The NBA’s ratings are at historic lows.

[grbcane]

I guess the NBA will have to rely on Communist China’s money. I’m sure LeBron is okay with that. There’s nothing wrong with slavery or ethnic cleansing, as long as it’s Communist China doing it.

Panic Time: NBA Fast-Approaching Historic Ratings Lows

The NBA has suffered another ratings disaster, with ABC falling 45 percent, TNT was down 40 percent, and ESPN off 20 percent.

www.breitbart.com

 

[cortez55403]

Grb,

I am assuming your logic is this:

you don’t like the political activism of many NBA players
accordingly, you don’t watch the NBA much
you assume others are not watching for the same reasons you don’t. See Breitbart

Is that correct?

 

[BreakingCane]

I guess the NBA will have to rely on Communist China’s money. I’m sure LeBron is okay with that. There’s nothing wrong with slavery or ethnic cleansing, as long as it’s Communist China doing it.

Panic Time: NBA Fast-Approaching Historic Ratings Lows

The NBA has suffered another ratings disaster, with ABC falling 45 percent, TNT was down 40 percent, and ESPN off 20 percent.

www.breitbart.com

And Lebron and others can profit from it. They are doing their best Master impersonation while claiming systemic racism here. Lololol

 

[grbcane]

Grb,

I am assuming your logic is this:

you don’t like the political activism of many NBA players
accordingly, you don’t watch the NBA much
you assume others are not watching for the same reasons you don’t. See Breitbart

Is that correct?

Ratings are way down, and their involvement in politics is a big factor in causing them to drop.

I quit watching the NBA.

The NBA is Communist China’s league, and that’s where the NBA will make up their revenue.

That‘s why their a ok with China’s ethnic cleansing and slavery. For LeBron and NBA owners human right abuses are just fine, as long as it’s the right people.

 

[cortez55403]

Different perspective:

* I didn’t watch the NBA much cuz my team (Golden State) was out early. Also, the “bubble” format was dry and a bit boring .....no crowd noise.
* I admire the political outspokenness of its players and coaches in great contrast to other pro and college sports. Coaches like Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich are exactly who I’d want to play for.
* Silver is a decisive commissioner, very keen to protect players’ right to speak. Similarly, NBA owners are more forward looking than NFL owners. (Eg blackball of Colin Kaepernick).
* As to China, wasn’t it a Houston NBA executive who stated “We stand with Hong Kong”? The NBA took tremendous heat from China on this. Trump never took this courageous stand. The NBA guy did.
* Dr. Laura saying “shut up and dribble” is the epitome of condescending treatment of athletes who have opinions. Shamelessly old school.

I support the NBA.

 

[grbcane]

Different perspective:

* I didn’t watch the NBA much cuz my team (Golden State) was out early. Also, the “bubble” format was dry and a bit boring .....no crowd noise.
* I admire the political outspokenness of its players and coaches in great contrast to other pro and college sports. Coaches like Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich are exactly who I’d want to play for.
* Silver is a decisive commissioner, very keen to protect players’ right to speak. Similarly, NBA owners are more forward looking than NFL owners. (Eg blackball of Colin Kaepernick).
* As to China, wasn’t it a Houston NBA executive who stated “We stand with Hong Kong”? The NBA took tremendous heat from China on this. Trump never took this courageous stand. The NBA guy did.
* Dr. Laura saying “shut up and dribble” is the epitome of condescending treatment of athletes who have opinions. Shamelessly old school.

I support the NBA.

Did you see what happened to the that guy after he tweeted his support for Hong Kong. LeBron attacked him, no one dares to interfere with his Chinese shoe sales. The NBA’s idea of taking the moral high ground is determined by how much is put in its back pocket. They worship at the Chinese Communist alter.

