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Exit polls revealed the opposite. It showed Repug voters were more rural and undereducated. Why do you find it necessary to make up shyt?

The same polls that had Hillary winning, you can say their exit polls, they’re still not legit, depending where they’re taken. Republicans don’t have to bus their voters in to vote, nor do they have a problem producing ID. You still haven’t lost faith in your news sources, what’s it going to take, before you step back and think about how often they’ve been wrong the last three years.
 
The same polls that had Hillary winning, you can say their exit polls, they’re still not legit, depending where they’re taken. Republicans don’t have to bus their voters in to vote, nor do they have a problem producing ID. You still haven’t lost faith in your news sources, what’s it going to take, before you step back and think about how often they’ve been wrong the last three years.
If you still haven't lost faith in your serial lying pres, what;s it going to take before you step back and think about how many lies he;s uttered since taking office?
 
If you still haven't lost faith in your serial lying pres, what;s it going to take before you step back and think about how many lies he;s uttered since taking office?

If you really want it to be true, and all your left wing fact check sites tell you it is, than it must be true.
 
The information is from the serial liar himself so maybe you guys have a point.....lol. Maybe some of you Trump supporters are on to something. We can't really believe a word that comes out of his lying mouth. Even when he rats himself out and is too stupid to realize what he is doing.
 
The information is from the serial liar himself so maybe you guys have a point.....lol. Maybe some of you Trump supporters are on to something. We can't really believe a word that comes out of his lying mouth. Even when he rats himself out and is too stupid to realize what he is doing.


Trump has been the right the last three years, the Democrats and the press have been the proven liars. So far every coup has failed.
 
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He has done both. He's acted in his own interest in trying to secure another 4 years....which whether right or wrong politicians on both sides of the aisle do all the time. He has many times launched personal attacks because he doesnt like criticism which can also be seen as self serving. As far as I know I havent seen any details where he has used the White House for his own financial gain.

As for serving this country...the economy is kicking ass. But on the other hand, the dem congress is purposely not willing to even find middle ground on anything with Trump so they can claim and render him ineffective for the sole purpose of trying to get him out of office. I will even admit that there were times Republicans pulled the same sh*t with Obama...but nowhere near the scale of what we're seeing with Dem leaders.

As for foreign policy, I am not saying that Trump could have struck good deals with North Korea, China and other countries had the Democrats not put 100% of their time trying to impeach Trump by holding congressional investigations every time they get out of bed in the morning....but by holding what seems to be a kangaroo court most of the time....I am betting foreign leaders arent going to even attempt good faith negotiations when they know they have leverage because the Dems in congress are trying to hang him.

Have you heard of the emoluments clause? Please do us a favor and read up on it before making a fool of yourself. Smfh
 
Greatest POTUS in my lifetime - more positive things done in 21/2 years than any President in the last 100 years or more Even better than Reagan and that’s saying something .If the Dems would think about our country first instead of obstructing every move he makes and worrying about losing their power our country would be even better off .
He could cure cancer and they would complain that he didn’t eradicate heart disease
Please re-read your post and let us know if you sound sane?
 
Have you heard of the emoluments clause? Please do us a favor and read up on it before making a fool of yourself. Smfh
The personal insults again? Do I have to remind you about what every medical study and survey says about your IQ? Do I need to start talking about lack of self respect with people who are obese? Lets play.....I gotta lots more presents to give you. Please continue insulting me so you can unleash the beast....I'z ready.
 
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The personal insults again? Do I have to remind you about what every medical study and survey says about your IQ? Do I need to start talking about lack of self respect with people who are obese? Lets play.....I gotta lots more presents to give you. Please continue insulting me so you can the unleash the beast....I'z ready.

That was no insult. Calling you out for being foolish in your lack of knowledge of Trump's corruption is the right thing to do. Also, learn how to write proper English before trying to insult me. You're a typical Trump supporter if you know what I mean.
 
