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I have to admit you conservative cane's are right

Hoe about Sweden or Norway for the results of socialism?

You could. But you must also consider the combined population of both countries is about 2/3 that of Florida, less than 15 million. We have our 300 million. It just cannot work the same here and logistics prove this.
 
Do not care if you're white, black, Asian, republican, democrat, etc., but if you actually take the time to vote and vote Hilary without being coerced, you have a mental development situation that should be examined immediately.

As my wife said, "She is the one person I think is truly evil."
 
The GOPs main man

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LOL!!! You have to laugh at politics almost as much as you laugh at those who actually believe the crap that gets posted. I am currently laughing at the previous three picture posts by a lib, but honestly you see the same stupid crap by staunch conservatives as well. You can have a month long battle over how a bill is worded and one bill can be shot down trying to get one with better positioning passed and the party pushing the bill that is beaten down will accuse the other party of voting against God, babies, veterans, you name it. It's all bullshit from both sides as they vote against each others versions of bills trying to accomplish the same things, yet the uninformed will find pictures like those above and actually believe them.
 
Here are some facts.

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You're proving my point. You're not trying to have a discussion. You're just posting what supports your views. That's fine, but you're never going to convince someone to side with you by posting things that are so biased in one direction (whether that's left or right). I can present "facts" and "statistics" a hundred different ways to make the left or right look awful.

If you actually cared about having a discussion about causes of and solutions to the national debt, this is not how you start that conversation.
 
Well not matter what lense you want to look at it, the US is in a very dangerous financial situation with $18,663,878,790 in debt and terrorism expanding throughout the world. If you think that terrorists can't strike the world's financial sysytem, you are sadly mistaken. To protect US citizens is the president's number 1 priorty. The Daily Show never really confronts these problems.
Actually with the unfunded liabilities added in our debt is much much worse than the Bush or Obama admins were/are willing to admit!
 
So the liberal media failing to vet Obama's past and giving Hillary a pass on her email scandal and other corrupt issues, but tearing into Ben Carson is objective news reporting? For the liberals who believe we have to keep giving away "free" entitlements, I will pay your one way ticket to Venezuela so you can see the end result of socialism. If you actally dig into the liberal agenda, it mimmicks every book written on socialism.

"WORD" !!
 
Since the Republicrats and the me too Democans have taken over congress and the presidency, (1980), the middle class has shrunk. In 1810 the Census Bureau started to keep economic stats. In every census from 1820-1980 the middle class expanded and middle class income was up. Since then, middle class income and numbers are down. I have not voted for any incumbant (Democan or Republicrat) since 2004. The only two candidates who might support the middle class are Trump and Bernie. If you are voting for anybody else, you are voting for a person who loves China and Vietnam (both socialist dictators) and who hates the U. S. middle class. Q. E. D.
If you want " CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN", re-elect no one.
 
Since the Republicrats and the me too Democans have taken over congress and the presidency, (1980), the middle class has shrunk. In 1810 the Census Bureau started to keep economic stats. In every census from 1820-1980 the middle class expanded and middle class income was up. Since then, middle class income and numbers are down. I have not voted for any incumbant (Democan or Republicrat) since 2004. The only two candidates who might support the middle class are Trump and Bernie. If you are voting for anybody else, you are voting for a person who loves China and Vietnam (both socialist dictators) and who hates the U. S. middle class. Q. E. D.
If you want " CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN", re-elect no one.
I agree with you. I'm registered Republican, but truly can't stand most politicians, regardless of party. I've voted for Bill Clinton (thought he was great because he was willing to compromise and move to the middle), I voted for W once and against him once. Never voted for Obama -- I saw through his charade. It's alarming to me how many people support a socialist like Bernie. This country became the greatest country on earth by a strong capitalist system. We need term limits and get rid of these aristocrats that think they're royalty.
 
No, but I am sure it will deter some. People don't obey any laws but are they are effective as a deterrent. You don't just say it isn't illegal to break into a car because it won't stop some people.

To your analogy, No one saying that it should be legal to brake into a car just that it shouldn't be illegal to own tools because a very negligable percent of people that have them use it to break into a cars.
 
I agree with you. I'm registered Republican, but truly can't stand most politicians, regardless of party. I've voted for Bill Clinton (thought he was great because he was willing to compromise and move to the middle), I voted for W once and against him once. Never voted for Obama -- I saw through his charade. It's alarming to me how many people support a socialist like Bernie. This country became the greatest country on earth by a strong capitalist system. We need term limits and get rid of these aristocrats that think they're royalty.
Too much obstruction going on to do much...and it won't matter who else gets in at this point. They will be obstructed by the opposing party as a result of what is going on now. Then they will move to executive actions to be called a dictator. IT's the new political system...and Obama has done well all considered. Bernie is too far left. He is Ted Cruz for a Democrat. Too far either direction is nutty. You are correct. You have to try to move to the middle or nothing gets done at all. They all run up debt. No exceptions so Obama has done nothing they don't all do. It was to be expected particularly when there is a recession. The only way out is to invest. That cost money. The Dow is doing well and I have made a lot of money as a result. Obama has done well all things considered.
 
