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Norwegians say no to Trump

Less govt = more opportunity for leaders who add value to society. Oh yeah, I just remembered you add nothing to society and victimize yourself and every minority every chance you get.
 
I will say I have a good friend that lives in Calgary. He pays about 4% less a year in taxes than I do (if I consider my healthcare as part of a tax). You can have some of this stuff when 65% of your GDP isn’t spent on military.
Asked him about waiting for surgeries. He did say if it wasn’t something debilitating that there would be a waiting period. If it was something threatening or debilitating it’s immediate. They also have a mandatory 5 weeks of vacation there. Which I’m totally on board with. A week or two weeks is a joke. We all should get to live life some.


That being said I’m not in favor of ignoring our military but, we could spend about 30% less than we currently do. We would still be spending far more than every other country on Earth.
 
I think people who tout the benefits of other countries vs the USA should investigate relocating there. I am not saying I want people to leave, I am saying I want people to learn.

Lost of American expats in Mexico, Panama, and Costa Rica but not too many in Canada or Norway.

I hear this argument a lot but it doesn't really make sense to me. Rather than relocate to other countries, it makes a lot more sense to bring the best elements of other countries to improve our own country.
 
I hear this argument a lot but it doesn't really make sense to me. Rather than relocate to other countries, it makes a lot more sense to bring the best elements of other countries to improve our own country.

Actually, Norway & Finland adopted there education system that was proposed by an American. It was adopted in those countries in the 60’s. It was considered crazy here. Now they’re both in the top 5 of best educated countries in the world. Education is the way of staying on top.

I really believe we need to stop the world police tactics. It’s funny Trump ran on that during his campaign. Obama did to an extent as well. They get in office, the exact opposite happens.
 
I am half swedish and my grandfather was paying 70% in taxes.
helps when you dont have a large portion of the population leaching off the govt.
I wonder how many illegals they have?

also freezing cold and dark all hours of the day winters.....no thanks
 
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Actually, Norway & Finland adopted there education system that was proposed by an American. It was adopted in those countries in the 60’s. It was considered crazy here. Now they’re both in the top 5 of best educated countries in the world. Education is the way of staying on top.

I really believe we need to stop the world police tactics. It’s funny Trump ran on that during his campaign. Obama did to an extent as well. They get in office, the exact opposite happens.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if Trump doesn't start a major war during his time in office. He did run on a non-interventionist platform but with his poll numbers in the tank, I wouldn't put it past him to get involved in Iran or North Korea since interventionism generally galvanizes public sentiment behind the President. He has already dropped a MOAB in Afghanistan for no reason as well as bombed a Syrian airfield, so he is clearly has no problem in getting involved in conflicts.
 

As usual you have your facts wrong. Fake news. He never called Norway a shithole. In fact he said we should have more Norwegians coming over to this country.

What he actually said is that countries like Haiti, El Salvador and Nigeria are shitholes. Which they are. Not the people, but the governments. Corrupt governments keep the people in those countries very poor.
 
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I'll be pleasantly surprised if Trump doesn't start a major war during his time in office. He did run on a non-interventionist platform but with his poll numbers in the tank, I wouldn't put it past him to get involved in Iran or North Korea since interventionism generally galvanizes public sentiment behind the President. He has already dropped a MOAB in Afghanistan for no reason as well as bombed a Syrian airfield, so he is clearly has no problem in getting involved in conflicts.

I’m not going to lie. The MOAB was pretty awesome. Overkill? Perhaps.
 
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As usual you have your facts wrong. Fake news. He never called Norway a shithole. In fact he said we should have more Norwegians coming over to this country.

What he actually said is that countries like Haiti, El Salvador and Nigeria are shitholes. Which they are. Not the people, but the governments. Corrupt governments keep the people in those countries very poor.

Tiv, you’re missing the point. Why would Norweigians come here? If you have some of the benefits they have, they look at it as a better way of life. They have a higher life expectancy, one of the lowest suicide rates in the world. If they had warm weather, a nice beach and, bourbon we would be beating down the doors to get there.
 
As usual you have your facts wrong. Fake news. He never called Norway a shithole. In fact he said we should have more Norwegians coming over to this country.

What he actually said is that countries like Haiti, El Salvador and Nigeria are shitholes. Which they are. Not the people, but the governments. Corrupt governments keep the people in those countries very poor.

