Fauci - Perfect Example of Wanting to Remain Relevant

[El Cubano]

17. Year ideology is clouding your logic. You and NoShore are choosing your expert, a Dr. from John’s Hopkins. I’m sure he’s a smart guy. Doesn’t mean I have to believe him (Scott Atlas is a smart guy but is a wacko).

I’m choosing the Dr who has served presidents of both parties for decades and is believed by the American majority. He is nonpartisan.

We differ. No need to attack those of a different ideology or opinion.

Dr Atlas has been spot on and has not wavered on his position un like Faci and the rest of those clowns..

And by the way now there is also talk about these new strands thats going to create a new wave so say the 3 Gov. clowns but yet the infections are dropping like a rock in watet..
So keep towing the water for those Gov clowns .
👍👍👍👍👍

 

[CaneBandit]

Dr Atlas has been spot on and has not wavered on his position un like Faci and the rest of those clowns..

And by the way now there is also talk about these new strands thats going to create a new wave so say the 3 Gov. clowns but yet the infections are dropping like a rock in watet..
So keep towing the water for those Gov clowns .
👍👍👍👍👍

Fauci is enjoying his honeymoon with the media and short term perceived power.

 

[El Cubano]

False predictions. No data, no showing us the ways / means of his "predictions." Just talk.

Guy is a total fraud... Has changed his mind more than I can count... 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

 

[NO.SHORECANE]

Fauci's multiple. position changes are public record ,as is his involvement with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which has been condemned by scientists over the years for conducting dangerous experiments. Those are facts, not opinions expressed in a meaningless poll. I'm not. attacking anyone. They can believe what they want. My point is, as a physician, full disclosure not an. Epidemiologist, I can't take Fauci seriously because of his continual shifting of. his positions. He is being condemned by other physicians for being political when he shouldn't be.I believe Dr. Makary is more knowledgable and more of a. straight shooter .Bloomberg School at. Johns Hopkins is a pretty liberal place. This. has nothing to do with Trump IMO.

 

[cortez55403]

Fauci's multiple. position changes are public record ,as is his involvement with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which has been condemned by scientists over the years for conducting dangerous experiments. Those are facts, not opinions expressed in a meaningless poll. I'm not. attacking anyone. They can believe what they want. My point is, as a physician, full disclosure not an. Epidemiologist, I can't take Fauci seriously because of his continual shifting of. his positions. He is being condemned by other physicians for being political when he shouldn't be.I believe Dr. Makary is more knowledgable and more of a. straight shooter .Bloomberg School at. Johns Hopkins is a pretty liberal place. This. has nothing to do with Trump IMO.

NoShore.

I am not familiar with Dr. Makary. I do respect Johns Hopkins. A very close friend of mine (also a physician) has moved to Baltimore to participate as a patient in a cutting edge trial attempting to find a vaccine for pancreatic cancer. Scary and exciting stuff.

Dr. Atlas... a total nut job. A radiologist with no infectious disease experience. I have two friends (both professors of medicine) who have worked with him. He’s a smart guy but a total bomb thrower. A Trump loyalist who threw Dr. Birx under the bus and ran her over several times.

Dr. Birx. A respected professional who forfeited her reputation by sitting like a potted plant as Trump hallucinated about bogus cures, lights inside the body and turning the corner on this pandemic. She had to go.

Dr. Fauci. Attacked from the Right cuz he “changes his mind” and gives too many interviews. Yet, the American public (including me) believe he is experienced, non partisan and truthful....all the things that Trump was not.

Bottom line: we see the medical info through our own ideological lens...me included. My lens tells me Dr. Fauci is a credible scientist and apolitical character. Biden retained him and fired Atlas and Birx. Others, most particularly Trump supporters, don’t see Fauci that way. That’s fine. None of us has a monopoly on the truth.

 

[CaneBandit]

NoShore.