 

[grbcane]

Different perspective:

* I didn’t watch the NBA much cuz my team (Golden State) was out early. Also, the “bubble” format was dry and a bit boring .....no crowd noise.
* I admire the political outspokenness of its players and coaches in great contrast to other pro and college sports. Coaches like Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich are exactly who I’d want to play for.
* Silver is a decisive commissioner, very keen to protect players’ right to speak. Similarly, NBA owners are more forward looking than NFL owners. (Eg blackball of Colin Kaepernick).
* As to China, wasn’t it a Houston NBA executive who stated “We stand with Hong Kong”? The NBA took tremendous heat from China on this. Trump never took this courageous stand. The NBA guy did.
* Dr. Laura saying “shut up and dribble” is the epitome of condescending treatment of athletes who have opinions. Shamelessly old school.

I support the NBA.

What’s condescending is these ignorant athletes thinking they know more about what’s going on than we do, and thinking we need to hear about it.

 

[cortez55403]

GRB,

As I recall, you are a solid Trump supporter. Is that true?

If so, I don’t recall you calling Trump out for failing to “stand with Hong Kong”, his failing to criticize China for imprisoning the Uighers, his failing to criticize Chinese suppression of political dissent.

How do reconcile support for Trump’s gentle touch with touchy Chinese issues and criticism of the NBA for the same thing?

 

[ellu]

What’s condescending is these ignorant athletes thinking they know more about what’s going on than we do, and thinking we need to hear about it.

Your on a message board where adults fawn over the whims of teenage boys. When they grow to men you no longer want their opinions?

The Master's was down 45% from pre-pandemic.
NASCAR is down 12% from June of 2021.
March Madness was down 14%.

The prediction is that all sports will be down 15% minimum, why? Because linear live television is down. I don't know about you but I watch what I want when I want to, not when it's announced.

 

[Allied2651]

The problem with Sports and actors and actresses, is that they need to stick to their craft, which they are good at, and stay out of politics which they sound foolish as soon as they open their mouths.
The NBA has that alien as the commissioner who along with most owners have bent over and accepted the players behavior. It's the tail wagging the dog.

 

[Raoul2]

The problem with Sports and actors and actresses, is that they need to stick to their craft, which they are good at, and stay out of politics which they sound foolish as soon as they open their mouths.
The NBA has that alien as the commissioner who along with most owners have bent over and accepted the players behavior. It's the tail wagging the dog.

This is obviously not very realistic. Athletes are citizens just like you and I, and have every right to voice their opinions, just as each of us do here on a daily basis. Same thing applies to actors, musicians, and all other famous people.

 

[6882]

Nba has sucked for several years now. Politics not helping.

 

[ellu]

The problem with Sports and actors and actresses, is that they need to stick to their craft, which they are good at, and stay out of politics which they sound foolish as soon as they open their mouths.
The NBA has that alien as the commissioner who along with most owners have bent over and accepted the players behavior. It's the tail wagging the dog.

When did sports not include politics? Is it the politics that you disagree with or the athlete expressing them. Last check, sports has been at the forefront of politics for as long as major leagues existed. some good, Babe Zaharias, Jim Thorpe, Jesse Owens, some good and bad Branch Rickey, Teofillo Stephens, Jack Dempsey, and some bad Marge Schott, Lenny Dykstra, Jim Brown ... its just not new.

But here is the real thing, why the distaste for someone expressing their 1st amendment right? I mean its literally the first, and if you don't like it you can tune it out. Hell feel free to "cancel" it. I don't have to agree with shit Herschel Walker says but I can respect his right to say it. I don't agree with Colby Covington, didn't agree with Machmoud Abdul Raof, but I'm not going to be upset over them saying.

So for those that don't watch X because they don't want to hear Y, that's the way to do it. As for me, I want to see BLM stickers on helmets because Black Lives do Matter. You have every right to cancel those who feel the same, call its something different since "cancel" has become toxic.

 

[kimzkr]

As far as the NBA goes, I stopped watching years ago. It had nothing to do with politics or anything else. It has to do with my opinion that the game is a shell of its old self. I grew up in the 80's and 90's watching some of the best ball ever played. I was blessed to grow up watching Jordan, Magic, Bird , Isiah, Clyde the glide, Hakeem, Ewing, and countless others. What made ball special to me was a multitude of things that todays game no longer offers. Some of these things includes teams that actually kept their rosters intact for more than 2 seasons, actual rivalries ( IE pistons vs bulls, heat vs knicks, Pacers vs Heat, lakers vs celtics, etc.), players playing for the love of the game, not just the $$. David Stern was perhaps one of best commisioners ever in pro sports IMO. Todays game is a large representaion of the generational gap I see in todays society ( I am 46)...........Not saying todays game is better or worse than in the past, it just does not do it for me anymore. I really do miss basketball , as I miss good old fashioned rock n roll, but it is what it is.

