I really believe mail in balloting will backfire for Dems, here's why

[HJCane]

First of all many of the looters, rioters won't vote. They just are not responsible citizens that want to participate in Democratic process. I digress...........

I am Board President of a high end luxury condominium on the beach going on 8 years ( I know I'm a sucker) when we have elections they are in written paper form. Forget about participation rates being low you would be SHOCKED how many highly educated / wealthy people can not follow simple directions and they think it doesn't matter. But it does. If they don't sign rejected. If they don't put the ballot in the small envelope and the small envelope into the big envelope rejected. On and on......although the instructions are clearly presented to them.
I predict the same thing will happen in states that just instituted mail in balloting rendering thousands and thousands of votes to be rejected. They will forget to sign, they will not postmark in time, they will not put the ballot in properly, they will X or check mark instead of coloring in the bubble, they will omit by accident voting for certain things on the ballot, they will mail late, etc. etc. etc.
Just think how it is when we go to the actual polling place how many people can't understand how to do it right.
Mark my words on this there will be many many ballots rendered invalid.

 

[MungoGungo]

First of all many of the looters, rioters won't vote. They just are not responsible citizens that want to participate in Democratic process. I digress...........

I am Board President of a high end luxury condominium on the beach going on 8 years ( I know I'm a sucker) when we have elections they are in written paper form. Forget about participation rates being low you would be SHOCKED how many highly educated / wealthy people can not follow simple directions and they think it doesn't matter. But it does. If they don't sign rejected. If they don't put the ballot in the small envelope and the small envelope into the big envelope rejected. On and on......although the instructions are clearly presented to them.
I predict the same thing will happen in states that just instituted mail in balloting rendering thousands and thousands of votes to be rejected. They will forget to sign, they will not postmark in time, they will not put the ballot in properly, they will X or check mark instead of coloring in the bubble, they will omit by accident voting for certain things on the ballot, they will mail late, etc. etc. etc.
Just think how it is when we go to the actual polling place how many people can't understand how to do it right.
Mark my words on this there will be many many ballots rendered invalid.

It's going to be a nightmare and drag on for a long time. Not sure why everyone can line up for a mile to go into Walmart or target but cant vote. Do mail in voting for the truly compromised. Everyone else just quit bitching and go vote.

 

[HJCane]

It's going to be a nightmare and drag on for a long time. Not sure why everyone can line up for a mile to go into Walmart or target but cant vote. Do mail in voting for the truly compromised. Everyone else just quit bitching and go vote.

Exactly and it is going to be a nightmare but I do believe majority of Republicans will go to the polling place. I will be there as always during the 2 week early voting period which is fast and easy.

 

[grbcane]

I hope you’re right, but everyone knows the democrat party will be committing massive fraud, they flipped two senate seats after the 2018 election by mail in voting fraud. They’re going to pick the hot spots before the election, and magically find boxes of uncounted votes.

 

[cdwright40]

Someone should tell you votes are rendered invalid every single election.

 

[central17]

Exactly and it is going to be a nightmare but I do believe majority of Republicans will go to the polling place. I will be there as always during the 2 week early voting period which is fast and easy.

The fear is Dem's finding a bunch of ballots for every local race race that the R's win in the range of 5000 ballots. That is only $2,750 in prepaid postage to fill out fraudulent ballots to change a race. Multiple this by each close voting precinct accross a state or county and you have trouble. Especially when you allow political operatives to determine the voters "intent". Any one that cannot figure out a ballot has no business voting anyway.

 

[grbcane]

Someone should tell you votes are rendered invalid every single election.

Just admit it. You know this will happen, and you’re okay with it.

 

[dmatt]

First of all many of the looters, rioters won't vote. They just are not responsible citizens that want to participate in Democratic process. I digress...........

