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agree with Mel Kiper about Njoku & Kaaya. I've said it before this time rolled around that Kaaya should come back for his SR & Njoku really wasn't a story until lately. On Yearby, He may as well go & take his chances. Really can't see him transferring even to a JUCO. If he get's drafted in any round, he will still be better off than coming. back & being used very sparingly.

Kaaya even if taken late in the 2nd would be doing himself a disservice all the way around. Coming back will not only pretty much assure him 1st rd status but, he will be so much more polished with another year under this system & staff. While he's an old JR as far as playing time, he still just has not matured all the way physically like another whole year to work with Felder & Kyle. Our OL will be night & day different next year & that too will help him put up stats that will take another REAL special QB to beat, especially in ALL TIME YDS. His TD to INT ratio next year should be something that just wows all of CFB & Pro Scouts. He will more than likely be in the early Heisman talks if he does the right thing come back & show out like a CANE QB does. A winning CANE QB- He needs that FSU win & at the very least a ACCCG appearance to end his career here in a way that is compatible to his stats

As far as Njoku- No way he should bolt with a 5th or 6th rd being projected. The way his brother has jetted all around this summer to visit schools & whatever, not like he absolutely has to declare to help his family. I don't know their situation but it seems like they OK so, he needs to come back & just ball out like this whole team can & will. If Brad decides to come back, he shouldn't even give it another thought..
 
I think @Azar is afraid to respond to @foulkes in the OSU shooter thread.
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I think @Azar is afraid to respond to @foulkes in the OSU shooter thread.

I notice you obsess with individual when you feel butt hurt. Why don't you ask one of your homo lovers to kiss it on your next night of romance. Maybe it'll help you get over all those bad things that mean ole black man Azar said to you...Rub some shea butter or somethin on that shyt...I'm sorry Ms, I'm not a switch hitter so you can get me out of your mind. Lol
 
I think @Azar is afraid to respond to @foulkes in the OSU shooter thread.

You very much remind me of the ski slope azzhole on south park. This is about what you sound like every time you refer to whatever the hell post you speak about, pretty amusing nevertheless, senior homthug.

 
Besides the fact I have no clue what post this jackazz keeps mentioning, yes thank your god. Lol
Here you go.....I'm here to help.


"I wasn't sure which Race you were condeming. Is is White Caucasian-European? or is it all white Races? Therefore to get at your racist thesis I have pasted a summary.

The Five Human Races

Ethnologists have generally divided human beings into five distinct classes. But although the primitive types are well and strongly marked, yet from amalgamation, climatic influences, and various other causes, the sharp lines are in many instances almost obliterated. We append a description of the different races as they appear in their pure and unmixed condition.

The Five Human Races, Ethiopian. American. Caucasian. Mongolian. Esquimaux.

The Black Or Negro Race

The Negro, proper, inhabits all that part of Africa from Senegal along the coast of Guinea south of the Equator, to the 16th degree of latitude. Voluntarily the Negro never leaves this country, but, from being carried into involuntary servitude, millions of this people are now to be found in America, the West Indies, and other parts of the world. Their most striking characteristics are the jetty blackness of skin, black, crisp, curly hair, low forehead, high cheek-bones, flat, broad nose, broad and small chin, strong, white teeth. The skull is deficient in all the higher intellectual manifestations.

The Hottentots and Caffres of South Africa, though black, and generally classed with Negroes, differ from them on many points. The Negroes are often called Ethiopians. This is a mistake; the Ethiopians were the inhabitants of the Upper Nile and Abyssinia, and though a dark, were by no means a black race. The Negroes have no written language; the Arabic is generally used for all business purposes.

The Red Or Indian Race

This race occupied the whole of the two Americas and the neighboring islands; although there were manifest differences in the people of the North and those of the South. The North American Indians are tall and straight, forehead low and broad, nose aquiline, eyes black and deeply set, full lips, skin a warm, coppery red, hair long, black, and straight. They show rather a lack of disposition than of ability to become proficient in the arts of agriculture and manufacture.

White Or Caucasian Race

The Caucasian race occupies all of Europe, Western Asia, Australia, and the greater part of America. Skin varying from a pure white to a rich brown, hair all shades, from blonde to black, beardfull, soft and flowing, nose high and thin, lips medium. Surpass all other races in ability to comprehend and work out both mental and physical problems. This race is gradually but surely dominating the habitable part of the globe.

Yellow, or Mongolian. - This race dwells principally in the East Indies, China, Japan, and the adjacent islands. In person they are usually small, slender, and remarkable for their agility and skillful manipulation; excelling in taste and execution, rather than invention. Skull small and narrow, with rather flat sides, forehead low and retreating, skin a yellowish tawny, eyes narrow and almond-shaped, hair long, black, and straight, beard very scanty.

The Samoids, Esquimaux, and Tartars. - These people are all supposed to have had a commonorigin, and their differences are attributed to local habitation or other accidental circumstances. They are short in stature, but sturdy, foreheads low, eyes narrow, nose flat, hair black and straight. In many respects they closely resemble the Mongolian race. The Tartars show capacity for improvement, but the Esquimaux, owing to their painful struggle for mere existence, have little opportunity to exhibit their mental abilities. They are docile and kind.

I am assuming that your rants cover 3 races which is about 90% of the people on earth. Please note the charateristics of each. All Races are violent, have killed and enslaved people including the Black race. All people, including you, are racist, whether it be conscious or subconscious. Some are more racist than others. Whether the White Caucasians are "most violent race of people having committed mass murder and genocide on every continent you've come upon" has nothing to do with us, the board or Miami football in general. In fact, by your own posts, you are undoubtedly violent, racist and full of a vile hatred seldom seen here..

We (homo sapiens) all come from a common ancestor which lived between 200,000 and 300,00 years ago in Africa. There was a migration out Africa about 100,000 years ago which spread throughout the world. While 3 of the races evolved, the Black or Negro race for the most part, did not. Western culture the "Minoans" originated in Crete around 2,000 years ago and spread to Greece city states. You now live in the the Western Culture and while it is violent is is also the greatest civilization ever created. I suggest you learn to live with it or leave to a more passive non-developed location. For the time being, Caucasians dominate the word whether you like it or not.

Just for your edification. I hate racism."


“The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” William Shakespeare, As You Like It
96 foulkes, Dec 1, 2016
Last edited: Dec 1, 2016
 
Here you go.....I'm here to help.


"I wasn't sure which Race you were condeming. Is is White Caucasian-European? or is it all white Races? Therefore to get at your racist thesis I have pasted a summary.

The Five Human Races

Ethnologists have generally divided human beings into five distinct classes. But although the primitive types are well and strongly marked, yet from amalgamation, climatic influences, and various other causes, the sharp lines are in many instances almost obliterated. We append a description of the different races as they appear in their pure and unmixed condition.

The Five Human Races, Ethiopian. American. Caucasian. Mongolian. Esquimaux.

The Black Or Negro Race

The Negro, proper, inhabits all that part of Africa from Senegal along the coast of Guinea south of the Equator, to the 16th degree of latitude. Voluntarily the Negro never leaves this country, but, from being carried into involuntary servitude, millions of this people are now to be found in America, the West Indies, and other parts of the world. Their most striking characteristics are the jetty blackness of skin, black, crisp, curly hair, low forehead, high cheek-bones, flat, broad nose, broad and small chin, strong, white teeth. The skull is deficient in all the higher intellectual manifestations.

The Hottentots and Caffres of South Africa, though black, and generally classed with Negroes, differ from them on many points. The Negroes are often called Ethiopians. This is a mistake; the Ethiopians were the inhabitants of the Upper Nile and Abyssinia, and though a dark, were by no means a black race. The Negroes have no written language; the Arabic is generally used for all business purposes.

