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Texas Abortion Law Violates Conservative Principles

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The Texas "Heart Beat" bill that the Supreme Court declined to block last week is almost as restrictive as the Texas law that the courts overturned nearly a half a century ago in Roe vs Wade. The fact that it never the less took effect is a remarkable victory for the anti abortion cause, made possible by a innovative enforcement mechanism that relies on private litigation.
That victory, however, required embracing tactics that conservatives have long condemned. Senate Bill 8 invites lawsuits by financially well off plaintiffs who need not claim any personal injury, rigs the rules in their favor, establishes vague liability theories that threaten freedom of speech and offers a model for attacking other rights that the supreme court has said are protected by the constitution.
The Texas Law at issue is Roe prohibited abortion except when it was necessary to save the mother's life. SB 8 bans abortion after fetal cardiac activity can be detected, which happens six weeks into pregnancy, long before "viability" and before many women even realize they are expecting.
The organizations that challenge the law estimated that it would affect "at least 85% of Texas abortion patients." The only exception would be for a "medical emergency," meaning the ban applies to cases involving rape, incest, or predictably lethal fetal defects.
SB 8 allows "any person" to sue someone who performs an prohibited abortion, "aids and abets" it or "intends" to do so. While it exempts women who seek abortions from liability, potential defendants include a wide range of ancillary actors accused of facilitating the procedure.
"Aiding and abetting " abortions explicitly includes helping to pay for it and could encompass other sorts of assistance, such as driving a woman to a clinic, or watching her kids while she is there. And although SB 8 says aiding and abetting does not include speech or conduct protected by The First Amendment, its authorization of law suits based on what a defendant "intends" to do, even when he doesnt actually do it, makes that illusory in practice.
Anyone who provides information on how to obtain a post-heart beat abortion, for example, can be sued based on the allegation that they intended to facilitate the procedure. Their First Amendment defense would come into play only after they are forced to invest time and money in responding to that claim.
SB 8 makes that threat especially potent because it bars prevailing defendants from recovering their legal costs. Prevailing plaintiffs, meanwhile, are promised compensation for their expenses, along with "statutory damages", of at least $10,000 per abortion.
The law also limits the defenses available to the targets of the lawsuits it authorizes. A defendant cannot escape liability, for example, by citing a court decision deeming SB 8 unconstitutional if that ruling was subsequently overturned, even if that happened after the conduct cited by the plaintiff.
Cato institute Senior fellow Walter Olson, author of "The Litigation Explosion", and "The Rule Of Lawyers", noted that "legal conservatives used to be the sharpest critics" of methods for "turbo charging litigation", such as "the private attorney general idea, "one- way fee shifting and overbroad defendant designation", while "many legal progressives scoffed at these complaints. "The lasting lesson", Olson said is that there is no weapon introduced into legal process that will be used by only one team."
Just as conservatives have adopted litigation tactics they once viewed as a threat to the rule of law, progressives can easily adapt the SB 8 strategy for purposes conservatives will not like. Legislators could ban gun possession or "hate speech", either of which could be clearly unconstitutional under the Supreme Court's precedents, while trying to evade legal challenges by limiting enforcement to private lawsuits.
Abortion-Rights legislators could attack the anti-abortion movement by authorizing lawsuits against anyone who "intends" to facilitate the blocking of abortion clinic entrances, which arguably would include anyone who expresses the view that abortion is tantamount to murder.
Conservatives may regret sacrificing their avowed principles for short-term political gain.
Jacob Sullum, Sr editor at Reason Magazine and a columnist with the Creators Syndicate.
 
