The Manchester Massacre Reminds Us That Those Who Fail To Assimilate Are Likely To Assinate...

[advarkas]

Such is the issue in Europe, where that once peaceful, proud, prosperous continent now buckles under the rape, murder, and rioting of unvetted refugees who harbor terrorist intentions.

America is a country of immigrants. Each generation of immigrants arrives with their music, food, language, values, skills, and overall culture and weaves themselves into the fabric of American culture by also embracing American music, food, language, values, skills, and overall culture.

That is called assimilation.

Assimilation is generally defined as taking on the traits of the dominant culture to such a degree that the assimilating group becomes socially indistinguishable from other members of the society Assimilation is essential to a country's survival because it ensures that peoples from different origins will still share the same common values which are good for all. In the context of America, we all share the same civil liberties under the U.S. Constitution. We believe that all men are created equal. We believe in the same set of natural rights i.e., inalienable rights which cannot be taken away without due process of the law. That is what has truly made America great for centuries- that each generation of immigrants has woven itself into the fabric of American culture embracing traditional American values and sharing them with those who have been here longer.

I have undertaken a significant study of sociology the last 10 years, learning from some of the greatest of all time such as W.E.B Du Bois and my favorite Jurgen Habermas (from Dusseldorf in my family's home province of North Rhine-Westphalia). Indeed, my passion for sociology has significantly grown to an extent where I am now dedicating a chapter of conversation about it in my book. Sociologists have studied assimilation for thousands of years.

In the context of Europe, Muslim refugees from the Middle East have refused to assimilate into the cultures of the European countries to where they seek refuge. Rather than accept, embrace, and celebrate the different cultures of Europe, these Muslim refugees have mostly REJECTED the cultures of Belgium, England, France, Germany, Holland, and Italy. They don't appreciate the fact that these European countries have welcomed hundreds of thousands of them with open arms. They don't respect the native people. Most important of all, they don't assimilate into the cultures of these European countries. Rather, these Muslim refugees create their own intolerant isolated subcultures which clash with that country's culture. Indeed, Paulina Neuding had a good article about this issue last summer. (https://www.project-syndicate.org/c...-reality-for-women-by-paulina-neuding-2016-06). This is what happens when mental midget liberal politicians do not put their own people first, promote open borders, and fail to implement extreme vetting.

It comes has no surprise to me that Muslim refugees' refusal to assimilate into European culture, combined with mental midget liberal politicians' acceptance of open borders, has caused Europe to suffer a financial crisis, continent wide radical Islamic terorrism, and a RECORD scale of rape, robbery, and rioting that has not occurred since the Medieval Era. Simply stated, most of these Muslim refugees are lawless animals who wish to take over the entire continent of Europe by imposing their own draconian Middle Eastern cultural intolerance across the European continent. The ONLY way Europe will save itself is to elect moderate to conservative politicians who will finally put ITS people FIRST over these lawless animals. In my opinion, Europe must eject over 3,000,000 refugees from its continental borders in order to restore its economic stability, peace, and cultural identity. In Germany alone, I hope that the government ejects at least 250,000 refugees. Europe has almost hit a point of no return, and soon the effects may be irreversible. Extreme vetting must be implemented in order to allow citizenship for those who truly deserve it. Many, not most, must go.

England and the rest of Europe will continue to buckle under the siege of Radical Islamic Terorrism, unless it collectively cleans itself of this refugee crisis by helping to stabilize parts of the Middle East so that it can safely eject these refugees out of Europe and help them return to their native region.
Here are some links and videos which highlight the Muslim refugee crisis across Europe.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/36076...brutal-rape-of-15-year-old-girl-by-three-men/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...tlement-beata-szydlo-commission-a7741236.html

http://www.livetradingnews.com/refugee-crisis-left-europe-war-zone-40129.html#.WSRURNwkq70

http://www.gulf-times.com/story/548221/UN-warns-of-impact-of-refugee-crisis-on-global-sta

 

[cdwright40]

Huh? Assimilate? What is this 1939 Germany?The Manchester tragedy has nothing to do with assmilation....and everything to do with radicals. Who exist in every culture since the beginning of mankind and especially in Europe. Where you had Hitler, Stalin, the crusades and on and on.

People are proud of thier culture regardless if others believe otherwise. Therefore aren't necessarily interested in assimilation. Nor should they be forced do anything but respect local laws.

 

[289fia]

Huh? Assimilate? What is this 1939 Germany?The Manchester tragedy has nothing to do with assmilation....and everything to do with radicals. Who exist in every culture since the beginning of mankind and especially in Europe. Where you had Hitler, Stalin, the crusades and on and on.

People are proud of thier culture regardless if others believe otherwise. Therefore aren't necessarily interested in assimilation. Nor should they be forced do anything but respect local laws.

Yes but that is just the issue in most of the European countries that are facing crisis due to Islamic refugees ... a large % FAIL to respect local laws, the rights of host country nationals to have THEIR cultures. This is not a simple "immigrant" problem. We have had millions of immigrants from Mexico, Central America, and South America over the past 25 years with NONE of these issues. It is virtually 100% a Muslim issue.