The Red Or Indian Race

This race occupied the whole of the two Americas and the neighboring islands; although there were manifest differences in the people of the North and those of the South. The North American Indians are tall and straight, forehead low and broad, nose aquiline, eyes black and deeply set, full lips, skin a warm, coppery red, hair long, black, and straight. They show rather a lack of disposition than of ability to become proficient in the arts of agriculture and manufacture.

White Or Caucasian Race

The Caucasian race occupies all of Europe, Western Asia, Australia, and the greater part of America. Skin varying from a pure white to a rich brown, hair all shades, from blonde to black, beardfull, soft and flowing, nose high and thin, lips medium. Surpass all other races in ability to comprehend and work out both mental and physical problems. This race is gradually but surely dominating the habitable part of the globe.

Yellow, or Mongolian. - This race dwells principally in the East Indies, China, Japan, and the adjacent islands. In person they are usually small, slender, and remarkable for their agility and skillful manipulation; excelling in taste and execution, rather than invention. Skull small and narrow, with rather flat sides, forehead low and retreating, skin a yellowish tawny, eyes narrow and almond-shaped, hair long, black, and straight, beard very scanty.

The Samoids, Esquimaux, and Tartars. - These people are all supposed to have had a commonorigin, and their differences are attributed to local habitation or other accidental circumstances. They are short in stature, but sturdy, foreheads low, eyes narrow, nose flat, hair black and straight. In many respects they closely resemble the Mongolian race. The Tartars show capacity for improvement, but the Esquimaux, owing to their painful struggle for mere existence, have little opportunity to exhibit their mental abilities. They are docile and kind.

I am assuming that your rants cover 3 races which is about 90% of the people on earth. Please note the charateristics of each. All Races are violent, have killed and enslaved people including the Black race. All people, including you, are racist, whether it be conscious or subconscious. Some are more racist than others. Whether the White Caucasians are "most violent race of people having committed mass murder and genocide on every continent you've come upon" has nothing to do with us, the board or Miami football in general. In fact, by your own posts, you are undoubtedly violent, racist and full of a vile hatred seldom seen here..

We (homo sapiens) all come from a common ancestor which lived between 200,000 and 300,00 years ago in Africa. There was a migration out Africa about 100,000 years ago which spread throughout the world. While 3 of the races evolved, the Black or Negro race for the most part, did not. Western culture the "Minoans" originated in Crete around 2,000 years ago and spread to Greece city states. You now live in the the Western Culture and while it is violent is is also the greatest civilization ever created. I suggest you learn to live with it or leave to a more passive non-developed location. For the time being, Caucasians dominate the word whether you like it or not.

Just for your edification. I hate racism."


“The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” William Shakespeare, As You Like It
96 foulkes, Dec 1, 2016
Last edited: Dec 1, 2016

Yooo, this is the b.s. you were so hyped about me responding to??? So again, I see why racism persists. As long as uneducated, mis-educated mf's like you believe all the b.s. about race of which you've been condition we will continue to deal with this psychosis you all are infected with.

Now Mr. Foulkes, re: your breakdown of the so-called races. Are you aware that the concept of race is a myth? It's a pseudo-science based on nothing more than some quack azz, racist scientist to justify the enslavement and domination over people of darker skin color. http://myria.com/tracing-the-history-of-racism-race-based-pseudoscience.

There's absolutely no scientific bases to it which renders the above breakdown a crock of shyt. It's kinda like me breaking down the difference in super heroes and their powers, it's senseless as none of them exist. Comprende?

If you and homothug, which I know for a fact he has a problem doing, can listen to scientific fact narrated by someone other than a white man, here's a scientific breakdown of man and the why race is a myth. It is not black people who are hung up on this myth, it's the fact that we have to deal with those who somehow believe that they're superior because they lack melanin (i.e. those with white skin) and unfortunately, have the socio-economic system and military might to impose such a psychosis. This is why I deal with it as I do, not because I believe in the bullshyt concept. Yes, so I have been forced to come into your fantasy world to an extent but by no means do I subscribe to it.
 
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Yooo, this is the b.s. you were so hyped about me responding to??? So again, I see why racism persists. As long as uneducated, mis-educated mf's like you believe all the b.s. about race of which you've been condition we will continue to deal with this psychosis you all are infected with.

Now Mr. Foulkes, re: your breakdown of the so-called races. Are you aware that the concept of race is a myth? It's a pseudo-science based on nothing more than some quack azz, racist scientist to justify the enslavement and domination over people of darker skin color. http://myria.com/tracing-the-history-of-racism-race-based-pseudoscience.

There's absolutely no scientific bases to it which renders the above breakdown a crock of shyt. It's kinda like me breaking down the difference in super heroes and their powers, it's senseless as none of them exist. Comprende?

If you and homothug, which I know for a fact he has a problem doing, can listen to scientific fact narrated by someone other than a white man, here's a scientific breakdown of man and the why race is a myth. It is not black people who are hung up on this myth, it's the fact that we have to deal with those who somehow believe that they're superior because they lack melanin (i.e. those with white skin) and unfortunately, have the socio-economic system and military might to impose such a psychosis. This is why I deal with it as I do, not because I believe in the bullshyt concept. Yes, so I have been forced to come into your fantasy world to an extent but by no means do I subscribe to it.
@foulkes your reply to his reply ?
 
Yooo, this is the b.s. you were so hyped about me responding to??? So again, I see why racism persists. As long as uneducated, mis-educated mf's like you believe all the b.s. about race of which you've been condition we will continue to deal with this psychosis you all are infected with.

Now Mr. Foulkes, re: your breakdown of the so-called races. Are you aware that the concept of race is a myth? It's a pseudo-science based on nothing more than some quack azz, racist scientist to justify the enslavement and domination over people of darker skin color. http://myria.com/tracing-the-history-of-racism-race-based-pseudoscience.

There's absolutely no scientific bases to it which renders the above breakdown a crock of shyt. It's kinda like me breaking down the difference in super heroes and their powers, it's senseless as none of them exist. Comprende?

If you and homothug, which I know for a fact he has a problem doing, can listen to scientific fact narrated by someone other than a white man, here's a scientific breakdown of man and the why race is a myth. It is not black people who are hung up on this myth, it's the fact that we have to deal with those who somehow believe that they're superior because they lack melanin (i.e. those with white skin) and unfortunately, have the socio-economic system and military might to impose such a psychosis. This is why I deal with it as I do, not because I believe in the bullshyt concept. Yes, so I have been forced to come into your fantasy world to an extent but by no means do I subscribe to it.
Ok without races there is no racism.
 
Here you go.....I'm here to help.


"I wasn't sure which Race you were condeming. Is is White Caucasian-European? or is it all white Races? Therefore to get at your racist thesis I have pasted a summary.

The Five Human Races

Ethnologists have generally divided human beings into five distinct classes. But although the primitive types are well and strongly marked, yet from amalgamation, climatic influences, and various other causes, the sharp lines are in many instances almost obliterated. We append a description of the different races as they appear in their pure and unmixed condition.

The Five Human Races, Ethiopian. American. Caucasian. Mongolian. Esquimaux.

The Black Or Negro Race

The Negro, proper, inhabits all that part of Africa from Senegal along the coast of Guinea south of the Equator, to the 16th degree of latitude. Voluntarily the Negro never leaves this country, but, from being carried into involuntary servitude, millions of this people are now to be found in America, the West Indies, and other parts of the world. Their most striking characteristics are the jetty blackness of skin, black, crisp, curly hair, low forehead, high cheek-bones, flat, broad nose, broad and small chin, strong, white teeth. The skull is deficient in all the higher intellectual manifestations.