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That was no insult. Calling you out for being foolish in your lack of knowledge of Trump's corruption is the right thing to do. Also, learn how to write proper English before trying to insult me. You're a typical Trump supporter if you know what I mean.
I used proper English. Isnt "Gotta" and "I'z" part of the Cems household lexicon? I told you before, an insult is an insult and if you call me a fool or the other names you have in the past I will fight back. The ball is always in your court.
 
I used proper English. Isnt "Gotta" and "I'z" part of the Cems household lexicon? I told you before, an insult is an insult and if you call me a fool or the other names you have in the past I will fight back. The ball is always in your court.
Lets do this!!
 
Lets do this!!
Go ahead....throw another personal insult my way so the games can begin. Unless when you said "You are the typical Trump supporter if you know what I mean" is a reference to me being white trash." Please confirm thats what you meant so we can get this baby going.
 
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Pelosi announcers formal impeachment inquiry. This is going to be awesome---watching the Trumpers squeal to the end!

Have you actually read what the discussions were about regarding the Ukraine? Biden and his son was reported to be involved in illegal activities IN the Ukraine and the Ukraine government was involved in an investigation. If Biden and his son were involved in illegal activities in Great Britain .. would it not be prudent .. or necessary .. to ask for details? Nothing to see here .. another Democratic Party distraction attempt without any foundation. Not really "democratic" party .. that apparently ceased to exist a decade ago and was replaced by a socialist, anti-American 'organization'.
 
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CD, I honestly think that some republican senators will in the end vote to impeach once the house ends their inquiry, and votes impeachment as I expect they will, and then passes it along to the Senate. Once the gravity of these Trump sins fully set in, how history will judge each and every one of them, they will do what's right. I pray for that. I don't know how many will do the right thing. I wish it is all of them because what Trump has done for his own personal gain, his colluding with a foreign government, holding up aid that congress appropriated to that country, and dangling the aid over the Ukrainian president's head, then initially lying about it and then finally resigning himself to the truth because he was caught, all of it is wrong and bad for our country. I knew it was over for Trump when he sent Rudy out to cover for him, and Rudy couldn't even keep his lies straight. They should lock his ass up along with Barr.

But what I'm saying in other words, it will not be a 100% partisan vote along party lines. Watch. I am also hoping that the American public get off their GD cell phones and pay attention to what is going on. I'm sick of hearing that the public is sick of hearing about Trump and more of before. Wrong answer. I also believe that our democracy is paper thin right now. Trump has shredded it. Think of all that he's done. It's something every day.

These fellow Canes fans here in the lounge who are still defending Trump are literally like sheep. During Mueller they were all in on Trump not colluding to get the Russians to help sway our 2016 election. That was their central argument. Mueller found no serious evidence of collusion although there were many hints. I know better, but I accept the report as is even with the many counts of obstruction. I don't accept that a sitting president can't be indicted. That needs to be changed. I mean who knew that a fking memo rules the day on a president's ability to break laws and walk.

I don't think any of you who still support Trump after this latest fiasco have a conscience. Not one of you. Sad state of affairs that winning an argument over a corrupt and incompetent president is more important than doing the right thing and support this impeachment. It is the right thing to do, whether you're left or right or in the middle on your politics.

Does not one of you see the light yet?

Corrupt and incompetent? Are you referring to the Clintons or Anti American Obama? Hillary Clinton and her devious background and personal goals of personal enrichment with "0" care for the American public is a key reason that Trump is IN the White House. The FACT that the Bidens were being investigated for potentially illegal activities IN THE UKRAINE by the Ukrainian government is being glossed over entirely. The democratic party has become a national joke .. or rather an international joke.
 
