A message for all the COVID Karens on the board

[kamco360]

In light of the recent news rather than mass panic we should actually be doing back flips and cheering about how well we have progressed with this epidemic. If you look at the statistics of recent weeks there is a ton of great news out there. The WHO says that the average lapse of diagnosis to a persons death is 18 days so lets have a look at the data

May 2-7 is the first week that lockdown orders were lifted in Florida and that week we had a total of 334 Covid deaths reported. 18 days prior on April 14-20th there were just shy of 5700 cases reported which means that the correlated deaths for this period is approximately .6% of diagnosed cased resulting in deaths.

Fast forward to this last weeks death toll for July 1-6 and you will find a total of 330 deaths (an improvement) against a total of 15,700 diagnosed cases for the week of June 13-19th. Do the math and you will find that the fatality rate is a mere .2% or in other words about the same as the flu.

Now you say what about the fact that in the last week there have been 60,200 cases diagnosed. Again do the math and at .2% fatality rate we will find that in about 10 days the seven day average may jump to about 500-1500 and will likely decline steadily thereafter. The reason for the range is that a great deal of the diagnoses have been people under the age of 50 and therefore extremely unlikely to die from the disease which could bring the overall fatality rate to below .1%. If the fatality rate just holds then we will see 1 or 2 bad weeks of 1000+ deaths and then rapid decline correlating with lower case rates.

In all these numbers are great news as it shows that the disease with are new understandings of treatment (i.e. dexamethasone, hydroxychloroquine, lying patients prone, etc.) has lowered the deadliness of this disease to about the same as a bad flu season. The world was caught off guard and has improved its understanding of this disease and how to handle it and hopefully politicians will follow and get things moving again, starting with students in school in August and most importantly MIAMI HURRICANE FOOTBALL ON SEPTEMBER 5TH!

 

[kamco360]

One other thing worth mentioning, to all the people on the board and in the media trashing Desantis while praising Cuomo, please spare us the nonsense. To anyone who can't understand basic math Florida has 30,000 fewer deaths than New York with an almost identical population, and the only reason its not identical is that Florida has 3 million more seniors aka vulnerable people. Even if there is a spike to 1000 deaths a week in Florida (highly unlikely for any sustained period of time) and New York drops to zero deaths it would take until February 2021 for Florida to eclipse the NY death toll. Desantis has done a fine job of protecting the vulnerable while sparing mass economic destruction of the blue states draconian lock down measures.

 

[CashvilleCane1]

In light of the recent news rather than mass panic we should actually be doing back flips and cheering about how well we have progressed with this epidemic. If you look at the statistics of recent weeks there is a ton of great news out there. The WHO says that the average lapse of diagnosis to a persons death is 18 days so lets have a look at the data

May 2-7 is the first week that lockdown orders were lifted in Florida and that week we had a total of 334 Covid deaths reported. 18 days prior on April 14-20th there were just shy of 5700 cases reported which means that the correlated deaths for this period is approximately .6% of diagnosed cased resulting in deaths.

Fast forward to this last weeks death toll for July 1-6 and you will find a total of 330 deaths (an improvement) against a total of 15,700 diagnosed cases for the week of June 13-19th. Do the math and you will find that the fatality rate is a mere .2% or in other words about the same as the flu.

Now you say what about the fact that in the last week there have been 60,200 cases diagnosed. Again do the math and at .2% fatality rate we will find that in about 10 days the seven day average may jump to about 500-1500 and will likely decline steadily thereafter. The reason for the range is that a great deal of the diagnoses have been people under the age of 50 and therefore extremely unlikely to die from the disease which could bring the overall fatality rate to below .1%. If the fatality rate just holds then we will see 1 or 2 bad weeks of 1000+ deaths and then rapid decline correlating with lower case rates.

In all these numbers are great news as it shows that the disease with are new understandings of treatment (i.e. dexamethasone, hydroxychloroquine, lying patients prone, etc.) has lowered the deadliness of this disease to about the same as a bad flu season. The world was caught off guard and has improved its understanding of this disease and how to handle it and hopefully politicians will follow and get things moving again, starting with students in school in August and most importantly MIAMI HURRICANE FOOTBALL ON SEPTEMBER 5TH!

Lmao COVID Karen’s, Im f’ing dying lol

 

[801canesmxer]

It's much easier to act like a Karen than to admit that they were lied to yet again. This virus is much closer to the flu than the Bubonic Plague that they were so hoping for.