The Hottentots and Caffres of South Africa, though black, and generally classed with Negroes, differ from them on many points. The Negroes are often called Ethiopians. This is a mistake; the Ethiopians were the inhabitants of the Upper Nile and Abyssinia, and though a dark, were by no means a black race. The Negroes have no written language; the Arabic is generally used for all business purposes.

The Red Or Indian Race

This race occupied the whole of the two Americas and the neighboring islands; although there were manifest differences in the people of the North and those of the South. The North American Indians are tall and straight, forehead low and broad, nose aquiline, eyes black and deeply set, full lips, skin a warm, coppery red, hair long, black, and straight. They show rather a lack of disposition than of ability to become proficient in the arts of agriculture and manufacture.

White Or Caucasian Race

The Caucasian race occupies all of Europe, Western Asia, Australia, and the greater part of America. Skin varying from a pure white to a rich brown, hair all shades, from blonde to black, beardfull, soft and flowing, nose high and thin, lips medium. Surpass all other races in ability to comprehend and work out both mental and physical problems. This race is gradually but surely dominating the habitable part of the globe.

Yellow, or Mongolian. - This race dwells principally in the East Indies, China, Japan, and the adjacent islands. In person they are usually small, slender, and remarkable for their agility and skillful manipulation; excelling in taste and execution, rather than invention. Skull small and narrow, with rather flat sides, forehead low and retreating, skin a yellowish tawny, eyes narrow and almond-shaped, hair long, black, and straight, beard very scanty.

The Samoids, Esquimaux, and Tartars. - These people are all supposed to have had a commonorigin, and their differences are attributed to local habitation or other accidental circumstances. They are short in stature, but sturdy, foreheads low, eyes narrow, nose flat, hair black and straight. In many respects they closely resemble the Mongolian race. The Tartars show capacity for improvement, but the Esquimaux, owing to their painful struggle for mere existence, have little opportunity to exhibit their mental abilities. They are docile and kind.

I am assuming that your rants cover 3 races which is about 90% of the people on earth. Please note the charateristics of each. All Races are violent, have killed and enslaved people including the Black race. All people, including you, are racist, whether it be conscious or subconscious. Some are more racist than others. Whether the White Caucasians are "most violent race of people having committed mass murder and genocide on every continent you've come upon" has nothing to do with us, the board or Miami football in general. In fact, by your own posts, you are undoubtedly violent, racist and full of a vile hatred seldom seen here..

We (homo sapiens) all come from a common ancestor which lived between 200,000 and 300,00 years ago in Africa. There was a migration out Africa about 100,000 years ago which spread throughout the world. While 3 of the races evolved, the Black or Negro race for the most part, did not. Western culture the "Minoans" originated in Crete around 2,000 years ago and spread to Greece city states. You now live in the the Western Culture and while it is violent is is also the greatest civilization ever created. I suggest you learn to live with it or leave to a more passive non-developed location. For the time being, Caucasians dominate the word whether you like it or not.

Just for your edification. I hate racism."


“The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” William Shakespeare, As You Like It
96 foulkes, Dec 1, 2016
Last edited: Dec 1, 2016
I come from the tribe of Abraham..
 
Ok without races there is no racism.

Really? Is this the most intelligent response you have? What you've just concluded, and I'll refer back to my super hero reference, is that based on the fact that super heroes are not real the movies, comic books, costumes, etc. made in their image also do not exist. What kind of ridiculous azz logic is that? None of the Greek Gods ever existed but you had an entire country/nation of people living by their belief in them. Heaven or hell doesn't exist, none of the stories in the bible are real yet you have millions of people living under the belief system. So if the best you can reason or comment after the mountain of facts I've presented to you is some elementary azz logic about racism not existing then surely homothug gave you way too much intellectual credit.
 
Really? Is this the most intelligent response you have? What you've just concluded, and I'll refer back to my super hero reference, is that based on the fact that super heroes are not real the movies, comic books, costumes, etc. made in their image also do not exist. What kind of ridiculous azz logic is that? None of the Greek Gods ever existed but you had an entire country/nation of people living by their belief in them. Heaven or hell doesn't exist, none of the stories in the bible are real yet you have millions of people living under the belief system. So if the best you can reason or comment after the mountain of facts I've presented to you is some elementary azz logic about racism not existing then surely homothug gave you way too much intellectual credit.

I listened to the first part of the video and it said essentially what I wrote about as far as common ancestors and migration out of Africa. The second part (and I did not view the entire video) seems to say that the concept of race is fiction which is your belief. Anthropologists disagree as to whether race exists. I happen to believe in Heaven and Hell and God and Jesus and that races exist. So we disagree on theses fundamental issues.
What is the point?

Human Races Exist: Refuting 11 Common Arguments Against the Existence of Race

I am a race realist, meaning that I think human races are real and important. Many people, especially in the social sciences, are race deniers, meaning that they deny either that race is real or that it is important. The vast majority of the time, race deniers will use the same handful of arguments to make their case. So in this post I am going to respond to, and hopefully refute, the eleven arguments I hear most often from race deniers. The responses that I give won’t be the only responses to these arguments that are possible, but they will be the ones that I think refute race denialism in the simplest, and quickest, way possible.

Before going into said arguments, I want to briefly state what race is and why it is a valid biological concept. A race is just a subspecies, meaning a set of populations that have evolved somewhat separately from other populations within the same species and, as a result, exhibits some interesting genetic and physical differences. These populations are defined geographically, because geography was the main limiting factor to human mating for most of prehistory. (It’s hard to mate with people who live on the other side of seas, oceans, mountains, and deserts.)

Categorizing people this way is useful because groups that evolve together end up resembling each other in countless ways. The fact that the races differ, on average, in terms of behavior, appearance, and genetics, has applications in medicine (races differ in disease rates and how they will respond to drugs for genetic reasons) (Riegos et al. 2015) (Ojodu et al. 2014), forensics (determining the race of an offender or victim via a biological criterion can be useful in identifying them) (Wade 2004), and the social sciences (the study of racial differences in crime, intelligence, personality, etc., is a major area of interest to many in these fields) (Rushton and Jensen 2005) (Lynn 2002) (Piffer 2015). Thus race is a concept rooted in biology and which is useful in science. To my mind, that makes it a valid scientific concept. With that said, let’s look at some of the most common arguments to the contrary:

No Credible Scientists Believe in Race

This is false and usually stated with no proper citation. As reviewed in (Liebermann et al. 2004), surveys show that many researchers around the world believe in the existence of human races:

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As can be seen, belief in race among researchers varies depending on where in the world you look. But the only place where there is anything like a consensus is China, and the consensus there is that race exists. The claim that no credible scientists believe in race is thus clearly false.

There Hasn't Been Enough Time for Races to Evolve

If evolution is occurring at a fast enough pace, very little time is needed for subspecies to evolve. In the case of humans, the races have been evolving separately for somewhere between 60,000 and 100,000 years. This is more than enough time for subspecies to evolve. For example, the Moose has evolved several subspecies in the last 100,000 years (Mikko and Andersson 1995), 2 subspecies of waterfowl evolved in less than 100,000 years (Wilson et al. 2011), 8 subspecies of tiger evolved in roughly 72,000 years (Lou et al. 2004), the LizardLaudakia stellioevolved 2 subspecies in 12,000 years (Brammah et al. 2010) and, finally, the polar bear has only been evolving separately from the brown bear for 70,000-100,000 years (Lindqvist et al. 2010). Moreover, it only took 200,000 years for Neanderthals and modern humans to evolve into separate species (or perhaps subspecies). Thus 100,000 years is clearly enough time for the races to have evolved significant differences.