I am not familiar with Dr. Makary. I do respect Johns Hopkins. A very close friend of mine (also a physician) has moved to Baltimore to participate as a patient in a cutting edge trial attempting to find a vaccine for pancreatic cancer. Scary and exciting stuff.

Dr. Atlas... a total nut job. A radiologist with no infectious disease experience. I have two friends (both professors of medicine) who have worked with him. He’s a smart guy but a total bomb thrower. A Trump loyalist who threw Dr. Birx under the bus and ran her over several times.

Dr. Birx. A respected professional who forfeited her reputation by sitting like a potted plant as Trump hallucinated about bogus cures, lights inside the body and turning the corner on this pandemic. She had to go.

Dr. Fauci. Attacked from the Right cuz he “changes his mind” and gives too many interviews. Yet, the American public (including me) believe he is experienced, non partisan and truthful....all the things that Trump was not.

Bottom line: we see the medical info through our own ideological lens...me included. My lens tells me Dr. Fauci is a credible scientist and apolitical character. Biden retained him and fired Atlas and Birx. Others, most particularly Trump supporters, don’t see Fauci that way. That’s fine. None of us has a monopoly on the truth.

Since you believe and Trust in Dr. Fauci, then why do you keep forgetting that Fauci stated Trump followed all of Fauci’s guidance for combatting the virus since Day 1? Then, you and your partisan ilk blame Trump for all of these deaths, but not Fauci? Please explain

 

[NO.SHORECANE]

@ Cortez We can agree to disagree on Fauci. He should be judged by his peers (physicians) not public opinion polls IMO.

 

[El Cubano]

@ Cortez We can agree to disagree on Fauci. He should be judged by his peers (physicians) not public opinion polls IMO.

Freak that he is a partisan hack now that he’s with sleepy team...
fuccking guy flip flops more than a fish out of water...
Typical Gov worker... Full of shitt..!!!

 

[cortez55403]

@ Cortez We can agree to disagree on Fauci. He should be judged by his peers (physicians) not public opinion polls IMO.

i haven’t seen any polling of physicians as to how they evaluate Dr Fauci. Do these exist?

Thanks

 

[816_Cane]

NoShore.

I am not familiar with Dr. Makary. I do respect Johns Hopkins. A very close friend of mine (also a physician) has moved to Baltimore to participate as a patient in a cutting edge trial attempting to find a vaccine for pancreatic cancer. Scary and exciting stuff.

Dr. Atlas... a total nut job. A radiologist with no infectious disease experience. I have two friends (both professors of medicine) who have worked with him. He’s a smart guy but a total bomb thrower. A Trump loyalist who threw Dr. Birx under the bus and ran her over several times.

Dr. Birx. A respected professional who forfeited her reputation by sitting like a potted plant as Trump hallucinated about bogus cures, lights inside the body and turning the corner on this pandemic. She had to go.

Dr. Fauci. Attacked from the Right cuz he “changes his mind” and gives too many interviews. Yet, the American public (including me) believe he is experienced, non partisan and truthful....all the things that Trump was not.

Bottom line: we see the medical info through our own ideological lens...me included. My lens tells me Dr. Fauci is a credible scientist and apolitical character. Biden retained him and fired Atlas and Birx. Others, most particularly Trump supporters, don’t see Fauci that way. That’s fine. None of us has a monopoly on the truth.

You mean Birx, the same lady who admitted she broke her own “recommendations” because they were causing her parents to not eat and have a lack of interest in living while at the same time attempting to attack regular people who would do the same?

 

[NO.SHORECANE]

i haven’t seen any polling of physicians as to how they evaluate Dr Fauci. Do these exist?

Thanks

Not that I know of, but he has been criticized for his. totally inconsistent messaging by multiple physicians.

 

[CaneBandit]

Let’s have an honest discussion about Fauci’s lies, which will be difficult for many of you radical partisan hacks.

