3 members of the 1972 Dolphins....Gotta love this
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2013, who gives a shit about the 72 dolphins anyway...what's the point in inviting them...
We have three major classes of people in this country.
(1)Freedom loving conservatives who are more likely to work hard ,pay taxes and respect the constitution.(2) Liberal drones who dream of a utopia because of the disenchantment in their own lives usually associated with childhood issues(Obama Clinton and Harry Reed all were abandoned by their fathers.) (3) Those economically dependent on Unions or the federal government for their subsistence.
The reason Obama got reelected is that class 3 is rapidly expanding because of policies instituted by the democrats.It had nothing to do with a sane or rational economic policy.
As unemployment and deficits climb category 3 wont change their vote until their cash cow gets removed. As the economy moves towards collapse that will happen. Union pensioners partying in places like The Villages at age 56 while their states are going bankrupt will soon find themselves in double wides.
(1)Freedom loving conservatives who are more likely to work hard ,pay taxes and respect the constitution.(2) Liberal drones who dream of a utopia because of the disenchantment in their own lives usually associated with childhood issues(Obama Clinton and Harry Reed all were abandoned by their fathers.) (3) Those economically dependent on Unions or the federal government for their subsistence.
The reason Obama got reelected is that class 3 is rapidly expanding because of policies instituted by the democrats.It had nothing to do with a sane or rational economic policy.
As unemployment and deficits climb category 3 wont change their vote until their cash cow gets removed. As the economy moves towards collapse that will happen. Union pensioners partying in places like The Villages at age 56 while their states are going bankrupt will soon find themselves in double wides.
This did not belong on this message board, because it only gives the usual racist,bbcane lovethugu and watercane a forum to spew their cowardly hate towards another human being. Whether you like it or not girls, he's YOUR PRESIDENT, AND YOU WILL FOLLOW HIS ORDERS. AND THERE'S NOT A DAMN THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.LOL!!!
We have three major classes of people in this country.
(1)Freedom loving conservatives who are more likely to work hard ,pay
taxes and respect the constitution.(2) Liberal drones who dream of a
utopia because of the disenchantment in their own lives usually
associated with childhood issues(Obama Clinton and Harry Reed all were
abandoned by their fathers.) (3) Those economically dependent on Unions
or the federal government for their subsistence.
The
reason Obama got reelected is that class 3 is rapidly expanding
because of policies instituted by the democrats.It had nothing to do
with a sane or rational economic policy.
As unemployment
and deficits climb category 3 wont change their vote until their cash
cow gets removed. As the economy moves towards collapse that will
happen. Union pensioners partying in places like The Villages at age 56
while their states are going bankrupt will soon find themselves in
double wides.
^^^^^
If this is the best argument conservatives have as to why they lost election, they're in trouble.Quite pathetic.
This is what conservatives tell themselves to justify a weak ideology that has lost 2 elections..despite the fact that obama won a higher percentage of asians(highest education rates, moral and social conservatives, financially stable) than romney. Despite the fact that obama won a higher percentage of college educated people..lol 51% of the country are nothing but a bunch of disenchanted, government dependent, union loving, fools....
(1)Freedom loving conservatives who are more likely to work hard ,pay
taxes and respect the constitution.(2) Liberal drones who dream of a
utopia because of the disenchantment in their own lives usually
associated with childhood issues(Obama Clinton and Harry Reed all were
abandoned by their fathers.) (3) Those economically dependent on Unions
or the federal government for their subsistence.
The
reason Obama got reelected is that class 3 is rapidly expanding
because of policies instituted by the democrats.It had nothing to do
with a sane or rational economic policy.
As unemployment
and deficits climb category 3 wont change their vote until their cash
cow gets removed. As the economy moves towards collapse that will
happen. Union pensioners partying in places like The Villages at age 56
while their states are going bankrupt will soon find themselves in
double wides.
^^^^^
If this is the best argument conservatives have as to why they lost election, they're in trouble.Quite pathetic.
This is what conservatives tell themselves to justify a weak ideology that has lost 2 elections..despite the fact that obama won a higher percentage of asians(highest education rates, moral and social conservatives, financially stable) than romney. Despite the fact that obama won a higher percentage of college educated people..lol 51% of the country are nothing but a bunch of disenchanted, government dependent, union loving, fools....
Goon,
Ever stop and think that maybe all those "freebies" you mentioned (food stamps, cell phones, etc, etc.) given to people who haven't WORKED FOR THEM may be a major factor in our "financial crisis"?