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Really? Is this the most intelligent response you have? What you've just concluded, and I'll refer back to my super hero reference, is that based on the fact that super heroes are not real the movies, comic books, costumes, etc. made in their image also do not exist. What kind of ridiculous azz logic is that? None of the Greek Gods ever existed but you had an entire country/nation of people living by their belief in them. Heaven or hell doesn't exist, none of the stories in the bible are real yet you have millions of people living under the belief system. So if the best you can reason or comment after the mountain of facts I've presented to you is some elementary azz logic about racism not existing then surely homothug gave you way too much intellectual credit.

There Are No Race Genes


A “race gene” is a gene that is present in every member of one race and only members of that race. Such genes do not exist. Some people think that the non-existence of race genes shows that races don't exist either. But this does not follow, because no great racial theorist has ever utilized a notion of race that was contingent upon the existence of “race genes”. Prior to the 20th century, races were almost always defined by where your ancestors came from and what your hair, face, skull, skin color, and general anatomy looked like (Hamilton 2008). In the 20th century race continued to be tied to ancestry, but the traits scientists used to infer ancestry changed from observable physical traits to gene frequencies (Ayala 1985) (Reardon 2005 Chapter 2).

When race realists of the past talked about racial differences in gene frequencies they meant that certain genes were more common among some races than others. It never meant that every member of one race had a given gene that no member of any other race had. Because of this, the non-existence of race genes cannot be taken to demonstrate the non-existence of races.

You Can't Tell Someone’s Race by Their Genes

This is another claim which simply is not true. (Tang et al. 2004) were able to predict the self-identified race of Americans 99.8% of the time based on a moderate sampling of their genomes alone. Moreover, commercial services such as 23AndMe regularly analyze people's genomes to produce highly reliable estimates of their ancestry. Thus, contrary to what is often said, you can in fact tell someone’s race by looking at their genes.

Races Cannot Be Important Because We All Share 99% of Our DNA

We also share 95-98% of our DNA with chimps and, yet, there are some pretty big differences between us and chimps (Varki and Altheide 2009). Geneticists estimate that an average pair of humans will differ at 3 million base pairs in their DNA (Bamshad 2004). To put that in perspective, the genetic disease sickle cell anemia is caused by a mutation of 1 base pair. Clearly then, there is enough genetic diversity within the human species to cause some pretty significant differences.

In fact, according to a meta-analysis of every twin study done since 1950, which adds up to a sample size of 14,000,000, roughly half of the differences between people of the same race, whether you look at simple physical differences or psychological ones, are caused by genetics (Polderman et al. 2015). Given that the genetic distance between members of the same race is smaller than the genetic distance between members of different races, this data clearly shows that there are enough genetic differences between the races to cause important physical and psychological differences.

Human Races Are Not Genetically Distinct Enough To Be Valid Biological Categories

The most commonly used measure of the genetic distance between populations is called an Fst value. Humans have a higher Fst value than many other species which have recognized subspecies, meaning that human races are more genetically distinct than the subspecies in these other species. Thus, the genetic distance between races is sufficient for them to be considered subspecies.

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Sources:Elhaik 2012,Jackson et al. 2014,Lorenzen et al. 2008,Jordana 2003,Hofft et al. 2000, andSchwartz et al 2002.

There is More Genetic Variation Within Races than Between Them

This is related to those Fst values I just mentioned. An Fst value is the proportion of genetic variation within a species that is contained between populations rather than within them. It is true that the human Fst value is less than 0.5, meaning that less than 50% of our genetic variation is between populations. But this is normal in the animal kingdom and it is normal among species that have recognized subspecies. The above chart clearly shows that there are several species which have less variation between populations than humans do which also have recognized subspecies. Moreover, the genetic differences between races are more than enough to ensure that members of the same race are virtually always more genetically similar to one another than members of different races (Witherspoon et al. 2007).

Further still, as was reviewed above, the genetic distance between races is greater than the genetic distance between members of the same race, and genetic differences within race are enough to cause important differences in physical and mental traits. Because of this, the proportion of genetic variation contained between human races, rather than within them, cannot legitimately be used to discard the existence, or significance, of race.

Human Variation is Clinal, Not Racial

“Clinal” just means that human traits, and genetic differences, tend to change slowly and as a function of geography. For instance, as you move further from the Equator, skin color tends to become lighter. The point that race deniers are making is that this gradual change in variation doesn’t have any “hard lines” that demarcate one race from another. Instead, races blend into one another.

This is true but irrelevant. Scientists often impose discrete categories on continuous variation. For instance, color categories like “blue” and “green” are discrete categories imposed on the perfectly continuous variation that is the color spectrum. In fact, zoologists even have a word for situations in which subspecies are connected by intermediate populations that change in a clinal fashion:intergradation.

Besides, human genetic variation is not, in fact, just like the color spectrum. Same-race populations are more genetically similar than different-race populations even when all three populations are separated by the same geographic distance (Rosenberg 2005).

In summary, human genetic variation is not perfectly clinal and, even if it was, that would not preclude the imposition of discrete categories on human variation, nor would it be abnormal within the context of subspecies taxonomy. For these reasons, the cline argument fails to discredit race.
 
Really? Is this the most intelligent response you have? What you've just concluded, and I'll refer back to my super hero reference, is that based on the fact that super heroes are not real the movies, comic books, costumes, etc. made in their image also do not exist. What kind of ridiculous azz logic is that? None of the Greek Gods ever existed but you had an entire country/nation of people living by their belief in them. Heaven or hell doesn't exist, none of the stories in the bible are real yet you have millions of people living under the belief system. So if the best you can reason or comment after the mountain of facts I've presented to you is some elementary azz logic about racism not existing then surely homothug gave you way too much intellectual credit.
The Traits That Races Are Based On Are Arbitrary

This argument postulates that you could come up with mutually exclusive groupings of people based on different traits and that, because there is no objective method of choosing which traits to use, which grouping you decide to go with is arbitrary. For instance, you could group people based on skin color and, as a result, Africans and certain groups of Indians might be grouped together. Or you could group people based on height, in which case Indians and Africans would most certainly not be grouped together.

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Of course, populations are normally grouped based on sets of several characteristics. But the point remains: you can come up with different, mutually exclusive, ways of grouping people, and there is no obvious way of choosing which is correct. And, so the argument goes, if the basis for race is arbitrary then race itself must be arbitrary as well.

The problem with this argument is simple: races are defined by ancestry, not observable physical traits. As a consequence of being descended from different ancestral populations, the races differ in many characteristics. Such differences are correlated with race, but they do not define race. An albino African is still racially black. Thus, the argument that the characteristics that define race are arbitrary is based on a straw-man argument; again, observable traits do not define race, they just correlate with race.

A common line of response to this argument will be to say that the areas of ancestry that define race are also arbitrary. For instance, one might say that grouping together people that descend from Europe, as opposed to, say, southern Europeans and northern Africans, is an arbitrary decision.

This is wrong because the edges of the continents have historically restricted gene flow. In other words, people had a strong tendency to mate with people on the same continent as them and, as a result, they evolved together within a common gene pool. This is why, even when you take widely dispersed populations from throughout the world, when researchers have programs group people’s genetic data into 4-6 “clusters” which maximize the extent to which members of the same cluster are more genetically similar than members of other clusters, said clusters nearly perfectly align with traditional notions of race (Rosenberg et al. 2002). (Tang et al. 2005) (Rosenberg et al. 2005).

Now, it is true that the exact lines of these clusters are somewhat arbitrary. Sometimes gene frequencies change very slowly across regions and so the exact line one chooses doesn’t have an obvious justification beyond it being a line on a map. But, in spite of these fuzzy boundaries, race is still a useful scientific concept. And, besides, at this point we’ve really just returned to the cline argument addressed above. Thus, the “arbitrary traits” argument does not in any way show that race is not a valid and useful scientific concept.

