Originally posted by NCTopgoon:
Azar, anything done specifically benefit any ethnic group is wrong. Are things done to specifically benefit whites wrong? Of course!
I'm not in defense mode any more than you are. I just think justice should be blind. Skin color should never be a factor in anything. Of course, this is only a dream. There is so much racial prejudice, both black and white, that it will never go away, at least in my lifetime.
A stat to consider..... 96% of blacks voted for the black candidate (Obama). Only 57 of whites voted for the white candidate. Would you try to tell me that color was not a factor in the black vote? Of course it was.
Racial prejudice has been with us for over 200 years and it isn't going away soon, but I've seen it getting better.
Ok, a few points here since you didn't really answer my questions directly, I'll try this again. Fyi, things have always been done to benefits white folks and they are still being done. So lets address your republican rhetoric first. You refer to Obama getting 96% of the black vote, we lets put this in perspective:
Carter 97%
Bill Clinton 84% & 83% respectively
John Kerry 93%
Al Gore 95%
Why didn't black folks vote for Alan Keyes, Al Sharpton, or Herman Cain? They're all black and by your logic should've received most of the black vote. Ok, so explain to me again according to these numbers how black people who've traditionally voted in majority percentages for democrats are being racist? You seemed to have breezed by my question on whether you truly believe white corporations and institutions are ready to fairly accepts or hire black people. You also neglected to say whether you've put any serious study into formulating your opinions on whether preferences are needed.
The problem with your logic, NCT, is its coming from the mindset of white supremacy cultural conditioning so you say these things such as benefits for any ethnic group is wrong as if all things are equal, have been equal, and if black were not enslaved, disenfranchised, and oppressed for over 300 years. In your privileged mine, you believe a few years of mandating that companies who were not hiring or refused to hire black people, hire them, and colleges who traditionally used discriminatory practices being forced to accept black students have made our circumstances all better and even, right? Not one special program, not one special grant, not a tax break, not even a fckn apology for the very people who made this country a wealthy superpower from the 100's of years of free labor. Imagine having a company or corp that had a free workforce for generations, what a dream, huh? You ever did a study to see what companies and institutions were created from this era of free labor? Probably not, I'd guess. Black folks deserve nothing yet you white folks have not one fckn problem with all the grants,the tax free status, free land, casinos, and all the sh*t given to Native Americans, now do you? No issue with them getting preferential treatment, right? Your talking head shows sure as hell never mentions it so I'd assume its a non issue. Noooo, they're too busy screaming about those 2% of black people being accepted into colleges or that 1% government contract being given to so called minorities via affirmative action, that's the problem. The program is not even geared specifically towards AA's, it groups all so called minorities and women. However, the focus constantly remains on how it gives black people some mythical advantage which no one has determined exactly what.
The ignorance and idiocy of racism shows the minute you apply just a little fact and truth. You haven't the slightest clue about the facts of the issue in which you speak, the only thing driving your opinion at this point is a racist ideology given to you by racist media propaganda known as Fox News and the like. I notice that everyone keep saying how racism isn't going away as if its some supernatural, omnipotent force beyond our control which is more racist propaganda, copout bullsh*t relieving white folks of any social or moral responsibility to stop being racist. The reason its not going anywhere is because white folks don't want to give it up. It's the foundation of control and white privilege, and that's the way you choose to keep it. You don't want to share power, control, or wealth with Black people and that's why it's never going away. Let's not keep throwing that statement out there without speaking about why it's not going away. It's was created and therefore, can be destroyed. It did not always exist! I think holistically and analytically from foundation of Ma'at (Truth, Justice, and Righteousness) so bullsh*t rhetoric does not fly with me. If you're not going to speak honestly, I going to call BS every time....Btw, white folks created racism longer than 200 years ago, actually closer to 400.
This post was edited on 5/2 2:10 PM by Azar