If you think for one minute that the last election wasn't "bought and paid for" by the current administration, then you just haven't been paying attention. The deciding votes in the last election came from the "takers" of our society, not from those who've worked for everything they've gotten. They wanted their "Obummer Dollars".
Ever stop and think that maybe all those "freebies" you mentioned (food stamps, cell phones, etc, etc.) given to people who haven't WORKED FOR THEM may be a major factor in our "financial crisis"?
If you think for one minute that the last election wasn't "bought and paid for" by the current administration, then you just haven't been paying attention. The deciding votes in the last election came from the "takers" of our society, not from those who've worked for everything they've gotten. They wanted their "Obummer Dollars".
Follow his orders? I didn't know he was annointed King. BTW I hated Al Gore,did not care for Kerry, but not being a fan of comrade Obummer makes me a racist...ok.
As I said earlier in the thread, I don't feel like going back and forth with half wits today.Enjoy the free shit Obummer got for you with tax payer money.Bye.
sunnidownni. are you crazy?
do you not remember how the financial crises happened?
bad trading practices on wall street in the housing market..the crash of the automobile industry?...decline in manufacturing and corporate outsourcing of jobs.
the food stamps and "free" stuff conservatives obsess over were supposed to be chump change given to the poor if trickle down politics worked properly...and do you realize that if food stamp funding stopped that republican/conservative/southern/rural areas would be the most affected...yea a higher "percentage" of people in the ghetto use food stamps..but the "actual number" of people who use food stamps is higher in red states.
its crazy that the second the government doesn't use taxes the way certain people want,then everyone on the other side of the spectrum are just takers..or as o 'reilly put it..."people who want stuff".
do you not remember how the financial crises happened?
bad trading practices on wall street in the housing market..the crash of the automobile industry?...decline in manufacturing and corporate outsourcing of jobs.
the food stamps and "free" stuff conservatives obsess over were supposed to be chump change given to the poor if trickle down politics worked properly...and do you realize that if food stamp funding stopped that republican/conservative/southern/rural areas would be the most affected...yea a higher "percentage" of people in the ghetto use food stamps..but the "actual number" of people who use food stamps is higher in red states.
its crazy that the second the government doesn't use taxes the way certain people want,then everyone on the other side of the spectrum are just takers..or as o 'reilly put it..."people who want stuff".
This is one of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen on here. Let's just stick with facts. First, if you want to be honest and look at the real issues, the real unemployment rate when Obama was sworn into office in January 2009 was 14.2 (inherited from Bush) today it is 14.0. Second, the states that receive the most federal assistance are typically your states that are conservative, so they are paying less taxes then your Liberal utopias. Republican states typically receive $1.46 dollars for every $1 they contribute (tax) while Democratic states typically receive $1.16 for every $1 they contribute (tax). Economy is growing albeit it slowly, investors are making a killing right now, guess you didn't notice the NASDAQ has doubled since Obama's been in administration so any talk of a collapse is absurd. Bureau of Labor and Statistics has said Obama at the end of his first term has added a net total of 1.2 million jobs. Bush at the end of his 8 year term had a net total of 1.0 million. Unemployment rates are virtually even between the two.
From someone who is in the middle, the problem with the right is that it has been broken off into two pieces. The extreme right and the moderate right. Unfortunately the moderate right can't stand up to the extreme right; therefore, it'll be a long time before they win another national election. They'll continue to win local elections because of gerrymandering but won't be a major factor on a national level.Half of Obama's policies are from the right; however, since they don't want to help him, they've filibustered more than any other Congress in history. This only hurts the American people. Your 1st point is crazy because you act like only Conservatives want freedom, like to work and pay taxes. That's like saying only those on the right are Christians and believe in Jesus as well. If they are, I'm not sure why they oppose everything that helps the poor.
The honest truth is this country is divided into two classes, the Rich and the Poor. The middle class has been eroding away for years. Those that have make the laws to ensure they get more. Those that don't are marginalized.
This post was edited on 8/22 12:54 PM by hsj3
This post was edited on 8/22 12:54 PM by hsj3
These types of threads are always sad.
There are many, many websites and forums for this kind "discussion" which is always divisive and full of ignorant vitriol from both sides.
Can we please have respect for the intent of this board, and those of us who come on here to get away from this kind of garbage and just stick to the Canes?
Honestly?
There are many, many websites and forums for this kind "discussion" which is always divisive and full of ignorant vitriol from both sides.
Can we please have respect for the intent of this board, and those of us who come on here to get away from this kind of garbage and just stick to the Canes?
Honestly?
