$33 billion? Is there a limit ?
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Why should we negotiate Ukraine's freedom with a war criminal? Putin is corrupt like Trump. Would you negotiate your freedom or land? Also, those tax cuts did not increase revenues. Stop parroting right wing nonsense. Here are the facts on your tax cut fantasies.
What Are the Costs of the Trump Tax Cuts to You?
The Tax Cut and Jobs Act promised to add $1.8 trillion in revenue. Instead, it could add $2.3 trillion to the debt.
Cems this is an old and tired argument because it always omits the other side of the coin SPENDING. If you take in more money but spend greater than that amount, you will always run a deficit. I don't care what Party is in power. They REFUSE to curb spending. The tax cuts helped business be more competitive and we saw more USA companies bring business back to America, we saw bonuses, we saw repatriation of hundreds of billions of dollars sitting outside America but then we saw more SPENDING and a refusal to cut waste, cut spending. Until that happens it doesn't matter who is in office we will ALWAYS add to the deficit.Why should we negotiate Ukraine's freedom with a war criminal? Putin is corrupt like Trump. Would you negotiate your freedom or land? Also, those tax cuts did not increase revenues. Stop parroting right wing nonsense. Here are the facts on your tax cut fantasies.
What Are the Costs of the Trump Tax Cuts to You?
The Tax Cut and Jobs Act promised to add $1.8 trillion in revenue. Instead, it could add $2.3 trillion to the debt.www.thebalance.com
Use your BRAIN MAN ! LOL
Tax Foundation says revenue from corporate taxes hit an all time high in 2021- 370 billion. Read it and weep. Sorry it doesn't fit your agenda.Why should we negotiate Ukraine's freedom with a war criminal? Putin is corrupt like Trump. Would you negotiate your freedom or land? Also, those tax cuts did not increase revenues. Stop parroting right wing nonsense. Here are the facts on your tax cut fantasies.
What Are the Costs of the Trump Tax Cuts to You?
The Tax Cut and Jobs Act promised to add $1.8 trillion in revenue. Instead, it could add $2.3 trillion to the debt.
Actually, no one really talks about this .
All the economic gains in the Brandon administration are attributable to the actions taken by Trump. Sure there was an artificial boost with the second unneeded stimulus deal , but that disastrous consequences
The tax structure plus the relaxed regulations and the tariffs put in under Trump continued to drive the economy, with Brandon feverishly trying to destroy it.
Brandon tries to take credit for jobs which came back after the Covid shutdown. Really is nonsense
The jobs were lost because liberals like Fauci and Birx were in charge of the pandemic response
Trump had no choice to initially go along the Public Health dogma ,
Nothing Brandon has done has had a positive effect on the economy
These people are too dumb to realize these kinds of tax cuts hurt us. They don't help us. They add to the national debt they complain about. They think everything they should get is free. Sound familiar? You guessed it...the same things they accuse liberals of ironically. They thing our system of government should be free to them and they should work and not have to pay into the systems they use.Why should we negotiate Ukraine's freedom with a war criminal? Putin is corrupt like Trump. Would you negotiate your freedom or land? Also, those tax cuts did not increase revenues. Stop parroting right wing nonsense. Here are the facts on your tax cut fantasies.
What Are the Costs of the Trump Tax Cuts to You?
The Tax Cut and Jobs Act promised to add $1.8 trillion in revenue. Instead, it could add $2.3 trillion to the debt.
I fully support the Ukrainian people. Putin is a thug. BUT, just because something is a good cause does not mean that money is being well spent. The US in on target to spend at least $100B in Ukraine in 2022. Is this BEST use of US funds. There are a lot of critical needs within the US. Maybe baby formula to poor families that are US tax paying citizens.Can anyone say that 99.99999% of this money is going to help the Ukrainian people. Can anyone guarantee that 0.00% of the money is not actually going to:
Liz Cheney or other ANY congressional campaign contributions or lobbying expenses?
To Joe, Hunter, Jill, Jim or any other Biden family member?