The Texas "Heart Beat" bill that the Supreme Court declined to block last week is almost as restrictive as the Texas law that the courts overturned nearly a half a century ago in Roe vs Wade. The fact that it never the less took effect is a remarkable victory for the anti abortion cause, made possible by a innovative enforcement mechanism that relies on private litigation.
That victory, however, required embracing tactics that conservatives have long condemned. Senate Bill 8 invites lawsuits by financially well off plaintiffs who need not claim any personal injury, rigs the rules in their favor, establishes vague liability theories that threaten freedom of speech and offers a model for attacking other rights that the supreme court has said are protected by the constitution.
The Texas Law at issue is Roe prohibited abortion except when it was necessary to save the mother's life. SB 8 bans abortion after fetal cardiac activity can be detected, which happens six weeks into pregnancy, long before "viability" and before many women even realize they are expecting.
The organizations that challenge the law estimated that it would affect "at least 85% of Texas abortion patients." The only exception would be for a "medical emergency," meaning the ban applies to cases involving rape, incest, or predictably lethal fetal defects.
SB 8 allows "any person" to sue someone who performs an prohibited abortion, "aids and abets" it or "intends" to do so. While it exempts women who seek abortions from liability, potential defendants include a wide range of ancillary actors accused of facilitating the procedure.
"Aiding and abetting " abortions explicitly includes helping to pay for it and could encompass other sorts of assistance, such as driving a woman to a clinic, or watching her kids while she is there. And although SB 8 says aiding and abetting does not include speech or conduct protected by The First Amendment, its authorization of law suits based on what a defendant "intends" to do, even when he doesnt actually do it, makes that illusory in practice.
Anyone who provides information on how to obtain a post-heart beat abortion, for example, can be sued based on the allegation that they intended to facilitate the procedure. Their First Amendment defense would come into play only after they are forced to invest time and money in responding to that claim.
SB 8 makes that threat especially potent because it bars prevailing defendants from recovering their legal costs. Prevailing plaintiffs, meanwhile, are promised compensation for their expenses, along with "statutory damages", of at least $10,000 per abortion.
The law also limits the defenses available to the targets of the lawsuits it authorizes. A defendant cannot escape liability, for example, by citing a court decision deeming SB 8 unconstitutional if that ruling was subsequently overturned, even if that happened after the conduct cited by the plaintiff.
Cato institute Senior fellow Walter Olson, author of "The Litigation Explosion", and "The Rule Of Lawyers", noted that "legal conservatives used to be the sharpest critics" of methods for "turbo charging litigation", such as "the private attorney general idea, "one- way fee shifting and overbroad defendant designation", while "many legal progressives scoffed at these complaints. "The lasting lesson", Olson said is that there is no weapon introduced into legal process that will be used by only one team."
Just as conservatives have adopted litigation tactics they once viewed as a threat to the rule of law, progressives can easily adapt the SB 8 strategy for purposes conservatives will not like. Legislators could ban gun possession or "hate speech", either of which could be clearly unconstitutional under the Supreme Court's precedents, while trying to evade legal challenges by limiting enforcement to private lawsuits.
Abortion-Rights legislators could attack the anti-abortion movement by authorizing lawsuits against anyone who "intends" to facilitate the blocking of abortion clinic entrances, which arguably would include anyone who expresses the view that abortion is tantamount to murder.
Conservatives may regret sacrificing their avowed principles for short-term political gain.
Jacob Sullum, Sr editor at Reason Magazine and a columnist with the Creators Syndicate.
Bla, Bla,Bla you and the rest of the party of pussies…
 
