I don't know what you guys are even arguing anymore. Someone was freaking out about free healthcare. I said it's already free for old people so it's not as big of a change as they were acting like it is. You guys then are like, "uh it's not free, I pay 200 bucks a month". But you're receiving thousands of dollars in medical care and social security probably pays you more than you pay in health care premiums, so if you want to nit pick at the word free you can, but the overall point was we have socialized medicine for the millions of people in the United States and having more isn't a radical change.