Wisconsin Absentee Ballots
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Great information. Does the Red team have the legal team to properly present this? Per my recent thread re Michigan. Rudy needs to go away.
Indefinitely confined means you live in a nursing home. So it's really just showing that more people voted by mail in nursing homes this year, which does make sense for 2020. It doesn't need a photo id but it does need a witness.
Here's actual sources and not just a random twitter account saying things you wish were true. This took like 5 minutes to google. You should try it sometime.
Here's actual sources and not just a random twitter account saying things you wish were true. This took like 5 minutes to google. You should try it sometime.
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Indefinitely confined means you live in a nursing home. So it's really just showing that more people voted my mail in nursing homes this year, which does make sense for 2020. It doesn't need a photo id but it does need a witness.
Here's actual sources and not just a random twitter account saying things you wish were true. This took like 5 minutes to google. You should try it sometime.
Just pay attention to who's defending Trump and not the Republican party. And voila off comes the hood. It's a few closet members here who've exposed themselves.
Bahahahahaha guess how many assisted living or nursing home beds there are in Wisconsin as of 2019? Guess lmaoIndefinitely confined means you live in a nursing home. So it's really just showing that more people voted by mail in nursing homes this year, which does make sense for 2020. It doesn't need a photo id but it does need a witness.
Here's actual sources and not just a random twitter account saying things you wish were true. This took like 5 minutes to google. You should try it sometime.
32,059 of which were at 77% capacity!
Wanna try that again!!!
Your stat comes from this link, but it's only about SNF:
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Here's the difference between SNF and nursing homes:
The Difference Between Skilled Nursing and Nursing Home Care
Learn about the differences between long and short-term care in a nursing home
SNF is a higher level of care and doesn't include all nursing homes.
Once again, if you took 5 minutes to google you could have saved yourself from looking like an "M" word.
I'm sorry whatever twitter account you're copying this from is letting you down.
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Valiant effort at doubling down on what is incorrect information on your part. By your sites own admission there are 1.7 million people according to the cdc that fall under this type of care. Let’s just average that out per state. That’s 34,000 per state. Obviously some will have more and some will have less. I assure you Wisconsin isn’t more lol. I’ve been there many times. So once again when the 2020 numbers at 10x’s the amount of all combined numbers for the last 10 years something is very fishy!Your stat comes from this link, but it's only about SNF:
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Here's the difference between SNF and nursing homes:
The Difference Between Skilled Nursing and Nursing Home Care
Learn about the differences between long and short-term care in a nursing homewww.familyassets.com
SNF is a higher level of care and doesn't include all nursing homes.
Once again, if you took 5 minutes to google you could have saved yourself from looking like an "M" word.
I'm sorry whatever twitter account you're copying this from is letting you down.
Here's the issue dude. You guys are operating in bad faith. For example, if a "conservative" journalist was concerned about this issue, they could talk to Wisconsin election officials about what qualifies someone to vote in that way. They could check voting records and interview people that voted that way. Did anyone do that? No. They just posted the numbers on twitter with misleading context and called it fishy. No one actually wants to solve anything. They just want to give gullible people like you a reason to keep donating to the Trump cult.
So you find fault in the original numbers? Find the actual numbers then and post them.
I find fault in huge leaps of logic in the original post. The idea that covid doesn't effect "indefinitely confined" voters is stupid.
Here's a better definition, from here: https://city.milwaukee.gov/election/Voter-Info/VotingbyAbsenteeBallot
"Voters who are indefinitely confined (meaning they have difficulty getting to the polls due to age, illness, infirmity, or disability) may request a ballot be sent to them for every election by checking the box on the application. Indefinitely confined voters are not required to provide photo ID. "
It's literally all old people. Do you think old people mail in voting would increase by ten times in 2020? Yeah that's completely plausible. The original post and subsequent defending isn't genuinely trying to find real issues.
Again if something is fraudulent go to court and win. Haven't done it yet. Maybe you should call the big hotline they set up and present these tweets as evidence. Rudy can argue your case for you. Lol
I don’t dispute that theory at all but when the number itself dwarfs that of what’s even probable it raises a few eyebrows. Just saying!
I should’ve listen to my parents and went to law school. I took the easy way out and now I build cases against sh-theads who, like you guys, don’t think the system applies to them.
Do you guys really just not believe in a modicum of research for goodness sake, how about a the bare minimum of intellectual pursuit.