 

[bobbie jo]

In light of the recent news rather than mass panic we should actually be doing back flips and cheering about how well we have progressed with this epidemic. If you look at the statistics of recent weeks there is a ton of great news out there. The WHO says that the average lapse of diagnosis to a persons death is 18 days so lets have a look at the data

May 2-7 is the first week that lockdown orders were lifted in Florida and that week we had a total of 334 Covid deaths reported. 18 days prior on April 14-20th there were just shy of 5700 cases reported which means that the correlated deaths for this period is approximately .6% of diagnosed cased resulting in deaths.

Fast forward to this last weeks death toll for July 1-6 and you will find a total of 330 deaths (an improvement) against a total of 15,700 diagnosed cases for the week of June 13-19th. Do the math and you will find that the fatality rate is a mere .2% or in other words about the same as the flu.

Now you say what about the fact that in the last week there have been 60,200 cases diagnosed. Again do the math and at .2% fatality rate we will find that in about 10 days the seven day average may jump to about 500-1500 and will likely decline steadily thereafter. The reason for the range is that a great deal of the diagnoses have been people under the age of 50 and therefore extremely unlikely to die from the disease which could bring the overall fatality rate to below .1%. If the fatality rate just holds then we will see 1 or 2 bad weeks of 1000+ deaths and then rapid decline correlating with lower case rates.

In all these numbers are great news as it shows that the disease with are new understandings of treatment (i.e. dexamethasone, hydroxychloroquine, lying patients prone, etc.) has lowered the deadliness of this disease to about the same as a bad flu season. The world was caught off guard and has improved its understanding of this disease and how to handle it and hopefully politicians will follow and get things moving again, starting with students in school in August and most importantly MIAMI HURRICANE FOOTBALL ON SEPTEMBER 5TH!

Nothing but the truth. But politicians will not they rather see mass destruction of the economy so the communist globalization can try to gain power.

 

[BreakingCane]

One other thing worth mentioning, to all the people on the board and in the media trashing Desantis while praising Cuomo, please spare us the nonsense. To anyone who can't understand basic math Florida has 30,000 fewer deaths than New York with an almost identical population, and the only reason its not identical is that Florida has 3 million more seniors aka vulnerable people. Even if there is a spike to 1000 deaths a week in Florida (highly unlikely for any sustained period of time) and New York drops to zero deaths it would take until February 2021 for Florida to eclipse the NY death toll. Desantis has done a fine job of protecting the vulnerable while sparing mass economic destruction of the blue states draconian lock down measures.

Ouch. You’re gonna trigger all of our Covid Karens like @MikeJW @dmatt @lou97 @PHILCANE and many others!

 

[kamco360]

Lmao COVID Karen’s, Im f’ing dying lol

I think it is fitting that these would be do-gooders have an appropraite nickname.

 

[dmatt]

In light of the recent news rather than mass panic we should actually be doing back flips and cheering about how well we have progressed with this epidemic. If you look at the statistics of recent weeks there is a ton of great news out there. The WHO says that the average lapse of diagnosis to a persons death is 18 days so lets have a look at the data

May 2-7 is the first week that lockdown orders were lifted in Florida and that week we had a total of 334 Covid deaths reported. 18 days prior on April 14-20th there were just shy of 5700 cases reported which means that the correlated deaths for this period is approximately .6% of diagnosed cased resulting in deaths.

Fast forward to this last weeks death toll for July 1-6 and you will find a total of 330 deaths (an improvement) against a total of 15,700 diagnosed cases for the week of June 13-19th. Do the math and you will find that the fatality rate is a mere .2% or in other words about the same as the flu.

Now you say what about the fact that in the last week there have been 60,200 cases diagnosed. Again do the math and at .2% fatality rate we will find that in about 10 days the seven day average may jump to about 500-1500 and will likely decline steadily thereafter. The reason for the range is that a great deal of the diagnoses have been people under the age of 50 and therefore extremely unlikely to die from the disease which could bring the overall fatality rate to below .1%. If the fatality rate just holds then we will see 1 or 2 bad weeks of 1000+ deaths and then rapid decline correlating with lower case rates.

In all these numbers are great news as it shows that the disease with are new understandings of treatment (i.e. dexamethasone, hydroxychloroquine, lying patients prone, etc.) has lowered the deadliness of this disease to about the same as a bad flu season. The world was caught off guard and has improved its understanding of this disease and how to handle it and hopefully politicians will follow and get things moving again, starting with students in school in August and most importantly MIAMI HURRICANE FOOTBALL ON SEPTEMBER 5TH!

