And they all jump on like sheep on a bale of hay....
Ron Desantis
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And they all jump on like sheep on a bale of hay....
I believe the term is “low IQ” 😂
I can’t say that because these snowflake losers report everything to Gary.
Not to mention DeSantis opened Florida for business -thank God- ( was criticized by the left for it ) and California and NY are still shutdown for the most part destroying their economy . You can thank Mutt& Jeff for that
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story...-after-60-minutes-report-vaccines/7090945002/
Its not as simple as "Kerner" said and nothing was kneecapped.
The fact remains, there was zero good policy reason for Publix to become the sole distributor of the vaccine. none They literally pulled it from other vaccine sources. Thinking that the statement from the governor is beneficial is intentionally ignoring those 10% impacted by not being 1 mile from a Publix, a number that strains credulity in Palm Beach County given the western inhabitants of the same. There was an article back in February discussing this in the Herald. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article248872679.html
That article motivated me to get a shot as I have connections and a sig O who lives in Boynton. My shot happened in Jupiter Florida, a place with an average income of $86,027 and the closest medical facility (6.8 miles) from Jupiter Island, the second most expensive town in America with homes starting at 2.8 million. So yep, I pulled some connections and got a shot.
If you are only concerned with the pay for play, I don't care what side your on, your missing the entire point. Thankfully with the ramped up production its moot from a forward looking perspective. But make no mistake about it, this vaccine was used as a political football by this governor on a massive scale and black folks, poor folks or just those vocally anti Disantis were either overlooked or intentionally ommitted.
To bring the point back home, there was NO valid reason to pull the distribution from other locations and make them solely Publix, if you want to argue that Publix should have augmented them, I'm likely to agree, but the level of exclusivity Publix was afforded, literally snatching promised production from ready clinics and hospitals wasn't baffling it was politics.
Read the quote posted above, the complete quote from the Gov. It in no way gives rationale basis why those that were already performing could not continue to perform, nor does it state that those already performing did not raise their hand or even that they were asked. He's not an idiot and that's some Cuomo level splitting of hairs to shape a narrative.
Have at it, I got my jab, hell even folks who called it a hoax on this board have gotten the jab so I'll let yall argue over your whataboutisms.
deuces.
Except for the decision wasn’t even made by the Gov as I understand it.
Dude has no problem with a hospital billing $39,000 to classify a 98 year old with long term diabetes as a Covid death.
And Publix does incur a few costs in providing the shots. The butcher is not administering the shots. The vaccine requires separate and special refrigeration. They are not storing it in the frozen foods case.
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Yeah, like Warren Buffet, giving to lying biden and then biden kills the keystone pipeline. Guess who's railways gets to carry the oil? How bout pelosi's husband's company gets no bid gov contracts. Your an idiot. but that is insulting to idiots.
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lol didnt care when companies gave to obummer, hildawg and lying biden.
Looks like this thread backfired Raoul. But fear not, there will be plenty of hit pieces coming down the pike for you to use as ammunition as long as Desantis continues to roll...
lol, they gave 100k to pubs, 100k to dims and 100k to the urban league.
I think you'd agree that any and every state was new at and trying to find the best and quickest and equitable distribution of vaccines. Now let's put your post and linked articles in context.
Jan 27th it was announced Publix would be a "test" distributor of vaccines ONLY in PB County. They do have pharmacies so it's not like the local foot locker was awarded a contract. They also have the largest footprint of pharmacies in PB County. (Walgreens had already been doing retirement centers)
Health officials less than 48 hours later who had been part of the discussion found issues/short comings with the decision, specifically with poorer underserved communities. The result was a vaccine site was set up in Glades, and additional providers utilized.
48 HOURS! I wish I had a governor that was as attentive. By contrast, mine gave strict stay at home orders while he took his family to his FL mansion and enrolled his daughter in school there.
Florida Director of Emergency Management, a Democrat said he made the Publix decision and 60 Minutes phony agenda was " complete malarky". He offered 60 Minutes an interview to explain- not interested- didn't fit their agenda.
Comm Squad ali too willing. to swallow the bait.
Comm Squad ali too willing. to swallow the bait.
For our citizens especially our elderly the most at risk segment. We were first to vaccinate the most Seniors.
Dude you once again are tripping and speaking in riddles. It's not 10% Pahokee population is 6200. There are numerous Publix that folks from Pahokee can go to including Publix Loxahatchee, Publix Acreage etc. and people from Pahokee drive east on 98 all the time. Yes it's 23 miles. My wife got her appointment first day on Publix covid vaccine website and we live in Hollywood but all booked up so she got her 2 shots in Miami Shores Publix. That's about 13-15 miles away. Those that were performing could have wrapped up Pahokee adult over 65 citizens in about 2 weeks IF THEY WANTED the vaccine. You cite an article from January 29th 1 month after we started vaccines and still far from full rollout. Additionally, you once again fall in the trap of telling us that the folks in western Palm beach County CAN"T do something that we know most can . Assuming they want to. And then you quote some little white girl Commissioner who DIDN"T even attend the meeting! Well not you but your links.