Examples #1 & #2: Fauci said he lied about mask use initially to ensure the common folk wouldn’t make a run on PPEs to ensure medical professionals had access to them. This was not science changing. He either lied initially to save PPEs, or lied to cover up his horrible statement on the lack of need for masks. Either way, he lied, and it had nothing to do with changing data.

 

[CaneBandit]

Bucktoothed donkeys run from real talk when presented Fauci’s quotes

 

[cortez55403]

Bandit.

Please grow up just a tad. Your sophomoric posts and allegations are juvenile. You don’t like Fauci. Fine.

Just stop making shiz up,

 

[816_Cane]

Bandit.

Please grow up just a tad. Your sophomoric posts and allegations are juvenile. You don’t like Fauci. Fine.

Just stop making shiz up,

What about this is made up? You’re right nothing. Fauci is a walking contradiction and clearly you fell for it.

Fauci: why the public wasn't told to wear masks when the coronavirus pandemic began

The infectious disease expert also discussed why they are necessary.

www.google.com

“He also acknowledged that masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn't feel the strain of a shortage of PPE.

He explained that public health experts "were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply."

Let’s find some more Fauci errors. Don’t forget when he said “FL was asking for trouble”, “NY did it right”, and “CA stay-at-home order was a good idea”. The opposite of everything he said came true.

 

[grbcane]

What about this is made up? You’re right nothing. Fauci is a walking contradiction and clearly you fell for it.

Fauci: why the public wasn't told to wear masks when the coronavirus pandemic began

The infectious disease expert also discussed why they are necessary.

www.google.com

“He also acknowledged that masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn't feel the strain of a shortage of PPE.

He explained that public health experts "were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply."

Let’s find some more Fauci errors. Don’t forget when he said “FL was asking for trouble”, “NY did it right”, and “CA stay-at-home order was a good idea”. The opposite of everything he said came true.

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Have New York and California finished with the two week shutdown to flatten the curve?

 

[CaneBandit]

Bandit.

Please grow up just a tad. Your sophomoric posts and allegations are juvenile. You don’t like Fauci. Fine.

Just stop making shiz up,

Everything I posted is a fact. What was made up? Serious question.

Where did I say I didn’t like him? I said he needs to do his work and stay away from the media. It isn’t a good look for him.

 

[CaneBandit]

What about this is made up? You’re right nothing. Fauci is a walking contradiction and clearly you fell for it.

Fauci: why the public wasn't told to wear masks when the coronavirus pandemic began

The infectious disease expert also discussed why they are necessary.

www.google.com

“He also acknowledged that masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn't feel the strain of a shortage of PPE.

He explained that public health experts "were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply."

Let’s find some more Fauci errors. Don’t forget when he said “FL was asking for trouble”, “NY did it right”, and “CA stay-at-home order was a good idea”. The opposite of everything he said came true.

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Thanks for posting. This interview of Fauci in his own words for why he lied was big news to those paying attention and not watching suppressed media outlets intent on influencing an election.

 

[canesfan470]

You guys keep painting yourself into the fringe right wing corner. The majority of Americans believe and support Dr. Fauci. Trump trashed him and hired that nut job, Scott Atlas. He was a radiologist who tortured Dr, Birx And elbowed her out. She too lost her credibility and had to go.

Dr. Fauci survived because he knows his shiz and doesn’t bow to political pressure.

Fauci is full of shit

 

[cortez55403]

Fauci in his own words.

Dr. Fauci: This has been my lowest point during Covid-19 pandemic

 

[816_Cane]

Fauci in his own words.

Dr. Fauci: This has been my lowest point during Covid-19 pandemic

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Way to avoid backing up your lie that @CaneBandit was lying.

More fun Fauci contradictions abound in this thread.

 

[CaneBandit]

Way to avoid backing up your lie that @CaneBandit was lying.

More fun Fauci contradictions abound in this thread.

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The radical posters in here are not very honest, so it is difficult to have a rational discussion with them.

You discuss anecdotes, they call them lies.
You present facts, they then deflect.
You provide sources for more facts, they put you on ignore and run away to their echo chambers.