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Corrupt and incompetent? Are you referring to the Clintons or Anti American Obama? Hillary Clinton and her devious background and personal goals of personal enrichment with "0" care for the American public is a key reason that Trump is IN the White House. The FACT that the Bidens were being investigated for potentially illegal activities IN THE UKRAINE by the Ukrainian government is being glossed over entirely. The democratic party has become a national joke .. or rather an international joke.
Well said +1
 
Corrupt and incompetent? Are you referring to the Clintons or Anti American Obama? Hillary Clinton and her devious background and personal goals of personal enrichment with "0" care for the American public is a key reason that Trump is IN the White House. The FACT that the Bidens were being investigated for potentially illegal activities IN THE UKRAINE by the Ukrainian government is being glossed over entirely. The democratic party has become a national joke .. or rather an international joke.


read the whistleblower letter
 
Corrupt and incompetent? Are you referring to the Clintons or Anti American Obama? Hillary Clinton and her devious background and personal goals of personal enrichment with "0" care for the American public is a key reason that Trump is IN the White House. The FACT that the Bidens were being investigated for potentially illegal activities IN THE UKRAINE by the Ukrainian government is being glossed over entirely. The democratic party has become a national joke .. or rather an international joke.

No, you're the joke for believing Rudy and Fox News. Now go read the whistleblower complaint.

Personal gain
 
The House will impeach and the Senate will try Trump, presided by Chief Justice John Roberts, then vote after the trial.

The Senate will vote along party lines w/ possibly a few republican defections at best and Trump will walk.

But this a sham vote. Senators who vote no to convict will have broken their sworn affirmation to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all...........

Trump clearly was dangling aid to the a Ukrainian for his own personal gain in the upcoming election. He clearly colluded with a foreign government in order to sway the 2020 election by requesting dirt be dug up on the Bidens (Joe & son Hunter) in who he perceives will be his opponent in the election. He also enlisted his personal attorney and the US AG to assist in this conspiracy.

Once news of the whistleblower broke, Trump lied repeatedly, and quickly released the aid money to the Ukrainian govt, on or about Sep 12th. He also had DNI hold the document that by law is supposed to be turned over to congress.

I wonder how many Ukrainian Soldiers & Civilians died as a direct result of aid appropriated by Congress being held up by a crooked fking president who was clearly attaching aid to getting the dirt he wanted for his own personal gain. You guys won't fking admit it, but you know it's true and all you can counter with are accusations that have been investigated and not proven valid to date.

Had this been President Obama, you'd be burning the White House down. You know it and I know it. We go thru 2-3 years of collusion accusations that don't prove out, and your boy turns around and does what Trump does, he colludes for his own personal gain, not unlike one of his crooked real estate deals. Sorry boys, the CFR is pretty clear.

Go read the whistleblower complaint.

CFR on Personal Gain

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/5/2635.702
 
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Talk about insanity - this is what’s happening - the Democrats are trying to impeach a President for exposing a crime and then elect the person that commitedg the crime to the highest office in the land
 
Talk about insanity - this is what’s happening - the Democrats are trying to impeach a President for exposing a crime and then elect the person that commitedg the crime to the highest office in the land

Yeah people wanna know (lol) as Trump dangled aid to Ukraine for dirt on his perceived 2020 opponent. Bribery & Personal Gain.

Now please read the constitution:

Article Two, Section Four of the United States Constitution provides that: "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High crimes and Misdemeanors."

Now please read the CFR:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/5/2635.702
 
Then why wasn’t Biden removed ?
And by the way , what high crime , treason or bribe has Trump been convicted of ? Russian collusion? Causing a recession? Being a racist? Those are accusations , not convictions . Yet if you could convict him for forgetting the peanut butter on a peanut butter and jelly sandwich you leftists would impeach him for that . Maybe we should impeach him for getting head under the table in the Oval Office and lying about it ?
 
Talk about insanity - this is what’s happening - the Democrats are trying to impeach a President for exposing a crime and then elect the person that commitedg the crime to the highest office in the land

Tell you what utatem. When it's proven that Biden, Hillary, or Obsma committed a crime, I will stand with you. But just because that asinine Rudolph Guilliani says it's so, doesn't mean it's so. Add Hannity, Ingraham, Carlson, etc.

There was no collusion by Trump in the 2016 election. Not proven. See, not that difficult to admit.

I believed he colluded in some shape or fashion, but there wasn't evidence to support that accusation.
 