 

[kimzkr]

When did sports not include politics? Is it the politics that you disagree with or the athlete expressing them. Last check, sports has been at the forefront of politics for as long as major leagues existed. some good, Babe Zaharias, Jim Thorpe, Jesse Owens, some good and bad Branch Rickey, Teofillo Stephens, Jack Dempsey, and some bad Marge Schott, Lenny Dykstra, Jim Brown ... its just not new.

But here is the real thing, why the distaste for someone expressing their 1st amendment right? I mean its literally the first, and if you don't like it you can tune it out. Hell feel free to "cancel" it. I don't have to agree with shit Herschel Walker says but I can respect his right to say it. I don't agree with Colby Covington, didn't agree with Machmoud Abdul Raof, but I'm not going to be upset over them saying.

So for those that don't watch X because they don't want to hear Y, that's the way to do it. As for me, I want to see BLM stickers on helmets because Black Lives do Matter. You have every right to cancel those who feel the same, call its something different since "cancel" has become toxic.

would you also like to see WLM ( white) , ALM (Asians), HLM (Hispanic), or JLM(Jewish) stickers on helmets? You seem like a reasonable human to me, thus , I believe you will say yes

 

[central17]

When did sports not include politics? Is it the politics that you disagree with or the athlete expressing them. Last check, sports has been at the forefront of politics for as long as major leagues existed. some good, Babe Zaharias, Jim Thorpe, Jesse Owens, some good and bad Branch Rickey, Teofillo Stephens, Jack Dempsey, and some bad Marge Schott, Lenny Dykstra, Jim Brown ... its just not new.

But here is the real thing, why the distaste for someone expressing their 1st amendment right? I mean its literally the first, and if you don't like it you can tune it out. Hell feel free to "cancel" it. I don't have to agree with shit Herschel Walker says but I can respect his right to say it. I don't agree with Colby Covington, didn't agree with Machmoud Abdul Raof, but I'm not going to be upset over them saying.

So for those that don't watch X because they don't want to hear Y, that's the way to do it. As for me, I want to see BLM stickers on helmets because Black Lives do Matter. You have every right to cancel those who feel the same, call its something different since "cancel" has become toxic.

Ellu,

If I may opine. In all the examples you gave of athletes, it was their very existence on the field, court etc. that was the political issue. And in all cases those brave athletes excelled at the job of their sport. They made others accept them with their deeds, not their words.

What many are being turned off from in pro sports is being lectured by the athletes. The athletes joyfully deface traditions that most fans like (e.g. standing for the national anthem). It comes across as the athletes saying "piss on you silly little fan, shut up and obey me, and pay more for your ticket or cable cause I'm making $10M and I want $25M.

Lebron James is an all time great basketball player. But does he deserve to be even in the same area code as men like Jackie Robinson, Jack Johnson, and Jesse Owens when it comes to bravery, class and overcoming true and unfair obstacles? Lebron cry's like a girl if some guy looks at him funny from the 50th row or some idiot writes an ignorant tweet. Thinks he is overcoming the worst racism anyone has ever endured. Have him study what the forementioned and so many more personally went through. Lebron has become the posterchild for why America now cares far less about professional sports. They want to get away the daily grind and politics; to watch their team, not get lectured at by the definition of an entitled rich athlete or entertainer.

To draw a corollary, when I listened to Rush Limbaugh I would turn the channel when Rush started to talk about pro football as if he thought the audience cared about his football analysis. Most of the audience did not, but at least he kept it to a minimum. The same is the case with athletes using a game to push their political agenda. When you can't even get to kickoff, the tip off or first pitch without the national anthem being dissed and the liberal slogan of the day being shoved in your face - time to turn the channel and that is what America is doing.

 

[central17]

GRB,

As I recall, you are a solid Trump supporter. Is that true?

