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Migrants cost taxpayers HUGE $$$

lol...true but 801 I know about 20,000,000 with healthcare that are glad he is on that list.
And the tax payer who foots the bill for these people can't stand it. Which is another reason Trump won, people tired of deadbeats taking advantage of our system and laughing in our face. The hating us, blowing us up, shooting and killing us all while they take free stuff. It's gross
 
And the tax payer who foots the bill for these people can't stand it. Which is another reason Trump won, people tired of deadbeats taking advantage of our system and laughing in our face. The hating us, blowing us up, shooting and killing us all while they take free stuff. It's gross
Russia is the reason Trump won and that will come out soon enough. The tax payer? That's 1% of the top 1% which equates to the top 400 families in the country. So if 400 families pay for 20 million then I would take that trade off. It isn't costing me anything and I am not on obamacare. I get insurance through an employer but happy to see my premiums not rising at the same rates before obmacare. Glad to have Obama Sr. On the list.
 
Russia is the reason Trump won and that will come out soon enough. The tax payer? That's 1% of the top 1% which equates to the top 400 families in the country. So if 400 families pay for 20 million then I would take that trade off. It isn't costing me anything and I am not on obamacare. I get insurance through an employer but happy to see my premiums not rising at the same rates before obmacare. Glad to have Obama Sr. On the list.
Show me this Russia proof!! Let's see it. I'll be the first one running Trump out of town. Finally glad you were truthful, your envious and jealous. You crying about the "1%" is perfect example how your nothing but an envious clown. For you to think it's fair anyone pays for anyone else for an extended period of time look at Venezuela for and an example. Glad you finally admit your a socialist!! And it's funnier you don't mind it's someone else paying the tab and not you. Your the type "as long as it don't effect me" that's selfish thinking that's for us into this mess. Your a clown.
 
Show me this Russia proof!! Let's see it. I'll be the first one running Trump out of town. Finally glad you were truthful, your envious and jealous. You crying about the "1%" is perfect example how your nothing but an envious clown. For you to think it's fair anyone pays for anyone else for an extended period of time look at Venezuela for and an example. Glad you finally admit your a socialist!! And it's funnier you don't mind it's someone else paying the tab and not you. Your the type "as long as it don't effect me" that's selfish thinking that's for us into this mess. Your a clown.

Okay let me unpack this for you. Sorry you just have a tough time. I will help. You will get the proof at the conclusion of everything coming out and confirmed regarding Russia. It is still in the opinion stage. When we have more facts than the FBI and CIA confirming that the Russians were involved you will be notified with Trump and BTW. Please save the you will the first to run Trump out of town. That is laughable. He treats you and the rest of his supporters like a Cuck. The evidence is already out via several government agencies the Trump campaign and Russia communicated during the election and that Russia affected the election.

Now regarding the 1%? I am going to let you in on a little secret only us smart people know. Someone is going to pay for people who can not afford healthcare. Someone was paying for it before Obamacare. That someone is the rest of us. Who do you think was paying when someone went to the emergency room and didn't have healthcare? The healthcare fairy? No, the rest of us. All Obama did was redesign it to where the 1% of 1% did because they can afford to pay a little more in taxes vs the rest of us. Making sense? Just because you want someone to pay for their own health insurance doesn't mean they are capable of doing that. Just because you would rather see people die than have someone that can afford to pay more for these people, doesn't make it morally the right thing to do.

This comes down to what type of person you are. Sorry, to be so plain about it but it does.
 
Okay let me unpack this for you. Sorry you just have a tough time. I will help. You will get the proof at the conclusion of everything coming out and confirmed regarding Russia. It is still in the opinion stage. When we have more facts than the FBI and CIA confirming that the Russians were involved you will be notified with Trump and BTW. Please save the you will the first to run Trump out of town. That is laughable. He treats you and the rest of his supporters like a Cuck. The evidence is already out via several government agencies the Trump campaign and Russia communicated during the election and that Russia affected the election.

Now regarding the 1%? I am going to let you in on a little secret only us smart people know. Someone is going to pay for people who can not afford healthcare. Someone was paying for it before Obamacare. That someone is the rest of us. Who do you think was paying when someone went to the emergency room and didn't have healthcare? The healthcare fairy? No, the rest of us. All Obama did was redesign it to where the 1% of 1% did because they can afford to pay a little more in taxes vs the rest of us. Making sense? Just because you want someone to pay for their own health insurance doesn't mean they are capable of doing that. Just because you would rather see people die than have someone that can afford to pay more for these people, doesn't make it morally the right thing to do.