It’s sad when the information I posted came directly out of Fauci’s mouth captured on video, and they still call it a lie. Ignorant.

 

[krvanness]

All of the Blue States have hung their hat on this schmuck and it will prove to be their demise.

 

[cortez55403]

Since you believe and Trust in Dr. Fauci, then why do you keep forgetting that Fauci stated Trump followed all of Fauci’s guidance for combatting the virus since Day 1? Then, you and your partisan ilk blame Trump for all of these deaths, but not Fauci? Please explain

Bandit,

You’ve stated that you have posted facts and have been met with denial or deflection. I originally chose not to respond to the above because your logic is so flawed on its face. Your facts = fallacy.

ex. ”Trump followed all of Fauci’s guidance”, so shouldn‘t Fauci also be blamed “for all of these deaths.”? No.

* Fauci didn’t cover up about the seriousness of the pandemic. Trump did early and often as he admitted to Bob Woodward.

* Fauci didn’t choose to decentralize responsibility for Covid action to states, counties and city officials. Trump did. No other country has chosen this disastrous, chaotic approach.

* Fauci didn’t say it would go away when the weather changes. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t say that it was like the seasonal flu. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t advocate for the wacky therapies for those infected. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t mock those who wore masks. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t sponsor rallies that turned into super spreader events. Trump did. RIP Herman Cain.

* Fauci didn’t turn the White House into a Covid breeding ground. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t say in the fall that “we are turning the corner.” Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t say that we should stop testing so that our infection data would look better. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t say “it is what it is“ when confronted with the escalating number of deaths. Trump did.

In the early days of the pandemic, Trump did follow some of Fauci’s advice. As things got worse, however, he ignored Fauci, kept him away from the press and criticized him to the Trump base. He then chose his own path....resulting in 500k+ deaths and defeat by the voters. He did it ‘his way.”

 

[CaneBandit]

Bandit,

You’ve stated that you have posted facts and have been met with denial or deflection. I originally chose not to respond to the above because your logic is so flawed on its face. Your facts = fallacy.

ex. ”Trump followed all of Fauci’s guidance”, so shouldn‘t Fauci also be blamed “for all of these deaths.”? No.

* Fauci didn’t cover up about the seriousness of the pandemic. Trump did early and often as he admitted to Bob Woodward.

* Fauci didn’t choose to decentralize responsibility for Covid action to states, counties and city officials. Trump did. No other country has chosen this disastrous, chaotic approach.

* Fauci didn’t say it would go away when the weather changes. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t say that it was like the seasonal flu. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t advocate for the wacky therapies for those infected. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t mock those who wore masks. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t sponsor rallies that turned into super spreader events. Trump did. RIP Herman Cain.

* Fauci didn’t turn the White House into a Covid breeding ground. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t say in the fall that “we are turning the corner.” Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t say that we should stop testing so that our infection data would look better. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t say “it is what it is“ when confronted with the escalating number of deaths. Trump did.

In the early days of the pandemic, Trump did follow some of Fauci’s advice. As things got worse, however, he ignored Fauci, kept him away from the press and criticized him to the Trump base. He then chose his own path....resulting in 500k+ deaths and defeat by the voters. He did it ‘his way.”

My logic is facts. Way to gloss over Fauci’s lies post. Good one

 

[cortez55403]

My logic is facts. Way to gloss over Fauci’s lies post. Good one

Low effort response. In sum, the great majority of Americans believe and support Fauci. They don’t believe Trump and voted him out.

You don’t believe Fauci. Fine. That opinion lumps you with the political fringe. Rather than count you with the silent majority, your views classify yourself as part of the noisy minority. Live with it.

 

[CaneBandit]

Low effort response. In sum, the great majority of Americans believe and support Fauci. They don’t believe Trump and voted him out.

You don’t believe Fauci. Fine. That opinion lumps you with the political fringe. Rather than count you with the silent majority, your views classify yourself as part of the noisy minority. Live with it.