If he had his facts straight, he would've known that African immigrants are more educated than Americans, and as such, would be more desirable as immigrants, especially since Trump is in favor of a merit based system.
 
I'll be pleasantly surprised if Trump doesn't start a major war during his time in office. He did run on a non-interventionist platform but with his poll numbers in the tank, I wouldn't put it past him to get involved in Iran or North Korea since interventionism generally galvanizes public sentiment behind the President. He has already dropped a MOAB in Afghanistan for no reason as well as bombed a Syrian airfield, so he is clearly has no problem in getting involved in conflicts.

Trump is not gonna start any war with any country. He dropped a MOAB in Afghanistan to kill Taliban and ISIS terrorists. And he bombed a Syrian airfield only after Al - Assad had used chemical weapons against his own people. He was right in both cases.
As much as you may hate him, Trump is a tough guy who's gonna protect the American people. His predecessor was a pussy, as he let a number of countries take advantage of the U.S.
 
If he had his facts straight, he would've known that African immigrants are more educated than Americans, and as such, would be more desirable as immigrants, especially since Trump is in favor of a merit based system.

Which African country has a better educational system than the U.S.? Please tell me. There is tremendous poverty in that continent.
 
Most of Europe doesn't spend much money on military expenses because they don't have to because we protect them. So maybe if we quit protecting them we could spend our money on other things needed at home. You really want to see Europe go into full panic mode pull out of NATO and pull our troops out of Europe. Their utopia is at our expense. Yet they criticize us constantly.
 
Which African country has a better educational system than the U.S.? Please tell me. There is tremendous poverty in that continent.

I'm not referring to the system of education. A greater percentage of Subsaharan Africans have Bachelors and Masters degrees than the percentage of Americans who hold the same level of degrees (41% vs 32%). Ironically, a greater percentage of Sub-Saharan Africans have degrees than do Norweigians (41% vs 38%). So if Trump is interested in merit based immigration, he should be looking to bring more, not less, Africans to the United States.

http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-global-african-immigrants-explainer-20180112-story.html
 
Trump is not gonna start any war with any country. He dropped a MOAB in Afghanistan to kill Taliban and ISIS terrorists. And he bombed a Syrian airfield only after Al - Assad had used chemical weapons against his own people. He was right in both cases.
As much as you may hate him, Trump is a tough guy who's gonna protect the American people. His predecessor was a pussy, as he let a number of countries take advantage of the U.S.

I didn't say either were wrong. But rather than these isolated actions, he would be better off coming up with a more comprehensive strategy (or in his case, get those who have a clue about foreign affairs and military strategy to do it).
 
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I'm not referring to the system of education. A greater percentage of Subsaharan Africans have Bachelors and Masters degrees than the percentage of Americans who hold the same level of degrees (41% vs 32%). Ironically, a greater percentage of Sub-Saharan Africans have degrees than do Norweigians (41% vs 38%). So if Trump is interested in merit based immigration, he should be looking to bring more, not less, Africans to the United States.

http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-global-african-immigrants-explainer-20180112-story.html
You're right but he will not bring more folks from Africa to America. And it has nothing to do with Trump not knowing these statistics.
 
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Most of Europe doesn't spend much money on military expenses because they don't have to because we protect them. So maybe if we quit protecting them we could spend our money on other things needed at home. You really want to see Europe go into full panic mode pull out of NATO and pull our troops out of Europe. Their utopia is at our expense. Yet they criticize us constantly.
You won the thread!
 
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I hear this argument a lot but it doesn't really make sense to me. Rather than relocate to other countries, it makes a lot more sense to bring the best elements of other countries to improve our own country.
Yeah try and see if they let anyone immigrate! Zero chance! The US is suppose to take on the worlds problems and pay for them!!
 
I didn't say either were wrong. But rather than these isolated actions, he would be better off coming up with a more comprehensive strategy (or in his case, get those who have a clue about foreign affairs and military strategy to do it).
Soapbox lecture series by Raoul is available for anyone who wants to strain themselves and see how many times one can roll their eyes within a paragraph!
 
I didn't say either were wrong. But rather than these isolated actions, he would be better off coming up with a more comprehensive strategy (or in his case, get those who have a clue about foreign affairs and military strategy to do it).