Actually these 3 guys are good for our political system. They have the right to speak their mind and they should. It's not polarizing at all. It proves what this system is all about. You can speak your mind freely and still walk the streets. That can't be said in many if not most countries.
If that is what they believe, then I applaud them for being true to themselves. Those who are downing them may in fact be the "bitter old men" but I applaud you as well even though I disagree with you.e
If that is what they believe, then I applaud them for being true to themselves. Those who are downing them may in fact be the "bitter old men" but I applaud you as well even though I disagree with you.e
Nah. I feel that I'm above it all, today. Stay tuned, Flanigans Bal Harbor tomorrow night, @ Fins game Saturday and going to host a few ppl on Sunday night for MLB game. I'll be tuned up all three days. I promise not to disappoint you.Originally posted by porky3100:
Or yours.Originally posted by honeyiv:
The Pink Elephant in the room is the anticipation of Flea's comments...
Say what? I am not invited?Originally posted by honeyiv:
Nah. I feel that I'm above it all, today. Stay tuned, Flanigans Bal Harbor tomorrow night, @ Fins game Saturday and going to host a few ppl on Sunday night for MLB game. I'll be tuned up all three days. I promise not to disappoint you.Originally posted by porky3100:
Or yours.Originally posted by honeyiv:
The Pink Elephant in the room is the anticipation of Flea's comments...
I don't think anyone is against them speaking their mind and expressing their 1st amendment rights. What I think people are baffled by is how 3 old men can't set aside their political differences for a once in a life time opportunity. I have friends that are Republican, Democrat, Independent, Christian, Atheist, etc Just because we don't believe the same thing or have the same views on everything, doesn't mean I shun you or can't hang out with you. That's a really narrow minded individual. I don't care who is in office, he could be a grad from FSU or UF....LOL If he's the President and I get an opportunity to meet him and take a picture, I'm there.
They look horrible. It is not an endorsement of the President. It is the White House and it is an honor from the office. You go. I am sorry some people don't see it that way, but they embarrassed themselves. If George W Bush or B H Obama is THE President and you get an invite to a nonpolitical event, you go with respect. NOBODY thinks this is an endorsement. This is part of the problem in this nation: people just don't respect the office the way they should. NOBODY think George HW Bush agrees with the President on much, but when he was honored he showed up. I know A TON of Republicans down here that could not believe it. It was a mistake plain and simple. Show respect for the office, it is not like anyone thinks Don Shula AGREES with the President bc he gave him a jersey. But he knows how to show the appropriate respect for the office.
You should try to get to Varkas' gate, especially for the Ice Luge vs UF. We'll down a few.Originally posted by porky3100:
Say what? I am not invited?Originally posted by honeyiv:
Nah. I feel that I'm above it all, today. Stay tuned, Flanigans Bal Harbor tomorrow night, @ Fins game Saturday and going to host a few ppl on Sunday night for MLB game. I'll be tuned up all three days. I promise not to disappoint you.Originally posted by porky3100:
Or yours.Originally posted by honeyiv:
The Pink Elephant in the room is the anticipation of Flea's comments...
I won't be down for the UF game for for sure another home gameOriginally posted by honeyiv:
You should try to get to Varkas' gate, especially for the Ice Luge vs UF. We'll down a few.Originally posted by porky3100:
Say what? I am not invited?Originally posted by honeyiv:
Nah. I feel that I'm above it all, today. Stay tuned, Flanigans Bal Harbor tomorrow night, @ Fins game Saturday and going to host a few ppl on Sunday night for MLB game. I'll be tuned up all three days. I promise not to disappoint you.Originally posted by porky3100:
Or yours.Originally posted by honeyiv:
The Pink Elephant in the room is the anticipation of Flea's comments...
Man, even this thread gets political. That's nonsense. If you get invited to the White House because you won a championship (and in this case went undefeated) you put your politics aside and go. It's not about politics, it's about honoring the only undefeated team in NFL history. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Both Shula and Ross (the current owner) are big Republican fundraisers, but they went up there and had a great time. And that's the way it should be.
PS - If you are wondering why the 1972 Dolphins were invited to the WH now, it's because that tradition didn't exist until Reagan became president and began honoring both college and pro teams that were champs. I say, put the politics aside and enjoy the moment. Do you know how many teams NEVER get invited to the White House? Think about that for a while. Hopefully our Canes will be invited after the 2014 season.
Both Shula and Ross (the current owner) are big Republican fundraisers, but they went up there and had a great time. And that's the way it should be.
