Lmfao, I deflected when I agreed. And you keep name calling and offending me! It hurts! You should be banned. Lmfao
Let's try another topic and see if you can dialog in a respectful manner.
Yes and no, it's a tricky tough question. I think they shouldn't be able to turn someone down. That make sense?
Not a tricky question only yes or no. I'll take that as a yes.
Ok fair retort, tricky for me due to a personal matter when I was a kid. No! If you got insurance it's on them to get you healthy. They shouldn't be able to pick and choose the cheap sick from unexpected expensive sick. They are in the risk business, it's on them
So far, you are in favor of preexisting conditions covered by insurance companies and no lifetime coverage limit.
Fair statement, no I think 26 creates incentive for laziness. I think if child under parents policy is in school I.E. masters or Dr program that's one thing. I think it should last only till secondary education is finihsed. Then we're all on our own two feet. Get a job and get coverage
I agree with you on this one. So far we have very similar views on Obamacare. Next question.
I'm against the tax payer on hook, insurance should be thru employed not a handout.
I really think you and I could figure this out and put forth a solid plan that would look similar to what's in place today.
I'm honestly against anything not earned, health care isn't a birth right on someone else's dime.
Here's where the left and the right part ways and why we have discourse. I also believe one should earn their keep and not look to others to care for them. However, some through no fault of their own don't earn enough to care for themselves financially. I'm certain you know someone who fits this description. Should we ignore them and let them die on our streets? I know many well meaning families that could never afford medical insurance without some assistance.
No no no I get that, what I was responding to was "you owe me" mindset. The rest yeah I get it. For a certain timeframe though. Lifetimes of food stamps and welfare just haven't helped. It's become a game now
With all the bluster being thrown on this site there appears to be an opportunity for real dialog. Even between you and CD. Lol
You and I are doing fine because we're dealing in facts and ideas derived from facts. No need to muddy waters with others who don't play straight up
I'm with you completely on this part.....my issue is this....should someone be forced to work for a huge company? Even with ACA, companies with less than 50 full time employees (or FTE) aren't required to provide insurance to their employees. After someone graduates school, they aren't going to have a problem with insurance if they work for a fortune 500 but not everyone can land those kind or jobs and not everyone wants to work for that kind of company. I don't believe that someone who takes a job at a a modest company (20-40) employees should be one their own for insurance, if they can find coverage......Now if someone isn't working, only working part time, or still working on their bachelors at 28, I agree with you that the taxpayer shouldn't be forced to compensate for them.
Ok I'll bite on most have that, however most employers do provide after 90 days(not all I'd have to look up %)
you can sit there and actually say "they got with all sides" and want anyone to take the rest of what you have to say seriously!! And no it's not better than what we had, insurance companies are dropping the plan itself. It's a bad piece of legislation. Was crammed down the country's fault for Obama to pad his legacy. People have to decide between their mortgage and insurance because the premiums are so high, way to expensive. And "400 families provide for 20 million" can you prove that? You may be correct, however I still feel everyone should pay for themselves. In cases such as elderly(as in the tax payer that's on Medicaid, not deadbeat sucking system dry) they should be catered too. The mentally handicapped should have an open check book. However when the emergency rooms are used as a Dr office and 99% of the room is filled with deadbeats and my kid needs to wait HOURS for stitches even though I've got Blue Cross on my own nickel it pisses me off. There's way to many people taking advantage of the taxpayer. Trump won because the people paying the tab for others are pissed. Why work when you can get everything for free mentality keeps so many people from seeing their potential.
I may be correct? No, I am correct. You should look it up if you don't believe me. Not my problem. While you are at it go google the forums that were bipartisan with any ideas welcome. Where McCain was famously told he lost the election, now it is time to work.
No it's actually your problem since your the one stating it as a fact without evidence. If I don't "grasp the facts" then prove me wrong with the facts. You can't keep throwing stats out there without evidence to back you up. You use "Google chat rooms" for factual talking points? "The minimum wage hasn't been increased since Reagan" you sure about that?? Lmfao. Premiums under Obamacare are to expensive your correct, you haven't noticed major carriers dropping it? And no it's the "40 hour a week" families in the emergency room. And yes when I've paid my taxes and premiums and can't get my kid seen because the room full of deadbeats yes it posses me off. Regardless of your feelings they don't become facts because your passionate about them. Facts are facts, yours are warped opinions.
No, educate yourself and stop relying on a handout. If you don't know something go find out about it. Nobody is going to give you anything. Just because you don't know what I am talking about and I know my stuff, that doesn't mean I do your homework for you.
Lmfao, "I know this stuff" you got beat up everyday. No doubt! Little pompous fraud
We can afford it.....the stock market has been soaring since he was elected.
Highest return rate in 100 years!!! Eight years of Trump and we will be able to afford paying for deadbeats without it draining us
Who is we? Do you know what our national debt is? Do you understand where our revenue comes from? Our tax dollars that Trump is looking to cut....If "we" couldn't afford it under Obama as republicans claim, there is no way in hell "we" can now. It's funny what "we" can afford when the person you vote for wins. When the other side wins "we" can't afford anything. The stock market isn't our countries revenue. That comes from taxes. Corporate and individual and those are being cut now.
True! I agree with you here CD. Obama ran up a national debt so high we may never see another balanced budget. Your correct, Obama's bad fiscal policies and entitlement programs that ran up that debt are an ambitious climb. Good facts CD well done
Don’t take it too seriously as I was making my tongue and cheek contribution to the sharp divide we have on these boards.....lol. But to address your point, I am not sure why you think a rising stock market doesnt fill the government's coffers. People and corporations invested in the stock market still have to pay taxes on any gains and the last time I checked the tax cuts haven’t come yet. Even if there are cuts we still have to pay taxes and the hope is that tax cuts promotes consumer spending which leads to more tax revenue. A healthy market also inspires consumer spending, employment, etc......so yes, the government absolutely prospers with a healthy market. While I am enjoying this ride right now April 15th will not be a happy day for me.
You do know there are many things in the constitution today that didn't exist "back in the day"? As an example, equal rights for Blacks. Thank god we didn't leave it up to states like Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina etc. to correct this "oversight" by our founding fathers.