This comes down to what type of person you are. Sorry, to be so plain about it but it does.
Didn't bother reading, here's why: I'll make this simple. 1.) your a compulsive liar! 2.) I could care less about your commentary because it's based on lies and your opinion and I don't care to be lied to. Like most here I don't respect you!
 
Didn't bother reading, here's why: I'll make this simple. 1.) your a compulsive liar! 2.) I could care less about your commentary because it's based on lies and your opinion and I don't care to be lied to. Like most here I don't respect you!
That's okay. I'll live.....and I would much rather people have healthcare instead of dying because people are so selfish they refuse to sacrifice a little more money. Another secret for you. Before Obamacare, healthcare insurance providers were kicking people off their insurance so they would not have to pay for it. So, when you act like people aren't going to pay for someone else's healthcare you should probably understand the topic. If I work hard and get sick and a company either fires me because I can't perform due to the illness, and then I am not allowed coverage because of a pre existing condition we aren't talking about deadbeats. We are talking about lives and I should hope that never happens to you or anyone in your family. People okay with this just have no moral compass.
 
That's okay. I'll live.....and I would much rather people have healthcare instead of dying because people are so selfish they refuse to sacrifice a little more money. Another secret for you. Before Obamacare, healthcare insurance providers were kicking people off their insurance so they would not have to pay for it. So, when you act like people aren't going to pay for someone else's healthcare you should probably understand the topic. If I work hard and get sick and a company either fires me because I can't perform due to the illness, and then I am not allowed coverage because of a pre existing condition we aren't talking about deadbeats. We are talking about lives and I should hope that never happens to you or anyone in your family. People okay with this just have no moral compass.
Lmfao, I got to "another secret people were being kicked off healthcare" what about the providers dropping Obamacare due to the fact it's a terrible program. Your so clueless and naive. It's sad how stupid you are. It's almost to the point I feel bad for you. Your that dumb.
 
Lmfao, I got to "another secret people were being kicked off healthcare" what about the providers dropping Obamacare due to the fact it's a terrible program. Your so clueless and naive. It's sad how stupid you are. It's almost to the point I feel bad for you. Your that dumb.
What does that have to do with anything? We have an elected president. FIX IT!!!! That's the job dude. It isn't supposed to be solved and handed over to you. That happens because there is a lack of competition in some areas that drives the prices and cost up. That doesn't happen everywhere...and single payer solves this. It adds competition.....this is called governing. What you are talking about is campaigning. The campaign is over now. It's time for solutions and I am all ears. If Mr. Trump comes up with something that addresses these problems, he can call it Trumcare for all I care. He will get the credit. Right now all he does is point out problems. Pretty much for you to bring here. Never a solution to anything.
 
What does that have to do with anything? We have an elected president. FIX IT!!!! That's the job dude. It isn't supposed to be solved and handed over to you. That happens because there is a lack of competition in some areas that drives the prices and cost up. That doesn't happen everywhere...and single payer solves this. It adds competition.....this is called governing. What you are talking about is campaigning. The campaign is over now. It's time for solutions and I am all ears. If Mr. Trump comes up with something that addresses these problems, he can call it Trumcare for all I care. He will get the credit. Right now all he does is point out problems. Pretty much for you to bring here. Never a solution to anything.
What doesn't it have to do with it? Your saying people were thrown off health care is bad. I am making you aware that national providers are dropping Obamacare, meaning people are losing their coverage due to the fact it's a bad policy and you say "what does that have to do with anything" so is it good to drop people? Again your talking out of both sides of your mouth! It's not called "governing" what your advocating is Socialism!! Spin the verbiage however you want! Lol all I bring is solutions, all you advocate for is giving away other people's money. Like you said you don't care as long as it don't effect you. Ignorant statement. And why is it governements job to provide healthcare??
 
What doesn't it have to do with it? Your saying people were thrown off health care is bad. I am making you aware that national providers are dropping Obamacare, meaning people are losing their coverage due to the fact it's a bad policy and you say "what does that have to do with anything" so is it good to drop people? Again your talking out of both sides of your mouth! It's not called "governing" what your advocating is Socialism!! Spin the verbiage however you want! Lol all I bring is solutions, all you advocate for is giving away other people's money. Like you said you don't care as long as it don't effect you. Ignorant statement. And why is it governements job to provide healthcare??
Nothing to do with the original problem. The act is there to solve a healthcare crisis that has been around over 60 years. Time for politicians step up and get a solution or GTFOOH. That's what I am saying. Obamacare isn't flawless.....but with all it's faults. It is better than what we had by a long shot. So, fix it. Repeal then replace it. Do something instead of pointing out problems.