I am Board President of a high end luxury condominium on the beach going on 8 years ( I know I'm a sucker) when we have elections they are in written paper form. Forget about participation rates being low you would be SHOCKED how many highly educated / wealthy people can not follow simple directions and they think it doesn't matter. But it does. If they don't sign rejected. If they don't put the ballot in the small envelope and the small envelope into the big envelope rejected. On and on......although the instructions are clearly presented to them.
I predict the same thing will happen in states that just instituted mail in balloting rendering thousands and thousands of votes to be rejected. They will forget to sign, they will not postmark in time, they will not put the ballot in properly, they will X or check mark instead of coloring in the bubble, they will omit by accident voting for certain things on the ballot, they will mail late, etc. etc. etc.
Just think how it is when we go to the actual polling place how many people can't understand how to do it right.
Mark my words on this there will be many many ballots rendered invalid.

Trumps Postmaster General will also do his part to invalidate the ballots......Trump has done a masterful job in making sure he is not defeated by mail in voting..

 

[HJCane]

Someone should tell you votes are rendered invalid every single election.

Yes but lets see if there is large increase in that %

 

[HJCane]

Trumps Postmaster General will also do his part to invalidate the ballots......Trump has done a masterful job in making sure he is not defeated by mail in voting..

It would take a lot of mail personnel to be in on that conspiracy don't you agree Dumbo?

 

[cems52]

First of all many of the looters, rioters won't vote. They just are not responsible citizens that want to participate in Democratic process. I digress...........

I am Board President of a high end luxury condominium on the beach going on 8 years ( I know I'm a sucker) when we have elections they are in written paper form. Forget about participation rates being low you would be SHOCKED how many highly educated / wealthy people can not follow simple directions and they think it doesn't matter. But it does. If they don't sign rejected. If they don't put the ballot in the small envelope and the small envelope into the big envelope rejected. On and on......although the instructions are clearly presented to them.
I predict the same thing will happen in states that just instituted mail in balloting rendering thousands and thousands of votes to be rejected. They will forget to sign, they will not postmark in time, they will not put the ballot in properly, they will X or check mark instead of coloring in the bubble, they will omit by accident voting for certain things on the ballot, they will mail late, etc. etc. etc.
Just think how it is when we go to the actual polling place how many people can't understand how to do it right.
Mark my words on this there will be many many ballots rendered invalid.

Republicans who mail in their ballot will do similar dumb things . Remember, Trump supporters are generally on the low end of the intelligence spectrum.

 

[miamimike]

First of all many of the looters, rioters won't vote. They just are not responsible citizens that want to participate in Democratic process. I digress...........

I am Board President of a high end luxury condominium on the beach going on 8 years ( I know I'm a sucker) when we have elections they are in written paper form. Forget about participation rates being low you would be SHOCKED how many highly educated / wealthy people can not follow simple directions and they think it doesn't matter. But it does. If they don't sign rejected. If they don't put the ballot in the small envelope and the small envelope into the big envelope rejected. On and on......although the instructions are clearly presented to them.
I predict the same thing will happen in states that just instituted mail in balloting rendering thousands and thousands of votes to be rejected. They will forget to sign, they will not postmark in time, they will not put the ballot in properly, they will X or check mark instead of coloring in the bubble, they will omit by accident voting for certain things on the ballot, they will mail late, etc. etc. etc.
Just think how it is when we go to the actual polling place how many people can't understand how to do it right.
Mark my words on this there will be many many ballots rendered invalid.

Never before heard of mail-in-voting being a problem until the Buffoon brought it up trying to lay groundwork to call election a fraud. Has been used for decades with little fraud!

 

[grbcane]

Never before heard of mail-in-voting being a problem until the Buffoon brought it up trying to lay groundwork to call election a fraud. Has been used for decades with little fraud!

Never to this extent, most countries don’t use mail in voting because it’s ripe with fraud. If you’ve truly never heard of fraud from mail in voting, then you’ve had your head in the sand. There’s a huge difference from absentee voting, and what we plan to do now.

 

[miamimike]

Never to this extent, most countries don’t use mail in voting because it’s ripe with fraud. If you’ve truly never heard of fraud from mail in voting, then you’ve had your head in the sand. There’s a huge difference from absentee voting, and what we plan to do now.