The information you are receiving from Donald J Trump,..A man with a 4th grade vocabulary, who cheated on his SAT’s is wrong....We are still in the midst of the 1st wave and this virus is not letting up..The number of cases, which will be followed by a new wave of hospitalizations is increasing exponentially...Ask the Baltimore Ravens if it’s over and other Professional Teams if it’s no longer a problem...Stop being a AntiMa and come back to reality.

 

[kamco360]

The information you are receiving from Donald J Trump,..A man with a 4th grade vocabulary, who cheated on his SAT’s is wrong....We are still in the midst of the 1st wave and this virus is not letting up..The number of cases, which will be followed by a new wave of hospitalizations is increasing exponentially...Ask the Baltimore Ravens if it’s over and other Professional Teams if it’s no longer a problem...Stop being a AntiMa and come back to reality.

I offer up well researched facts and you come back with childish nonsense about our President's SAT score from 60 years ago, who is the one floating in an imaginary world. Fact is deaths both in numbers and overall mortality are steadily declining and although there will be a small uptick for the next week or so we will continue to see these numbers diminish. I'll stick to the facts Karen and you can stay hidden under your bed. Don't worry the men will let you know when its safe to come out.

 

[Raoul2]

One other thing worth mentioning, to all the people on the board and in the media trashing Desantis while praising Cuomo, please spare us the nonsense. To anyone who can't understand basic math Florida has 30,000 fewer deaths than New York with an almost identical population, and the only reason its not identical is that Florida has 3 million more seniors aka vulnerable people. Even if there is a spike to 1000 deaths a week in Florida (highly unlikely for any sustained period of time) and New York drops to zero deaths it would take until February 2021 for Florida to eclipse the NY death toll. Desantis has done a fine job of protecting the vulnerable while sparing mass economic destruction of the blue states draconian lock down measures.

He's done a fine job in doing precisely the opposite. As other states are opening back up and resuming normal operations - DeSantis, by privileging profit over health, now finds himself in a situation where he is going to have to close down again, and in the process, further delay economic recovery. It takes a lot of talent to be this rampantly incompetent.

 

[kamco360]

He's done a fine job in doing precisely the opposite. As other states are opening back up and resuming normal operations - DeSantis, by privileging profit over health, now finds himself in a situation where he is going to have to close down again, and in the process, further delay economic recovery. It takes a lot of talent to be this rampantly incompetent.

There will be no reclosure of the state as more than 2/3 of the recent positive test surge are people under 50 there will be no spike in the death toll and things will still remain open and even bars and theaters will be back online by August. As for his blue state counter parts most have still barely reopened and have caused irreversible economic damage to their states. Look at New Jersey, Illinois and California, those states have not even allowed diners back into restaurants and yet they are experiencing the same surge as we are. Desantis struck a great balance by protecting nursing homes where people are actually vulnerable to this disease, while allowing the economy to remain as functional as possible. Two years from now blue states will still be crushed by the economic impact of this, while states like Texas, Florida and Georgia will be booming. The good news is Blue state economic refugees can always move here.

 

[cdwright40]

One other thing worth mentioning, to all the people on the board and in the media trashing Desantis while praising Cuomo, please spare us the nonsense. To anyone who can't understand basic math Florida has 30,000 fewer deaths than New York with an almost identical population, and the only reason its not identical is that Florida has 3 million more seniors aka vulnerable people. Even if there is a spike to 1000 deaths a week in Florida (highly unlikely for any sustained period of time) and New York drops to zero deaths it would take until February 2021 for Florida to eclipse the NY death toll. Desantis has done a fine job of protecting the vulnerable while sparing mass economic destruction of the blue states draconian lock down measures.

LMAO....Please.

If you do a good job of flattening the curve you deserve credit. If you do a horrible job you get the business.

I don't really care about this identity political BS. Desantis has done a horrible job.....so no we aren't going to stop saying he is doing a horrible job when he is. It honestly doesn't matter what someone else is doing. We say Desantis is doing a horrible job if he is. Cuomo has nothing to do with that.

Also our president is doing a horrible job. We have 25% of the worlds Covid Cases and Deaths but only 4% of the worlds population.

 

[kamco360]

LMAO....Please.

If you do a good job of flattening the curve you deserve credit. If you do a horrible job you get the business.