Racial Categories Change Across Time and Place

Race deniers sometimes argue that people in different places, or even Westerners just a few centuries ago, had radically different ideas about who was a member of which race and that, because of this, race is invalid. But if we look back to the 18th century, we can see that when Linnaeus came up with the first major racial system he posited three races: Asians, Whites, and Blacks. A few decades later, history’s most influential racial system would be devised by Johan Blumenbach who separated humanity into five races: East Asians, South Asians, Native Americans, Whites, and Blacks (Hamilton 2008). Clearly, these systems of racial classification are highly similar to those used by most Westerners today.

Now it is true that, as exemplified by Linnaeus and Blumenbach, some authors posited the existence of more races than another. But these differences are not as serious as they might at first seem. Typically, such disagreements were the result of one author wanting to group humans into larger racial categories than the other. By the 20th century, this difference came to be seen as largely unimportant, because these racial schemes are not mutually exclusive (Boyd 1950). We can easily utilize racial schemes which differ in their level of aggregation, saying, at different times,Caucasian,White, andGerman, for instance, without contradicting ourselves or causing confusion. Thus, the seeming contradictions of traditional racial theories, upon closer analysis, fade away. Scientists have basically agreed on human races for a very long time.

A favorite talking point of race deniers is that the Irish weren’t considered white in early American history. This is false. If this were true, the Irish could not have immigrated here en masse, since the Naturalization Acts of the 1700s limited citizenship to free whites. And yet, millions of Irish were allowed to immigrate. Why? Because everyone has always known that the Irish are white.

It is true that the Irish were sometimes compared to blacks, but no one seriously thought that they were literally, racially, black. Any honest person who looks at 19th-century anti-Irish propaganda immediately realizes that the complaint was that the Irish were thought to be as bad as blacks in spite of them being white, not that they literally were black.

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Still, it is true that some people around the world have come up with some pretty weird ideas about race. So what? What does that have to do with whether or not traditional European racial theories are useful in modern science? Nothing. And so it is irrelevant to the validity of race as a scientific concept.

Race is a Social Construct

Any time we categorize objects we decide to group things one way as opposed to another. In this sense, all categories are social constructs. If we wanted to, we could get rid of the category “table” and, in its place, invent two new categories: one for all “tables” that are brown and another for all “tables” that are not brown. Of course, it is more useful to have one single category which denotes all tables and so that is what we go with. But the point is that we choose to “go with” one category scheme and not the other. Thus, there is something “social” or “artificial” about all categories.

But this isn’t specific to race. All categories are tools and their validity must be determined by whether or not they are useful. And I have already shown that race is useful.

It is worth noting that most biologists have always known this about race. Some of the first biologists to talk about race, such as the previously referenced Linnaeus and Blumenbach, commented on the fact that racial categories were invented by culture and, to some extent, arbitrary (Stuessy 2009) (Blumenbach 1775). And yet both men knew that human races had real and significant biological differences.

Clearly then, race realists have long known that race is a “social construct” and pointing this out does nothing to refute the race realist position.

Conclusion

In summary, the races evolved separately for a long enough period of time to become subspecies. Moreover, their genetic differences are larger than those seen among subspecies in other species. It is true that there are no race genes, and that we share 99% of our genomes with each other, but neither of these facts excludes the possibility of important racial differences. Contrary to popular opinion, scientists can tell what your race is by looking at your DNA, and ideas about race have not changed as much as is commonly thought. It is true that, to some extent, human variation is “clinal”, but that has nothing to do with whether or not we should categorize people racially. And when we do group people racially, it is based on ancestry, not arbitrarily chosen traits.

These reasons, and others like them, are why many researchers around the world agree with the obvious truth that race exists and, in some contexts, such as medicine, social science, and forensics, is important.
 
Really? Is this the most intelligent response you have? What you've just concluded, and I'll refer back to my super hero reference, is that based on the fact that super heroes are not real the movies, comic books, costumes, etc. made in their image also do not exist. What kind of ridiculous azz logic is that? None of the Greek Gods ever existed but you had an entire country/nation of people living by their belief in them. Heaven or hell doesn't exist, none of the stories in the bible are real yet you have millions of people living under the belief system. So if the best you can reason or comment after the mountain of facts I've presented to you is some elementary azz logic about racism not existing then surely homothug gave you way too much intellectual credit.
Mountain of facts you presented? Only thing that is clear here is that all the jizz you swallowed in the joint made you fked up in the head.
 
I listened to the first part of the video and it said essentially what I wrote about as far as common ancestors and migration out of Africa. The second part (and I did not view the entire video) seems to say that the concept of race is fiction which is your belief. Anthropologists disagree as to whether race exists. I happen to believe in Heaven and Hell and God and Jesus and that races exist. So we disagree on theses fundamental issues.
What is the point?

Human Races Exist: Refuting 11 Common Arguments Against the Existence of Race

I am a race realist, meaning that I think human races are real and important. Many people, especially in the social sciences, are race deniers, meaning that they deny either that race is real or that it is important. The vast majority of the time, race deniers will use the same handful of arguments to make their case. So in this post I am going to respond to, and hopefully refute, the eleven arguments I hear most often from race deniers. The responses that I give won’t be the only responses to these arguments that are possible, but they will be the ones that I think refute race denialism in the simplest, and quickest, way possible.

Before going into said arguments, I want to briefly state what race is and why it is a valid biological concept. A race is just a subspecies, meaning a set of populations that have evolved somewhat separately from other populations within the same species and, as a result, exhibits some interesting genetic and physical differences. These populations are defined geographically, because geography was the main limiting factor to human mating for most of prehistory. (It’s hard to mate with people who live on the other side of seas, oceans, mountains, and deserts.)

Categorizing people this way is useful because groups that evolve together end up resembling each other in countless ways. The fact that the races differ, on average, in terms of behavior, appearance, and genetics, has applications in medicine (races differ in disease rates and how they will respond to drugs for genetic reasons) (Riegos et al. 2015) (Ojodu et al. 2014), forensics (determining the race of an offender or victim via a biological criterion can be useful in identifying them) (Wade 2004), and the social sciences (the study of racial differences in crime, intelligence, personality, etc., is a major area of interest to many in these fields) (Rushton and Jensen 2005) (Lynn 2002) (Piffer 2015). Thus race is a concept rooted in biology and which is useful in science. To my mind, that makes it a valid scientific concept. With that said, let’s look at some of the most common arguments to the contrary:

No Credible Scientists Believe in Race

This is false and usually stated with no proper citation. As reviewed in (Liebermann et al. 2004), surveys show that many researchers around the world believe in the existence of human races:

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As can be seen, belief in race among researchers varies depending on where in the world you look. But the only place where there is anything like a consensus is China, and the consensus there is that race exists. The claim that no credible scientists believe in race is thus clearly false.

There Hasn't Been Enough Time for Races to Evolve

If evolution is occurring at a fast enough pace, very little time is needed for subspecies to evolve. In the case of humans, the races have been evolving separately for somewhere between 60,000 and 100,000 years. This is more than enough time for subspecies to evolve. For example, the Moose has evolved several subspecies in the last 100,000 years (Mikko and Andersson 1995), 2 subspecies of waterfowl evolved in less than 100,000 years (Wilson et al. 2011), 8 subspecies of tiger evolved in roughly 72,000 years (Lou et al. 2004), the LizardLaudakia stellioevolved 2 subspecies in 12,000 years (Brammah et al. 2010) and, finally, the polar bear has only been evolving separately from the brown bear for 70,000-100,000 years (Lindqvist et al. 2010). Moreover, it only took 200,000 years for Neanderthals and modern humans to evolve into separate species (or perhaps subspecies). Thus 100,000 years is clearly enough time for the races to have evolved significant differences.

