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I just read what you stated above. I think he will fry alsoGuy was a radical, racist nutcase... There's even a picture of him wearing a pro-apartheid jacket that was worn by racists in South Africa. He'll get the death penalty- South Carolina is no softie on administering punishment.
Has nothing to do with it.Meanwhile, the confederate flag continues to fly at the statehouse.
Actually it has a lot do with it.Has nothing to do with it.
You're encouraging and promoting racism. That's all that flag symbolizes.Explain?
Of course its a "hate crime" if you kill 9 people...What difference does it make if he hated them or not? Guy killed 9 people thats all you need to know.
According to the Alex Jones website, the wackjob was taking Suboxone, a narcotic that is used to treat opiate addiction. Side effect is tendency of users to become really violent, aggressive, threatening, exhibit sudden outbursts and increasingly self-destructive. Unclear whether he was taking it for a specific psych illness. Suboxone has become a street drug and is even more addictive than the opiates it is supposed to help them kick. See a website called SubSux.com.
It hasn't bee widely talked about, but apparently most mass shooters recently have been on psychotic drugs, including the Columbine and Sandy Hook killers.
the end result of your post so far is exactly why I don't reply to things like this, It is sad, I agree.People talk politics, soccer and everything else on this board.
Noticed no mention of the horrible hate crime last night.
Don't like it keep moving.So it is necessary for folks that are of sound mind to talk about that here? Not trying to dodge the sad occurrence but why give that punk the gratification? I come here to leave that mess for a little while. All the media outlets have made sure the situation is getting its just dues of coverage..
The end result is people are talking. That means progressthe end result of your post so far is exactly why I don't reply to things like this, It is sad, I agree.
Of course its a "hate crime" if you kill 9 people...What difference does it make if he hated them or not? Guy killed 9 people thats all you need to know.
As a life-long Southerner, I have no doubt the mindset of Confederate leaders was to prop their economy up on the backs of slaves. History books tell us as much and because of the way their workforce was structured, they could not survive without the slave trade.
What I think has been lost in these kind of conversations is what the Confederate flag has come to mean vs. what it originally represented. The fact is, it is a military battle flag that was stomped on by the KKK when that evil organization chose it as their own.
Frankly, if there is a flag people should get hot about it should be the flag of the Confederate national government. How many of U know what it looks like? Not many I bet, but because of the KKK, the South's battle flag has been politicized while the government flag, more directly reflective of hateful racial policies, sits quietly out of the limelight and the stream of public consciousness.
Regardless of the political or social stance, a lot of men died fighting for that flag and not all of them did so supporting slavery. In the regular soldier's minds, tbey were fighting and willing to die for their own land and their family's survival, but not for rich plantation owners.
Now 150 years later, while we have the luxury of hindsight to help us debate what was right or wrong during those times, one thing remains: even after all these years and all the advancements we have made as a society when it comes to race relations, we still have a long way to go.
The hideous crime by a deranged 21 year old in Charleston, SC says so. But we can change that hateful mentality and it is up to us to do that, if not for our country's survival, but for those 9 precious souls who now belong to the angels.
Go Canes!
This is probably the best statement that can be made Atlanta Cane. ExcellentAs a life-long Southerner, I have no doubt the mindset of Confederate leaders was to prop their economy up on the backs of slaves. History books tell us as much and because of the way their workforce was structured, they could not survive without the slave trade.
What I think has been lost in these kind of conversations is what the Confederate flag has come to mean vs. what it originally represented. The fact is, it is a military battle flag that was stomped on by the KKK when that evil organization chose it as their own.
Frankly, if there is a flag people should get hot about it should be the flag of the Confederate national government. How many of U know what it looks like? Not many I bet, but because of the KKK, the South's battle flag has been politicized while the government flag, more directly reflective of hateful racial policies, sits quietly out of the limelight and the stream of public consciousness.
