I've defended Trump when I think he is a victim of hypocrisy. Am I naive enough to think he is above reproach, absolutely not. No different than any other president in my 58 years, including Biden. I do want Joe to be held to the same standards that Trump was held to when it comes to lying and the appearance of corruption on Joe and his family's part. It has a bad smell when both your son and brother get huge contracts in areas that you have influence over, when neither one had any experience in the fields in which they were given those obscenely large contracts. Some on here refuse to see it but you must have seen at least some of the many lies that Joe has told over the years. Have we started the lie tracker for him yet?