If so, I don’t recall you calling Trump out for failing to “stand with Hong Kong”, his failing to criticize China for imprisoning the Uighers, his failing to criticize Chinese suppression of political dissent.

How do reconcile support for Trump’s gentle touch with touchy Chinese issues and criticism of the NBA for the same thing?

Cortez,

I have a little different memory than you do when it comes to Trump and the Chinese. I remember Team Blue going berserk when Trump wanted to cut off travel to China, called Covid the China Virus, retaliated against unfair trade practices and called out the Chinese government on human rights violations. I seem to remember Hunter's dad reading a DNC written teleprompter that said Trump was Xenophobic. Am I misremembering or are you drinking up the profits? LOL

 

[cortez55403]

Cortez,

I have a little different memory than you do when it comes to Trump and the Chinese. I remember Team Blue going berserk when Trump wanted to cut off travel to China, called Covid the China Virus, retaliated against unfair trade practices and called out the Chinese government on human rights violations. I seem to remember Hunter's dad reading a DNC written teleprompter that said Trump was Xenophobic. Am I misremembering or are you drinking up the profits? LOL

In my memory, Trump did cut off air travel and did fight back on trade practices.

He did not, however: stand with Hong Kong; protest the treatment of Uighers or call out China for suppressing dissent. These latter 3 items were cited above as failings of the NBA and its stars due to their collective deference to China‘s revenue potential. I found it ironic that they were castigated for the same policies followed by Trump.

 

[Allied2651]

When did sports not include politics? Is it the politics that you disagree with or the athlete expressing them. Last check, sports has been at the forefront of politics for as long as major leagues existed. some good, Babe Zaharias, Jim Thorpe, Jesse Owens, some good and bad Branch Rickey, Teofillo Stephens, Jack Dempsey, and some bad Marge Schott, Lenny Dykstra, Jim Brown ... its just not new.

But here is the real thing, why the distaste for someone expressing their 1st amendment right? I mean its literally the first, and if you don't like it you can tune it out. Hell feel free to "cancel" it. I don't have to agree with shit Herschel Walker says but I can respect his right to say it. I don't agree with Colby Covington, didn't agree with Machmoud Abdul Raof, but I'm not going to be upset over them saying.

So for those that don't watch X because they don't want to hear Y, that's the way to do it. As for me, I want to see BLM stickers on helmets because Black Lives do Matter. You have every right to cancel those who feel the same, call its something different since "cancel" has become toxic.

I believe that they are impressionable, visible people that express themselves as a hurd instead as individuals. The hurd mentality is strength in numbers to influence owners, league management and the public to influence their point of view. It's effective and visible since they entertain the public. I just feel that their platform is not the place to influence people. It's their place of work for which their job description likely does not allow for this behavior. They get away with it due to a potential loss of revenue for the league and owners of the teams should the players walk out, protest in a more distasteful way resulting in more financial damage instead of just giving into theatrics such as kneeling or sayings on jerseys, all somewhat benign. I would agree with the statement that Black lives matter as well as Asian lives and for that matter all lives matter. It's just that if I am paying money for a ticket to a sporting event, I don't want to pay for causes to be shoved in my face, I only want to view the sporting event that I paid for.

 

[central17]

In my memory, Trump did cut off air travel and did fight back on trade practices.

He did not, however: stand with Hong Kong; protest the treatment of Uighers or call out China for suppressing dissent. These latter 3 items were cited above as failings of the NBA and its stars due to their collective deference to China‘s revenue potential. I found it ironic that they were castigated for the same policies followed by Trump.

Cortez,

Please find a link confirming Trump's support of the Uighers.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/worl...hem-now-donald-trump-leaving-white-house.html

There are many more articles that I could send regarding this subject and Trump's support of Hong Kong dissidents. A friendly suggestion, if you are interested in what is going on in Asia, get your information from Japanese, Australian and New Zealand sources. Fox does not have a clue and CNN lies.

 

[kimzkr]

Ellu,

If I may opine. In all the examples you gave of athletes, it was their very existence on the field, court etc. that was the political issue. And in all cases those brave athletes excelled at the job of their sport. They made others accept them with their deeds, not their words.

