Here it comes!!!! So exiting! Evidence Obama tapped Trump!! Jail for Obama!!
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Yes, unlike you I wait for facts. I'm not going to write an opinion based on things I don't control. Which is why you have zero credability since you form opinions on issues without the actual facts or data! However yeah this one will bury Obama and his entire legacy, he will be exposed for the hypocritical fraud he was as President.Potential?
You need to stop reading that right wing crap. You continue to get fake news from Fox Fake News. Grow a pair and start thinking for yourself and start reading credible news sources.
It's funny cause I was just saying this exact same thing to one of my customers. They read this crap like it is a bible. Regardless of how consistently wrong they are. They always read it and even when their own crap is proven to be wrong, which is usually the case....they go back then call their own crap Fake News. Then go back and read it again when it says what they want it to say.
It's actually fun to watch. You see what FoxNews (The media outlet for sexual harassment) has done here? They are so noncommittal to this story it cracks me up because they want to just give the right wingers some ammo. They know this administration and its leader is going down like Bree Olsen. So, they start putting out this crap for them.
No authorized official has come to the conclusion they ran to here. Not one. The bottom line is these guys got a warrant legally....because there was nonsense going on at Trump Tower. The president doesn't have anything to do with authorizing wire taps. Instead of apologizing they are still trying to tie Obama to this. The question is what nonsense is going on? We won't know until this investigation is done. Trying to find crap to clear Trump in the meantime won't work. He has no respect right now....even from his own party who won't sign off on his crappy healthcare bill.
Lmfao it's fake news when it's Fix or a channel you don't like yet CNN has been caught being dishonest yet it's real. Funny you ignore the Muslim killing an American in London and you tell me to grow a pair.
What's funny is the fact that you'll say "they are wrong" yet you'll provide zero examples! So as usual it's more CD bullshit. No official has come forward? And you say I need to catch up? The head of the house Intel committee doesn't count? Lolol CD you must have had to catch up on your data entry and missed that! Obama and his cronies are being exposed for the frauds they are.
...and where exactly did he say Obama was complicit in an illegal wiretap?
Well like you've pointed out numerous times, Obama was President therefore it's on him!! You want to preach it live by it!
So now you'll acknowledge an official has verified this is valid? Lololol you must be busy typing and missed the news!
Great, then everyone that is in the Trump camp that has withheld information in regards to communicating with the Russians is on Trump...thanks.
No answer....then you got my response. Talk to me when I get the proof. Until then you don't know what you are talking about as usual. Carry on.
So your saying a directive from a Presidents staff is the same as withholding info? And sure I'll play your game. Who withheld info? You've said this for weeks yet never prove anyone withheld info! Give an example
Yes actually I do and presented the "official" which is why your back tracking and the sole reason you asked the question! Lmfao CD just give up seriously I've beaten you down, exposed you, proved you wrong ok facts! Your zero competition!
Not to throw into the overall argument here, but isn't it fair to say that every news organization has a bias or slant in their reporting? I mean really, I can't think of one, not one (my personal political views aside), who doesn't throw a lean into their reports. Petty sad when you think about it that we need to take that into consideration when we see or read a news report.
This isn't about a news organization slanting the news. Instead, it's about news outlets reporting irrefutable news when available. Fox Fake News, which is where this article originated, continues to push the right wing talking point that Obama wire tapped Trump's phone.
This crap has been rejected by the FBI and NSA but the right wingers continue to push this lie. They will do anything to cover up the incompetence of this WH and the treasonous acts by Trump and his Merry Men.
Yeah, but come on, that is happening on what is considered the liberal networks as well. They are just pushing the anti Trump agenda. Just because the left wants it to be true doesn't mean that it is.
My point is I don't believe there is a non bias news organization out there. EVERYONE HAS AN AGENDA!
I get your point and agree news outlets in general do slant the news. However, we are discussing a factual piece of news regarding a former president who was accused of a felony. This lie is being perpetuated by certain news outlets to further their agenda to tarnish the reputation of Obama.
Wait...what if the Intelligence Agencies say something about it? Does that mean it still isn't true? Forget the news outlets. Look at the intelligence reports. Are we supposed to ignore those too? Hell, these people are republican heading these agencies man. If they are saying Obama has not wire tapped trump, we are supposed to ignore that because a liberal outlet is just reporting what they are saying? However, if foxnews comes out and says something speculative and not based on the intelligence agencies comments we believe that?
I follow the most credible sources. These intelligence agencies are more credible than all of them.
