The Coronavirus was coming to the US no matter what...

[Andymiles1]

We live in a global economy, so the Coronavirus was coming to the US no matter what Trump did. But the crisis today was avoidable. For six weeks, Trump saw any criticism of his handling of the Coronavirus as a personal attack on himself. Trump downplayed it, wished it away, and did nothing meaningful to stop it.

He fired the nations pandemic response team, then went golfing, called it a hoax, then went golfing, had a "hunch" it wasn't all that deadly (only a flu), then went golfing, he ignored intelligence warning as far back as late Jan, then went golfing, he bragged 15 cases would soon be down to zero, and then, you guessed it, went golfing.

Trump is responsible for the skyrocketing death rate (today the US reported the most American deaths, since the start of the crisis). Trump has blood on his hands!

Trump is the 8th US president in my lifetime. I feel secure in saying he's the first president who doesn't care if you live or die, only if you'll vote for him or not!

 

[jyoho]

We live in a global economy, so the Coronavirus was coming to the US no matter what Trump did. But the crisis today was avoidable. For six weeks, Trump saw any criticism of his handling of the Coronavirus as a personal attack on himself. Trump downplayed it, wished it away, and did nothing meaningful to stop it.

He fired the nations pandemic response team, then went golfing, called it a hoax, then went golfing, had a "hunch" it wasn't all that deadly (only a flu), then went golfing, he ignored intelligence warning as far back as late Jan, then went golfing, he bragged 15 cases would soon be down to zero, and then, you guessed it, went golfing.

Trump is responsible for the skyrocketing death rate (today the US reported the most American deaths, since the start of the crisis). Trump has blood on his hands!

Trump is the 8th US president in my lifetime. I feel secure in saying he's the first president who doesn't care if you live or die, only if you'll vote for him or not!

you obviously do not pay attention to facts and listen to pundits. Dr Brix today said China impeded what was done. It wasn’t til January 30 that The WHO declared an emergency. There’s a lot more to rebut, but you have clearly only started this thread so you could
1. Turn it political and act like you know what you are talking about.
2. Troll others into the same hyperbole you are doing.

 

[BreakingCane]

We live in a global economy, so the Coronavirus was coming to the US no matter what Trump did. But the crisis today was avoidable. For six weeks, Trump saw any criticism of his handling of the Coronavirus as a personal attack on himself. Trump downplayed it, wished it away, and did nothing meaningful to stop it.

He fired the nations pandemic response team, then went golfing, called it a hoax, then went golfing, had a "hunch" it wasn't all that deadly (only a flu), then went golfing, he ignored intelligence warning as far back as late Jan, then went golfing, he bragged 15 cases would soon be down to zero, and then, you guessed it, went golfing.

Trump is responsible for the skyrocketing death rate (today the US reported the most American deaths, since the start of the crisis). Trump has blood on his hands!

Trump is the 8th US president in my lifetime. I feel secure in saying he's the first president who doesn't care if you live or die, only if you'll vote for him or not!

Another anti-Trump post in the war room @gferman ?

 

[married1]

We live in a global economy, so the Coronavirus was coming to the US no matter what Trump did. But the crisis today was avoidable. For six weeks, Trump saw any criticism of his handling of the Coronavirus as a personal attack on himself. Trump downplayed it, wished it away, and did nothing meaningful to stop it.

He fired the nations pandemic response team, then went golfing, called it a hoax, then went golfing, had a "hunch" it wasn't all that deadly (only a flu), then went golfing, he ignored intelligence warning as far back as late Jan, then went golfing, he bragged 15 cases would soon be down to zero, and then, you guessed it, went golfing.

Trump is responsible for the skyrocketing death rate (today the US reported the most American deaths, since the start of the crisis). Trump has blood on his hands!

Trump is the 8th US president in my lifetime. I feel secure in saying he's the first president who doesn't care if you live or die, only if you'll vote for him or not!

 

[married1]

Preach brother

 

[BreakingCane]

We live in a global economy, so the Coronavirus was coming to the US no matter what Trump did. But the crisis today was avoidable. For six weeks, Trump saw any criticism of his handling of the Coronavirus as a personal attack on himself. Trump downplayed it, wished it away, and did nothing meaningful to stop it.