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The Texas "Heart Beat" bill that the Supreme Court declined to block last week is almost as restrictive as the Texas law that the courts overturned nearly a half a century ago in Roe vs Wade. The fact that it never the less took effect is a remarkable victory for the anti abortion cause, made possible by a innovative enforcement mechanism that relies on private litigation.
That victory, however, required embracing tactics that conservatives have long condemned. Senate Bill 8 invites lawsuits by financially well off plaintiffs who need not claim any personal injury, rigs the rules in their favor, establishes vague liability theories that threaten freedom of speech and offers a model for attacking other rights that the supreme court has said are protected by the constitution.
The Texas Law at issue is Roe prohibited abortion except when it was necessary to save the mother's life. SB 8 bans abortion after fetal cardiac activity can be detected, which happens six weeks into pregnancy, long before "viability" and before many women even realize they are expecting.
The organizations that challenge the law estimated that it would affect "at least 85% of Texas abortion patients." The only exception would be for a "medical emergency," meaning the ban applies to cases involving rape, incest, or predictably lethal fetal defects.
SB 8 allows "any person" to sue someone who performs an prohibited abortion, "aids and abets" it or "intends" to do so. While it exempts women who seek abortions from liability, potential defendants include a wide range of ancillary actors accused of facilitating the procedure.
"Aiding and abetting " abortions explicitly includes helping to pay for it and could encompass other sorts of assistance, such as driving a woman to a clinic, or watching her kids while she is there. And although SB 8 says aiding and abetting does not include speech or conduct protected by The First Amendment, its authorization of law suits based on what a defendant "intends" to do, even when he doesnt actually do it, makes that illusory in practice.
Anyone who provides information on how to obtain a post-heart beat abortion, for example, can be sued based on the allegation that they intended to facilitate the procedure. Their First Amendment defense would come into play only after they are forced to invest time and money in responding to that claim.
SB 8 makes that threat especially potent because it bars prevailing defendants from recovering their legal costs. Prevailing plaintiffs, meanwhile, are promised compensation for their expenses, along with "statutory damages", of at least $10,000 per abortion.
The law also limits the defenses available to the targets of the lawsuits it authorizes. A defendant cannot escape liability, for example, by citing a court decision deeming SB 8 unconstitutional if that ruling was subsequently overturned, even if that happened after the conduct cited by the plaintiff.
Cato institute Senior fellow Walter Olson, author of "The Litigation Explosion", and "The Rule Of Lawyers", noted that "legal conservatives used to be the sharpest critics" of methods for "turbo charging litigation", such as "the private attorney general idea, "one- way fee shifting and overbroad defendant designation", while "many legal progressives scoffed at these complaints. "The lasting lesson", Olson said is that there is no weapon introduced into legal process that will be used by only one team."
Just as conservatives have adopted litigation tactics they once viewed as a threat to the rule of law, progressives can easily adapt the SB 8 strategy for purposes conservatives will not like. Legislators could ban gun possession or "hate speech", either of which could be clearly unconstitutional under the Supreme Court's precedents, while trying to evade legal challenges by limiting enforcement to private lawsuits.
Abortion-Rights legislators could attack the anti-abortion movement by authorizing lawsuits against anyone who "intends" to facilitate the blocking of abortion clinic entrances, which arguably would include anyone who expresses the view that abortion is tantamount to murder.
Conservatives may regret sacrificing their avowed principles for short-term political gain.
Jacob Sullum, Sr editor at Reason Magazine and a columnist with the Creators Syndicate.
How did they miss your abortion?
 
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The Texas "Heart Beat" bill that the Supreme Court declined to block last week is almost as restrictive as the Texas law that the courts overturned nearly a half a century ago in Roe vs Wade. The fact that it never the less took effect is a remarkable victory for the anti abortion cause, made possible by a innovative enforcement mechanism that relies on private litigation.
That victory, however, required embracing tactics that conservatives have long condemned. Senate Bill 8 invites lawsuits by financially well off plaintiffs who need not claim any personal injury, rigs the rules in their favor, establishes vague liability theories that threaten freedom of speech and offers a model for attacking other rights that the supreme court has said are protected by the constitution.
The Texas Law at issue is Roe prohibited abortion except when it was necessary to save the mother's life. SB 8 bans abortion after fetal cardiac activity can be detected, which happens six weeks into pregnancy, long before "viability" and before many women even realize they are expecting.
The organizations that challenge the law estimated that it would affect "at least 85% of Texas abortion patients." The only exception would be for a "medical emergency," meaning the ban applies to cases involving rape, incest, or predictably lethal fetal defects.
SB 8 allows "any person" to sue someone who performs an prohibited abortion, "aids and abets" it or "intends" to do so. While it exempts women who seek abortions from liability, potential defendants include a wide range of ancillary actors accused of facilitating the procedure.
"Aiding and abetting " abortions explicitly includes helping to pay for it and could encompass other sorts of assistance, such as driving a woman to a clinic, or watching her kids while she is there. And although SB 8 says aiding and abetting does not include speech or conduct protected by The First Amendment, its authorization of law suits based on what a defendant "intends" to do, even when he doesnt actually do it, makes that illusory in practice.
Anyone who provides information on how to obtain a post-heart beat abortion, for example, can be sued based on the allegation that they intended to facilitate the procedure. Their First Amendment defense would come into play only after they are forced to invest time and money in responding to that claim.
SB 8 makes that threat especially potent because it bars prevailing defendants from recovering their legal costs. Prevailing plaintiffs, meanwhile, are promised compensation for their expenses, along with "statutory damages", of at least $10,000 per abortion.
The law also limits the defenses available to the targets of the lawsuits it authorizes. A defendant cannot escape liability, for example, by citing a court decision deeming SB 8 unconstitutional if that ruling was subsequently overturned, even if that happened after the conduct cited by the plaintiff.
Cato institute Senior fellow Walter Olson, author of "The Litigation Explosion", and "The Rule Of Lawyers", noted that "legal conservatives used to be the sharpest critics" of methods for "turbo charging litigation", such as "the private attorney general idea, "one- way fee shifting and overbroad defendant designation", while "many legal progressives scoffed at these complaints. "The lasting lesson", Olson said is that there is no weapon introduced into legal process that will be used by only one team."
Just as conservatives have adopted litigation tactics they once viewed as a threat to the rule of law, progressives can easily adapt the SB 8 strategy for purposes conservatives will not like. Legislators could ban gun possession or "hate speech", either of which could be clearly unconstitutional under the Supreme Court's precedents, while trying to evade legal challenges by limiting enforcement to private lawsuits.
Abortion-Rights legislators could attack the anti-abortion movement by authorizing lawsuits against anyone who "intends" to facilitate the blocking of abortion clinic entrances, which arguably would include anyone who expresses the view that abortion is tantamount to murder.
Conservatives may regret sacrificing their avowed principles for short-term political gain.
Jacob Sullum, Sr editor at Reason Magazine and a columnist with the Creators Syndicate.