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Okay Cems we’ve seen this show many times the last three years, you and Cd have been wrong over and over again. You must be tired of tasting crow.

Maybe this might help you. Below are excerpts from the whistle blower complaint about Trump.

Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call informed me that, after an initial exchange of pleasantries, the President used the remainder of the call to advance his personal interests. Namely, he sought to pressure the Ukrainian leader to take actions to help the President's 2020 reelection bid.

According to the White House officials who had direct knowledge of the call, the President pressured Mr. Zelensky to, inter alia:

- initiate or continue an investigation into the activities of former Vice President Joseph Biden and his son, Hunter Biden;

- assist in purportedly uncovering that allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 US presidential election originated in Ukraine, with a specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and examined by the U.S. cyber security firm Crowdstrike, which initially reported that Russian hackers had penetrated the networks in 2016; and

- meet or Speak with two people the President named explicitly as his personal envoys on these matters, Mr. Giuliani and Attorney General Barr, to whom the President referred multiple times in tandem.
 
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Maybe this might help you. Below are excerpts from the whistle blower complaint about Trump.

Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call informed me that, after an initial exchange of pleasantries, the President used the remainder of the call to advance his personal interests. Namely, he sought to pressure the Ukrainian leader to take actions to help the President's 2020 reelection bid.

According to the White House officials who had direct knowledge of the call, the President pressured Mr. Zelensky to, inter alia:

- initiate or continue an investigation into the activities of former Vice President Joseph Biden and his son, Hunter Biden;

- assist in purportedly uncovering that allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 US presidential election originated in Ukraine, with a specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and examined by the U.S. cyber security firm Crowdstrike, which initially reported that Russian hackers had penetrated the networks in 2016; and

- meet or Speak with two people the President named explicitly as his personal envoys on these matters, Mr. Giuliani and Attorney General Barr, to whom the President referred multiple times in tandem.
Boom goes the dynamite! Time to run a bigot out of Washington.
 
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Go ahead....throw another personal insult my way so the games can begin. Unless when you said "You are the typical Trump supporter if you know what I mean" is a reference to me being white trash." Please confirm thats what you meant so we can get this baby going.

Actually, I never referred to a Trump supporter as "white trash" instead as low IQ. There are a few Black supporters of Trump but I never called them "white trash" but instead low IQ. Is that who you are?
 
You obviously didn’t read the transcript, go ahead please you’re lacking crucial facts. Also this isn’t a true whistle blower, he’s going on second hand information. The individual works for the CIA, used to work for Brennon, that should be a disqualification right there.


These illiterate, emotional girls never learn. A lethal combination of ignorance and emotional instability.
 
" A lethal combination of ignorance and emotional instability." Remind us of anyone we know?
 
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Why don't you address the contents of the whistle blower's report? It ain't good for Trump.
For the last time, it is 2nd hand hearsay. An opinion piece of what the WB thinks, means nothing.
 
Actually, I never referred to a Trump supporter as "white trash" instead as low IQ. There are a few Black supporters of Trump but I never called them "white trash" but instead low IQ. Is that who you are?
Lets do this so it doesnt get ugly. I dont care if you describe a statement I make as foolish, stupid or caca. I do have problems when I am called names personally which results in me hitting back by any means necessary. I re-read your original post and can see how you may have thought you were saying my statement was foolish rather than describing me with a personal insult so I apologize for overreacting with the way I did. Just remember, with the exception of one poster, I am never the one to throw the first punch when it comes to personal attacks.
 
Lets do this so it doesnt get ugly. I dont care if you describe a statement I make as foolish, stupid or caca. I do have problems when I am called names personally which results in me hitting back by any means necessary. I re-read your original post and can see how you may have thought you were saying my statement was foolish rather than describing me with a personal insult so I apologize for overreacting with the way I did. Just remember, with the exception of one poster, I am never the one to throw the first punch when it comes to personal attacks.
I'm speechless. I rarely call a poster names only their words. Thank you for responding in a bipartisan way. Couldn't resist saying that in this intense political environment. For tonight you and I will not debate any issues. Deal?
 
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