Speaking on this, they already whined to Gary and had my thread about cleaning up the lounge deleted. Lol Lol!!!
Not exactly an intelligent well thought out post.
Raoul is waiting for the new talking points to come out but the media realizes it was wrong and have gone silent hence so does the sheep
for our country.
only the people scared to get a little jab in the arm are the ones that won't be vaccinated by end of summer. also school kids but they will be able to get a shot towards end of summer.
FL has done really good with vaccinations.
It's a vaccine shot.. it's not the fountain of youth lol. Other people just don't believe Covid exist. Not just people that don't want a shot in the arm.
not sure what your point is?
people get vaccinated, we can return to normal life and no more masks. that is the point.
is that not the point of getting the vaccine? so the mask wearing can stop?
Ellu,
Boring night, MLB, NHL and NBA are unwatchable on TV until the playoffs. Not in the mood to binge watch or watch a movie. So bouncing internet sites is where it is at. Caught up on the Gators spring battle for back up punt snapper. So here is a long response to your earlier post regarding the State of Florida's outstanding Governor
IMO your above essay puts an overly high emphasis on politics and optics and grossly underestimates the importance of infrastructure and logistics in an endeavor like this. Especially coming from the backdrop that vaccinations, not just vaccine distribution, are a life or death matter. And that getting as many people vacinated as quickly as possible will save the most lives and therefore must be the over riding goal.
Publix is UNIQUELY qualified to handle this triage level situation in the State of Florida. A year ago, no one had ever seriously planned for or thought of how to rapidly vaccinate millions of Floridians with a vaccine that did not exist for a pandemic that was unknown. To quickly mobilize this wartime level implementation requires an extraordinary rapid organization of logistics, trained medical specialists, distribution, equipment (e,g, refrigerated storage andtransportation), geographic assets, rapid creation and implementation of digital systems and mobilization/coordination/management of a large labor force.
Each of the above subjects are specialties of Publix, for which white papers could be written for all. Let's just take one and condense into a brief paragraph.
The distribution and implementation of the Covid vaccine has significant digital challenges. This endeavor requires a complete and real time digital record of shipments of doses from pharmaceutical manufacturers to Florida distribution. Many IT systems must coordinate. This is not a one size power cord fits into a single tyoe of wall socket endeavor. This process then rolls down the line from Manufacturer to likely multiple warehouses to trucks to many physical locations. At each step each dose of vaccine must be tracked. This is not setting out kegs and cups at a frat party. Multiple people must input this data at each step into various input types (handheld and back office, etc.) that sychronize. Then comes the digital tracking of who gets the vaccine and who gives it. And remember there are eligibility requirements and appointments that must also be accounted for. People could just show up and roll up their sleeve. Then there is transmission of this data to various local, state and federal governmental and medical databases and agencies. This is a huge challenge. I am truly surprised the State has handled the IT side as well as it appears they have.
Publix, by the nature of its business had the frameworks for many of these digital requirements in place. Actually it is remarkable that they have been able to get as much accomplished as quickly as possible. As to the heartburn as to being the sole distributor, Publix was quickly distributing product to CVS and Walgreens, far and away Florida's two largest pharmaceutical retailers. But those two orginations were focused on their distribtion to hospitals and medical facilities. Hospitals and medical facilities do not have their own warehouse capabilities. They rely on just in time providers like CVS and Walgreens. This fact refutes the 60 minutes bogus insinuation that only Publix was involved in putting needles in arms.
As to the evil Publix getting the sole Florida rights, that goes back to meeting the core mission of as many needles in arms as quickly as possible. For the State of Fl;orida to have to work with saymany more IT organizations would have only delayed implementation of vacinations. IT skills of this level do not grow on trees. This is not changing a screen saver stuff I I will refraim from a snarky comparison to lawyers. While Walmart would certainly have the capabilities and has significant retail presence, though not nearly the same level of locations in Florida; I did not see Walmart volunteering for this endeavor. I would imagine that Walmart is heavily involved in other states and their IT stack is full. And I can tell you from personally working within other Walmart/distributor IT data interchange projects, nothing happens quickly at Walmart.