We're being lectured to about conservatism by a guy(maybe?) that believes that any dude with a swinging schwong should be able to put on pink lace panties, compete in girls sports and go into pre teen girls restrooms?
 
I find it kinda ironic that liberals find it okay to make citizens have to jump through hoops to buy a firearm and want to ban certain firearms altogether. A right afforded to us in the Constitution.

But yet when it comes to common sense restrictions on abortions, which was never a right, but rather a court case (Roe v Wade), they go nuts.

Hypocrisy knows no limits.
 
The Texas "Heart Beat" bill that the Supreme Court declined to block last week is almost as restrictive as the Texas law that the courts overturned nearly a half a century ago in Roe vs Wade. The fact that it never the less took effect is a remarkable victory for the anti abortion cause, made possible by a innovative enforcement mechanism that relies on private litigation.
That victory, however, required embracing tactics that conservatives have long condemned. Senate Bill 8 invites lawsuits by financially well off plaintiffs who need not claim any personal injury, rigs the rules in their favor, establishes vague liability theories that threaten freedom of speech and offers a model for attacking other rights that the supreme court has said are protected by the constitution.
The Texas Law at issue is Roe prohibited abortion except when it was necessary to save the mother's life. SB 8 bans abortion after fetal cardiac activity can be detected, which happens six weeks into pregnancy, long before "viability" and before many women even realize they are expecting.
The organizations that challenge the law estimated that it would affect "at least 85% of Texas abortion patients." The only exception would be for a "medical emergency," meaning the ban applies to cases involving rape, incest, or predictably lethal fetal defects.
SB 8 allows "any person" to sue someone who performs an prohibited abortion, "aids and abets" it or "intends" to do so. While it exempts women who seek abortions from liability, potential defendants include a wide range of ancillary actors accused of facilitating the procedure.
"Aiding and abetting " abortions explicitly includes helping to pay for it and could encompass other sorts of assistance, such as driving a woman to a clinic, or watching her kids while she is there. And although SB 8 says aiding and abetting does not include speech or conduct protected by The First Amendment, its authorization of law suits based on what a defendant "intends" to do, even when he doesnt actually do it, makes that illusory in practice.
Anyone who provides information on how to obtain a post-heart beat abortion, for example, can be sued based on the allegation that they intended to facilitate the procedure. Their First Amendment defense would come into play only after they are forced to invest time and money in responding to that claim.
SB 8 makes that threat especially potent because it bars prevailing defendants from recovering their legal costs. Prevailing plaintiffs, meanwhile, are promised compensation for their expenses, along with "statutory damages", of at least $10,000 per abortion.
The law also limits the defenses available to the targets of the lawsuits it authorizes. A defendant cannot escape liability, for example, by citing a court decision deeming SB 8 unconstitutional if that ruling was subsequently overturned, even if that happened after the conduct cited by the plaintiff.
Cato institute Senior fellow Walter Olson, author of "The Litigation Explosion", and "The Rule Of Lawyers", noted that "legal conservatives used to be the sharpest critics" of methods for "turbo charging litigation", such as "the private attorney general idea, "one- way fee shifting and overbroad defendant designation", while "many legal progressives scoffed at these complaints. "The lasting lesson", Olson said is that there is no weapon introduced into legal process that will be used by only one team."
Just as conservatives have adopted litigation tactics they once viewed as a threat to the rule of law, progressives can easily adapt the SB 8 strategy for purposes conservatives will not like. Legislators could ban gun possession or "hate speech", either of which could be clearly unconstitutional under the Supreme Court's precedents, while trying to evade legal challenges by limiting enforcement to private lawsuits.
Abortion-Rights legislators could attack the anti-abortion movement by authorizing lawsuits against anyone who "intends" to facilitate the blocking of abortion clinic entrances, which arguably would include anyone who expresses the view that abortion is tantamount to murder.
Conservatives may regret sacrificing their avowed principles for short-term political gain.
Jacob Sullum, Sr editor at Reason Magazine and a columnist with the Creators Syndicate.
Next time you copy and paste put it in quotes!
#DIDNT READ
# Canesports biggest anti SEMTIC Turd
’#may 1,000 fleas off a camels back be infested in your crotch!
#Pfffft
 