He fired the nations pandemic response team, then went golfing, called it a hoax, then went golfing, had a "hunch" it wasn't all that deadly (only a flu), then went golfing, he ignored intelligence warning as far back as late Jan, then went golfing, he bragged 15 cases would soon be down to zero, and then, you guessed it, went golfing.

Trump is responsible for the skyrocketing death rate (today the US reported the most American deaths, since the start of the crisis). Trump has blood on his hands!

Trump is the 8th US president in my lifetime. I feel secure in saying he's the first president who doesn't care if you live or die, only if you'll vote for him or not!

First, math. Death rate is not the same as the # of deaths.

2nd, most of the climbing rates are in NYC, and their Mayor, De Blasio, told NYers to continue riding the subway and going out as the virus was spreading in the US.

 

[sabrose]

Its like a cuckoo clock at the chime another lib spouts gibberish. The left was on Trump's case for stopping flights from China and then Europe. Much of the info about this virus has been acquired over time. There are times for politics and there are times to band together .This is serious stuff right now and politics should be set aside for once . Wash your hands ,social distance use prudence and compassion for your fellow countrymen and we all will get through this.

 

[CanesWill81]

How people still defends this incompetent fool in office is beyond me. Please help me understand how you look past the dumb crap that comes out his mouth. The lack of intelligence, lack of leaderships, the narcissistic behavior and again the shit he actually says during press conferences and then says he didn't say it when there's video and audio evidence. SMH. How ya'll look pass that? Pleas explain... Make me understand.

 

[jyoho]

How people still defends this incompetent fool in office is beyond me. Please help me understand how you look past the dumb crap that comes out his mouth. The lack of intelligence, lack of leaderships, the narcissistic behavior and again the shit he actually says during press conferences and then says he didn't say it when there's video and audio evidence. SMH. How ya'll look pass that? Pleas explain... Make me understand.

How do you explain that he stopped travel from China and Europe long before any other country stopped travel. Rather, Europe, China, Canada, and even most politicians called him racist for doing it. Fauci and Brix both said today we acted ‘ very, very early’. People need to take off their colored glasses and look objectively. You wouldn’t be saying the same things if it happened to be Obama saying and doing the same things. Wait? Obama waited until 1000 people died and six months before declaring an emergency w H1N1. I doubt you were out there talking the same shit. Nobody was giving him slack for delay. There are a multitude of variables- and the fact is it’s extremists who make the dialogue harder for most Americans who just want to work together and get over this.

 

[CanesWill81]

I'm not going to argue on here with a fox-news watcher. Explain to me why did he down play the seriousness of the virus? Why did he brag about firing the disease pandemic team that was already in place that would of got in front of this thing due to their experience with the H1N1? He knew about this virus since Jan and said only 15 people is affected and would go down to 1. He said that. I will not give him credit for shutting down travel cause he should of done it sooner. Obama and his team put Trump transition team through an exercise on how to deal with an epidemic crisis and they didn't take a serious and now Americans are paying with their lives. And you're still not explaining how you defend the lies and crap that comes out his mouth. There's audio and video evidence, geez.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-inauguration-warning-scenario-pandemic-132797

 

[CanesWill81]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-inauguration-warning-scenario-pandemic-132797

 

[ellu]

First, math. Death rate is not the same as the # of deaths.

2nd, most of the climbing rates are in NYC, and their Mayor, De Blasio, told NYers to continue riding the subway and going out as the virus was spreading in the US.

New York has been a model for mitigation. But they are also a model for what happens when there is denial. Had they instituted social distancing immediately there would be a lot different situation.

Florida will soon experience the measure of that hubris. NY failed their citizens; remedially they have been excellent but places not mandating shelter in place type restrictions are repeating the failure.

 

[canes2win]

Whoa. Calm down everyone. We are all in this together. Maybe we can actually focus on a problem together. Not the Russians, not Ukraine. Not an impeachment. You know?


Think about it. It's simple.

Trumps gonna win in November.

Just picture the wide rights, dumb ass liberal ****s

 

[Raoul2]

We live in a global economy, so the Coronavirus was coming to the US no matter what Trump did. But the crisis today was avoidable. For six weeks, Trump saw any criticism of his handling of the Coronavirus as a personal attack on himself. Trump downplayed it, wished it away, and did nothing meaningful to stop it.

