Alright guys - my wife and I are expecting our first child any day and with Covid running rampant we have decided to stay in the house until she comes. Needless to say, I have some extra time on my hands, so bare with me.
There has been a lot of talk about whether or not we have recruited well enough versus developed the talent once it arrives. I would like to state my position clearly. I believe that we have recruited well enough that we should be winning the Coastal every year and playing in Charlotte. Based on our team rankings and the fact we are one of about 20 teams in all of college football with a blue chip ratio over 50%, I think the numbers bare proof of that. However, some people, including @gferman believe the issue has been recruiting. Although we have signed a lot of 4*'s, Gary says that there are over 250 annually, so it is about signing the right 4*'s.
What I am going to do is go through each 4 and 5* player on the roster (not including the 2021 class as they have not played a snap) and review their offer sheets. Sure, every team misses on 4 and 5* players. They don't work out for whatever reason. But in my opinion, we have not done a good enough job of developing the players. I think the offer sheets will show that the majority of these players could have gone to a lot of schools, such as Bama, Clemson, FSU, Florida, LSU, Oklahoma, etc. Teams that are outperforming us annually. I am going to use 247 Composite Rankings to determine if they are a 4* or 5*.
QB:
N'Kosi Perry (4*, 199 Nationally): Offers from Miami, Auburn and Georgia
Tyler Van Dyke (4*, 222 Nationally): Offers from Miami, Michigan, Wisconsin,
RB:
Cam Harris (4*, 173 Nationally): Offers from Miami, Georgia, UNC, Oregon, USC
Don Chaney (4*, 114 Nationally): Offers from Miami, FSU, Georgia, LSU, ND, Oklahoma, Oregon
Jaylen Knighton (4*, 106 Nationally): Offers from Miami, FSU, Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Florida, LSU, Michigan, etc.
WR:
Mark Pope (4*, 67 Nationally): Offers from Miami, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Oregon
Mike Harley (4*, 305 Nationally): Miami was probably his best offer.
Michael Redding (4*, 171 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Auburn, FSU, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, ND, Oregon
Jeremiah Payton (4*, 54 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, UNC, Oregon
OL:
Cleveland Reed (4*, 259 Nationally): Miami, Florida, Ohio State, UNC, Oregon (Gary's boy offered him), USC
DJ Scaife (4*, 149 Nationally): Miami, NC State, UCF (this one is perplexing)
Navaughn Donaldson (4*, 72 Nationally): Miami, Florida, FSU, UNC, Georgia
Issiah Walker (4*, 157 Nationally): Miami, Florida, Auburn, FSU, LSU, Ohio State
Jalen Rivers (4*, 128 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Florida FSU, Georgia, Michigan, Texas
TE:
Brevin Jordan (4*, 33 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, FSU, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, USC
Will Mallory (4* 211 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Clemson, FSU, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, ND, USC
CB:
Al Blades (4*, 98 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Auburn, FSU, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Oklahoma
DJ Ivery (4*, 354 Nationally): Miami, Auburn, Georgia
Te'Cory Couch (4*, 340 Nationally): Miami, Michigan, LSU, Oregon, Oklahoma, Oregon
Isaiah Dunson (4*, 325 Nationally): Miami, FSU, UNC, Texas
DL:
Nesta Silvera (4*, 54 Nationally): Miami, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, FSU, Georgia, Ohio State,
Jahfari Harvey (4*, 210 Nationally): Miami, Georgia, Michigan, Oregon
Jason Blissett (4*, 294 Nationally): Miami, Florida, Texas A&M
ELijah Roberts (4*, 358 Nationally): Miami, Florida, FSU, Michigan, Oregon, UNC
Chantz Williams (4*, 84 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, LSU, FSU, Michigan, ND, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M
LB:
Avery Huff (4*, 207 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, FSU, Texas,
Zach McCloud (4*, 138 Nationally): Miami, Auburn, Alabama, Florida, FSU, Georgia
S:
Jalen Harrel (4*, 233 Nationally): Miami, Clemson, FSU,
Gurvan Hall (4*, 184 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, FSU, LSU, ND, Ohio State
Avantae Williams (4* 45 Nationally): Miami, Florida, Oregon, Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, USC
Gilbert Frierson (4* , 200 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, FSU, LSU, Oklahoma, USC
Keontra Smith (4*, 188 Nationally): Miami, Michigan, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Oregon
Observations:
The roster has 32 composite 4*s right now (there are more from rivals and more from ESPN, but I just used 247 Composite rankings to make it easier). The majority of them, if not all of them, have major SEC offers from the likes of Bama, Auburn, Georgia, LSU and Florida. The majority of them were recruited nationally, from the likes of USC, Oregon, Clemson, Ohio State, ND, etc. I was surprised at the offer list of a couple of players, DJ Scaife in particular. His best offer besides Miami was NC State? Maybe UCF? I believe Rivals had him as a high 4* player at like 6.0 rating.
LB recruting has just been terrible. No recurring and no development here. The good players they have signed haven't panned out.
Miami's recruiting classes have ranked (from 2016 -2020): 22, 12, 8, 27, and 16 for an average of 17 in the country. the two down years (22 and 27) were years in which there were coaching changes. The other three years class rankings were an average of 12.
This analysis is incomplete. Of course it doesn't analyze any of the 4 and 5* players they signed that have left for the NFL or transferred. it also doesn't analyze any of the lesser ranked players who may have had good offer sheets as three stars or less.
Conclusion:
Based on class rankings, as well as a deeper dive into the actual offer sheets of the 4*s, it remains my opinion that player development has been MORE of a problem than recruiting has. This does not mean I think recruiting has been good enough to win titles. It simply means i think we have recruited well enough to consistently win the coastal and beat the teams we have been losing to.