Best post of the thread!!!! Posted like a Boss! Very accurate! It is what it is and they are the facts!

Very objective fact finding through a site called Office of the Democractic Leader.. I bet if I go on the Office of the Republican Leader I'll find the opposite lol, you only post what's good for you not the truth. I'm a young conservative and I can even admits the faults of my party yet older men like you think democracts are perfect and do no wrong.
 
Very objective fact finding through a site called Office of the Democractic Leader.. I bet if I go on the Office of the Republican Leader I'll find the opposite lol, you only post what's good for you not the truth. I'm a young conservative and I can even admits the faults of my party yet older men like you think democracts are perfect and do no wrong.

Dude you are making a pretty huge assumption. This chart is factual. It's math and that is universal. It could care less what site you are on. Your debt is your debt bro. Being democrat or conservative doesn't change it either.
 
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The Democrat party has moved so far to the left that John F Kennedy would be considered a conservative today. "Ask not what your country can do for you .Ask what you can do for your country" That statement is the exact opposite of Obama and his commies that ran adds touting how the government would take care of a fatherless family from cradle to grave.
Kennedy cut taxes and was strong against crime and pro military. The Dems have succeeded in increasing dependent 3rd world immigrants to establish a voting base that votes not for opportunity and freedom but for government handouts. That started with the Ted Kennedy sponsored bill that vastly increased immigration mostly from 3rd world nations. Now over 50 years later deficits are through the roof Welfare is at an all time high and growth norms are at their lowest in decades. The military is in disrepair and the media is more concerned about transgender rights than the security of the country.
Its a country in decline that may very well no longer have a population capable of voting itself out of it. The left is analagous to a depressed narcissist. filled with self loathing ,the need for incessant change due to prolonged innate dissatisfaction. It is incapable of tolerance for anyone that doesnt think the same way they do. Thats why they try to silence speech in universities and lately at political campaign rallies. Emulating Europe which is failing ,disdaining religion and the constitution and existing statutes that they dont agree with are their mantra.
 
The Democrat party has moved so far to the left that John F Kennedy would be considered a conservative today. "Ask not what your country can do for you .Ask what you can do for your country" That statement is the exact opposite of Obama and his commies that ran adds touting how the government would take care of a fatherless family from cradle to grave.
Kennedy cut taxes and was strong against crime and pro military. The Dems have succeeded in increasing dependent 3rd world immigrants to establish a voting base that votes not for opportunity and freedom but for government handouts. That started with the Ted Kennedy sponsored bill that vastly increased immigration mostly from 3rd world nations. Now over 50 years later deficits are through the roof Welfare is at an all time high and growth norms are at their lowest in decades. The military is in disrepair and the media is more concerned about transgender rights than the security of the country.
Its a country in decline that may very well no longer have a population capable of voting itself out of it. The left is analagous to a depressed narcissist. filled with self loathing ,the need for incessant change due to prolonged innate dissatisfaction. It is incapable of tolerance for anyone that doesnt think the same way they do. Thats why they try to silence speech in universities and lately at political campaign rallies. Emulating Europe which is failing ,disdaining religion and the constitution and existing statutes that they dont agree with are their mantra.

JFK would not be considered conservative today. Yes, a bit more of a moderate but don't ignore what is going on with the republican party moving to the right either. It has moved to the right and Reagan would be considered a RINO in todays republican party. He is the president that republicans use as some standard as a good president and spent more money than anyone. He had well over a hundred people in his administration investigated for something including himself. He frequently raised taxes 11 times. The only time he cut them was for rich people who didn't need it. He nearly tripled the federal budget deficit when he was in office. He grew the size of federal government considerably. He gave amnesty to over 3 million immigrants. He was way more liberal by conservatives standards than any real conservative would care to admit.
 