I don't really care about this identity political BS. Desantis has done a horrible job.....so no we aren't going to stop saying he is doing a horrible job when he is. It honestly doesn't matter what someone else is doing. We say Desantis is doing a horrible job if he is. Cuomo has nothing to do with that.

Also our president is doing a horrible job. We have 25% of the worlds Covid Cases and Deaths but only 4% of the worlds population.

First, I will go by stats and Florida has under 200 deaths per 1M people which ranks us somewhere in the middle of the US states. Given that Florida has the largest percentage of seniors of any state in the nation and add to it the fact that we have 4 metros with over 2M people and we are a major tourist destination both locally and internationally, then yes I would say this is a huge success. As for decisions, the one action that Desantis took was early in March he secured nursing homes which prevented the wildfire of deaths that happened in New York from occurring here. This disease will spread through the population no matter what actions are taking so him securing the most vulnerable early likely spared our state thousands of deaths. Cuomo put the most vulnerable at risk by allowing the infected openly into nursing homes but it is crickets from the media.

As to the national response, number one don't be naive, countries like India, China and the continent of Africa have no effective or transparent tracking of any sorts and to think it is not prevalent in these regions is flat out foolish. Second this is a republic and the states should rightly make the decisions they feel necessary to their individual situations. This can be evidenced in Europe as well where almost every country faired terribly compared to the US, however Germany has done quite well in this regard.
Operation warp speed which was initiated by Trunp has fast tracked the US and Britain to develop a vaccine in record time, while the rest of the world watches. This operation is directly in the scope of federal oversight and has thus far been a resounding success.

 

[cdwright40]

First, I will go by stats and Florida has under 200 deaths per 1M people which ranks us somewhere in the middle of the US states. Given that Florida has the largest percentage of seniors of any state in the nation and add to it the fact that we have 4 metros with over 2M people and we are a major tourist destination both locally and internationally, then yes I would say this is a huge success. As for decisions, the one action that Desantis took was early in March he secured nursing homes which prevented the wildfire of deaths that happened in New York from occurring here. This disease will spread through the population no matter what actions are taking so him securing the most vulnerable early likely spared our state thousands of deaths. Cuomo put the most vulnerable at risk by allowing the infected openly into nursing homes but it is crickets from the media.

As to the national response, number one don't be naive, countries like India, China and the continent of Africa have no effective or transparent tracking of any sorts and to think it is not prevalent in these regions is flat out foolish. Second this is a republic and the states should rightly make the decisions they feel necessary to their individual situations. This can be evidenced in Europe as well where almost every country faired terribly compared to the US, however Germany has done quite well in this regard.
Operation warp speed which was initiated by Trunp has fast tracked the US and Britain to develop a vaccine in record time, while the rest of the world watches. This operation is directly in the scope of federal oversight and has thus far been a resounding success.

You are trying to put a suit on nonsense. You have every excuse in the world for Florida and Desantis but you want to drag coumo into Floridas shit show and one doesn't have anything to do with the other. Florida has the 3rd most covid cases in this country and they have not flattened the curve. Listen, being a major tourist spot and having elderly people are even more of a reason to flatten the curve. You have to take more precautions.

New York was the eppicenter so nobody knows wtf you are talking about when you say the media doesn't talk about New Yorks nursing homes. We know about that because of the media. Coumo turned it around. He also has high populations in his state. It has the most dense city in the world. He flattened the curve. Get over it. It has nothing to do with Florida.

I have no idea what you are talking about regarding where our standing is in the world either. Provide me with the evidence these countries have no way of tracking. That's bullshit. We know Africa for example has 2.4 Billion people. Now look at their cases and deaths vs ours. Those things aren't hard to track at all. Hell we have 130,000 deaths and Africa doesn't even have 12,000 deaths. The answer to everything cant be FAKE NEWS.

I heard fake news when we had 15 cases. We have 3 Million now.

 

[kamco360]

You are trying to put a suit on nonsense. You have every excuse in the world for Florida and Desantis but you want to drag coumo into Floridas shit show and one doesn't have anything to do with the other. Florida has the 3rd most covid cases in this country and they have not flattened the curve. Listen, being a major tourist spot and having elderly people are even more of a reason to flatten the curve. You have to take more precautions.

New York was the eppicenter so nobody knows wtf you are talking about when you say the media doesn't talk about New Yorks nursing homes. We know about that because of the media. Coumo turned it around. He also has high populations in his city. He flattened the curve. Get over it. It has nothing to do with Florida.