Irrelevant. This is about Fauci. Your TDS has taken over. A great majority of Americans are sheep who only read headlines and don’t look at multiple sources.

Your unhinged bias is out there for all to see now because no where did I say I didn’t believe Fauci. I pointed out he admitted to lying, which you deflect, deflect, deflect!

 

[816_Cane]

Low effort response. In sum, the great majority of Americans believe and support Fauci. They don’t believe Trump and voted him out.

You don’t believe Fauci. Fine. That opinion lumps you with the political fringe. Rather than count you with the silent majority, your views classify yourself as part of the noisy minority. Live with it.

Deflect, bring up Trump. Sad how some people can’t be honest with themselves.

How you enjoying those Fauci inspired lockdowns in Cali? Congrats on being within ~100 deaths/m of FL at 1,413 (28th) vs 1,291 (30th)? And don’t forget FL has a median age of population 6 years higher than Cali so age adjusted CA is much worse.

Must suck to have a 50% higher unemployment rate, less than 10% of kids gaining an education in person, and small businesses going under left and right after creating policies 100% endorsed by our boy Fauci for zero benefit.

 

[CashvilleCane1]

You guys keep painting yourself into the fringe right wing corner. The majority of Americans believe and support Dr. Fauci. Trump trashed him and hired that nut job, Scott Atlas. He was a radiologist who tortured Dr, Birx And elbowed her out. She too lost her credibility and had to go.

Dr. Fauci survived because he knows his shiz and doesn’t bow to political pressure.

You’re contradicting yourself. Hell Fauci has contradicted himself numerous times. Once you lie you’re done. Nobody in America believes him or at least should believe him. He is a typical yes man. He says whatever he needs to say to keep employed.

 

[CashvilleCane1]

Deflect, bring up Trump. Sad how some people can’t be honest with themselves.

How you enjoying those Fauci inspired lockdowns in Cali? Congrats on being within ~100 deaths/m of FL at 1,413 (28th) vs 1,291 (30th)? And don’t forget FL has a median age of population 6 years higher than Cali so age adjusted CA is much worse.

Must suck to have a 50% higher unemployment rate, less than 10% of kids gaining an education in person, and small businesses going under left and right after creating policies 100% endorsed by our boy Fauci for zero benefit.

Oof facts won’t sit well with him

 

[central17]

Bandit,

You’ve stated that you have posted facts and have been met with denial or deflection. I originally chose not to respond to the above because your logic is so flawed on its face. Your facts = fallacy.

ex. ”Trump followed all of Fauci’s guidance”, so shouldn‘t Fauci also be blamed “for all of these deaths.”? No.

* Fauci didn’t cover up about the seriousness of the pandemic. Trump did early and often as he admitted to Bob Woodward.

* Fauci didn’t choose to decentralize responsibility for Covid action to states, counties and city officials. Trump did. No other country has chosen this disastrous, chaotic approach.

* Fauci didn’t say it would go away when the weather changes. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t say that it was like the seasonal flu. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t advocate for the wacky therapies for those infected. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t mock those who wore masks. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t sponsor rallies that turned into super spreader events. Trump did. RIP Herman Cain.

* Fauci didn’t turn the White House into a Covid breeding ground. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t say in the fall that “we are turning the corner.” Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t say that we should stop testing so that our infection data would look better. Trump did.

* Fauci didn’t say “it is what it is“ when confronted with the escalating number of deaths. Trump did.

In the early days of the pandemic, Trump did follow some of Fauci’s advice. As things got worse, however, he ignored Fauci, kept him away from the press and criticized him to the Trump base. He then chose his own path....resulting in 500k+ deaths and defeat by the voters. He did it ‘his way.”

Just do have to ask re:
* Fauci didn’t sponsor rallies that turned into super spreader events. Trump did. RIP Herman Cain.
* Fauci didn’t turn the White House into a Covid breeding ground. Trump did.