Appeasement and diplomacy hasn't worked with these countries. Clinton, Bush and Obama have tried it and it simply didn't work. The only think some of these countries understand is force. So Trump has tried a more aggressive approach and it has worked.
But it should be pointed out that with China he has tried a lot more diplomacy and the Chinese are cooperating with us more than ever, especially with respect to North Korea.
I'm not referring to the system of education. A greater percentage of Subsaharan Africans have Bachelors and Masters degrees than the percentage of Americans who hold the same level of degrees (41% vs 32%). Ironically, a greater percentage of Sub-Saharan Africans have degrees than do Norweigians (41% vs 38%). So if Trump is interested in merit based immigration, he should be looking to bring more, not less, Africans to the United States.

http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-global-african-immigrants-explainer-20180112-story.html

They come primarily from five countries: Nigeria, Ghana, Kenya, Ethiopia and South Africa. If they are well educated I say let them come, because they will contribute a lot to our economy.
 
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I'm not referring to the system of education. A greater percentage of Subsaharan Africans have Bachelors and Masters degrees than the percentage of Americans who hold the same level of degrees (41% vs 32%). Ironically, a greater percentage of Sub-Saharan Africans have degrees than do Norweigians (41% vs 38%). So if Trump is interested in merit based immigration, he should be looking to bring more, not less, Africans to the United States.

http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-global-african-immigrants-explainer-20180112-story.html
If that’s the case why are they all shitholes?
 
I'm not referring to the system of education. A greater percentage of Subsaharan Africans have Bachelors and Masters degrees than the percentage of Americans who hold the same level of degrees (41% vs 32%). Ironically, a greater percentage of Sub-Saharan Africans have degrees than do Norweigians (41% vs 38%). So if Trump is interested in merit based immigration, he should be looking to bring more, not less, Africans to the United States.

http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-global-african-immigrants-explainer-20180112-story.html
This is expedted. What % of illegals have degrees? What % of those illegals with degrees did the American taxpayer foot the bill for. It’s easier for illegals to get $$ for education in the US than Americans, so sad.
 
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This is expedted. What % of illegals have degrees? What % of those illegals with degrees did the American taxpayer foot the bill for. It’s easier for illegals to get $$ for education in the US than Americans, so sad.
What % of illegals double and triple up on welfare?? It’s easier for an illegal to get welfare then an actual American get benefits!! The very people who built this country suffer so the Democrats could import votes!
 
This is expedted. What % of illegals have degrees? What % of those illegals with degrees did the American taxpayer foot the bill for. It’s easier for illegals to get $$ for education in the US than Americans, so sad.

We're talking about legal African immigrants, not illegals.
 
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As usual you have your facts wrong. Fake news. He never called Norway a shithole. In fact he said we should have more Norwegians coming over to this country.

What he actually said is that countries like Haiti, El Salvador and Nigeria are shitholes. Which they are. Not the people, but the governments. Corrupt governments keep the people in those countries very poor.
LOL. No kidding. Man lands on moon. It was a clearly racial reference to his deplorable base. Norway has little if any interest in migration to US given the obvious benefits in the Norway way.
 
I think people who tout the benefits of other countries vs the USA should investigate relocating there. I am not saying I want people to leave, I am saying I want people to learn.

Lost of American expats in Mexico, Panama, and Costa Rica but not too many in Canada or Norway.
Weather driven. Medical benefits better than US in Costa Rica given national policy.
 
Tiv, you’re missing the point. Why would Norweigians come here? If you have some of the benefits they have, they look at it as a better way of life. They have a higher life expectancy, one of the lowest suicide rates in the world. If they had warm weather, a nice beach and, bourbon we would be beating down the doors to get there.

These people take moral responsibility for their citizens. I respect that. They don't just dump them in the streets when they are homeless with no health insurance and sick.
 
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These people take moral responsibility for their citizens. I respect that. They don't just dump them in the streets when they are homeless with no health insurance and sick.

They also have a very responsible population with strong family core values. The citizens respect work ethic and their government.
 
LOL. No kidding. Man lands on moon. It was a clearly racial reference to his deplorable base. Norway has little if any interest in migration to US given the obvious benefits in the Norway way.

Norway has a small population and is a socialist state. In other words, they have cradle to grave entitlements. That would never work in a country as big as ours.

Nor do most Americans want it. Otherwise Bernie Sanders would have won the election. Sanders is a hard core Socialist.

Look how well Socialism is working in Venezuela and Cuba.
 
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