Google, for **** sake, go to their website, they spelled this shit out.
elections.wi.gov
Guidance for Indefinitely Confined Electors COVID-19
Priority
High Priority
Date
March 29, 2020 - 2:00pm
To
Wisconsin County Clerks
Wisconsin Municipal Clerks
City of Milwaukee Election Commission
Milwaukee County Election Commission
From
Meagan Wolfe, Administrator
Due to the continuing spread of COVID-19, staff of the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) has received numerous inquiries regarding the application of the indefinitely confined designation for absentee voters under Wisconsin Statutes. At its meeting of March 27, 2020, the Commission discussed this issue and adopted the following guidance related to the use of indefinitely confined status to assist local election officials working with absentee voters:
1. Designation of indefinitely confined status is for each individual voter to make based upon their current circumstance. It does not require permanent or total inability to travel outside of the residence. The designation is appropriate for electors who are indefinitely confined because of age, physical illness or infirmity or are disabled for an indefinite period.
2. Indefinitely confined status shall not be used by electors simply as a means to avoid the photo ID requirement without regard to whether they are indefinitely confined because of age, physical illness, infirmity or disability.
This guidance is consistent with and supplements previous statements of the WEC related to absentee voters who may qualify as indefinitely confined or “permanent” absentee voters. For ease of reference, on March 24, 2020, the WEC posted the following guidance in one of its FAQ documents addressing issues related to conducting the Spring Election in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic:
Indefinitely Confined Absentee Applications
WEC staff has received numerous questions from clerks about the increase in voters requesting absentee ballots as indefinitely confined. Wisconsin Statutes provide the option for a voter to self-certify whether they meet the definition of indefinitely confined. The statutory definition of "age, illness, infirmity or disability" does not require any voter to meet a threshold for qualification and indefinitely confined status need not be permanent. A voter with a broken leg or one recovering from surgery may be temporarily indefinitely confined and may use that status when voting during that period of time.
We understand the concern over the use of indefinitely confined status and do not condone abuse of that option as it is an invaluable accommodation for many voters in Wisconsin. During the current public health crisis, many voters of a certain age or in at-risk populations may meet that standard of indefinitely confined until the crisis abates. We have told clerks if they do not believe a voter understood the declaration they made when requesting an absentee ballot, they can contact the voter for confirmation of their status. They should do so using appropriate discretion as voters are still entitled to privacy concerning their medical and disability status. Any request for confirmation of indefinitely confined status should not be accusatory in nature.
There may be a need to do some review of the absentee voting rolls after this election to confirm voters who met the definition of indefinitely confined during the public health crisis would like to continue that status. WEC staff has already discussed this possibility and may be able to provide resources to assist clerks with these efforts.
This guidance is based upon applicable statutes. An elector who is indefinitely confined because of age, physical illness or infirmity or is disabled for an indefinite period may by signing a statement to that effect require that an absentee ballot be sent to the elector automatically for every election. Wis. Stat. § 6.86(2)(a). The absentee ballot request form asks voters to certify to their indefinitely confined status. Statutes do not establish the option to require proof or documentation from indefinitely confined voters. Clerks may tactfully verify with voters that the voter understood the indefinitely confined status designation when they submitted their request but they may not request or require proof.
An elector who qualifies as indefinitely confined “may, in lieu of providing proof of identification, submit with his or her absentee ballot a statement signed by the same individual who witnesses voting of the ballot which contains the name and address of the elector and verifies that the name and address are correct.” Wis. Stat. 6.87(4)(b)2. Thus, indefinitely confined electors may satisfy the photo ID requirement by obtaining the signature of a witness on the absentee ballot certificate envelope.
Electors who are indefinitely confined due to age, physical illness, infirmity or disability, may be unable to obtain a current photo ID or make a copy to submit with their written absentee ballot request or upload an image of their photo ID with their electronic request through MyVote Wisconsin. If a clerk is contacted by an elector in such circumstances, WEC recommends discussing the options and making the voter aware of the criteria for qualifying as an indefinitely confined elector.
If any elector is no longer indefinitely confined, they shall so notify the municipal clerk. Wis. Stat. 6.86(2)(a). An elector also loses indefinitely confined status if they do not vote in a Spring or General Election and do not respond to a mailing from the municipal clerk asking whether they wish to continue automatically receiving absentee ballots. Wis. Stat. 6.86(2)(b). Finally, the municipal clerk shall remove the name of any elector from the list of indefinitely confined electors upon receipt of reliable information that an elector no longer qualifies for that designation and service. The clerk shall notify the elector of such action not taken at the elector's request within 5 days, if possible. Wis. Stat. § 6.86(2)(b).
If you have questions regarding this communication, please contact the Help Desk at 608-261-2028 or elections@wi.gov.
You intellectual sloth.
Google, for **** sake, go to their website, they spelled this shit out.