I find it kinda ironic that liberals find it okay to make citizens have to jump through hoops to buy a firearm and want to ban certain firearms altogether. A right afforded to us in the Constitution.

But yet when it comes to common sense restrictions on abortions, which was never a right, but rather a court case (Roe v Wade), they go nuts.

Hypocrisy knows no limits.


6 weeks??? Many if not most women don't even know their pregnant at 6 weeks.

 
I find it kinda ironic that liberals find it okay to make citizens have to jump through hoops to buy a firearm and want to ban certain firearms altogether. A right afforded to us in the Constitution.

But yet when it comes to common sense restrictions on abortions, which was never a right, but rather a court case (Roe v Wade), they go nuts.

Hypocrisy knows no limits.

Law even applies to those that have been raped???:oops:

To that the Governor of Texas says the state will "eliminate rape"??? Huh??? If true (which of course it's impossible) why didn't they eliminate it before??? LOL 🤪 🤪 🤪

Also if the state was serious about eliminating rape why is there a 5000+ backlog on rape tests in Texas?

>>>In 2019, 14,656 rapes were reported in Texas, according to the state's Department of Public Safety. About 2,200 people were arrested for rape that same year.

 
6 weeks??? Many if not most women don't even know their pregnant at 6 weeks.

Well heck!!!! Why don't we just force them to get tested for pregnancy every week!!!! Just like Biden wants to do with Covid-19 testing for the unvaxxed!!!
 
I find it kinda ironic that liberals find it okay to make citizens have to jump through hoops to buy a firearm and want to ban certain firearms altogether. A right afforded to us in the Constitution.

But yet when it comes to common sense restrictions on abortions, which was never a right, but rather a court case (Roe v Wade), they go nuts.

Hypocrisy knows no limits.
You want to follow the Constitution on gun laws yet not on a law that the Attorney General states is "clearly unconstitutional". Hypocrisy knows no limits!
 
The DOJ filed lawsuit. we'll see how that plays out.
Lots of luck. We have a SCOTUS now that decides cases on law through the lens of strict constructionism. The way it should be all the time. Good thing for this country that people of your ilk will not have control of that court again likely in our lifetimes given the younger judges appointed by Bush and Trump.
 
Law even applies to those that have been raped???:oops:

To that the Governor of Texas says the state will "eliminate rape"??? Huh??? If true (which of course it's impossible) why didn't they eliminate it before??? LOL 🤪 🤪 🤪

Also if the state was serious about eliminating rape why is there a 5000+ backlog on rape tests in Texas?

>>>In 2019, 14,656 rapes were reported in Texas, according to the state's Department of Public Safety. About 2,200 people were arrested for rape that same year.

There is something drastically wrong in America when the same political party that tries to take away:
Voting Rights
Civil Rights
Human Rights
Religious Rights
Social Rights
Constitutional Rights
encourages people to take up arms in the fear that "Government" is taking way our rights. HYPOCRISY IN ITS HIGHEST FORM
 
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There is something drastically wrong in America when the same political party that tries to take away:
Voting Rights
Civil Rights
Human Rights
Religious Rights
Social Rights
Constitutional Rights
encourages people to take up arms in the fear that "Government" is taking way our rights. HYPOCRISY IN ITS HIGHEST FORM
You're absolutely Right ! The Democrat Communist Party is a Cancer to this wonderful and glorious Republic.