He fired the nations pandemic response team, then went golfing, called it a hoax, then went golfing, had a "hunch" it wasn't all that deadly (only a flu), then went golfing, he ignored intelligence warning as far back as late Jan, then went golfing, he bragged 15 cases would soon be down to zero, and then, you guessed it, went golfing.

Trump is responsible for the skyrocketing death rate (today the US reported the most American deaths, since the start of the crisis). Trump has blood on his hands!

Trump is the 8th US president in my lifetime. I feel secure in saying he's the first president who doesn't care if you live or die, only if you'll vote for him or not!

100% spot on.

 

[CanesWill81]

I respect those on here that are Republicans but realize and admit they have a fool and Moron hijacked their Political Party. There's no way you have any type of sense or smarts and support this Idiot as your leader. Like seriously if you're a father would you let this asshole date your daughter regardless of his wealth?

 

[Andymiles1]

How do you explain that he stopped travel from China and Europe long before any other country stopped travel. Rather, Europe, China, Canada, and even most politicians called him racist for doing it. Fauci and Brix both said today we acted ‘ very, very early’. People need to take off their colored glasses and look objectively. You wouldn’t be saying the same things if it happened to be Obama saying and doing the same things. Wait? Obama waited until 1000 people died and six months before declaring an emergency w H1N1. I doubt you were out there talking the same shit. Nobody was giving him slack for delay. There are a multitude of variables- and the fact is it’s extremists who make the dialogue harder for most Americans who just want to work together and get over this.

If Trump did and continues to do such a great job, then why does the US have the most cases than any other country in the world?

 

[Andymiles1]

you obviously do not pay attention to facts and listen to pundits. Dr Brix today said China impeded what was done. It wasn’t til January 30 that The WHO declared an emergency. There’s a lot more to rebut, but you have clearly only started this thread so you could
1. Turn it political and act like you know what you are talking about.
2. Troll others into the same hyperbole you are doing.

I actually do pay attention to facts. This is why I'm calling out Trump for ignoring the intelligence community. They were giving him reports, starting in late Jan that the likely of a pandemic coming to the States was very high. Trump ignored the data and the facts and instaed chose to played down the virus.

 

[canesfan470]

First, math. Death rate is not the same as the # of deaths.

2nd, most of the climbing rates are in NYC, and their Mayor, De Blasio, told NYers to continue riding the subway and going out as the virus was spreading in the US.

Stop you want to blame dems and give a pass to Trump on the virus..

 

[BreakingCane]

Stop you want to blame dems and give a pass to Trump on the virus..

No, just setting the record straight for those already pointing fingers.

 

[Andymiles1]

Its like a cuckoo clock at the chime another lib spouts gibberish. The left was on Trump's case for stopping flights from China and then Europe. Much of the info about this virus has been acquired over time. There are times for politics and there are times to band together .This is serious stuff right now and politics should be set aside for once . Wash your hands ,social distance use prudence and compassion for your fellow countrymen and we all will get through this.

You're so dumb, you can't even see how much of a hypocrite you are. You mention that this is a time to band together and I can't agree more. The virus doesn't care what political party you vote for. However, you start your post with an offensive and partisan description of me, by calling me a "lib."

I guess you're following your lead from Trump, when he plays politics and decides, which state gets adequate federal assistance, depending on if the governor is a Dem or Republican.

 

[lima23]

If Trump did and continues to do such a great job, then why does the US have the most cases than any other country in the world?

Testing... and the fact that we are three to 8 times bigger in population than each of the European countries. China says they have zero cases... this after torture and murder of people breaking the quarantine. I believe the data from China... they are leftists so you can trust them.

 

[lima23]

No, just setting the record straight for those already pointing fingers.

Don't forget the New York Health Commissioner who told New York citizens there was nothing to worry about.

 

[HJCane]

We live in a global economy, so the Coronavirus was coming to the US no matter what Trump did. But the crisis today was avoidable. For six weeks, Trump saw any criticism of his handling of the Coronavirus as a personal attack on himself. Trump downplayed it, wished it away, and did nothing meaningful to stop it.

He fired the nations pandemic response team, then went golfing, called it a hoax, then went golfing, had a "hunch" it wasn't all that deadly (only a flu), then went golfing, he ignored intelligence warning as far back as late Jan, then went golfing, he bragged 15 cases would soon be down to zero, and then, you guessed it, went golfing.