Guidance for Indefinitely Confined Electors COVID-19 | Wisconsin Elections Commission
Due to the continuing spread of COVID-19, staff of the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) has received numerous inquiries regarding the application of the indefinitely confined designation for absentee voters under Wisconsin Statutes. At its meeting of March 27, 2020, the Commission discussed...
elections.wi.gov
Guidance for Indefinitely Confined Electors COVID-19
Priority
High Priority
Date
March 29, 2020 - 2:00pm
To
Wisconsin County Clerks
Wisconsin Municipal Clerks
City of Milwaukee Election Commission
Milwaukee County Election Commission
From
Meagan Wolfe, Administrator
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1. Designation of indefinitely confined status is for each individual voter to make based upon their current circumstance. It does not require permanent or total inability to travel outside of the residence. The designation is appropriate for electors who are indefinitely confined because of age, physical illness or infirmity or are disabled for an indefinite period.
2. Indefinitely confined status shall not be used by electors simply as a means to avoid the photo ID requirement without regard to whether they are indefinitely confined because of age, physical illness, infirmity or disability.
This guidance is consistent with and supplements previous statements of the WEC related to absentee voters who may qualify as indefinitely confined or “permanent” absentee voters. For ease of reference, on March 24, 2020, the WEC posted the following guidance in one of its FAQ documents addressing issues related to conducting the Spring Election in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic:
Indefinitely Confined Absentee Applications
WEC staff has received numerous questions from clerks about the increase in voters requesting absentee ballots as indefinitely confined. Wisconsin Statutes provide the option for a voter to self-certify whether they meet the definition of indefinitely confined. The statutory definition of "age, illness, infirmity or disability" does not require any voter to meet a threshold for qualification and indefinitely confined status need not be permanent. A voter with a broken leg or one recovering from surgery may be temporarily indefinitely confined and may use that status when voting during that period of time.
We understand the concern over the use of indefinitely confined status and do not condone abuse of that option as it is an invaluable accommodation for many voters in Wisconsin. During the current public health crisis, many voters of a certain age or in at-risk populations may meet that standard of indefinitely confined until the crisis abates. We have told clerks if they do not believe a voter understood the declaration they made when requesting an absentee ballot, they can contact the voter for confirmation of their status. They should do so using appropriate discretion as voters are still entitled to privacy concerning their medical and disability status. Any request for confirmation of indefinitely confined status should not be accusatory in nature.
There may be a need to do some review of the absentee voting rolls after this election to confirm voters who met the definition of indefinitely confined during the public health crisis would like to continue that status. WEC staff has already discussed this possibility and may be able to provide resources to assist clerks with these efforts.
This guidance is based upon applicable statutes. An elector who is indefinitely confined because of age, physical illness or infirmity or is disabled for an indefinite period may by signing a statement to that effect require that an absentee ballot be sent to the elector automatically for every election. Wis. Stat. § 6.86(2)(a). The absentee ballot request form asks voters to certify to their indefinitely confined status. Statutes do not establish the option to require proof or documentation from indefinitely confined voters. Clerks may tactfully verify with voters that the voter understood the indefinitely confined status designation when they submitted their request but they may not request or require proof.
An elector who qualifies as indefinitely confined “may, in lieu of providing proof of identification, submit with his or her absentee ballot a statement signed by the same individual who witnesses voting of the ballot which contains the name and address of the elector and verifies that the name and address are correct.” Wis. Stat. 6.87(4)(b)2. Thus, indefinitely confined electors may satisfy the photo ID requirement by obtaining the signature of a witness on the absentee ballot certificate envelope.
Electors who are indefinitely confined due to age, physical illness, infirmity or disability, may be unable to obtain a current photo ID or make a copy to submit with their written absentee ballot request or upload an image of their photo ID with their electronic request through MyVote Wisconsin. If a clerk is contacted by an elector in such circumstances, WEC recommends discussing the options and making the voter aware of the criteria for qualifying as an indefinitely confined elector.
If any elector is no longer indefinitely confined, they shall so notify the municipal clerk. Wis. Stat. 6.86(2)(a). An elector also loses indefinitely confined status if they do not vote in a Spring or General Election and do not respond to a mailing from the municipal clerk asking whether they wish to continue automatically receiving absentee ballots. Wis. Stat. 6.86(2)(b). Finally, the municipal clerk shall remove the name of any elector from the list of indefinitely confined electors upon receipt of reliable information that an elector no longer qualifies for that designation and service. The clerk shall notify the elector of such action not taken at the elector's request within 5 days, if possible. Wis. Stat. § 6.86(2)(b).
If you have questions regarding this communication, please contact the Help Desk at 608-261-2028 or elections@wi.gov.
You intellectual sloth.
The system definitely applies to all of us including your dear leader. He lost. Get over it and tighten up cash. You're better than nonsense conspiracy theories. There's a reason why he hasn't won shit in court
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