The only difference in the "conservative" legislators you republicans support, and the "liberal" Clinton type legislators, is that the republicans, after they let their owners export the middle class to communist china, communist vietnam etc. they call the unemployed/homeless/underemployed/underpaid lazy and kick them in the butt. the democrats put them on food stamps and give them psychological counseling. Other than Bernie, and maybe Trump, all of the remaining candidates are confirmed middle class exporters (read free traders (traitors?)) In the last 36 years the middle class has shrunk. Never happened before in any decade since the USCB started keeping econ stats in 1810. So all of you can take your pro-commie, anti US middle class opinions..... Did Lincoln say may this government of the multi-nationals, by the 1 percenters and for big drug companies and big banks not perish from the Earth? Maybe not.
As for national health insurance, because we really don't have it, even under Obamacare, we have maintained our lead as having the highest infant mortality rate among advanced countries in the world.
Under national health insurance you choose your doctor. Without it, your insurance company chooses the lowest bidder.
Think about it, and re-elect the best candidate: NO ONE.
 
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this is the stuff parents of players and recruits need to see. Make sure the guys know these people don't care about you. You look out for yourself...do what is best for you and don't think the fans see you anymore than what they are showing you now.
Thank you. Whatever side you are on, they could give 2 shits about you or your situation. All this bickering and disrespect is uncalled for.
@bbcane I'm curious as to why you feel ALL who support black lives matter are thugs and need to be ran over.
 
Lmao.why would any sane person put themselves in a box?dem .over here rep. over there.the sane thing to do is to just vote for the person who you think is the best for the job?how can amerikkka ever come together if the powerful people at the top keep the divide agenda going with dem.and rep why not get rid of both parties and just be people who show up on voting day and picking who they think is best for the job?is that so hard?everyone should be independent.so ya'll telling me if you are a rep.and a duck,cat,pig are your choices and you are a dem and your choice are.dog,rat,bird..and then you have a man running as an independent who would you vote for?.so ya'll are telling me that you can't vote for the man because he's not in your party?That's some bull shit and that's what's wrong with Amerikkka..when Amerikkka gets the balls to throw the constitution and the laws which was created for one race of people and was never meant for the race's that where inslaved of its founding father in the trash can where they belong..and create a new constitution to include all people no matter race,creed,or color. then we will be as one voice and can truly call ourselves the land of the free..until Amerikkka give's every race a chance to be president then i will always spell it with three k..we can never call ourselves the melting pot when the shit is clearly black and white.dem or rep.when we get rid of these stupid ass titles and come together as one force of people of all races that's when we will become America!..How can somebody say lets make Amerikkka great again when its never been fair to all the race's that live in it.when was it great?? or Lets take Amerikka back where has it been when it never was,nothing but one-sided from the start .Amerikka only wants world peace when its the one giving orders.no matter who the president is as long as the agenda that was set in place from the start stays in place thats all they care about they already done picked the next president,politics is a dirty ass game and its played behind the scene.if it was up to the people then why is a electoral vote need?until we bring down the agenda then we will always be at war with each other,.i ask the rep.on here why would you want to go backward instead of moving forward?trump say take it back and i say why not move it forward?taking it back only benefits one race of people if you people on here that claims you are not racist then why support someone who wants too take amerikkka backwards instead of moving forward?and to the dem,candidates they need too stop with the lying,crying,and broken promises..just look at the people that's running on both sides all of them suck and ant worth a ****!and ya'll on here ripping each other apart for these mfker!!we suppose to be canes fans..now weather ya'll like it or not we have become divided because of politics,and racist..our fan base the last 4months is at a all time divide,i love miami because they always had the us against the world mentality.I always took pride in being a canes fan i thought we was all on the same page from the feild to the stands.it ment something to be apart of the hurricane family.now i no longer feel the same i can no longer look at most fellow cane fans as family and it has nothing too do with the feild or winning or losing..im quickly finding out who i can have a good convo with through out the season and who i need too leave the hell alone..wake up people and stop with the politics post its killing our fan base..37years of being a hurricane fan i have never seen it like this and thought i never would,not at the U baby but as of now i see i was clearly wrong..We as cane fans need too fix this and fix it now amongs each other we dont need to go crying to gary to fix this lets show as fans and as people that we can put our personal mess to the side and suport our boyz and girls of the U..im a black activist and i'm willing to make the first step and put all my personal opioins outside of sports on the back burner and not bring them in here..this is a sports board and religan and politics should have no place on here in any of the forms..i came here for the sports but when i see some shit that sounds racist too me then im gonna say something..i'm offering to be the first one too stop this bullshit but im only gonna offer once...because this shit is turning into hard feelings towards certain fans...I have seen that look on people's face who talked shit on the internet only to walk out the store and the person you was talking shit too is standing in front of your face ready to beat your ass,its so easy to get cought slipping out here avitar's or not its so easy to find a person trust me i know...so lets get it together and stop this madness family lets fix this amongs each other if we can do that then imagin how tight we can become as a fan base that came together and fixed a major problem amongs themselves..sorry for the long post but im trying to bring peace and when you dealing with the hard headed and the stubborn it takes a lot of words..lol..hope you all have a great day...lets make a change
 
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