Trump is responsible for the skyrocketing death rate (today the US reported the most American deaths, since the start of the crisis). Trump has blood on his hands!

Trump is the 8th US president in my lifetime. I feel secure in saying he's the first president who doesn't care if you live or die, only if you'll vote for him or not!

Another liberal with poor listening skills. He said the Democrats politicizing was another hoax. Liberals love to point fingers and blame. Trump spoke about coronavirus at his State of the Union address February 4th you know the speech Nancy tore up?

 

[HJCane]

Don't forget the New York Health Commissioner who told New York citizens there was nothing to worry about.

and ride the subway and attend the parade

 

[HJCane]

I actually do pay attention to facts. This is why I'm calling out Trump for ignoring the intelligence community. They were giving him reports, starting in late Jan that the likely of a pandemic coming to the States was very high. Trump ignored the data and the facts and instaed chose to played down the virus.

When he stopped travel from China the Democrats and their cronies in the FAKE MEDIA attacked him.

 

[lima23]

They also began passing a bill negating Trump's travel ban. But when everything went South they quietly withdrew it.
But, you have to give them a break. The Democrats worked so hard on the impeachment. They, and especially their intelligence committee were totally focused on removing Trump while this thing was building inside of China. During and afterwards, they were just worn out.
And don't ask them to blame China for this... that would be racist... even though Chinese is not a race. And the Chinese are fellow leftists that the Democrats support. They will not betray them.

 

[289fia]

We live in a global economy, so the Coronavirus was coming to the US no matter what Trump did. But the crisis today was avoidable. For six weeks, Trump saw any criticism of his handling of the Coronavirus as a personal attack on himself. Trump downplayed it, wished it away, and did nothing meaningful to stop it.

He fired the nations pandemic response team, then went golfing, called it a hoax, then went golfing, had a "hunch" it wasn't all that deadly (only a flu), then went golfing, he ignored intelligence warning as far back as late Jan, then went golfing, he bragged 15 cases would soon be down to zero, and then, you guessed it, went golfing.

Trump is responsible for the skyrocketing death rate (today the US reported the most American deaths, since the start of the crisis). Trump has blood on his hands!

Trump is the 8th US president in my lifetime. I feel secure in saying he's the first president who doesn't care if you live or die, only if you'll vote for him or not!

The buck stops at the Chinese Government .. who deliberately covered up the discovery of the virus on November 17, 2019. Reprimanded the doctors involved and destroyed reports on the virus. They permitted unrestricted travel throughout the world from Wuhan right until the end of January 2020. It has been estimated that 5 million residents of Wuhan .. the epicenter of the outbreak .. traveled from Wuhan throughout China and the rest of the world .. for Chinese New Year, January 25, 2020. That huge travel peak involved HEAVY travel to northern Italy and Iran .. where there are Chinese factories employing in excess of 100,000 workers in each location. Heavy travel also took place to the heavily Asian populated Pacific Northwest and New York City. You see the results.

There is also the HUGE cover up by the Chinese government of the real impact of the virus IN China. They "admit" to 2300 deaths?? The PM of the UK had his team analyze the realities and the projected number of deaths in WUHAN alone ranges from 25,000 - 40,000 with in excess of 100,000 in China.

 

[BreakingCane]

The buck stops at the Chinese Government .. who deliberately covered up the discovery of the virus on November 17, 2019. Reprimanded the doctors involved and destroyed reports on the virus. They permitted unrestricted travel throughout the world from Wuhan right until the end of January 2020. It has been estimated that 5 million residents of Wuhan .. the epicenter of the outbreak .. traveled from Wuhan throughout China and the rest of the world .. for Chinese New Year, January 25, 2020. That huge travel peak involved HEAVY travel to northern Italy and Iran .. where there are Chinese factories employing in excess of 100,000 workers in each location. Heavy travel also took place to the heavily Asian populated Pacific Northwest and New York City. You see the results.

There is also the HUGE cover up by the Chinese government of the real impact of the virus IN China. They "admit" to 2300 deaths?? The PM of the UK had his team analyze the realities and the projected number of deaths in WUHAN alone ranges from 25,000 - 40,000 with in excess of 100,000 in China.

Washington State apparently flattened their curve early.