It is the governments job to govern 321 Million people. That's like saying why is it the governments job to fix slavery? It's the governments job to fix any universal problem. People are dying. What is it about that you do not seem to understand or give a crap about? People are getting sick and having to choose between work, mortgage and living. That is a pretty big problem and the states can't fix it. That's why it is the governments job.

Kicking the can down the road doesn't cut it. The government is there for the people.
 
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Nothing to do with the original problem. This act this there to solve a healthcare crisis that has been around over 60 years. Time for politicians step up and get a solution or GTFOOH. That's what I am saying. Obamacare isn't flawless.....but with all it's faults. It is better than what we had by a long shot. So, fix it. Repeal then replace it. Do something instead of pointing out problems.

It is the governments job to govern 321 Million people. That's like saying why is it the governments job to fix slavery? It's the governments job to fix any universal problem. People are dying. What is it about that you do not seem to understand or give a crap about? People are getting sick and having to choose between work, mortgage and living. That is a pretty big problem and the states can't fix it. That's why it is the governments job.

Kicking the can down the road doesn't cut it. The government is there for the people.
Again your confused on the role of government and its purpose. Go to Venezuela, Britain or and other Socialized based healthcare system and it's inefficiency is staggering! The level of care and wait times alone for simple procedures aren't the model we'd want. Slavery analogy? That the best you can do? You love using extreme sip box examples to try and make a point since your not smart enough to use facts and data! And people chose between mortgages and health care because Obamacare premiums do high. And your insecure fake arrogant "what don't you understand" line you use on me and everyone else when your exposed as a fraud is old. Private healthcare is the only efficient and effective solution. Also again the illegals and deadbeats abuse the public system and drain resources before the tax payer can use the system he's payed for. And "kicking the can down the road" lmfao Obama had 8 years and all the support needed and failed! Why!! Because he looked out for illegals and deadbeats before the people working and paying for services!! Another reason Trump won! Face it, the election was a vote against Obama and his legacy! The guy was a failure
 
So the 2.1million don't count? I'm not a healthcare provider and unlike you I don't act like I have answers I don't! Not my job to solve this problem!!
It isn't mine either....is it? Everyone counts...which is why I think if you give 18 million coverage that otherwise wouldn't have it, it is great. Sorry but at least that is doing something....instead of saying it isn't my job to fix this problem...but I will point them out. That's not leadership...that is just a lack of a moral compass.
 
Again your confused on the role of government and its purpose. Go to Venezuela, Britain or and other Socialized based healthcare system and it's inefficiency is staggering! The level of care and wait times alone for simple procedures aren't the model we'd want. Slavery analogy? That the best you can do? You love using extreme sip box examples to try and make a point since your not smart enough to use facts and data! And people chose between mortgages and health care because Obamacare premiums do high. And your insecure fake arrogant "what don't you understand" line you use on me and everyone else when your exposed as a fraud is old. Private healthcare is the only efficient and effective solution. Also again the illegals and deadbeats abuse the public system and drain resources before the tax payer can use the system he's payed for. And "kicking the can down the road" lmfao Obama had 8 years and all the support needed and failed! Why!! Because he looked out for illegals and deadbeats before the people working and paying for services!! Another reason Trump won! Face it, the election was a vote against Obama and his legacy! The guy was a failure
I don't have to go anywhere. I am an American and I love being one. Another secret for you. Government has Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act. Who is confused now about the role of government? lmao. I think many don't agree with your opinion of the role of our government. We all have our opinion. I don't share yours and I think I am smart enough. In fact I am pretty certain I am. You don't understand simple concepts and I do. It isn't arrogance...it is pissing excellence. That's what I do. All day errrday.

I think we tried private healthcare and it didn't work. So we have Obamacare. So, I don't agree.
 
So the 2.1million don't count? I'm not a healthcare provider and unlike you I don't act like I have answers I don't! Not my job to solve this problem!!
I, like you, don't have the answers to this but surely you must have some ideas on what you would like to see happen. When we moved to Utah from Florida for my wife's job, she had a bad Bronchial attack and had to go to the hospital for a few days. Because it happened before she had been there for 30 days it wasn't covered by insurance. That should never happen in my eyes as she had insurance when we moved and would have had it through her new job if only she would have gotten sick 12 days later. It's not like we were deadbeats that didn't want to pay for insurance but simply that it didn't kick in for 30 days.
 
