GOP fracturing into two parties
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Fantasy land from Radical Raoul. So what? He forgets the Democratic Party already split between his Radical Progressive Leftists and Liberals.
Racist Raoul is correct. President Trump is considering a party called the Patriot Party. I don't think anyone knows whether this will come to fruition.
That's not what the tweet is about. Its about regular conservatives starting their own party to split from the racist, Trump cultists.
Well I know he is talking about a party called the Patriot Party. I don't what or give a crap what a racist is thinking about.
That would near guarantee a Dem in the White House every election. The Republican and Patriots would split their 74 million votes, allowing Dems a clear path to victory with their 81 million voters.
That what Trump loyalists want?
Yeah....but I am not sure it is really a split as much as I think the extreme alt right has taken the party over. It was easily taken over because the party is full of weak minded people void of a moral compass. This party thrives on things like greed and money and power. Yet, they talk about values. Which really to me is a bit hilarious to be honest.
These are people driven by the fear of the browning of America. Fear that they see things changing with new technology and better ways to do things than when they profited off the backs of others. These people so afraid and it is the fear that drives them everyday.
They will even rubber stamp a literal attack on America. The leader of the party stood by and did nothing after a domestic attack happened right at our capital. If there is any republican that stands with this, I just will never respect that. Sorry, just how I was raised. You can give me all the whataboutisms and false equivalences you desire.....because at the end of the day, you are okay with this. Nothing equates to deaths while attacking our government. NOTHING! Don't talk to me about some dude looting like that is equivalent. It isn't and never will be and if there was someone out there looting I say screw him too. I don't cowtow to anyone. I am my own person. No party or group owns me.
What the right needs to do is clean house and that starts with Donald Trump. You are following a POS nd you are mad at everyone who is telling you what is obvious. Has been obvious for years and years.....but you don't care because he speaks to your fears.
These are people driven by the fear of the browning of America. Fear that they see things changing with new technology and better ways to do things than when they profited off the backs of others. These people so afraid and it is the fear that drives them everyday.
They will even rubber stamp a literal attack on America. The leader of the party stood by and did nothing after a domestic attack happened right at our capital. If there is any republican that stands with this, I just will never respect that. Sorry, just how I was raised. You can give me all the whataboutisms and false equivalences you desire.....because at the end of the day, you are okay with this. Nothing equates to deaths while attacking our government. NOTHING! Don't talk to me about some dude looting like that is equivalent. It isn't and never will be and if there was someone out there looting I say screw him too. I don't cowtow to anyone. I am my own person. No party or group owns me.
What the right needs to do is clean house and that starts with Donald Trump. You are following a POS nd you are mad at everyone who is telling you what is obvious. Has been obvious for years and years.....but you don't care because he speaks to your fears.
It would also guarantee a sizeable Dem dominated Congress and over time, an all Dem nominated SCOTUS.
If Trump pulls this off, I will forgive him for all else and personally start a campaign to nominate him for a fifth space on Mount Rushmore.
I can't see it gaining any more traction than this initial talk. Remember Ross Perot? I am sure he is being reminded of how that turned out. This Impeachment attempt will fail resulting in a Trump Presidential run in 2024. I think this time his advisors will have had time to figure a way to neutralize the effect that social media had on the 2020 election. If not, he might lose again.
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I don’t see a formal split happening either. And as a Dem, I wouldn’t like to see it. I like the two party system and would hate to see a multi party situation so common in Europe and South America.
That said, I don’t believe Trump will run again. Why?
* although he won’t be convicted today, he has been seriously damaged by the trial. The legal work by the House managers was superb. If this was a regular criminal trial for incitement, a jury would convict Trump in 5 minutes.
* Moderate and traditional Reps are increasingly turning on DJT. Nikki Haley’s condemnation of him yesterday was stunning.
* New criminal indictments against Trump might be coming in Georgia and New York. These will further dent his reputation.
* His businesses are in trouble. Hotels are down worldwide. He is highly leveraged. He might have to sell assets to survive financially.
* Will his marriage survive? Will he remain healthy?
So where will Trump supporters turn if Trump isn’t the leader? Certainly there are many potential candidates who want to get the support backers, eg Cruz, Hawley, etc. But do any of them have his powerful charisma with his followers? I don’t see it.
Question for the next 2 years: where will Trumpism go without Trump?
Whaddaya think?
Every point you mentioned is a possibility however DJT is one of the most resilient people around.
He will continue to have a large base of support come 2024 regardless of other defections amongst his prior political party defenders.
Four years is a long time to mend fences. Four years is a long time for an incumbent party and it's President to screw up.
I obviously do not wish any of these things to happen but should there be an economic downturn to the extent of a recession or a new war pop up costing us American serviceman lives would be the types of occurrences that can cause an election party change.
Whether he gets divorced or his businesses suffer ,in my opinion, would be secondary in DJT's mind compared to a triumphant return to the Presidency. JMO
Well written post. Good points for intelligent discussion. I do think Trump is damaged goods. Not by policy but by allowing himself to get distracted by petty fueds with the media. He should have handled the press like Biden and only allowed one moderately opposing reporter to ask one question a week.
You are truly amazing to say Trump is "damaged goods" because of "petty feuds with the media". Are you for real? The media had nothing to do with Trump being impeached 2 times. The media did not force him to parade across the country claiming the election was stolen from him and in doing so incite an insurrection. The media didn't force him to say stupid shzt like "both sides have fine people" when referring to White Supremacists. I could go on and on but why when you will only blame others for Trump's behavior and not him.
Please do go on, you are so interesting. Are you on a Dos Equis commecial?