 

[Raoul2]

The buck stops at the Chinese Government .. who deliberately covered up the discovery of the virus on November 17, 2019. Reprimanded the doctors involved and destroyed reports on the virus. They permitted unrestricted travel throughout the world from Wuhan right until the end of January 2020. It has been estimated that 5 million residents of Wuhan .. the epicenter of the outbreak .. traveled from Wuhan throughout China and the rest of the world .. for Chinese New Year, January 25, 2020. That huge travel peak involved HEAVY travel to northern Italy and Iran .. where there are Chinese factories employing in excess of 100,000 workers in each location. Heavy travel also took place to the heavily Asian populated Pacific Northwest and New York City. You see the results.

There is also the HUGE cover up by the Chinese government of the real impact of the virus IN China. They "admit" to 2300 deaths?? The PM of the UK had his team analyze the realities and the projected number of deaths in WUHAN alone ranges from 25,000 - 40,000 with in excess of 100,000 in China.

We can't control what the Chinese did. We can however control what our politicians do - and so the buck ultimately stops with the President.

 

[289fia]

We can't control what the Chinese did. We can however control what our politicians do - and so the buck ultimately stops with the President.

I agree .. however the task that virtually every world leader is faced with is an order of magnitude of 100 times what they all would have been faced with if the Chinese had been forthright with the reality of the situation. After this virus is controlled on an international level some specific actions SHOULD be taken with the Chinese leadership. It is unconscionable what they have done.

 

[Andymiles1]

The buck stops at the Chinese Government .. who deliberately covered up the discovery of the virus on November 17, 2019. Reprimanded the doctors involved and destroyed reports on the virus. They permitted unrestricted travel throughout the world from Wuhan right until the end of January 2020. It has been estimated that 5 million residents of Wuhan .. the epicenter of the outbreak .. traveled from Wuhan throughout China and the rest of the world .. for Chinese New Year, January 25, 2020. That huge travel peak involved HEAVY travel to northern Italy and Iran .. where there are Chinese factories employing in excess of 100,000 workers in each location. Heavy travel also took place to the heavily Asian populated Pacific Northwest and New York City. You see the results.

There is also the HUGE cover up by the Chinese government of the real impact of the virus IN China. They "admit" to 2300 deaths?? The PM of the UK had his team analyze the realities and the projected number of deaths in WUHAN alone ranges from 25,000 - 40,000 with in excess of 100,000 in China.

You're soooo right. Trump has done nothing wrong... Get your head out of the sand. You are defending a man that only cares about getting reelected. If you don't see that, you are either a complete imbecile or you are just as heartless and uncompassionate about your fellow American as Trump!!!!

 

[Andymiles1]

The buck stops at the Chinese Government .. who deliberately covered up the discovery of the virus on November 17, 2019. Reprimanded the doctors involved and destroyed reports on the virus. They permitted unrestricted travel throughout the world from Wuhan right until the end of January 2020. It has been estimated that 5 million residents of Wuhan .. the epicenter of the outbreak .. traveled from Wuhan throughout China and the rest of the world .. for Chinese New Year, January 25, 2020. That huge travel peak involved HEAVY travel to northern Italy and Iran .. where there are Chinese factories employing in excess of 100,000 workers in each location. Heavy travel also took place to the heavily Asian populated Pacific Northwest and New York City. You see the results.

There is also the HUGE cover up by the Chinese government of the real impact of the virus IN China. They "admit" to 2300 deaths?? The PM of the UK had his team analyze the realities and the projected number of deaths in WUHAN alone ranges from 25,000 - 40,000 with in excess of 100,000 in China.

Under the best-case scenario, Trump will see more Americans die from the coronavirus in the weeks and months to come than Presidents Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, Lyndon Johnson and Nixon saw die in the Korean and Vietnam wars combined.

That's winning!

 

[289fia]

You're soooo right. Trump has done nothing wrong... Get your head out of the sand. You are defending a man that only cares about getting reelected. If you don't see that, you are either a complete imbecile or you are just as heartless and uncompassionate about your fellow American as Trump!!!!

Check your reading comprehension before you call people an imbecile (or just look in the mirror). I didn't defend slow action by our government .. it could have been better for sure. The main reality however is that this shit storm would not have taken place anywhere NEAR the current levels if the Chinese had not used a major government managed cover up of the existence of the virus. So go ahead and keep up your partisan bitching.