I have no idea what you are talking about regarding where our standing is in the world either. Provide me with the evidence these countries have no way of tracking. That's bullshit. We know Africa for example has 2.4 Billion people. Now look at their cases and deaths vs ours. Those things aren't hard to track at all. Hell we have 130,000 deaths and Africa doesn't even have 12,000 deaths. The answer to everything cant be FAKE NEWS.

I heard fake news when we had 15 cases. We have 3 Million now.

Your understanding of flattening the curve is poor at best. The purpose if this philosophy is not to eliminate the disease as this cannot be achieved without either hurdle immunity or a vaccine but to keep hospitals from being overrun. No where in the state are they even remotely near losing the capacity to operate effectively and administer proper treatment to all who require it. Because of this there will not be a spike in deaths that accompanies these excess cases and as it were the economy in the state will continue with the reopening in short order.
As for Africa virtually no one travels there for leisure and business and a great deal of their population lives in rural sparsely populated areas. Prior to the pandemic American airlines flies hundreds of routes to Europe and Asia every day, it flies about 40 to Africa in a week. Less cross border travel equals less chance for contamination, currently American flies no flights to Africa. Hard to acquire the disease when live humans can't get there.

 

[cdwright40]

Your understanding of flattening the curve is poor at best. The purpose if this philosophy is not to eliminate the disease as this cannot be achieved without either hurdle immunity or a vaccine but to keep hospitals from being overrun. No where in the state are they even remotely near losing the capacity to operate effectively and administer proper treatment to all who require it. Because of this there will not be a spike in deaths that accompanies these excess cases and as it were the economy in the state will continue with the reopening in short order.
As for Africa virtually no one travels there for leisure and business and a great deal of their population lives in rural sparsely populated areas. Prior to the pandemic American airlines flies hundreds of routes to Europe and Asia every day, it flies about 40 to Africa in a week. Less cross border travel equals less chance for contamination, currently American flies no flights to Africa. Hard to acquire the disease when live humans can't get there.

Okay please show me where I said or implied that flattening the curve means eliminate the disease. I'll wait....and you won't find this because I never said or implied this at all. It's what has to be done to give us the opportunity to responsibly live our lives. You do this and then you need more testing and more tracing and more vaccines...but the first thing that needs to be done is you have to flatten the curve. Please spare me the lame excuses on this too. You are either doing this or you are not doing this. The problem with these people who are not doing it as well as yourself is you make excuses for everything. I'm sick and tired of these lame as excuses. They aren't good excuses they are lame and I don't need to know what Cuomo is doing to know that Desantis is not flattening the curve. It's obvious....and everything can't be fake news that you don't like. This country is a dumpster fire because of leadership like this and all this identity politics nonsense.

You have a damn excuse for every damn thing. There are 2.4 Billion with a "B" people living in Africa for example and you want to convince me people can't live there? I won't even tell you how ridiculous that sounds. They can live there more than they can live here. There are 330 Million people in America. How do we have so many more cases and deaths than a country with so many more people? ....and really lesser resources.

 

[801canesmxer]

You are trying to put a suit on nonsense. You have every excuse in the world for Florida and Desantis but you want to drag coumo into Floridas shit show and one doesn't have anything to do with the other. Florida has the 3rd most covid cases in this country and they have not flattened the curve. Listen, being a major tourist spot and having elderly people are even more of a reason to flatten the curve. You have to take more precautions.

New York was the eppicenter so nobody knows wtf you are talking about when you say the media doesn't talk about New Yorks nursing homes. We know about that because of the media. Coumo turned it around. He also has high populations in his state. It has the most dense city in the world. He flattened the curve. Get over it. It has nothing to do with Florida.

I have no idea what you are talking about regarding where our standing is in the world either. Provide me with the evidence these countries have no way of tracking. That's bullshit. We know Africa for example has 2.4 Billion people. Now look at their cases and deaths vs ours. Those things aren't hard to track at all. Hell we have 130,000 deaths and Africa doesn't even have 12,000 deaths. The answer to everything cant be FAKE NEWS.

I heard fake news when we had 15 cases. We have 3 Million now.

New York has everything to do with Fl. One of the many negligent decisions on Cuomo's part was when he failed to shut his state down when they were the epicenter instead of letting his citizens travel and spread it elsewhere, especially Fl. Cuomo is only behind China in spreading the virus due to negligence. Speaking of negligence, I can't wait for all the lawsuits brought on by the loved ones of those that were in nursing homes that Cuomo played germ warfare with.