To US celebreties supporting Ukraine. Zalensky said after Bono sang that he wanted Lady Gaga. Why should US tax payers fund the Zalensky dream summer concert series?
Liz Cheney or other ANY congressional campaign contributions or lobbying expenses?
To Joe, Hunter, Jill, Jim or any other Biden family member?
To US celebreties supporting Ukraine. Zalensky said after Bono sang that he wanted Lady Gaga. Why should US tax payers fund the Zalensky dream summer concert series?
Huh? Why not? Of course you want to spend money because something is a good cause. which is our democratic process and our very freedom we live by. If we don't we are in danger of losing that.
Everyone supports the Ukrainian people
Everyone knows Putin is a thug.
Trump knew that too, but he viewed his job as trying to get along with Russia as that would be in our best National interest. He didn’t coddle Putin. He treated him like a business adversary.
As to this uncapped financial commitment, it’s absurd
But let’s not forget that it is among the most corrupt countries in the world .
We have our own problems that warrant financial commitments. Many .
The swamp in DC has this belief that there is this money tree from which to pick $$ without consequences.
I’m convinced that there is an ulterior motive behind the enormous effort by those in DC to pursue hostilities with Russia.
There is still the talk on virtually all the cable networks that Victory is in sight . That Putin will be defeated militarily. That the Donbas will be recaptured along with Crimea.
It’s unrealistic
I agree that Ukraine has to decide what the terms of settlement will be , but if we continue to say we will continue to fund the war , we encourage more death and destruction
Meanwhile the residents of Loundes county in Alabama don’t have sewers or septic tanks. Where’s their billions ?
Of course Trump coddled him. He stood up in front of a world stage and sided with him over our own intelligence agencies.
So this argument that revenues increased but so did the deficit is a bogus success story. You agree? Athough revenues seemed to have increased it really didn't. Those tax cuts do reduce the amount of revenue collected thus the deficit.
CD,
Why does Putin invade the Ukraine everytime Joe Biden is in power?
Asking for a friend.
The truth is It makes absolutely ZERO difference who is in power when Putin invades the Ukraine. ZILTCH! NADA! ZIPPO!!! The very idea this would matter is nothing short of silly.
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Kind of like it makes no difference who the Head Coach of a college football team is as to their record.
Thank you Mrs. Diaz.
No, kinda like this has absolutely nothing to do with college football. People are dying in the streets and to compare it to a football game is a bit obtuse.
NEVER EVER would have happened if Trump was President. Exactly why it didnt happen when he was!!!
NOBODY is worried about a mentally challenged man who shits his pants while meeting the pope
Take your head out of your ass already cems
Try to say something actually coherent or relevant!
Pfffft
You dudes are hilarious. You are telling us this as if anyone gives a shit about what woulda or coulda or shoulda happened. Well, Trump lost so why do you think this is relevant to anyone in the free world except YOU....LMAO. It's not our fault this POS lost. Well, then win your election right? What do you want us to do with what maybe might not should or could or maybe happened if this that or the other???? NOBODY CARES what would have happened if a loser would have won. We don't know any of this. It's just a guess and the fact of the matter is Trump lost so what difference does it make?
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It’s truly fitting when you cant respond to a tweet calling out your completely small minded ignorant politcal views
Pfffffft
Listen fuktard, it’s relevant as it shows the difference between who emotional ignorant people voted for and people that voted for Trump
you truly deserve all the abuse you get here
I actually believe you enjoy it, as its the only attention you get!
Pfft
"He didn't coddle Putin"? Trump took Putin's word over that of his own Intel agencies on election interference in front of the whole world at the the G-7 Summit in Helsinki. You don't consider that coddling? He also refused to impose new Russia sanctions despite law passed b y Congress over election hacking.
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Tens of thousands of people have died in Ukraine. They care that Putin decided to invade as soon as Biden was elected.
Please provide the evidence of the Russian election interference in 2016- facts not left wing opinion.
What does that have to do with Trump coddling autocratic leaders including Putin, Kim Jong-un and bin Salman? He took the word of all these thugs over that of his own Intel agencies!