 

[cdwright40]

Nobody believes Trump can stop a virus from coming here. That's never been the beef. It's called a Pandemic for a reason.

 

[289fia]

Washington State apparently flattened their curve early.

Washington State projects their PEAK will be around April 15-18 .. still climbing. Major issue with the Pac Northwest (and the West Coast in general) is the large Chinese population and the custom of traveling on Chinese New Year .. which was January 25th in 2020. Estimated 5 million residents of Wuhan travelled throughout China and the rest of the world. Single most deadly timeline of virus transfer from China.

As of the end of March the Washington Dept Of Health had tested 65,000 cases with 7.5% positive. The age distribution was interesting:

-under 20 .. 2%
- 20-39 .. 25%
- 40 - 59 .. 33%
-60 - 79 .. 28%
-80+ .. 12%

Those numbers certainly refute the premise that it is simply the 65+ population that is at risk.

 

[BreakingCane]

Washington State projects their PEAK will be around April 15-18 .. still climbing. Major issue with the Pac Northwest (and the West Coast in general) is the large Chinese population and the custom of traveling on Chinese New Year .. which was January 25th in 2020. Estimated 5 million residents of Wuhan travelled throughout China and the rest of the world. Single most deadly timeline of virus transfer from China.

As of the end of March the Washington Dept Of Health had tested 65,000 cases with 7.5% positive. The age distribution was interesting:

-under 20 .. 2%
- 20-39 .. 25%
- 40 - 59 .. 33%
-60 - 79 .. 28%
-80+ .. 12%

Those numbers certainly refute the premise that it is simply the 65+ population that is at risk.

Small peak. Look at the age of the dead. 70+ dead from two nursing homes?

 

[lima23]

Under the best-case scenario, Trump will see more Americans die from the coronavirus in the weeks and months to come than Presidents Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, Lyndon Johnson and Nixon saw die in the Korean and Vietnam wars combined.

That's winning!

In the Spanish Flu 50 million people died world wide. And, the number of American deaths greatly exceeded American combat deaths in WWI. One thing though: I don't think they had ghouls celebrating those deaths as we do. Enjoy!

 

[jyoho]

I'm not going to argue on here with a fox-news watcher. Explain to me why did he down play the seriousness of the virus? Why did he brag about firing the disease pandemic team that was already in place that would of got in front of this thing due to their experience with the H1N1? He knew about this virus since Jan and said only 15 people is affected and would go down to 1. He said that. I will not give him credit for shutting down travel cause he should of done it sooner. Obama and his team put Trump transition team through an exercise on how to deal with an epidemic crisis and they didn't take a serious and now Americans are paying with their lives. And you're still not explaining how you defend the lies and crap that comes out his mouth. There's audio and video evidence, geez.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-inauguration-warning-scenario-pandemic-132797

Clown. You avoided everything and because he said it was going to go from 15 to one that makes him responsible. Name one other country that shut things down faster. I don’t get my info from television, I get them from the hospitals I work in and patients I see. Not worth arguing with a low information person. Get a grip. Tell me one thing that anyone has said he should have done quicker. News flash, there isn’t.... bc when he shut down travel, Pelosi and Schumer tweeted he was racist for doing it.

 

[CashvilleCane1]

We live in a global economy, so the Coronavirus was coming to the US no matter what Trump did. But the crisis today was avoidable. For six weeks, Trump saw any criticism of his handling of the Coronavirus as a personal attack on himself. Trump downplayed it, wished it away, and did nothing meaningful to stop it.

He fired the nations pandemic response team, then went golfing, called it a hoax, then went golfing, had a "hunch" it wasn't all that deadly (only a flu), then went golfing, he ignored intelligence warning as far back as late Jan, then went golfing, he bragged 15 cases would soon be down to zero, and then, you guessed it, went golfing.

Trump is responsible for the skyrocketing death rate (today the US reported the most American deaths, since the start of the crisis). Trump has blood on his hands!

Trump is the 8th US president in my lifetime. I feel secure in saying he's the first president who doesn't care if you live or die, only if you'll vote for him or not!

Lots of speculation it was here in late October early November before anyone knew anything. They may be a large group who were already exposed and carry the antibody right now.

 

[jyoho]

Lots of speculation it was here in late October early November before anyone knew anything. They may be a large group who were already exposed and carry the antibody right now.