All types of voter fraud is U.S. elections is minuscule in comparison to the number of ballets cast, according to election experts. Taking that into consideration, it is problematic to make comparisons between types of ballet-casting and erroneous to claim mail-in-voting "substantially" increases risk of fraud.

 

[ZEKEMUG]

Never before heard of mail-in-voting being a problem until the Buffoon brought it up trying to lay groundwork to call election a fraud. Has been used for decades with little fraud!

How much fraud is acceptable? I want my vote to count and not be nullified by fraud.

 

[HJCane]

How much fraud is acceptable? I want my vote to count and not be nullified by fraud.

go to the polling center

 

[Raoul2]

How much fraud is acceptable? I want my vote to count and not be nullified by fraud.

As mentioned in various other threads, you have a better chance of being struck by lightning during your lifetime, than you are witnessing a case of voter impersonation fraud. 31 cases out of 1 billion ballots cast over 15 years is pretty solid.

 

[Raoul2]

Never to this extent, most countries don’t use mail in voting because it’s ripe with fraud. If you’ve truly never heard of fraud from mail in voting, then you’ve had your head in the sand. There’s a huge difference from absentee voting, and what we plan to do now.

Everything you've posted is false and easily debunked by all the studies on voter impersonation fraud that are readily available to review.

 

[Raoul2]

Trumps Postmaster General will also do his part to invalidate the ballots......Trump has done a masterful job in making sure he is not defeated by mail in voting..

He's definitely trying his best to stack the odds in his favor so that even if he loses (a real possibility), he will be able to go out with a grievance of fraud and "rigged system". He did the same thing with "rigged system" accusations in 2016 until he won, then he went mysteriously silent on the issue.

 

[utatem]

But then you and Hillary didn’t

 

[Raoul2]

But then you and Hillary didn’t

And with good reason

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[grbcane]

Everything you've posted is false and easily debunked by all the studies on voter impersonation fraud that are readily available to review.

In your dreams, stop gas lighting.

 

[grbcane]

Everything you've posted is false and easily debunked by all the studies on voter impersonation fraud that are readily available to review.

Just like Biden bribing Ukraine with aide for firing the prosecutor investigating his son, you said it was debunked, but we have it on video.

 

[grbcane]

@Raoul2

 

[Raoul2]

Just like Biden bribing Ukraine with aide for firing the prosecutor investigating his son, you said it was debunked, but we have it on video.

What does this have to do with mail in balloting ?

 

[Raoul2]

In your dreams, stop gas lighting.

Here's a long list of studies that debunk all voter fraud claims made by the right wing lie machine.

https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/analysis/Briefing_Memo_Debunking_Voter_Fraud_Myth.pdf

 

[cems52]

What does this have to do with mail in balloting ?

I can't wait for his non-response.

https://media.tenor.com/images/05548e09765e371ae1eddbfaabd7d127/tenor.gif

 

[Raoul2]

I can't wait for his non-response.

https://media.tenor.com/images/05548e09765e371ae1eddbfaabd7d127/tenor.gif

Its like having a chat about football and the other person suddenly bringing up their favorite meat loaf recipe.

 

[miamimike]

Everything you've posted is false and easily debunked by all the studies on voter impersonation fraud that are readily available to review.

I found that on a website disclaiming your claim. So where are these readily available sites you're speaking about?

 

[Raoul2]

I found that on a website disclaiming your claim. So where are these readily available sites you're speaking about?

Its in the link in post 26 above. The Brennan Center has a long list of studies that debunk the voter fraud myth.

https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/analysis/Briefing_Memo_Debunking_Voter_Fraud_Myth.pdf

 

[miamimike]

Its in the link in post 26 above. The Brennan Center has a long list of studies that debunk the voter fraud myth.

https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/analysis/Briefing_Memo_Debunking_Voter_Fraud_Myth.pdf

I agree with you. I was debunking grbcane's claim that mail-in-voting is "ripe with fraud".