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Another example of the White devil humiliating Azar.......Azar can barely read and you reply with this? Not cool.
 
If you believe in heaven and hell, it goes to show why you believe in the intellectually stated bullshyt above. It also goes to show why black people and the world must continue to deal with your psychosis. After all these years, you still have racist azz scientist attempting to intellectualize the bullshyt science of race. It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of fact at this point. Modern humans all evolved from common ancestry, out of Africa. All genetic mutations and phenotypical differences occurred due to adaptation to climate and geographical location.


Almost every man alive can trace his origins to one man who lived about 135,000 years ago, new research suggests. And that ancient man likely shared the planet with the mother of all women.

The findings, detailed today (Aug. 1) in the journal Science, come from the most complete analysis of the male sex chromosome, or the Y chromosome, to date. The results overturn earlier research, which suggested that men's most recent common ancestor lived just 50,000 to 60,000 years ago.

Despite their overlap in time, ancient "Adam" and ancient "Eve" probably didn't even live near each other, let alone mate.
"Those two people didn't know each other," said Melissa Wilson Sayres, a geneticist at the University of California, Berkeley, who was not involved in the study.

Tracing history

Researchers believe that modern humans left Africa between 60,000 and 200,000 years ago, and that the mother of all women likely emerged from East Africa. But beyond that, the details get fuzzy.

The Y chromosome is passed down identically from father to son, so mutations, or point changes, in the male sex chromosome can trace the male line back to the father of all humans. By contrast, DNA from the mitochondria, the energy powerhouse of the cell, is carried inside the egg, so only women pass it on to their children. The DNA hidden inside mitochondria, therefore, can reveal the maternal lineage to an ancient Eve.

But over time, the male chromosome gets bloated with duplicated, jumbled-up stretches of DNA, said study co-author Carlos Bustamante, a geneticist at Stanford University in California. As a result, piecing together fragments of DNA from gene sequencing was like trying to assemble a puzzle without the image on the box top, making thorough analysis difficult.

Y chromosome

Bustamante and his colleagues assembled a much bigger piece of the puzzle by sequencing the entire genome of the Y chromosome for 69 men from seven global populations, from African San Bushmen to the Yakut of Siberia.

By assuming a mutation rate anchored to archaeological events (such as the migration of people across the Bering Strait), the team concluded that all males in their global sample shared a single male ancestor in Africa roughly 125,000 to 156,000 years ago.

In addition, mitochondrial DNA from the men, as well as similar samples from 24 women, revealed that all women on the planet trace back to a mitochondrial Eve, who lived in Africa between 99,000 and 148,000 years ago — almost the same time period during which the Y-chromosome Adam lived.

More ancient Adam

But the results, though fascinating, are just part of the story, said Michael Hammer, an evolutionary geneticist at the University of Arizona who was not involved in the study.

A separate study in the same issue of the journal Science found that men shared a common ancestor between 180,000 and 200,000 years ago.

And in a study detailed in March in the American Journal of Human Genetics, Hammer's group showed that several men in Africa have unique, divergent Y chromosomes that trace back to an even more ancient man who lived between 237,000 and 581,000 years ago. [Unraveling the Human Genome: 6 Molecular Milestones]

"It doesn't even fit on the family tree that the Bustamante lab has constructed — It's older," Hammer told LiveScience.

Gene studies always rely on a sample of DNA and, therefore, provide an incomplete picture of human history. For instance, Hammer's groupsampled a different group of men than Bustamante's lab did, leading to different estimates of how old common ancestors really are.

Adam and Eve?

These primeval people aren't parallel to the biblical Adam and Eve. They weren't the first modern humans on the planet, but instead just the two out of thousands of people alive at the time with unbroken male or female lineages that continue on today.

The rest of the human genome contains tiny snippets of DNA from many other ancestors — they just don't show up in mitochondrial or Y-chromosome DNA, Hammer said. (For instance, if an ancient woman had only sons, then her mitochondrial DNA would disappear, even though the son would pass on a quarter of her DNA via the rest of his genome.)

As a follow-up, Bustamante's lab is sequencing Y chromosomes from nearly 2,000 other men. Those data could help pinpoint precisely where in Africa these ancient humans lived.

"It's very exciting," Wilson Sayres told LiveScience. "As we get more populations across the world, we can start to understand exactly where we came from physically."
 
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How Europeans evolved white skin

By Ann GibbonsApr. 2, 2015 , 5:00 PM

ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI—Most of us think of Europe as the ancestral home of white people. But a new study shows that pale skin, as well as other traits such as tallness and the ability to digest milk as adults, arrived in most of the continent relatively recently. The work, presented here last week at the 84th annual meeting of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists, offers dramatic evidence of recent evolution in Europe and shows that most modern Europeans don’t look much like those of 8000 years ago.

The origins of Europeans have come into sharp focus in the past year as researchers have sequenced the genomes of ancient populations, rather than only a few individuals. By comparing key parts of the DNA across the genomes of 83 ancient individuals from archaeological sites throughout Europe, the international team of researchers reported earlier this year that Europeans today are a mix of the blending of at least three ancient populations of hunter-gatherers and farmers who moved into Europe in separate migrations over the past 8000 years. The study revealed that a massive migration of Yamnaya herders from the steppes north of the Black Sea may have brought Indo-European languages to Europeabout 4500 years ago.

Now, a new study from the same team drills down further into that remarkable data to search for genes that were under strong natural selection—including traits so favorable that they spread rapidly throughout Europe in the past 8000 years. By comparing the ancient European genomes with those of recent ones from the 1000 Genomes Project, population geneticist Iain Mathieson, a postdoc in the Harvard University lab of population geneticist David Reich, found five genes associated with changes in diet and skin pigmentation that underwent strong natural selection.

First, the scientists confirmed an earlier report that the hunter-gatherers in Europe could not digest the sugars in milk 8000 years ago, according to a poster. They also noted an interesting twist: The first farmers also couldn’t digest milk. The farmers who came from the Near East about 7800 years ago and the Yamnaya pastoralists who came from the steppes 4800 years ago lacked the version of the LCT gene that allows adults to digest sugars in milk. It wasn’t until about 4300 years ago that lactose tolerance swept through Europe.

When it comes to skin color, the team found a patchwork of evolution in different places, and three separate genes that produce light skin, telling a complex story for how European’s skin evolved to be much lighter during the past 8000 years. The modern humans who came out of Africa to originally settle Europe about 40,000 years are presumed to have had dark skin, which is advantageous in sunny latitudes. And the new data confirm that about 8500 years ago, early hunter-gatherers in Spain, Luxembourg, and Hungary also had darker skin: They lacked versions of two genes—SLC24A5 and SLC45A2—that lead to depigmentation and, therefore, pale skin in Europeans today.

But in the far north—where low light levels would favor pale skin—the team found a different picture in hunter-gatherers: Seven people from the 7700-year-old Motala archaeological site in southern Sweden had both light skin gene variants, SLC24A5 and SLC45A2. They also had a third gene, HERC2/OCA2, which causes blue eyes and may also contribute to light skin and blond hair. Thus ancient hunter-gatherers of the far north were already pale and blue-eyed, but those of central and southern Europe had darker skin.

Then, the first farmers from the Near East arrived in Europe; they carried both genes for light skin. As they interbred with the indigenous hunter-gatherers, one of their light-skin genes swept through Europe, so that central and southern Europeans also began to have lighter skin. The other gene variant, SLC45A2, was at low levels until about 5800 years ago when it swept up to high frequency.