Curious to get peoples thoughts.
There has been a lot of talk about whether or not we have recruited well enough versus developed the talent once it arrives. I would like to state my position clearly. I believe that we have recruited well enough that we should be winning the Coastal every year and playing in Charlotte. Based on our team rankings and the fact we are one of about 20 teams in all of college football with a blue chip ratio over 50%, I think the numbers bare proof of that. However, some people, including @gferman believe the issue has been recruiting. Although we have signed a lot of 4*'s, Gary says that there are over 250 annually, so it is about signing the right 4*'s.
What I am going to do is go through each 4 and 5* player on the roster (not including the 2021 class as they have not played a snap) and review their offer sheets. Sure, every team misses on 4 and 5* players. They don't work out for whatever reason. But in my opinion, we have not done a good enough job of developing the players. I think the offer sheets will show that the majority of these players could have gone to a lot of schools, such as Bama, Clemson, FSU, Florida, LSU, Oklahoma, etc. Teams that are outperforming us annually. I am going to use 247 Composite Rankings to determine if they are a 4* or 5*.
QB:
N'Kosi Perry (4*, 199 Nationally): Offers from Miami, Auburn and Georgia
Tyler Van Dyke (4*, 222 Nationally): Offers from Miami, Michigan, Wisconsin,
RB:
Cam Harris (4*, 173 Nationally): Offers from Miami, Georgia, UNC, Oregon, USC
Don Chaney (4*, 114 Nationally): Offers from Miami, FSU, Georgia, LSU, ND, Oklahoma, Oregon
Jaylen Knighton (4*, 106 Nationally): Offers from Miami, FSU, Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Florida, LSU, Michigan, etc.
WR:
Mark Pope (4*, 67 Nationally): Offers from Miami, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Oregon
Mike Harley (4*, 305 Nationally): Miami was probably his best offer.
Michael Redding (4*, 171 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Auburn, FSU, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, ND, Oregon
Jeremiah Payton (4*, 54 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, UNC, Oregon
OL:
Cleveland Reed (4*, 259 Nationally): Miami, Florida, Ohio State, UNC, Oregon (Gary's boy offered him), USC
DJ Scaife (4*, 149 Nationally): Miami, NC State, UCF (this one is perplexing)
Navaughn Donaldson (4*, 72 Nationally): Miami, Florida, FSU, UNC, Georgia
Issiah Walker (4*, 157 Nationally): Miami, Florida, Auburn, FSU, LSU, Ohio State
Jalen Rivers (4*, 128 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Florida FSU, Georgia, Michigan, Texas
TE:
Brevin Jordan (4*, 33 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, FSU, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, USC
Will Mallory (4* 211 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Clemson, FSU, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, ND, USC
CB:
Al Blades (4*, 98 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Auburn, FSU, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Oklahoma
DJ Ivery (4*, 354 Nationally): Miami, Auburn, Georgia
Te'Cory Couch (4*, 340 Nationally): Miami, Michigan, LSU, Oregon, Oklahoma, Oregon
Isaiah Dunson (4*, 325 Nationally): Miami, FSU, UNC, Texas
DL:
Nesta Silvera (4*, 54 Nationally): Miami, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, FSU, Georgia, Ohio State,
Jahfari Harvey (4*, 210 Nationally): Miami, Georgia, Michigan, Oregon
Jason Blissett (4*, 294 Nationally): Miami, Florida, Texas A&M
ELijah Roberts (4*, 358 Nationally): Miami, Florida, FSU, Michigan, Oregon, UNC
Chantz Williams (4*, 84 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, LSU, FSU, Michigan, ND, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M
LB:
Avery Huff (4*, 207 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, FSU, Texas,
Zach McCloud (4*, 138 Nationally): Miami, Auburn, Alabama, Florida, FSU, Georgia
S:
Jalen Harrel (4*, 233 Nationally): Miami, Clemson, FSU,
Gurvan Hall (4*, 184 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, FSU, LSU, ND, Ohio State
Avantae Williams (4* 45 Nationally): Miami, Florida, Oregon, Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, USC
Gilbert Frierson (4* , 200 Nationally): Miami, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, FSU, LSU, Oklahoma, USC
Keontra Smith (4*, 188 Nationally): Miami, Michigan, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Oregon
Observations:
The roster has 32 composite 4*s right now (there are more from rivals and more from ESPN, but I just used 247 Composite rankings to make it easier). The majority of them, if not all of them, have major SEC offers from the likes of Bama, Auburn, Georgia, LSU and Florida. The majority of them were recruited nationally, from the likes of USC, Oregon, Clemson, Ohio State, ND, etc. I was surprised at the offer list of a couple of players, DJ Scaife in particular. His best offer besides Miami was NC State? Maybe UCF? I believe Rivals had him as a high 4* player at like 6.0 rating.
LB recruting has just been terrible. No recurring and no development here. The good players they have signed haven't panned out.
Miami's recruiting classes have ranked (from 2016 -2020): 22, 12, 8, 27, and 16 for an average of 17 in the country. the two down years (22 and 27) were years in which there were coaching changes. The other three years class rankings were an average of 12.
This analysis is incomplete. Of course it doesn't analyze any of the 4 and 5* players they signed that have left for the NFL or transferred. it also doesn't analyze any of the lesser ranked players who may have had good offer sheets as three stars or less.
Conclusion:
Based on class rankings, as well as a deeper dive into the actual offer sheets of the 4*s, it remains my opinion that player development has been MORE of a problem than recruiting has. This does not mean I think recruiting has been good enough to win titles. It simply means i think we have recruited well enough to consistently win the coastal and beat the teams we have been losing to.
Curious to get peoples thoughts.