ridiculous. The Dems aren't going to lay down here. You should already know that and you can't just tell me "politics is a dirty business" when your party does something wrong on all levels and then act outraged when Dems do. It's not gonna work that way. People aren't going to be bullied. They will get hit right back in the mouth....so yes it is a dirty game.Ok CD ok. Politics is a dirty business. Tell me how clean the Dems are. I'll wait. Y'all futzed up when you changed the vote count and now it is going to bite you right in your azzez. The IRONY here is when Harry Reid did it the Republicans told him EXACTLY what would one day happen and here we are................Short term thinking can harm longer term results in life. Very common mistake.
This is unlikely because Republicans face a fundamental numbers problem. Every four years millions of new voters reach voting age, millions more die off, and about a million people become naturalized citizens. Newer young voters tend to skew heavily Dem, older voters dying off tend to be more traditional/conservative, and immigrants tend to skew Dem as well. So it doesn't take a math degree to see why Republicans are slowly going the way of the Dodo bird, which is why they are now having to resort to dark tactics like gerrymandering, voter ID laws, preventing felons who have done their time from voting, reducing early mail in voting, and limiting immigration into the country. So if the Dems were to move forward with a scorched earth policy, there's little that can be done about it in the long run.
Basically you are saying that you that Chavez had it right and you want the US to be Venezuela. See how that works out for you.
Funny how all of a sudden everything that has stayed the same for over 200 years, Dems want to change.This works both ways, which means the Dems will proceed to pack the courts with four new SCOTUS picks and get rid of the filibuster, which will not only invalidate whoever Trump picks to replace RBG, but also make the court more Dem friendly for an entire lifetime.
Funny how all of a sudden everything that has stayed the same for over 200 years, Dems want to change.
Why dont they STFU and actually leguislate something. All dems have done is crawl all over Trump.
Yeah and add 2 states.
5 2MORE months
Obamas pick had ZERO chance of getting confirmed ZERO. Just as the Democrats would do if the roles were reversed. ZERO SHOT! Changing our institutions to help your side out because you haven't been able to recapture the Senate will not happen yet that is how you Liberals see America. A country and institutions that need to be changed to benefit your warped power grab. Ruth Ginsberg died. The Supreme Court seat is open, the President has a constitutional duty to name a Justice and BECAUSE the Senate is controlled by the Republicans and the dumb shyt Reid did in 2013, the nominee will be confirmed. Suck it.If politics are a dirty business then you should have no problem with what is about to go down. Right? You should be well aware of the ramifications....and have no problem with it. You want to point fingers at one side but at the end of the day...Democrats just aren't going to allow you to ignore Obama's pick and them pick your own. It's a bridge too far. It doesn't compare to what Ried did and pretending this would is rather ridiculous. The Dems aren't going to lay down here. You should already know that and you can't just tell me "politics is a dirty business" when your party does something wrong on all levels and then act outraged when Dems do. It's not gonna work that way. People aren't going to be bullied. They will get hit right back in the mouth....so yes it is a dirty game.
Stop your BULLSHIT! It's not for the Republicans to decide what a hearing will result in...nor is it for you. We have a process for a reason. You bring it to a hearing. Then they vote. You don't just dismiss a legitimate nomination.Obamas pick had ZERO chance of getting confirmed ZERO. Just as the Democrats would do if the roles were reversed. ZERO SHOT! Changing our institutions to help your side out because you haven't been able to recapture the Senate will not happen yet that is how you Liberals see America. A country and institutions that need to be changed to benefit your warped power grab. Ruth Ginsberg died. The Supreme Court seat is open, the President has a constitutional duty to name a Justice and BECAUSE the Senate is controlled by the Republicans and the dumb shyt Reid did in 2013, the nominee will be confirmed. Suck it.
Stop your BULLSHIT! It's not for the Republicans to decide what a hearing will result in...nor is it for you. We have a process for a reason. You bring it to a hearing. Then they vote. You don't just dismiss a legitimate nomination.
[/Q Yes they do check history. It's a legitimate nomination to you but not to them. Sorry Charlie.
I agree, I dont believe Supreme Court should be a lifetime appointment. Maybe 10 years.It’s probably related to right wingers playing politics with Obama’s last scotus pick. When you brazenly cheat you should expect brazen retribution.
Beyond that, it’s actually a great idea to cycle more justices in and out to keep things fresh and up to date with social norms.
It reminds me of debates here. You take shots and then you give shots and after that you start going on my facebook page and look to get personal with me and my family and friends. That's a bridge too far. You escalated the matter to the point were now I just dont GAF......and this behavior is not going to be tolerated. Its going to end one way or another.I agree. But the Republicans are playing hardball and the democrats need to fight fire with fire. What the OP conveniently failed to mention was that McConnell simply refused to consider almost every single judge Obama put forward no matter what. So Harry Reid did change the rules for judges other than the Supreme Court. McConnell then refused to even consider a moderate nominee for the Supreme Court with the excuse that it was an election year. Then when they couldn't get 60 for Gorsich they changed the rules for the Supreme Court. Now it's all good to confirm a Supreme Court nominee in an election year.
So clearly McConnell is playing hardball and is very effective at it. Democrats need to respond. If they win the senate they better not confirm one single judge in the next congress unless Biden is president. If they have the senate and Biden is president then they also need to expand and pack the court. It's a shame that it would come to that but we're here. And it all goes back to McConnell's refusal to consider anyone that Obama put up. Yes both parties have fault here but the Republicans have taken it to the extreme.
CD the gloves are off because the Obama administration spied on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.It reminds me of debates here. You take shots and then you give shots and after that you start going on my facebook page and look to get personal with me and my family and friends. That's a bridge too far. You escalated the matter to the point were now I just dont GAF......and this behavior is not going to be tolerated. Its going to end one way or another.
This think with the judge is the same thing. You can't go back and expect two opposing parties not to take shots at each other that are dirty but there is as such thing as a bridge too far. When you do that you can expect the gloves to come off and there is no turning back.
That's only more bullshit because the fact of the matter is the Trump administration raised the right flags and were found guilty. Obama had nothing to do with it. The intelligence agencies are not going to allow the criminal activity (They even pleaded guilty to multiple times) to not be checked....and I don't GAF if they don't like this fact. Russia is an American enemy. Always will be.....so any administration trying to conspire with them needs to be checked.CD
CD the gloves are off because the Obama administration spied on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.
The gloves are off because the Democrats dragged this country thru 3.5 years of hell with Russian collusion hoax investigations costing millions of dollars and complete waste of time.
The gloves are off because the Democrats brought forth some old hag and tried to ruin Kavanaughs life.
The gloves are off because the Democrats conducted a sham impeachment for the 1st time in our history where only 1 party in the House voted to conduct the impeachment.
Now here you are talking about when the gloves come off................?
52 more months of watching “DO NOTHING DEMS” do nothing except whine and bitch about Trump!That's only more bullshit because the fact of the matter is the Trump administration raised the right flags and were found guilty. Obama had nothing to do with it. The intelligence agencies are not going to allow the criminal activity (They even pleaded guilty to multiple times) to not be checked....and I don't GAF if they don't like this fact. Russia is an American enemy. Always will be.....so any administration trying to conspire with them needs to be checked.
All you are doing here is looking for excuses....but they do not hold water.