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It's 5 pm, and there is no winning an argument here. But come on, you follow the sources that coincide with your opinion CD. Nothing wrong with that, most of us do.
Maybe I should have started a thread with this topic as opposed to putting it here. But the comment was made about Fox news being fake. However, other news organizations have been caught pushing their agendas and trying to convince everyone that they're facts, yet theirs are real?
I didn't read the article the OP posted, I never do no matter who puts them on here. I figure if it becomes fact there will be a consensus among the news outlets. Till then it's all one sided, bias BS. No matter who's side you are on, what you believe in, or what you hope is "truth". It's crap!
Agree 100%. I stated in another thread that the days of Ted Koppel are long gone. The media nowadays is either slanted to the left or right. No more unbiased reporting. For me, I switch back and forth between CNN and Fox. I will not touch MSNBC or Breitbart because they are not just leaning to the left and right.....they're breaking through the wall with a sledge hammer.
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It's been rejected a week ago!! Cems turn the news on!! House Intel has documents this is now a reality! Obama and his people a loud to get fried
If so why are you ignoring what the house Intel head is saying about NSA and FBI wiretapping and surveilling Trump? And your so full of shit, all the hold overs are Dems! And you know your a bullshitter! This info was collected under Obama, heads now are Repubs! Your just a bullshit artist
Lololol you need to buy a dog, yournto desperate for friends and approval. It's pathetic
Wait...are you trying to tell all of us we shouldn't follow the intelligence agencies as a viable source? Come on dude. Please stop.
Yeah no doubt! Read your posts you sound like a kid in the 7th grade trying to make friends
CD, I am not the one on here who is calling you out everyday. But really, go back and read the second and third paragraphs of the post of mine that you are responding to.
Like I said, maybe it should have been in its own thread, and my bad for that.
Nobody here calls me out everyday dude....and I already read them. They don't have anything to do with what I am asking. Which was are we not supposed to consider intelligence agencies a viable news source? What you are referring to are news outlets. I am talking about intelligence agencies information they are providing for them. Are we not supposed to consider this a viable source? The FBI and other similar agencies have intel. Does this mean we don't consider it because it is biased? It's a simple question.
Lol you don't get called out everyday? Nah! Another classic lie. Yes he's correct those are unsourced liberal slanted articles! Funny though you ignore the FBI and NSA when they show Obama in the wrong
I don't know. What about when those same organizations absolve Trump regarding any Russian ties? Then do they matter, and are they viable? If so, then why are people still commebting about those things? You see, I am not commenting on the OP's posted article (for the third time!). I don't care. I don't care about the shit you post either, cause just like everything else, it's crap (for the second time), because it's based on bias reporting (almost everytime).
You keep harping on one thing like I am arguing with you. I'm not (believe it or not). I am saying, quite simply I might add, that ALL NEWS ORGANIZATIONS HAVE AN AGENDA!! ALL OF THEM! There is no unbiased news reporting ANYMORE. Hell, maybe there never was.
And to your overall question I would say this; I am not one to trust the government very often. So when you talk about government agencies I would say that yeah, maybe they are absolutely correct in their investigations. And maybe not. Perhaps they too have an agenda, depending on who is running that particular organization, or who they answer too. I don't know, I'm not a part of what they do. But since they are tied to the government I wouldn't treat everything they say as the gospel. But yes, maybe more times than not they're right. This isn't an anti Obama post CD, it's a response to someone who singled out Fox news as being fake. Unbelievably I am still trying to make my one and only point, which again is that all media outlets offer their opinions as facts, and all have an agenda. And that's sad CD. That's it brother. The only point I was trying to make. Just that and nothing more.
Nope...they did not. FBI said no evidence...and your boy saying he had something backtracked. Now, has nothing and has provided nothing. Sorry....oh, and we are expecting his resignation for that any day now.
I am asking a simple question. Not harping on anything. You aren't answering a very easy question to answer. You either trust these intelligence agencies or you don't. It isn't that complicated.
Nobody absolved Trump of anything. You had Nunes come out and say there was surveillance on Trump and there was not. He back tracked it the very next day. Apologized....and now his job is on the line. These agencies have a much higher standard. You can't have it both ways. You can't say well what about when they absolve trump, and then turn around and imply you can't trust them if they aren't in agreement with you. You either trust them or not.
You keep talking about FoxNews and Media outlets but I moved on from them. I am not talking about them. I am talking about what intelligence agencies are reporting to the people directly.
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