 

[cdwright40]

Yes but that is just the issue in most of the European countries that are facing crisis due to Islamic refugees ... a large % FAIL to respect local laws, the rights of host country nationals to have THEIR cultures. This is not a simple "immigrant" problem. We have had millions of immigrants from Mexico, Central America, and South America over the past 25 years with NONE of these issues. It is virtually 100% a Muslim issue.

What does any of this have to do with what happened? Radicals are responsible for this. Not refugees.

 

[advarkas]

Huh? Assimilate? What is this 1939 Germany?The Manchester tragedy has nothing to do with assmilation....and everything to do with radicals. Who exist in every culture since the beginning of mankind and especially in Europe. Where you had Hitler, Stalin, the crusades and on and on.

People are proud of thier culture regardless if others believe otherwise. Therefore aren't necessarily interested in assimilation. Nor should they be forced do anything but respect local laws.

A country should not accept those who refuse to assimilate to that country's culture. The thrust of assimilation is to embrace the new country's culture and value systems while still maintaining an immigrant's own culture and value system. The co-existence and flourishing of old country's culture into new country's culture in harmony is the essence of assimilation.

Where you fail in your reply, as you often do in many of your replies because of either a lack of knowledge in that particular subject matter, an intent to troll, or an inability to admit you're wrong about something, is you put forth a false narrative which is irrelevant to the threshold issue being discussed. Such is this reply. The regimes of Hitler, Stalin, and to a lesser extent the crusades, as you cite, involve dicatorship types of governments i.e., fascism, totalitarianism, and monarchies. Assimilation is not even part of those types of governments because of the monolithic culture those types of governments seek to impose. Those types of governments do not concern themselves with assimilation. So by referencing Hitler and Staliin, you create a red-herring argument, which is a type of logical fallacy, and conflate two separate issues which are wholly irrelevant.

The issue of assimilation, as illustrated in my original post, involves Europe; MODERN DAY Europe. The countries of Europe all have some form of either a democracy or republic. England is technically a constitutional monarchy which in effect is essentially a democracy. Assimilation of Muslim refugees is absolutely necessary to the survival of those countries and their current forms of government, as it was to America and our Constitutional Republic the last 200 plus years.

Assimilation is a two way street for democracies and republics. One way is the new country opening its arms to immigrants who meet a specific criteria to become part of that country; the second way is that those immigrants embrace the values, culture, and traditions of the new country so that the assimilating immigrants become socially indistinguishable from the citizens of the new country. This is essential to a country's survival because it ensures that peoples from different origins will still share the same common values which are good for all.

I encourage you to read Social Forces, a collection of writings by Walter Hirsch in the late 1960's, a professor whom my father knew, who taught at UCONN, and Indiana I believe. A great American teacher. My parents are great examples of people who arrived to this country and assimilated; as did the Irish and Italians of the late 1800's and early 1900's; as did the Jewish immigrants of the 1930's and 1940's; as did the Cuban refugees in the 1960's, 1970's and 1980's; as did South American immigrants in more modern time.

 

[Dr.L.ThugU]

Huh? Assimilate? What is this 1939 Germany?The Manchester tragedy has nothing to do with assmilation....and everything to do with radicals. Who exist in every culture since the beginning of mankind and especially in Europe. Where you had Hitler, Stalin, the crusades and on and on.

People are proud of thier culture regardless if others believe otherwise. Therefore aren't necessarily interested in assimilation. Nor should they be forced do anything but respect local laws.

What does 1939 Germany have to do with assimilation, oh ignorant one?

 

[289fia]

What does any of this have to do with what happened? Radicals are responsible for this. Not refugees.

They are refugees .. and radical ones. That is one of the huge issues. There have been waves of immigrants from Syria .. 10,000 at at time .. a large % single men age 17-35. How many IS radicals have been integrated into those groups?

 

[cdwright40]

A country should not accept those who refuse to assimilate to that country's culture. The thrust of assimilation is to embrace the new country's culture and value systems while still maintaining an immigrant's own culture and value system. The co-existence and flourishing of old country's culture into new country's culture in harmony is the essence of assimilation.

Where you fail in your reply, as you often do in many of your replies because of either a lack of knowledge in that particular subject matter, an intent to troll, or an inability to admit you're wrong about something, is you put forth a false narrative which is irrelevant to the threshold issue being discussed. Such is this reply. The regimes of Hitler, Stalin, and to a lesser extent the crusades, as you cite, involve dicatorship types of governments i.e., fascism, totalitarianism, and monarchies. Assimilation is not even part of those types of governments because of the monolithic culture those types of governments seek to impose. Those types of governments do not concern themselves with assimilation. So by referencing Hitler and Staliin, you create a red-herring argument, which is a type of logical fallacy, and conflate two separate issues which are wholly irrelevant.

The issue of assimilation, as illustrated in my original post, involves Europe; MODERN DAY Europe. The countries of Europe all have some form of either a democracy or republic. England is technically a constitutional monarchy which in effect is essentially a democracy. Assimilation of Muslim refugees is absolutely necessary to the survival of those countries and their current forms of government, as it was to America and our Constitutional Republic the last 200 plus years.