What many are being turned off from in pro sports is being lectured by the athletes. The athletes joyfully deface traditions that most fans like (e.g. standing for the national anthem). It comes across as the athletes saying "piss on you silly little fan, shut up and obey me, and pay more for your ticket or cable cause I'm making $10M and I want $25M.

Lebron James is an all time great basketball player. But does he deserve to be even in the same area code as men like Jackie Robinson, Jack Johnson, and Jesse Owens when it comes to bravery, class and overcoming true and unfair obstacles? Lebron cry's like a girl if some guy looks at him funny from the 50th row or some idiot writes an ignorant tweet. Thinks he is overcoming the worst racism anyone has ever endured. Have him study what the forementioned and so many more personally went through. Lebron has become the posterchild for why America now cares far less about professional sports. They want to get away the daily grind and politics; to watch their team, not get lectured at by the definition of an entitled rich athlete or entertainer.

To draw a corollary, when I listened to Rush Limbaugh I would turn the channel when Rush started to talk about pro football as if he thought the audience cared about his football analysis. Most of the audience did not, but at least he kept it to a minimum. The same is the case with athletes using a game to push their political agenda. When you can't even get to kickoff, the tip off or first pitch without the national anthem being dissed and the liberal slogan of the day being shoved in your face - time to turn the channel and that is what America is doing.

Extremely open minded and fair opine ... good to see that thinking still exists in today’s world

 

[grbcane]

Your on a message board where adults fawn over the whims of teenage boys. When they grow to men you no longer want their opinions?

The Master's was down 45% from pre-pandemic.
NASCAR is down 12% from June of 2021.
March Madness was down 14%.

The prediction is that all sports will be down 15% minimum, why? Because linear live television is down. I don't know about you but I watch what I want when I want to, not when it's announced.

We don’t need to hear their ignorance, when the rest of us are working people don’t have to put up with our political views. Shut up and do your job. You can continue to put your head in the sand, but most reasonable people acknowledge making sports political has hurt professional sports.

 

[ellu]

Cortez,

Please find a link confirming Trump's support of the Uighers.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/worl...hem-now-donald-trump-leaving-white-house.html

There are many more articles that I could send regarding this subject and Trump's support of Hong Kong dissidents. A friendly suggestion, if you are interested in what is going on in Asia, get your information from Japanese, Australian and New Zealand sources. Fox does not have a clue and CNN lies.

Fair enough but you are aware that a number of articles state he did not support the Uighur's and his former admin says the same. Its in the article you provided near the bottom as well. There is a dissident who does have faith in him, she is the focus of the article, it is not the norm however. Not saying you presented as such but adding clarity.

 

[ellu]

We don’t need to hear their ignorance, when the rest of us are working people don’t have to put up with our political views. Shut up and do your job. You can continue to put your head in the sand, but most reasonable people acknowledge making sports political has hurt professional sports.

Whose putting their heads in the sand? You are literally chaffing at hearing something that you don't agree with and demanding that those who you disagree with abrogate their 1st amendment right? Cancel it, invoke the culture you've made a pariah and hit the cancel button. No one makes you watch but no should silence someone else. If you want dictatorship or authoritarians telling folks what they can and can not say we differ.

Reasonable believe in the US Constitution. Don't touch my right to own a weapon and don't touch my right to free speech. This Black Life Matters.

 

[grbcane]

Whose putting their heads in the sand? You are literally chaffing at hearing something that you don't agree with and demanding that those who you disagree with abrogate their 1st amendment right? Cancel it, invoke the culture you've made a pariah and hit the cancel button. No one makes you watch but no should silence someone else. If you want dictatorship or authoritarians telling folks what they can and can not say we differ.

Reasonable believe in the US Constitution. Don't touch my right to own a weapon and don't touch my right to free speech. This Black Life Matters.

As usual you‘re out there like Pluto. Left is right , right is left, up is down, and down is up, then muddy the waters.

 

[central17]

Fair enough but you are aware that a number of articles state he did not support the Uighur's and his former admin says the same. Its in the article you provided near the bottom as well. There is a dissident who does have faith in him, she is the focus of the article, it is not the norm however. Not saying you presented as such but adding clarity.