The team also tracked complex traits, such as height, which are the result of the interaction of many genes. They found that selection strongly favored several gene variants for tallness in northern and central Europeans, starting 8000 years ago, with a boost coming from the Yamnaya migration, starting 4800 years ago. The Yamnaya have the greatest genetic potential for being tall of any of the populations, which is consistent with measurements of their ancient skeletons. In contrast, selection favored shorter people in Italy and Spain starting 8000 years ago, according to the paper now posted on the bioRxiv preprint server. Spaniards, in particular, shrank in stature 6000 years ago, perhaps as a result of adapting to colder temperatures and a poor diet.

Surprisingly, the team found no immune genes under intense selection, which is counter to hypotheses that diseases would have increased after the development of agriculture.

The paper doesn’t specify why these genes might have been under such strong selection. But the likely explanation for the pigmentation genes is to maximize vitamin D synthesis, said paleoanthropologist Nina Jablonski of Pennsylvania State University (Penn State), University Park, as she looked at the poster’s results at the meeting. People living in northern latitudes often don’t get enough UV to synthesize vitamin D in their skin so natural selection has favored two genetic solutions to that problem—evolving pale skin that absorbs UV more efficiently or favoring lactose tolerance to be able to digest the sugars and vitamin D naturally found in milk. “What we thought was a fairly simple picture of the emergence of depigmented skin in Europe is an exciting patchwork of selection as populations disperse into northern latitudes,” Jablonski says. “This data is fun because it shows how much recent evolution has taken place.”

Anthropological geneticist George Perry, also of Penn State, notes that the work reveals how an individual’s genetic potential is shaped by their diet and adaptation to their habitat. “We’re getting a much more detailed picture now of how selection works.”
 
Conclusion

"In summary, the races evolved separately for a long enough period of time to become subspecies. Moreover, their genetic differences are larger than those seen among subspecies in other species. It is true that there are no race genes, and that we share 99% of our genomes with each other, but neither of these facts excludes the possibility of important racial differences. Contrary to popular opinion, scientists can tell what your race is by looking at your DNA, and ideas about race have not changed as much as is commonly thought. It is true that, to some extent, human variation is “clinal”, but that has nothing to do with whether or not we should categorize people racially. And when we do group people racially, it is based on ancestry, not arbitrarily chosen traits.

These reasons, and others like them, are why many researchers around the world agree with the obvious truth that race exists and, in some contexts, such as medicine, social science, and forensics, is important."

Though this is a bunch of b.s. made up by some psycho azz white men. What do you believe this so-called race means? Does it determine your intelligence? Does it determine your humanity? Does it determine your abilities to function as human? What exactly is it suppose to determine? Do you believe melanin content or lack there of has some significance in human development? Explain just what the hell race means since you believe it exists and where the hell white people came from being that you were last people to appear in human history? And why is it so important to you and the so-called scientist who invented it?
 
Another example of the White devil humiliating Azar.......Azar can barely read and you reply with this? Not cool.

Do you ever look in the mirror and say to yourself, "I'm not going to be a B*tch Boy today"? Are you still mad about your dream of being a college cheerleader not working out? All the fckn cheer leading you do on this site will not make that dream a reality, it's over homothug. You will never be a cheerleader, just live with it. I'm sure one of your gay lovers will console you if you admit it to them
 
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Do you ever look in the mirror and say to yourself, "I'm not going to be a B*tch Boy today"? Are you still mad about your dream of being a college cheerleader not working out? All the fckn cheer leading you do on this site will not make that dream a reality, it's over homothug. You will never be a chill leader, just live with it. I'm sure one of your gay lovers will console you if you admit it to them
Spit or swallow, can't understand you when you talk with a mouth full of jizz.
 
Also, your belief in a book with absolutely no factual historical proof (i.e. the bible) shows you're susceptible to believing the simplest of myths
 
Spit or swallow, can't understand you when you talk with a mouth full of jizz.

I'll send you a bottle of this for xmas. I know how deep the b*tch inside you lies but if you use it 3 times a day, it may help.

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Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin

By Rick Weiss

Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 16, 2005

Scientists said yesterday that they have discovered a tiny genetic mutation that largely explains the first appearance of white skin in humans tens of thousands of years ago, a finding that helps solve one of biology's most enduring mysteries and illuminates one of humanity's greatest sources of strife.

The work suggests that the skin-whitening mutation occurred by chance in a single individual after the first human exodus from Africa, when all people were brown-skinned. That person's offspring apparently thrived as humans moved northward into what is now Europe, helping to give rise to the lightest of the world's races.

Leaders of the study, at Penn State University, warned against interpreting the finding as a discovery of "the race gene." Race is a vaguely defined biological, social and political concept, they noted, and skin color is only part of what race is -- and is not.

In fact, several scientists said, the new work shows just how small a biological difference is reflected by skin color. The newly found mutation involves a change of just one letter of DNA code out of the 3.1 billion letters in the human genome -- the complete instructions for making a human being.

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"It's a major finding in a very sensitive area," said Stephen Oppenheimer, an expert in anthropological genetics at Oxford University, who was not involved in the work. "Almost all the differences used to differentiate populations from around the world really are skin deep."

The work raises a raft of new questions -- not least of which is why white skin caught on so thoroughly in northern climes once it arose. Some scientists suggest that lighter skin offered a strong survival advantage for people who migrated out of Africa by boosting their levels of bone-strengthening vitamin D; others have posited that its novelty and showiness simply made it more attractive to those seeking mates.

The work also reveals for the first time that Asians owe their relatively light skin to different mutations. That means that light skin arose independently at least twice in human evolution, in each case affecting populations with the facial and other traits that today are commonly regarded as the hallmarks of Caucasian and Asian races.

Several sociologists and others said they feared that such revelations might wrongly overshadow the prevailing finding of genetics over the past 10 years: that the number of DNA differences between races is tiny compared with the range of genetic diversity found within any single racial group.

Even study leader Keith Cheng said he was at first uncomfortable talking about the new work, fearing that the finding of such a clear genetic difference between people of African and European ancestries might reawaken discredited assertions of other purported inborn differences between races -- the most long-standing and inflammatory of those being intelligence.

"I think human beings are extremely insecure and look to visual cues of sameness to feel better, and people will do bad things to people who look different," Cheng said.

The discovery, described in today's issue of the journal Science, was an unexpected outgrowth of studies Cheng and his colleagues were conducting on inch-long zebra fish, which are popular research tools for geneticists and developmental biologists. Having identified a gene that, when mutated, interferes with its ability to make its characteristic black stripes, the team scanned human DNA databases to see if a similar gene resides in people.

To their surprise, they found virtually identical pigment-building genes in humans, chickens, dogs, cows and many others species, an indication of its biological value.



They got a bigger surprise when they looked in a new database comparing the genomes of four of the world's major racial groups. That showed that whites with northern and western European ancestry have a mutated version of the gene.

Skin color is a reflection of the amount and distribution of the pigment melanin, which in humans protects against damaging ultraviolet rays but in other species is also used for camouflage or other purposes. The mutation that deprives zebra fish of their stripes blocks the creation of a protein whose job is to move charged atoms across cell membranes, an obscure process that is crucial to the accumulation of melanin inside cells.

Humans of European descent, Cheng's team found, bear a slightly different mutation that hobbles the same protein with similar effect. The defect does not affect melanin deposition in other parts of the body, including the hair and eyes, whose tints are under the control of other genes.

A few genes have previously been associated with human pigment disorders -- most notably those that, when mutated, lead to albinism, an extreme form of pigment loss. But the newly found glitch is the first found to play a role in the formation of "normal" white skin. The Penn State team calculates that the gene, known as slc24a5, is responsible for about one-third of the pigment loss that made black skin white. A few other as-yet-unidentified mutated genes apparently account for the rest.

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Although precise dating is impossible, several scientists speculated on the basis of its spread and variation that the mutation arose between 20,000 and 50,000 years ago. That would be consistent with research showing that a wave of ancestral humans migrated northward and eastward out of Africa about 50,000 years ago.