The large scale logistical challenges referenced make Governor Ron DeSantis absolutely the right man at the right time for Florida. His military background in rapid deployments to address new challenges is clearly evident. Watch him at a news conference. He has complete knowledge and command of multiple complex subjects that he can answer on the fly without pre knowledge of the questions or note cards. Can anyone really imagine Biden attempting to personally handle a situation of this complexity and then speak to a hostile press. He would have started drooling and gone into a fetal position.
So now on to the posted article and the dumb little twit Melissa McKinlay. She makes Marjorie Greene look like a Rhodes Scholar. Nothing she said had anything to do with the core issues discussed above. She was just jumping on the political hack bandwagon attempting to raise her profile. She got her lame 15 minutes of fame
And now to the Pahokee issue. I have been to Pahokee on both business and football. Everyone should go to a HS football game in Pahokee. Great people and a great environment. Obviously people want to make a racial issue because there is not a Publix in Pahokee. There is not a Walmart, Winn Dixie, Walgreens , CVS or McDonalds either. Pahokee is an ole time small southern agricultural town. An effective statewide distribution plan for vaccines can not be built around a Pahokee model. But as seen in the link below and as Governor DeSantis said this morning, Pahokee has a strong advocate in his office:
Florida Lottery - Meet The Secretary
I have read that specific accomadations were made for Pahokee and some other areas in western Palm Beach County..
So to conclude Governor DeSantis is doing a great job. 60 minutes, an iconic show when I was growing up, has become a silly little partitsan joke. And Melissa McKinlay should move to North Georgia and run against Marjorie Greene for congress.
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McKinlay is the absolute worst. Her daughter had covid and was partying it up in Orlando while her mom was trying to close every restaurant and bar in the county. Then when her daughter had covid she was hysterical about "blood clots" in her legs which were in fact caused not at all by coivd, but instead from lying in bed for days on end. Which of course McKinlay weaponized to try to gain even more power.Ellu,
Boring night, MLB, NHL and NBA are unwatchable on TV until the playoffs. Not in the mood to binge watch or watch a movie. So bouncing internet sites is where it is at. Caught up on the Gators spring battle for back up punt snapper. So here is a long response to your earlier post regarding the State of Florida's outstanding Governor
IMO your above essay puts an overly high emphasis on politics and optics and grossly underestimates the importance of infrastructure and logistics in an endeavor like this. Especially coming from the backdrop that vaccinations, not just vaccine distribution, are a life or death matter. And that getting as many people vacinated as quickly as possible will save the most lives and therefore must be the over riding goal.
Publix is UNIQUELY qualified to handle this triage level situation in the State of Florida. A year ago, no one had ever seriously planned for or thought of how to rapidly vaccinate millions of Floridians with a vaccine that did not exist for a pandemic that was unknown. To quickly mobilize this wartime level implementation requires an extraordinary rapid organization of logistics, trained medical specialists, distribution, equipment (e,g, refrigerated storage andtransportation), geographic assets, rapid creation and implementation of digital systems and mobilization/coordination/management of a large labor force.
Each of the above subjects are specialties of Publix, for which white papers could be written for all. Let's just take one and condense into a brief paragraph.
The distribution and implementation of the Covid vaccine has significant digital challenges. This endeavor requires a complete and real time digital record of shipments of doses from pharmaceutical manufacturers to Florida distribution. Many IT systems must coordinate. This is not a one size power cord fits into a single tyoe of wall socket endeavor. This process then rolls down the line from Manufacturer to likely multiple warehouses to trucks to many physical locations. At each step each dose of vaccine must be tracked. This is not setting out kegs and cups at a frat party. Multiple people must input this data at each step into various input types (handheld and back office, etc.) that sychronize. Then comes the digital tracking of who gets the vaccine and who gives it. And remember there are eligibility requirements and appointments that must also be accounted for. People could just show up and roll up their sleeve. Then there is transmission of this data to various local, state and federal governmental and medical databases and agencies. This is a huge challenge. I am truly surprised the State has handled the IT side as well as it appears they have.
Publix, by the nature of its business had the frameworks for many of these digital requirements in place. Actually it is remarkable that they have been able to get as much accomplished as quickly as possible. As to the heartburn as to being the sole distributor, Publix was quickly distributing product to CVS and Walgreens, far and away Florida's two largest pharmaceutical retailers. But those two orginations were focused on their distribtion to hospitals and medical facilities. Hospitals and medical facilities do not have their own warehouse capabilities. They rely on just in time providers like CVS and Walgreens. This fact refutes the 60 minutes bogus insinuation that only Publix was involved in putting needles in arms.