 

[kamco360]

Okay please show me where I said or implied that flattening the curve means eliminate the disease. I'll wait....and you won't find this because I never said or implied this at all. It's what has to be done to give us the opportunity to responsibly live our lives. You do this and then you need more testing and more tracing and more vaccines...but the first thing that needs to be done is you have to flatten the curve. Please spare me the lame excuses on this too. You are either doing this or you are not doing this. The problem with these people who are not doing it as well as yourself is you make excuses for everything. I'm sick and tired of these lame as excuses. They aren't good excuses they are lame and I don't need to know what Cuomo is doing to know that Desantis is not flattening the curve. It's obvious....and everything can't be fake news that you don't like. This country is a dumpster fire because of leadership like this and all this identity politics nonsense.

You have a damn excuse for every damn thing. There are 2.4 Billion with a "B" people living in Africa for example and you want to convince me people can't live there? I won't even tell you how ridiculous that sounds. They can live there more than they can live here. There are 330 Million people in America. How do we have so many more cases and deaths than a country with so many more people? ....and really lesser resources.

Again your understanding of flattening the curve is atrocious, the curve is flattened currently and is at no risk of being overrun in the state of Florida. Flattening the curve is not related to case counts as the virus will spread society regardless of measures taken, it can be moderately slowed by things such as lockdowns or masks. The curve is the medical system's ability to adequately treat all patients requiring care, to this end Florida has never even come close to this and likely never will. We administer 50000 -100000 tests daily and the only reason this fluctuates to the low end is that there aren't enough people who want or require to be tested, as of May there has been no inadequacies in testing capacity in Florida, the same can be said for the entire nation. As for contact tracing this is an absolute fool's errand, this disease is an airborne respiratory illness, there is absolutely no way to test and trace a disease that spreads in this fashion without violating pretty much all HIPPA and privacy laws our country has on the books. Contact tracing is effective for STDs because a person can retrace prior sexual partners and inform them, it is impossible to know all the people who have shared airborne proximity to an individual. As for excuses I offer none as I think the handling of this situation has been exemplary on all levels of government with the exception of lockdowns which have unnecessarily wreaked havoc on our economy, especially the poor. I will grant you that you did not state flattening the curve is equal to no cases, however your insistence that the curve in Florida has not been flattened during the entire epidemic is factually untrue.

 

[HJCane]

LMAO....Please.

If you do a good job of flattening the curve you deserve credit. If you do a horrible job you get the business.

I don't really care about this identity political BS. Desantis has done a horrible job.....so no we aren't going to stop saying he is doing a horrible job when he is. It honestly doesn't matter what someone else is doing. We say Desantis is doing a horrible job if he is. Cuomo has nothing to do with that.

Also our president is doing a horrible job. We have 25% of the worlds Covid Cases and Deaths but only 4% of the worlds population.

How has DSantis done a horrible job? Be specific. He already admitted he probably should not have opened the bars so quickly what else CD?

 

[cdwright40]

How has DSantis done a horrible job? Be specific. He already admitted he probably should not have opened the bars so quickly what else CD?

I already clearly told you.

 

[grbcane]

The information you are receiving from Donald J Trump,..A man with a 4th grade vocabulary, who cheated on his SAT’s is wrong....We are still in the midst of the 1st wave and this virus is not letting up..The number of cases, which will be followed by a new wave of hospitalizations is increasing exponentially...Ask the Baltimore Ravens if it’s over and other Professional Teams if it’s no longer a problem...Stop being a AntiMa and come back to reality.

This didn’t take long to debunk.

Trump never cheated on his SAT’s, here’s the proof.






Mary Trump's claim Trump paid friend to take SATs conflicts with timeline, Joe Shapiro's wife says


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wife-of-late-trump-friend-challenges-mary-trump-sat


Explore the Fox News apps that are right for you at http://www.foxnews.com/apps-products/index.html.

 

[grbcane]

I already clearly told you.

No, that was incoherent babble as usual.

 

[HJCane]

I already clearly told you.

Where did you tell me?

 

[HJCane]

This didn’t take long to debunk.

Trump never cheated on his SAT’s, here’s the proof.






Mary Trump's claim Trump paid friend to take SATs conflicts with timeline, Joe Shapiro's wife says


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wife-of-late-trump-friend-challenges-mary-trump-sat


Explore the Fox News apps that are right for you at http://www.foxnews.com/apps-products/index.html.

He met the guy that supposedly took the test for him WHILE IN COLLEGE! Meaning he was already there. As in post SAT test.