Unlike most mutations, this one quickly overwhelmed its ancestral version, at least in Europe, suggesting it had a real benefit. Many scientists suspect that benefit has to do with vitamin D, made in the body with the help of sunlight and critical to proper bone development.

Sun intensity is great enough in equatorial regions that the vitamin can still be made in dark-skinned people despite the ultraviolet shielding effects of melanin. In the north, where sunlight is less intense and cold weather demands that more clothing be worn, melanin's ultraviolet shielding became a liability, the thinking goes.

Today that solar requirement is largely irrelevant because many foods are supplemented with vitamin D.

Some scientists said they suspect that white skin's rapid rise to genetic dominance may also be the product of "sexual selection," a phenomenon of evolutionary biology in which almost any new and showy trait in a healthy individual can become highly prized by those seeking mates, perhaps because it provides evidence of genetic innovativeness.

Cheng and co-worker Victor A. Canfield said their discovery could have practical spinoffs. A gene so crucial to the buildup of melanin in the skin might be a good target for new drugs against melanoma, for example, a cancer of melanin cells in which slc24a5 works overtime.

But they and others agreed that, for better or worse, the finding's most immediate impact may be an escalating debate about the meaning of race.

Recent revelations that all people are more than 99.9 percent genetically identical has proved that race has almost no biological validity. Yet geneticists' claims that race is a phony construct have not rung true to many nonscientists -- and understandably so, said Vivian Ota Wang of the National Human Genome Research Institute in Bethesda.
 
Obviously doesn't work, you're recommending it and you're still a bitch.

Hey homothug, aren't you gonna bug your cane sport daddy about answering my questions above the same way your b*tchazz bugged me about answering his? Here, I'll quote them for you again:

"What do you believe this so-called race means? Does it determine your intelligence? Does it determine your humanity? Does it determine your abilities to function as human? What exactly is it suppose to determine? Do you believe melanin content or lack there of has some significance in human development? Explain just what the hell race means since you believe it exists and where the hell white people came from being that you were last people to appear in human history? And why is it so important to you and the so-called scientist who invented it?"

I'm looking forward to hearing the non-racist Mr. Foulkes explain what race actually means and it's significance in human activity, should be interesting....I'd also like to hear his opinion on the this difference when it occurs in the animal kingdom. For instance, does he believe the albino gorilla is different from the others? What about the albino Tiger? Albino snake, alligator, whale or any albino version of a given species, are the albino versions of these species different? If so, how and of what significance are these differences in relation to their existence within their species?
 
Hey homothug, aren't you gonna bug your cane sport daddy about answering my questions above the same way your b*tchazz bugged me about answering his? Here, I'll quote them for you again:

"What do you believe this so-called race means? Does it determine your intelligence? Does it determine your humanity? Does it determine your abilities to function as human? What exactly is it suppose to determine? Do you believe melanin content or lack there of has some significance in human development? Explain just what the hell race means since you believe it exists and where the hell white people came from being that you were last people to appear in human history? And why is it so important to you and the so-called scientist who invented it?"

I'm looking forward to hearing the non-racist Mr. Foulkes explain what race actually means and it's significance in human activity, should be interesting....I'd also like to hear his opinion on the this difference when it occurs in the animal kingdom. For instance, does he believe the albino gorilla is different from the others? What about the albino Tiger? Albino snake, alligator, whale or any albino version of a given species, are the albino versions of these species different? If so, how and of what significance are these differences in relation to their existence within their species?
Mr. @foulkes thinks you're an imbecile not worth wasting his time on. Sorry.
 
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Mr. @foulkes simply doesn't find you worthy. Maybe try asking him again? This time ask without a cock in your mouth and he may be able to understand you.

No need to bother, homothug. I didn't expect him to answer because he doesn't have one. His response was text book, not unlike yours. Always got images of someone's dck dancing around in your head. The fundamental problem with any racist discussing issues of race is the fact that the entire premise on which you base your racism is rooted in falsehoods and bullshyt logic. All it takes is a few logical questions to show how illogical and fckn stupid you are in believing such dumb shyt.

Although ironic, I love how you racist believe anyone speaking the facts of your history of racism is being racist. Lmao! Pretty funny shyt. It must be pretty tough trying to reconcile your white supremacist, best humans on the planet ideology with all the wicked shyt your ancestors have perpetrated on top of the fact that you watch and cheer on super fckn black athletes performing amazing shyt every week from college to the pro ranks.

The bottom line is that many you coward mf's only come out when the black man speaks up and tells you about your racism and absence of humanity. You really think black people on this site don't see your shyt when you disparage and hate everything black there is? You think we believe that it's just coincidence that you hate everything and everyone that stands for black justice. FOH! How can every black organization, every black politician other than the hand picked sycophants, every black activist, or anyone who speaks in the interest of black people and justice be evil and bad? And this does not only apply to the current people/orgnizations, this has been true throughout the fckn history of this country. But that doesn't mean your racist, right? Lmao. Somehow white people always know who's naughty and who's nice when it comes to black people fighting for justice and just so happens none have been nice in your eyes, imagine that. I guess not until they're dead, MLK became a hero years after death but of course he was the worst thing in Amerikkka according to white Amerikkka at the time. Foh! Your whole line of thinking is fckd up, cowardly, and unjust. As I said earlier and as I say often, you only see humanity and believe in justice when it comes to other whites. Anybody else asking for justice, you deem it as whining. I'll also assure you that as long as the select group of overt racist on this site find it necessary to express their racist views and opinions on this sports site, I'll continue to share my thoughts as well. So until next time, homothug, keep being the b*tch boy you are.
 
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No need to bother, homothug. I didn't expect him to answer because he doesn't have one. His response was text book, not unlike yours. Always got images of someone's dck dancing around in your head. The fundamental problem with any racist discussing issues of race is the fact that the entire premise on which you base your racism is rooted in falsehoods and bullshyt logic. All it takes is a few logical questions to show how illogical and fckn stupid you are in believing such dumb shyt.

Although ironic, I love how you racist believe anyone speaking the facts of your history of racism is being racist. Lmao! Pretty funny shyt. It must be pretty tough trying to reconcile your white supremacist, best humans on the planet ideology with all the wicked shyt your ancestors have perpetrated on top of the fact that you watch and cheer on super fckn black athletes performing amazing shyt every week from college to the pro ranks.

The bottom line is that many you coward mf's only come out when the black man speaks up and tells you about your racism and absence of humanity. You really think black people on this site don't see your shyt when you disparage and hate everything black there is? You think we believe that it's just coincidence that you hate everything and everyone that stands for black justice. FOH! How can every black organization, every black politician other than the hand picked sycophants, every black activist, or anyone who speaks in the interest of black people and justice be evil and bad? And this does not only apply to the current people/orgnizations, this has been true throughout the fckn history of this country. But that doesn't mean your racist, right? Lmao. Somehow white people always know who's naughty and who's nice when it comes to black people fighting for justice and just so happens none have been nice in your eyes, imagine that. I guess not until they're dead, MLK became a hero years after death but of course he was the worst thing in Amerikkka according to white Amerikkka at the time. Foh! Your whole line of thinking is fckd up, cowardly, and unjust. As I said earlier and as I say often, you only see humanity and believe in justice when it comes to other whites. Anybody else asking for justice, you deem it as whining. I'll also assure you that as long as the select group of overt racist on this site find it necessary to express their racist views and opinions on this sports site, I'll continue to share my thoughts as well. So until next time, homothug, keep being the b*tch boy you are.
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P.S. Mr. @foulkes still says you're an idiot and you must ask again. He still doesn't find you worthy of a reply. Try again.
 
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