Did Fauci ever take a position on whether "peaceful protests" which included riots, looting and violence were super spreaders or Covid breeding grounds? I think we all know the answer, which is why I have such little respect for Fauci. He is 10% scientist and 90% Political Spokesman.

 

[cortez55403]

Oof facts won’t sit well with him

‘What’s an “oof” fact?

 

[cortez55403]

Just do have to ask re:
* Fauci didn’t sponsor rallies that turned into super spreader events. Trump did. RIP Herman Cain.
* Fauci didn’t turn the White House into a Covid breeding ground. Trump did.

Did Fauci ever take a position on whether "peaceful protests" which included riots, looting and violence were super spreaders or Covid breeding grounds? I think we all know the answer, which is why I have such little respect for Fauci. He is 10% scientist and 90% Political Spokesman.

I understand that’s how you feel about Fauci. That’s fine. We can disagree.

The majority of the country, however, believes Fauci and trusts him. That’s why he has been retained while Dr. Birx and Dr. Atlas were not retained. They Dr. Birx silently tolerated Trump’s Covid nonsense while Dr. Atlas fanned the flames of Trump’s fallacies. They are gone.

 

[816_Cane]

I understand that’s how you feel about Fauci. That’s fine. We can disagree.

The majority of the country, however, believes Fauci and trusts him. That’s why he has been retained while Dr. Birx and Dr. Atlas were not retained. They Dr. Birx silently tolerated Trump’s Covid nonsense while Dr. Atlas fanned the flames of Trump’s fallacies. They are gone.

How wrong can one person be? Keep ignoring the facts, as you’ve so deftly done in this thread, and keep fawning over your “feelings” for Fauci.

Atlas was hired as a “special government employee” which limited his service to government to 130 days in a calendar year. He reached that deadline and resigned. He voluntarily left in accordance with his contract and wasn’t “not retained”.

You are quickly approaching a dmatt level of alternate reality.

 

[cortez55403]

How wrong can one person be? Keep ignoring the facts, as you’ve so deftly done in this thread, and keep fawning over your “feelings” for Fauci.

Atlas was hired as a “special government employee” which limited his service to government to 130 days in a calendar year. He reached that deadline and resigned.

You are quickly approaching a dmatt level of alternate reality.

Thanks 816. Don’t worry too much about me. My adult kids think that I’m moving Right cuz I voted for Bloomberg in the Cali primary. I’m retired with no pension, living off the investments made during my earning years as a capitalist.

But, I’m hoping that you don’t drift too far Right or you’ll end up with El Cubano who continues to baldly assert that the Proud Boys are patriots and all Dems are either government employees or on welfare. If I see you agreeing with El too often, I’ll be worried about you!

 

[CaneBandit]

Just do have to ask re:
* Fauci didn’t sponsor rallies that turned into super spreader events. Trump did. RIP Herman Cain.
* Fauci didn’t turn the White House into a Covid breeding ground. Trump did.

Did Fauci ever take a position on whether "peaceful protests" which included riots, looting and violence were super spreaders or Covid breeding grounds? I think we all know the answer, which is why I have such little respect for Fauci. He is 10% scientist and 90% Political Spokesman.

Ouch

 

[NO.SHORECANE]

Even Bill Maher is shitting on Fauci. He said he believes Dr. Makary.

 

[CaneBandit]

Even Bill Maher is shitting on Fauci. He said he believes Dr. Makary.

The unhinged board leftists only sees what MSNBC shows them. Zero self analysis or motivation to seek out the facts.

 

[CaneBandit]

Happy Anniversary to this big disinformation campaign by Fauci. He later admitted to lying to avoid a run on PPEs needed by health care providers. Just think of all the lives he could have saved by being honest.

 

[grbcane]

All of the Blue States have hung their hat on this schmuck and it will prove to be their demise.

I love that scene from Karate Kid when Fauci is training Ralph Machio by the fence, mask on mask off young Danialson.