PS - If you are wondering why the 1972 Dolphins were invited to the WH now, it's because that tradition didn't exist until Reagan became president and began honoring both college and pro teams that were champs. I say, put the politics aside and enjoy the moment. Do you know how many teams NEVER get invited to the White House? Think about that for a while. Hopefully our Canes will be invited after the 2014 season.
hsj3-LOL "3 old men". I'm 36, turn 37 this year. Not engaging half wits in a back and forth today sorry. That is all.
Alanpen- Great post.
Alanpen- Great post.
You got me there. Steve,bb and myself were taking incoming fire from every direction.I barely skimmed through your post and assumed you were referring to us. You got me.
This post was edited on 8/22 2:35 PM by LoveTHUGU
This post was edited on 8/22 2:35 PM by LoveTHUGU
Goon
Spare yourself the stress. U r arguing with bitter, miserable old white guys (im a middle aged white guy myself so I recognize the species). They don't have facts, they have right wing hate radio facts sprinkled in with some FOX "news"
The best comment U made (which happens to be ......drum roll.....a FACT) is the majority of food stamps, public aid is poor whites in poor southern states (think SEC)....ie: the GOP base.
and 9 of the 10 most educated states (per US census) are predominantly Democratic voting states. NY, Cali, Mass ect ect
They hate that and don't like it bc FACTS are not their friends.....its sooooo much easier AND MORE COMFORTING for them to think "the only reason my life sucks is bc all these black n brown n immigrant are getting free stuff off my hard work"
Makes em feel better about themselves and their shit lives
Forget they r fine with their tax deductions, corp deductions, corp welfare, soc sec, medicare when their old.....that's all OK bc THEY deserve it........everyone else is a taker.
Don't waste your time and especially don't bother with THUG.....for real, no palyin, he is a real animal, a real miserable angry piece of shit.
Spare yourself the stress. U r arguing with bitter, miserable old white guys (im a middle aged white guy myself so I recognize the species). They don't have facts, they have right wing hate radio facts sprinkled in with some FOX "news"
The best comment U made (which happens to be ......drum roll.....a FACT) is the majority of food stamps, public aid is poor whites in poor southern states (think SEC)....ie: the GOP base.
and 9 of the 10 most educated states (per US census) are predominantly Democratic voting states. NY, Cali, Mass ect ect
They hate that and don't like it bc FACTS are not their friends.....its sooooo much easier AND MORE COMFORTING for them to think "the only reason my life sucks is bc all these black n brown n immigrant are getting free stuff off my hard work"
Makes em feel better about themselves and their shit lives
Forget they r fine with their tax deductions, corp deductions, corp welfare, soc sec, medicare when their old.....that's all OK bc THEY deserve it........everyone else is a taker.
Don't waste your time and especially don't bother with THUG.....for real, no palyin, he is a real animal, a real miserable angry piece of shit.
Kerem, your right man..ill calm down and just let them have their own opinions.Shouldn't have even entertained this political stuff on a message board about canes football...facts don't seem to work well with them...advice well taken..thanks
Hi Karen. That was sweet. Sorry to break it to you but neither you or Rachel Maddow are men just because you wish you were.
Go make me a sandwich, make your self useful as long as you're going to follow me around like a lost puppy.
Go make me a sandwich, make your self useful as long as you're going to follow me around like a lost puppy.
It's funny how the same posters find their way into these threads and argue like crazy.
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Let them be childish and stay home. Put politics aside and man up. I don't think Obama will miss those clowns!
Most people are Democrats when they just get out of school.....You can afford to be idealistic and "want to change the world"...then you start working for a living...and working,and working...all the while people around you AREN'T.......... then you start realizing you are the one paying to :CHANGE THE WORLD" .......Then you become a fiscal conservative because you see the government just wasting your hard earned money and throwing it away to people that want to sit on their ass.....They are all crooked, both parties suck..... Soon the well will run dry and we will not be giving any more "FREE STUFF" because we will be broke. they will devalue the dollar, world market will be based on the yen....
the 42 % (taxpayers) will no longer be able to support the 58% (government handouts) and we will fold like a bad poker hand.
I normally dont get caught up in politics , but until YOU have paid the bill, Your opinion is without merit.
the 42 % (taxpayers) will no longer be able to support the 58% (government handouts) and we will fold like a bad poker hand.
I normally dont get caught up in politics , but until YOU have paid the bill, Your opinion is without merit.
Had Ronald "Thatcher" Reagan celebrated my accomplishments in the White House during the 1980s, I'd like to think I'd smile, shake his hand and thank him for acknowledging me.
Not difficult if you're anything above a ****.
Not difficult if you're anything above a ****.
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