I may as well be a Leftist! The Right is doing the same flip-flop horseshit that the Left usually pulls out of its soiled underwear.
Our new Right-wing philosophy seems to have become: The Bidens back The Ukraine, let's back the Russians.
The Right back the f'n Russians? Are you guys on drugs?
Russian expansion is the biggest threat to world peace since WWII. Putin, KGB Putin is the new hero of the Right, how is this even possible?
Russia must be stopped here. Nobody wants a nuclear war. Nobody wanted war but here it is and the more we do now the less the chance for expansion.
We police the world but hide in the corner when the bully shows up? Welcome WWIII.
Back The Ukraine with all that we've got...short of our troops and nuclear!
We can stop our support when Ukrainian artillery starts to hit Red Square.
Our new Right-wing philosophy seems to have become: The Bidens back The Ukraine, let's back the Russians.
The Right back the f'n Russians? Are you guys on drugs?
Russian expansion is the biggest threat to world peace since WWII. Putin, KGB Putin is the new hero of the Right, how is this even possible?
Russia must be stopped here. Nobody wants a nuclear war. Nobody wanted war but here it is and the more we do now the less the chance for expansion.
We police the world but hide in the corner when the bully shows up? Welcome WWIII.
Back The Ukraine with all that we've got...short of our troops and nuclear!
We can stop our support when Ukrainian artillery starts to hit Red Square.
It has everything to with how Trump dealt with Putin
Trump was hesitant to accuse Putin of any election interference as the press and the intelligence community that he inherited from Obama immediately attempted to connect any interference with Trump . They were peddling the farce that he was complicit in any interference.
The fake Mueller Investigstion, which had no real basis to exist added to this
Trump was handcuffed in dealing with Putin because of these baseless allegations. What was he supposed to do ? Fistfight with Putin?
This entire situation, including the destruction of Ukraine and the death of 1000’s of Ukrainians can be tied directly to the false attack on Trump from the inception of his presidency regarding fake Russian collusion.
Again....we know what happened! We don't know what "woulda, coulda, or shoulda" happened if Trump were president because he lost. What is it you people don't understand? Nobody knows what woulda happened and only Trump supporters say ridiculous shit like this as if the rest of us give a crap! We don't! He lost for a reason! If the American people felt safer with him as president he would have won right? Getting my point now?
You said there was evidence of Russian election interference. I'm just asking you to produce it. You are the one who brought it up.
What's wrong with an open line of communication? With no talk, nothing happens. It doesn't mean that you change your policy towards these criminals.
Fortunately the Senate intelligence committee (then led by Republicans) and the Mueller report both proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that there not only was Russian interference in the 2016 elections, but that it was pervasive and calculated, with the specific intent of getting Donald Trump elected, so Putin didn't have to deal with Hillary Clinton. Once the evidence is in, perhaps its time to admit it instead of continuing to pedal conspiracy narratives divorced from reality.
First of all where did I say that there was no interference in the election. But …
Nobody proved anything beyond a shadow of a doubt anything, particularly that the Russian state was behind any interference. It may have been Russian aligned groups
But assuming that Russian actors , private or state , did employ bots or otherwise engage in actions that opposed Hillary, the media was intent on tying this to Trump. A false narrative. Totally made up .
The fake dossier, the insinuations , all false accusations.
That’s what influenced Trump. Wrongful allegations.
To this day Adam Schiff and his merry band has yet to apologize.
What I really don’t understand is the noise about Trump interfering with the investigation. Of course he should have interfered. It was bogus!
Hillary and the democrats were and are focused on punishing Putin, even though it risks Nuclear war. The endless expenditures being made are based on large part to a payback to Russia for rooting for Hillary.
History has proven them correct, given that Putin has turned out to be a modern day Adolf Hitler (and I don't use that comparison lightly). He's a totalitarian, fascist sitting atop the world's largest stockpile of nukes, all the while invading his neighbors and committing genocide along the way. This is a moment for America to lean forward and lead from the front instead of silently cowering from the rear while Europe crumbles.