Yes, have heard various MSM narratives regarding Trump's policies on China, most proven to be untrue. And to go back to a previous discussion that you and I had regarding journalism, that is why the New Zealand article was so credible. It did report on a specific person's view but then did mention there were differing opinions out there. CNN, NYT and WAPO should take note, that is what true journalism looks like. Not their typical hit piece that doesn't even acknowledge contrary points of view exist, no less report them,

I know Cortez was not making up his misinformation regarding the Uighers and Hong Kong. He was just stating the only information he had been provided by his trusted sources, CNN, NBC, NYT, WAPO and ESPN's well studied Asian Affairs expert, Lebron James.

 

[ellu]

Yes, have heard various MSM narratives regarding Trump's policies on China, most proven to be untrue. And to go back to a previous discussion that you and I had regarding journalism, that is why the New Zealand article was so credible. It did report on a specific person's view but then did mention there were differing opinions out there. CNN, NYT and WAPO should take note, that is what true journalism looks like. Not their typical hit piece that doesn't even acknowledge contrary points of view exist, no less report them,

I know Cortez was not making up his misinformation regarding the Uighers and Hong Kong. He was just stating the only information he had been provided by his trusted sources, CNN, NBC, NYT, WAPO and ESPN's well studied Asian Affairs expert, Lebron James.

disagree about the characterization of other journals but I do believe the article you provided was a solid piece. That being said, it didn't exactly state that he was or was not supportive, more so it highlighted the views of a dissident leader, I agree that is representative of some dissidents at a minimum and possibly as whole. Journalism doesn't require presenting both sides however, William F. Buckley was great and his opinions were decidedly GOP, as is Maureen Dowd.

Respect tho. Great contribution.

 

[ellu]

As usual you‘re out there like Pluto. Left is right , right is left, up is down, and down is up, then muddy the waters.

No, on this one right is right. Literally, the right of Americans to express their opinion and your right to not have to hear them are equally important. Turn the channel, cancel the sport, but don't abrogate people's rights.

 

[6882]

Nba basketball players use to look like te’s because the game was meant to be played physical. Now they look like really tall African track runners because defense is illegal and traveling is excepted. Game sucks now. I use to be able to name at least two players from every team. Now I can’t even name one player on my own cities team and I work in a place with two tv’s on all the time and lot’s of people around me all the time. Nobody asks and nobody talks about it.

the polatics in the nba clearly aren’t even an issue anymore because nobody even tunes into hear what they have to say to even be pissed off anyway. Nobody gives a shit but apparently china who the nba is apparently trying to marry.

even my friends and family that use to have season tickets have stopped renewing because not only do they not care enough to go anymore but they can’t even give their really good tickets away to people like me anymore. It’s just not worth the to do anymore. The league sucks and the politics are the garnish on top of the shit sandwich.

 

[BreakingCane]

Your on a message board where adults fawn over the whims of teenage boys. When they grow to men you no longer want their opinions?

The Master's was down 45% from pre-pandemic.
NASCAR is down 12% from June of 2021.
March Madness was down 14%.

The prediction is that all sports will be down 15% minimum, why? Because linear live television is down. I don't know about you but I watch what I want when I want to, not when it's announced.

You watch sporting events on recording after the fact? You a grandpa?

 

[Allied2651]

Nba basketball players use to look like te’s because the game was meant to be played physical. Now they look like really tall African track runners because defense is illegal and traveling is excepted. Game sucks now. I use to be able to name at least two players from every team. Now I can’t even name one player on my own cities team and I work in a place with two tv’s on all the time and lot’s of people around me all the time. Nobody asks and nobody talks about it.

the polatics in the nba clearly aren’t even an issue anymore because nobody even tunes into hear what they have to say to even be pissed off anyway. Nobody gives a shit but apparently china who the nba is apparently trying to marry.

even my friends and family that use to have season tickets have stopped renewing because not only do they not care enough to go anymore but they can’t even give their really good tickets away to people like me anymore. It’s just not worth the to do anymore. The league sucks and the politics are the garnish on top of the shit sandwich.