It isn't mine either....is it? Everyone counts...which is why I think if you give 18 million coverage that otherwise wouldn't have it, it is great. Sorry but at least that is doing something....instead of saying it isn't my job to fix this problem...but I will point them out. That's not leadership...that is just a lack of a moral compass.
Is lying to people about something as important as healthcare a good "moral compass" is knowingly putting people on plans they knew would be dropped in just a few years a good moral compass? The nation was mislead and lied too! I will also point them out! I wonder if Chelsea Manning used Obamacare to have his "reassignment
I, like you, don't have the answers to this but surely you must have some ideas on what you would like to see happen. When we moved to Utah from Florida for my wife's job, she had a bad Bronchial attack and had to go to the hospital for a few days. Because it happened before she had been there for 30 days it wasn't covered by insurance. That should never happen in my eyes as she had insurance when we moved and would have had it through her new job if only she would have gotten sick 12 days later. It's not like we were deadbeats that didn't want to pay for insurance but simply that it didn't kick in for 30 days.
i agree, never said you were a deadbeat. Obviously I'm talking about the people on free healthcare for years abusing the system. I also live in Fla and emergency rooms here are filled with people abusing the system
 
I don't have to go anywhere. I am an American and I love being one. Another secret for you. Government has Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act. Who is confused now about the role of government? lmao. I think many don't agree with your opinion of the role of our government. We all have our opinion. I don't share yours and I think I am smart enough. In fact I am pretty certain I am. You don't understand simple concepts and I do. It isn't arrogance...it is pissing excellence. That's what I do. All day errrday.

I think we tried private healthcare and it didn't work. So we have Obamacare. So, I don't agree.
Lol it's funny your so naive, Govt has Obamacare or Affordable healthcare Act is the role of government?? Really it's governments role to provide healthcare? What simple concepts don't I understand? Explain, I'd enjoy hearing you lie and spin somemore. And if lying and spinning words is excellence yes you do "piss it"
CD do you realize how stupid you sound? Seriously? You do know that?? You sound like a fool
 
I, like you, don't have the answers to this but surely you must have some ideas on what you would like to see happen. When we moved to Utah from Florida for my wife's job, she had a bad Bronchial attack and had to go to the hospital for a few days. Because it happened before she had been there for 30 days it wasn't covered by insurance. That should never happen in my eyes as she had insurance when we moved and would have had it through her new job if only she would have gotten sick 12 days later. It's not like we were deadbeats that didn't want to pay for insurance but simply that it didn't kick in for 30 days.
Yep...this is unacceptable in my eyes. If people are willing to work and take care of their family we should all be afforded reasonable healthcare. Plain and simple. I don't want to hear excuses...and this is why I was saying I don't want this to happen to anyone here or their families.

This all goes back to how insurance companies treated Barack Obamas mother. He would tell the story about how he dealt with these insurance companies. He learned first hand and that is why I say I don't want anyone here dealing with any of this.

It is easy to sit back and worry about some billionaires taxes being raised so you can have decent healthcare insurance if you have no issues like this. When one day someone in your family has an issue and these companies tell you well, I know you paid all your premiums and everything is in order but we are dropping you just because we can. Sh't gets real....and they did it with the very poor first. Then the moderate. Then the middle class....and that is when it is a serious problem. Health doesn't care about class.
 
Is lying to people about something as important as healthcare a good "moral compass" is knowingly putting people on plans they knew would be dropped in just a few years a good moral compass? The nation was mislead and lied too! I will also point them out! I wonder if Chelsea Manning used Obamacare to have his "reassignment

i agree, never said you were a deadbeat. Obviously I'm talking about the people on free healthcare for years abusing the system. I also live in Fla and emergency rooms here are filled with people abusing the system
You don't see anything.
 
Is lying to people about something as important as healthcare a good "moral compass" is knowingly putting people on plans they knew would be dropped in just a few years a good moral compass? The nation was mislead and lied too! I will also point them out! I wonder if Chelsea Manning used Obamacare to have his "reassignment

i agree, never said you were a deadbeat. Obviously I'm talking about the people on free healthcare for years abusing the system. I also live in Fla and emergency rooms here are filled with people abusing the system
Sorry Ozona I didn't mean to imply that you thought we were deadbeats, just explaining what had happened to us and probably could have worded it a bit better. My brain, like the rest of my body is probably just tired from all the snow I had to shovel yesterday.
 
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Yep...this is unacceptable in my eyes. If people are willing to work and take care of their family we should all be afforded reasonable healthcare. Plain and simple. I don't want to hear excuses...and this is why I was saying I don't want this to happen to anyone here or their families.

This all goes back to how insurance companies treated Barack Obamas mother. He would tell the story about how he dealt with these insurance companies. He learned first hand and that is why I say I don't want anyone here dealing with any of this.