-Voting rights : the highest honor a Citizen has. The reason we send ourselves and our children into War, to Protect our Country and the Government. Democrat's want non citizens to Vote( disband the Armed Forces !), Democrat's want to give illegal immigrants citizenship just to have their votes. Democrat's want you to trust them and let THEM collect your Vote, so they can " register it for you". LOL yha sure

-Civil Rights: Wow what a hanging curve ball ! Democrat's have NO moral to even bring this up. Even with all the crazy rationalizations and justifications, they are STILL the Party that was For Slavery. Democrat's Were against Desegregation in the 60-70's. and the Democrat Party has had and STILL HAS Racist KKK Representatives. Byrd anyone ? The STILL Gov Blackface (or was he the guy in the hood and sheets ? never sure) and the other Rep his buddy. Even NOW CRT is segregationist and it Defines the Modern Dem/Dim Party, and lets not forget BLM and ANTIFA who's openly racist to whites. Leave it to a Dim to believe you can be just a little preggers

-Human Rights: Please please please stop with the jokes ! Biden a Democrat President has open boarders, for whatever his reasoning, which has caused Death, empowered criminal cartels, increased drugs coming into the US along with associated Death, increased Sex Trafficking, flooded the country with covid from illegal boarder crossings, and all this With out mentioning Clinton-Obama-Hillary Nation building, and Biden abandoning American citizens as well as Afgan women (not even teenagers) to be bought and sold like cheap goods or just killed. Remember the 60's ? It was Dem's in hoods that killed them. Dem's are ALL talk, like a used car salesman

-Religious Rights: Now I know your kidding or on CrAcK. Go back to Covid's beginnings,,,,,,,, Dems States CLOSED CHURCHES, BLM and ANTIFA are Openly against Catholics/ Christians/ and Jews. Remember the Heb uprising in NYC LOL Dem's are Atheist's who's only Religion is The STATE (as long as they are the State). Seriously did you cut and past this list ? You didn't think this up right ? LOL

- Social Rights: really ? Really ? Dem's hunted republicans and Promoted violence and disturbance toward Republicans when Trump was President. That doesn't count for you ? LOL Democrats have BLOCKED FREDOM of SPEECH. DEMS Have American Citizens in Prison for Months now, AND THEY Have NOT BEEN CHARGED YET. Social Rights ? You haven't Changed from the 60's if EVER.

-Constitutional Rights: Now your just throwing 💩 on the wall to see if it sticks. YOU WANT TO EXPAND THE SUPREAM COURT. You ran a SHAM Impeachment WITHOUT a Presiding Supreme Court Judge and WITHOUT Allowing The Accused Representation. Democrats, if they have done ANYTHING with the Constitution it would be Whip your 💩 on it. Pelosi

I'd call it shameless and Hypocritical, but in Truth it's just Democrats being Democrats. That worthless post is a Great Example of it. Bet you feel gooooad though in your hybrid arg what am I saying,,,, your Tesla LOL
 
Hawaiian, we agree, the democrat parties has assaulted the rights of American citizens:

There is something drastically wrong in America when the same political party that tries to take away:
Voting Rights - a dead person voting steals the vote from a live registered voter.
Civil Rights - See monkey woman throwing eggs at Larry Elder, please see African Americans being refused service at restaurants in NYC by Comrade DiBlasio's orders.
Human Rights - the unborn, Coumo and Nursing homes, Americans in Afghanistan
Religious Rights - descrimination against christianity and its religious beliefs , Little Sisters of the Poor, Hobby Lobby, etc. Descrimination and hatred against Jews. Especially from small groups of Hawaiians.
Social Rights - Have not heard that term did Coumo or Pelosi make that one up . Or maybe this means the right for girls to not have to compete against guys in sports or have female only restrooms?
Constitutional Rights - 1st amendment, 2nd amendment, so many more, will post more about this later.
 