As to the evil Publix getting the sole Florida rights, that goes back to meeting the core mission of as many needles in arms as quickly as possible. For the State of Fl;orida to have to work with saymany more IT organizations would have only delayed implementation of vacinations. IT skills of this level do not grow on trees. This is not changing a screen saver stuff I I will refraim from a snarky comparison to lawyers. While Walmart would certainly have the capabilities and has significant retail presence, though not nearly the same level of locations in Florida; I did not see Walmart volunteering for this endeavor. I would imagine that Walmart is heavily involved in other states and their IT stack is full. And I can tell you from personally working within other Walmart/distributor IT data interchange projects, nothing happens quickly at Walmart.
The large scale logistical challenges referenced make Governor Ron DeSantis absolutely the right man at the right time for Florida. His military background in rapid deployments to address new challenges is clearly evident. Watch him at a news conference. He has complete knowledge and command of multiple complex subjects that he can answer on the fly without pre knowledge of the questions or note cards. Can anyone really imagine Biden attempting to personally handle a situation of this complexity and then speak to a hostile press. He would have started drooling and gone into a fetal position.
So now on to the posted article and the dumb little twit Melissa McKinlay. She makes Marjorie Greene look like a Rhodes Scholar. Nothing she said had anything to do with the core issues discussed above. She was just jumping on the political hack bandwagon attempting to raise her profile. She got her lame 15 minutes of fame
And now to the Pahokee issue. I have been to Pahokee on both business and football. Everyone should go to a HS football game in Pahokee. Great people and a great environment. Obviously people want to make a racial issue because there is not a Publix in Pahokee. There is not a Walmart, Winn Dixie, Walgreens , CVS or McDonalds either. Pahokee is an ole time small southern agricultural town. An effective statewide distribution plan for vaccines can not be built around a Pahokee model. But as seen in the link below and as Governor DeSantis said this morning, Pahokee has a strong advocate in his office:
Florida Lottery - Meet The Secretary
www.flalottery.com
I have read that specific accomadations were made for Pahokee and some other areas in western Palm Beach County..
So to conclude Governor DeSantis is doing a great job. 60 minutes, an iconic show when I was growing up, has become a silly little partitsan joke. And Melissa McKinlay should move to North Georgia and run against Marjorie Greene for congress.
Can't wait for her to disappear as she has no chance at moving up in politics.
What happened to raoul Crickets .... come on the sheep got nothing. They can’t respond until their great leadership on msm and the dems speak their incapable of self thinking.
These guys only can debate you on line that way they can copy and paste never try and formulate their own opinion always just Pete and repeat...if these guys had to sit down at a table and debate any issues they would look like lying hideing fumbling and don’t forget tumbling the great Joe Biden whose running for the senate. They would have binders and notes and their iPads and smartphones to try and figure out a response. Sad
By the way iPads and smartphones are the results of free market and capitalism all the great technology they enjoy are a direct result of Capitalism and free markets they despise .
Theyobviously hate free thinkers because they succeed at a high level. Which they call privilege. Because they’ve been convinced that the politicians that have been promising them everything they envy that others have for 50 years and haven’t given them is still coming... lmfao 🤣
Totally insane they believe everything the left tells them no questions asked.
These guys only can debate you on line that way they can copy and paste never try and formulate their own opinion always just Pete and repeat...if these guys had to sit down at a table and debate any issues they would look like lying hideing fumbling and don’t forget tumbling the great Joe Biden whose running for the senate. They would have binders and notes and their iPads and smartphones to try and figure out a response. Sad
By the way iPads and smartphones are the results of free market and capitalism all the great technology they enjoy are a direct result of Capitalism and free markets they despise .
Theyobviously hate free thinkers because they succeed at a high level. Which they call privilege. Because they’ve been convinced that the politicians that have been promising them everything they envy that others have for 50 years and haven’t given them is still coming... lmfao 🤣
Totally insane they believe everything the left tells them no questions asked.
He's waiting for CNN, MSNBC,NYT , etc. to tell him what to say and think.
Don't be so vague, try and be a man for once in your life.........Ask whats on your mind............At least then, I would have an iota of respect for you.................I would really like to answer your question if you ask what you really mean........Balls in your court
That's a good one. Reminds me how all of you wait for Foxnews to tell YOU what to say and think. I hope they survive their billion dollar lawsuits.
What else is there to say. The info has been out there even before the 60 minutes piece. I'm sure we will know more after the inevitable DOJ investigation.
60 Minutes has moved on. They've scored a hot tip on Trump colluding with the Russians to win the 2016 election. Look Out!
Sorry to inform you but Desantis is likely to SUE CBS as he said yesterday in his press conference.
Taking legal advice from Trump is never a good idea. He has no recourse since everything they published was accurate. He may not like their narrative or editing skills, but they are on solid ground for the story since they published interviews and campaign finance receipts to back up their claims.
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It can not be accurate when the Mayor and Health Official, both Democrats say it's bullshyt. Only you Raoul the fool still believe it.
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