Agree, the rule changes on defense, with the limitations on hand checking, make it a watered down defense in my opinion.

 

[cems52]

What’s condescending is these ignorant athletes thinking they know more about what’s going on than we do, and thinking we need to hear about it.

I suppose you feel the Canes have "ignorant athletes"? What say you?

 

[krvanness]

Let's face it, Free Agency has ruined the NBA. You think back to the era of the Pistons, the nasty play, Rodman sacrificing his body for a rebound or to keep the ball in play for his team. The rivalries, traditions, etc...all gone. As Joni Mitchell said, "you don't know what you got till it's gone"

 

[grbcane]

Let's face it, Free Agency has ruined the NBA. You think back to the era of the Pistons, the nasty play, Rodman sacrificing his body for a rebound or to keep the ball in play for his team. The rivalries, traditions, etc...all gone. As Joni Mitchell said, "you don't know what you got till it's gone"

My team growing up was the Sixers. Dr. J, D Dawkins, Mo Cheeks, Andrew Toney, Caldwell Jones, Bobby Jones, I still hate the Celtics.

 

[6882]

My team growing up was the Sixers. Dr. J, D Dawkins, Mo Cheeks, Andrew Toney, Caldwell Jones, Bobby Jones, I still hate the Celtics.

My team growing up was shaq, penny, horrace, nick, skiles (just came into my restaurant tonight) scott is a cool guy but intimidating as hell. Guy has his game face on at all time. Even when he’s paying you a compliment, he does it in a way that you feel like you’re being reprimanded. Pretty sure he still has the record fir most assists in the nba. Remember assists? Use to be an art form. Are assists even still around?

 

[cortez55403]

6882,

My Warriors beat Denver last night as Dramond Green led the team with 19 assists.

Playing small ball with a modest sized lineup, Green realized that the Nuggets would naturally focus their defense on stopping Steph Curry. Nobody has been able to do it. But Dramond took advantage of that anti-Steph strategy and consistently got the ball to the other open players.

Warriors won by 21!

 

[grbcane]

My team growing up was the Sixers. Dr. J, D Dawkins, Mo Cheeks, Andrew Toney, Caldwell Jones, Bobby Jones, I still hate the Celtics.

I can’t believe I left of Moses Malone even if it was only for a year.

 

[HJCane]

Different perspective:

* I didn’t watch the NBA much cuz my team (Golden State) was out early. Also, the “bubble” format was dry and a bit boring .....no crowd noise.
* I admire the political outspokenness of its players and coaches in great contrast to other pro and college sports. Coaches like Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich are exactly who I’d want to play for.
* Silver is a decisive commissioner, very keen to protect players’ right to speak. Similarly, NBA owners are more forward looking than NFL owners. (Eg blackball of Colin Kaepernick).
* As to China, wasn’t it a Houston NBA executive who stated “We stand with Hong Kong”? The NBA took tremendous heat from China on this. Trump never took this courageous stand. The NBA guy did.
* Dr. Laura saying “shut up and dribble” is the epitome of condescending treatment of athletes who have opinions. Shamelessly old school.

I support the NBA.

Trump went after China the most of any President. After decades of being ripped off it was Trump who stood up and said no more.............and then the virus hit.

 

[HJCane]

In my memory, Trump did cut off air travel and did fight back on trade practices.

He did not, however: stand with Hong Kong; protest the treatment of Uighers or call out China for suppressing dissent. These latter 3 items were cited above as failings of the NBA and its stars due to their collective deference to China‘s revenue potential. I found it ironic that they were castigated for the same policies followed by Trump.

Yes he did.

 

[HJCane]

In my memory, Trump did cut off air travel and did fight back on trade practices.

He did not, however: stand with Hong Kong; protest the treatment of Uighers or call out China for suppressing dissent. These latter 3 items were cited above as failings of the NBA and its stars due to their collective deference to China‘s revenue potential. I found it ironic that they were castigated for the same policies followed by Trump.

Support for Trump in Hong Kong and Taiwan Is Unsurprising (But Misguided)

Worry about the reliability of Democratic presidents is based on a selective reading of past and current events.

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