It is easy to sit back and worry about some billionaires taxes being raised so you can have decent healthcare insurance if you have no issues like this. When one day someone in your family has an issue and these companies tell you well, I know you paid all your premiums and everything is in order but we are dropping you just because we can. Sh't gets real....and they did it with the very poor first. Then the moderate. Then the middle class....and that is when it is a serious problem. Health doesn't care about class.
Luckily for us we had enough money to pay for it but it did require a bit of sacrifice for the first year that we lived here.
 
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Lol it's funny your so naive, Govt has Obamacare or Affordable healthcare Act is the role of government?? Really it's governments role to provide healthcare? What simple concepts don't I understand? Explain, I'd enjoy hearing you lie and spin somemore. And if lying and spinning words is excellence yes you do "piss it"
CD do you realize how stupid you sound? Seriously? You do know that?? You sound like a fool
Yep...I sound so stupid the supreme court agrees....lmao
 
Yep...this is unacceptable in my eyes. If people are willing to work and take care of their family we should all be afforded reasonable healthcare. Plain and simple. I don't want to hear excuses...and this is why I was saying I don't want this to happen to anyone here or their families.

This all goes back to how insurance companies treated Barack Obamas mother. He would tell the story about how he dealt with these insurance companies. He learned first hand and that is why I say I don't want anyone here dealing with any of this.

It is easy to sit back and worry about some billionaires taxes being raised so you can have decent healthcare insurance if you have no issues like this. When one day someone in your family has an issue and these companies tell you well, I know you paid all your premiums and everything is in order but we are dropping you just because we can. Sh't gets real....and they did it with the very poor first. Then the moderate. Then the middle class....and that is when it is a serious problem. Health doesn't care about class.
So it's your envy again rearing its head! And "deal with the middle class last" who you think pays for everyone? Just another reason Trump won! Clowns like you
 
Agreed with what? You understand what the decision was? Or this just more CD spin?

The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld a key part of the Affordable Care Act that provides health insurance subsidies to all qualifying Americans, awarding a major victory to President Obama and validating his most prized domestic achievement.Jun 25, 2015
 
So it's your envy again rearing its head! And "deal with the middle class last" who you think pays for everyone? Just another reason Trump won! Clowns like you

Actually he lost the popular vote (By about 3 Million) ...so running around telling us all how he is what the people wants isn't exactly accurate. I don't care about classes...I was just teaching you how it works.
 
The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld a key part of the Affordable Care Act that provides health insurance subsidies to all qualifying Americans, awarding a major victory to President Obama and validating his most prized domestic achievement.Jun 25, 2015
Ok so now that you've proven again yourself that your a liar and clueless, reread what you wrote! All the ruling states the government can provide subsidies for healthcare! Didn't rule it's the job of Govt you clown
 
Actually he lost the popular vote...so running around telling us all how he is what the people wants isn't exactly accurate. I don't care about classes...I was just teaching you how it works.
Popular vote not the goal, it's all about the 360! If you don't care about classes why did you spell out in ORDER who should be taken care of? Again talking out of both sides of your mouth! Actually it is accurate since 60 Million and 30 states voted for Trump!! Keep teaching me, lmfao!! I just again made you look foolish
 
Ok so now that you've proven again yourself that your a liar and clueless, reread what you wrote! All the ruling states the government can provide subsidies for healthcare! Didn't rule it's the job of Govt you clown
That is what was upheld. Otherwise, it wouldn't have even made it to the supreme court if the government had no rule in our healthcare. Keep trying though. Don't ever give up.
 
That is what was upheld. Otherwise, it wouldn't have even made it to the supreme court if the government had no rule in our healthcare. Keep trying though. Don't ever give up.
Lmfao, again spinning the topic! So now Government didn't say it's their responsibility!! Lmfao!! Keep spinning and talking out of both sides!! Lies and spin! Lmfao
 
Popular vote not the goal, it's all about the 360! If you don't care about classes why did you spell out in ORDER who should be taken care of? Again talking out of both sides of your mouth! Actually it is accurate since 60 Million and 30 states voted for Trump!! Keep teaching me, lmfao!! I just again made you look foolish

I think you make it about the popular vote by saying it is what the people want. It wasn't and judging by the polls the ones who did have buyers remorse. You couldn't make me look foolish on your best day....lmao. Sorry, but you don't have the chops.
 
I think you make it about the popular vote by saying it is what the people want. It wasn't and judging by the polls the ones who did have buyers remorse. You couldn't make me look foolish on your best day....lmao. Sorry, but you don't have the chops.
Even lying to yourself now! Wow your desperate! I just smashed your argument to pieces! You need a new battle plan
 
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