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The worst part about this is men making decisions for women and these "men" havent a clue as to the trials and tribulations go thru on women's reproductive health.
The worst part about this is that roughly 60 million babies have been killed since Roe vs Wade. I wonder how many of those may have come up with the cure to cancer, racial problems in America or even a great song or book. I guess we'll never know. Hey, as long as women get to choose, right?
 
The worst part about this is men making decisions for women and these "men" havent a clue as to the trials and tribulations go thru on women's reproductive health.
Please don't read up on reproduction, no one wants your clone running around. Go back in your hole leper head
 
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You're absolutely Right ! The Democrat Communist Party is a Cancer to this wonderful and glorious Republic.

-Voting rights : the highest honor a Citizen has. The reason we send ourselves and our children into War, to Protect our Country and the Government. Democrat's want non citizens to Vote( disband the Armed Forces !), Democrat's want to give illegal immigrants citizenship just to have their votes. Democrat's want you to trust them and let THEM collect your Vote, so they can " register it for you". LOL yha sure

-Civil Rights: Wow what a hanging curve ball ! Democrat's have NO moral to even bring this up. Even with all the crazy rationalizations and justifications, they are STILL the Party that was For Slavery. Democrat's Were against Desegregation in the 60-70's. and the Democrat Party has had and STILL HAS Racist KKK Representatives. Byrd anyone ? The STILL Gov Blackface (or was he the guy in the hood and sheets ? never sure) and the other Rep his buddy. Even NOW CRT is segregationist and it Defines the Modern Dem/Dim Party, and lets not forget BLM and ANTIFA who's openly racist to whites. Leave it to a Dim to believe you can be just a little preggers

-Human Rights: Please please please stop with the jokes ! Biden a Democrat President has open boarders, for whatever his reasoning, which has caused Death, empowered criminal cartels, increased drugs coming into the US along with associated Death, increased Sex Trafficking, flooded the country with covid from illegal boarder crossings, and all this With out mentioning Clinton-Obama-Hillary Nation building, and Biden abandoning American citizens as well as Afgan women (not even teenagers) to be bought and sold like cheap goods or just killed. Remember the 60's ? It was Dem's in hoods that killed them. Dem's are ALL talk, like a used car salesman

-Religious Rights: Now I know your kidding or on CrAcK. Go back to Covid's beginnings,,,,,,,, Dems States CLOSED CHURCHES, BLM and ANTIFA are Openly against Catholics/ Christians/ and Jews. Remember the Heb uprising in NYC LOL Dem's are Atheist's who's only Religion is The STATE (as long as they are the State). Seriously did you cut and past this list ? You didn't think this up right ? LOL

- Social Rights: really ? Really ? Dem's hunted republicans and Promoted violence and disturbance toward Republicans when Trump was President. That doesn't count for you ? LOL Democrats have BLOCKED FREDOM of SPEECH. DEMS Have American Citizens in Prison for Months now, AND THEY Have NOT BEEN CHARGED YET. Social Rights ? You haven't Changed from the 60's if EVER.

-Constitutional Rights: Now your just throwing 💩 on the wall to see if it sticks. YOU WANT TO EXPAND THE SUPREAM COURT. You ran a SHAM Impeachment WITHOUT a Presiding Supreme Court Judge and WITHOUT Allowing The Accused Representation. Democrats, if they have done ANYTHING with the Constitution it would be Whip your 💩 on it. Pelosi

I'd call it shameless and Hypocritical, but in Truth it's just Democrats being Democrats. That worthless post is a Great Example of it. Bet you feel gooooad though in your hybrid arg what am I saying,,,, your Tesla LOL
There is hope; Hawaiian is reading the posts on the board and appears to have learned what rights the democrat party is attempting to take away. Let's welcome him and all others to finally learning the truth!
 
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There is hope; Hawaiian is reading the posts on the board and appears to have learned what rights the democrat party is attempting to take away. Let's welcome him and all others to finally learning the truth!
Obviously you are deflecting. Its the repubs who want small govt so no one can look over their shoulders only because they honestly believe Americans have the right to do mas they please but Their hypocrisy is so thick because they dont want women to have the right to make choices. Its so THICK you can cut it with a circular saw.
 
Next time you copy and paste put it in quotes!
#DIDNT READ
# Canesports biggest anti SEMTIC Turd
’#may 1,000 fleas off a camels back be infested in your crotch!
#Pfffft
Only you would know there are a 1,000 fleas off a camels back. You couldnt handle that so you digressed to goats and sheep; easier reach I presume.
 