Regardless of the political or social stance, a lot of men died fighting for that flag and not all of them did so supporting slavery. In the regular soldier's minds, tbey were fighting and willing to die for their own land and their family's survival, but not for rich plantation owners.
Now 150 years later, while we have the luxury of hindsight to help us debate what was right or wrong during those times, one thing remains: even after all these years and all the advancements we have made as a society when it comes to race relations, we still have a long way to go.
The hideous crime by a deranged 21 year old in Charleston, SC says so. But we can change that hateful mentality and it is up to us to do that, if not for our country's survival, but for those 9 precious souls who now belong to the angels.
Go Canes!
Atlanta,
What I think has been lost in these kind of conversations is what the Confederate flag has come to mean vs. what it originally represented. The fact is, it is a military battle flag that was stomped on by the KKK when that evil organization chose it as their own.
And southerners let the KKK do that. Mind you, the KKK was full of southerners.
Frankly, if there is a flag people should get hot about it should be the flag of the Confederate national government. How many of U know what it looks like? Not many I bet, but because of the KKK, the South's battle flag has been politicized while the government flag, more directly reflective of hateful racial policies, sits quietly out of the limelight and the stream of public consciousness.
This point makes no sense. The confederate flag should be put in a museum. Who cares about another flag.
Regardless of the political or social stance, a lot of men died fighting for that flag and not all of them did so supporting slavery. In the regular soldier's minds, tbey were fighting and willing to die for their own land and their family's survival, but not for rich plantation owners.
By fighting they did support slavery. It's implicit in the volunteering.
Now 150 years later, while we have the luxury of hindsight to help us debate what was right or wrong during those times, one thing remains: even after all these years and all the advancements we have made as a society when it comes to race relations, we still have a long way to go.
Classic cop-out.
The hideous crime by a deranged 21 year old in Charleston, SC says so. But we can change that hateful mentality and it is up to us to do that, if not for our country's survival, but for those 9 precious souls who now belong to the angels.
More cop-out.
Go Canes!
Thanks for summarizing my thoughts! The rabbit whole of hate is black hole vortex. If anyone took the time and read what really went on from the Arab slave trade to Willie Lynch they would lose their sh!t! There were sick practices being done routinely durning the time of Confederacy. It's all perspective but the truth about those flags ATL speaks of is sick!As a life-long Southerner, I have no doubt the mindset of Confederate leaders was to prop their economy up on the backs of slaves. History books tell us as much and because of the way their workforce was structured, they could not survive without the slave trade.
What I think has been lost in these kind of conversations is what the Confederate flag has come to mean vs. what it originally represented. The fact is, it is a military battle flag that was stomped on by the KKK when that evil organization chose it as their own.
Frankly, if there is a flag people should get hot about it should be the flag of the Confederate national government. How many of U know what it looks like? Not many I bet, but because of the KKK, the South's battle flag has been politicized while the government flag, more directly reflective of hateful racial policies, sits quietly out of the limelight and the stream of public consciousness.
Regardless of the political or social stance, a lot of men died fighting for that flag and not all of them did so supporting slavery. In the regular soldier's minds, tbey were fighting and willing to die for their own land and their family's survival, but not for rich plantation owners.
Now 150 years later, while we have the luxury of hindsight to help us debate what was right or wrong during those times, one thing remains: even after all these years and all the advancements we have made as a society when it comes to race relations, we still have a long way to go.
The hideous crime by a deranged 21 year old in Charleston, SC says so. But we can change that hateful mentality and it is up to us to do that, if not for our country's survival, but for those 9 precious souls who now belong to the angels.
Go Canes!
Word!Government is the biggest drug dealers on the block...People hooked on all kinds of pills around this country..
I know several cops around my area and they all say the same thing....Pills are more of a problem in my area than coke, crack, meth, weed combined...
Now this coward last night...If it was up to me, he’d be executed Sunday on live tv, 8pm...
No.I would say that all Murders are "Hate Crimes"! I mean doesn't that just make sense?! Does to me!