Only you would know there are a 1,000 fleas off a camels back. You couldnt handle that so you digressed to goats and sheep; easier reach I presume.
I have Zero idea how many fleas your camels and goats have.
So lets simply say
”MAY AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF FLEAS OFF A CAMEL’S BACK BE INFESTED IN YOUR CROTCH.”
I have laid off you recently,
BUCKLE UP!
 
I have Zero idea how many fleas your camels and goats have.
So lets simply say
”MAY AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF FLEAS OFF A CAMEL’S BACK BE INFESTED IN YOUR CROTCH.”
I have laid off you recently,
BUCKLE UP!
Im sure you know, from experience that with camels it forced you to BUCKLE UP. Afraid of heights?????
 
The repubs are flat out scared of the new Texas Abortion law. When the Supreme court allowed Texas' 6 week abortion law to stand, it was presented as a major victory for Anti-Abortion conservatives. After all, Republican state legislators in deep red states have long been passing increasingly restrictive abortion laws, only to see many later get struck down in the courts. Finally, one law gets thru (at least for now).
But if its the victory conservatives were hoping for, why arent high profile, broad based Republicans celebrating it??? Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell---never one to shy away from a political fight----had this to say about the Supreme Court's ruling: "I think it was a highly technical decision." Rona McDaniel, chairwoman of the Republican National committee, who over sees the platform for the party, was out within hours declaring that she would challenge the legality of POTUS Joe Biden's vaccine mandate, yet has been totally silent on the Texas abortion case---as well as the Biden Justice Department's decision to challenge the law. Even most of Texas' congressional delegation remained silent on the new abortion legislation.
What is going on??? When considering the political ramifications of the Texas Abortion Law, Ian Malcolm's famous line in Jurassic Park comes to mind, with a little social wars twist" Your(anti-abortion advocates) were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didnt stop to think if they should."
For decades, Republican law makers have been able to vote for and pass highly restrictive abortion laws without living thru the political consequences, because the laws were typically enjoined by the courts before they ever took effect . The politicians got to check the pro-life box important to a segment of their voters without their constituents ever living under those strict laws. This kept the political backlash to their votes at a minimum.
This month, the Supreme Court called these legislators' bluff by letting the Texas Abortion Law stand. Now the most restrictive abortion law in the country is under the political microscope and Republicans in Washington are being uncharacteristically quiet---at least in part because they sense that this law will do more to motivate the opposition than it will to rally the faithful.
Already, the Democrats cant stop talking about it. After a brutal August that had the Biden administration in one bad news item after another, the Supreme Court's decision on Texas was like rain breaking a long drought for democratic operatives. The issue allowed Democrats to unite their warring factions on the hill, moved the news cycle off wall to wall coverage of Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal, and raised money for Democratic candidates.
If larger historical trends hold, Republicans would be favored to win back the house in 2022, but the question now is whether Anti-Abortion advocates just handed a beleaguered WH the key to energizing their pro-abortion rights voters and potentially staving off a GOP landslide. By finding a legal loophole that allowed the Texas law to go into effect, did Republicans win the battle but lose the war????
In answering that question, we first shouldnt pay attention to abortion issue polls. Issue polling is deeply flawed. Issue polling is deeply flawed in that it often asks people to summarize their complex and contradictory views into answers like "agree" or "strongly agree". And unlike campaign polling----plagued by its own inadequacies-----the results are never verified by an actual election.
Moreover, abortion is uniquely over polled. Whether someone identifies as "Pro-life" or "Pro-Choice"----which are highly correlated with partisanship----isnt helpful when debating, for example, whether a woman should be required to have a ultra sound before aborting pregnancy. Asking respondents whether Roe should be overturned is only useful if the pollster is actually trying to determine whether voters think abortion restrictions should be decided by Federal courts or state Legislatures. "Do you believe that all abortions should be legal in all or most cases" gives us no information on the voter who believes that abortion at 8 months should be prohibited and at 6 months should be legal.
There is also the extreme likelihood polls conducted for anti abortion rights are done so in predominantly Anti abortion communities.
So the more relevant question is whether the abortion issue motivates voters in both political camps and which side is motivated more.
 
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