Assimilation is a two way street for democracies and republics. One way is the new country opening its arms to immigrants who meet a specific criteria to become part of that country; the second way is that those immigrants embrace the values, culture, and traditions of the new country so that the assimilating immigrants become socially indistinguishable from the citizens of the new country. This is essential to a country's survival because it ensures that peoples from different origins will still share the same common values which are good for all.

I encourage you to read Social Forces, a collection of writings by Walter Hirsch in the late 1960's, a professor whom my father knew, who taught at UCONN, and Indiana I believe. A great American teacher. My parents are great examples of people who arrived to this country and assimilated; as did the Irish and Italians of the late 1800's and early 1900's; as did the Jewish immigrants of the 1930's and 1940's; as did the Cuban refugees in the 1960's, 1970's and 1980's; as did South American immigrants in more modern time.

First lets unpack this. There is quite a bit here.

My first point is i know a country that seems to be pretty great without requiring assimilation. It's called the United States of America. Our constitution gives us all freedom of religion. We do great with it because a lot of cultures live here without assimilation. They have thier religion and how they speak and dress as well as thier own communities. Again...as long as they respect the local law there are no issues. Which happens regardless of if you assimilate.

My comments regarding Hitler, Stalin and the crusades was in response to your comments regarding how trouble free Europe was. There has been instability there off and on for centuries. Like most places. Refugees are absolutely nothing new there or anyplace else on the planet. Including America.

 

[cdwright40]

They are refugees .. and radical ones. That is one of the huge issues. There have been waves of immigrants from Syria .. 10,000 at at time .. a large % single men age 17-35. How many IS radicals have been integrated into those groups?

Wait...how do you know they are refugees? You don't know this.

 

[289fia]

Wait...how do you know they are refugees? You don't know this.

Yes .. his parents are Lybian refugees .. and they had just returned to Lybia. Another peaceful Muslim family speaks out.

 

[advarkas]

First lets unpack this. There is quite a bit here.

My first point is i know a country that seems to be pretty great without requiring assimilation. It's called the United States of America. Our constitution gives us all freedom of religion. We do great with it because a lot of cultures live here without assimilation. They have thier religion and how they speak and dress as well as thier own communities. Again...as long as they respect the local law there are no issues. Which happens regardless of if you assimilate.

My comments regarding Hitler, Stalin and the crusades was in response to your comments regarding how trouble free Europe was. There has been instability there off and on for centuries. Like most places. Refugees are absolutely nothing new there or anyplace else on the planet. Including America.

I wholly disagree with your statement that "we do great with it because a lot of cultures live here without assimilation." Every community here has assimilated to one extent or another. Even Cubans who speak no English who live in Little Havana have still assimilated to some extent. Mexicans living in a remote town in Arizona have assimilated to one extent or another. Same with Russians in North Miami Beach. Even the Italians in New York coming off Elis Island ultimately assimilated to one degree or another. Assimilation is still taking place. America does not have massive pockets of subcultures where the people in those pockets of subcultures reject American culture in its entirety. Examples of those are few and far between containing less people, and are wholly distinguishable from the Muslim refugee subcultures which are wrecking the European culture left right and center.

No, no. Here in America, EVERYONE assimilates, because EVERYONE has a reason to assimilate- which is that the American culture is the BEST culture on the planet, second to none. Immigrants who arrive in America have always assimilated, and that IN TURN, has made AMERICA BETTER.

 

[andyctree]

The Great Depression was the reason for the assimilation in our country. It forced the rural cultural isolationist to move to the cities and assimilate with American culture. This whole discussion goes back to why do some cultures, presently, don't want to assimilate. Just maybe, it is because they don't feel like American culture is willing to accept them.

Problem solving 101 is that you have to find the root of the problem. Why do people not want to assimilate? Why do people not feel welcome? Why do people have a growing hatred and a desire to do damage to other cultures?

 

[advarkas]

The Great Depression was the reason for the assimilation in our country. It forced the rural cultural isolationist to move to the cities and assimilate with American culture. This whole discussion goes back to why do some cultures, presently, don't want to assimilate. Just maybe, it is because they don't feel like American culture is willing to accept them.

Problem solving 101 is that you have to find the root of the problem. Why do people not want to assimilate? Why do people not feel welcome? Why do people have a growing hatred and a desire to do damage to other cultures?

I disagree with your cause and effect statement in the first sentence of your reply. People emigrated from Europe to America PRIOR to 1929 and Cubans and South Americans emigrated from Cuba and South America to America SUBSEQUENT to 1945. There is no direct connection between the Great Depression starting with the Market's crash in 1929 and immigrants coming to America and assimilating here.

Second, I am not discussing this so-called inter-assimilation/intra-assimilation of Americans from rural to urban. That is a independent topic which is not synonyomous to either Muslim refugees emigrating from the Middle East to Europe or immigrants emigrating from Europe to America. Assimilation, by its very technical definition, means that a group of people are leaving one country and coming to another country. Your misapply the concept of assimilation by referencing a single group of citizens i.e., Americans, moving within America from rural to urban.

As to your final sentence in Paragraph 1 and again in the second sentence of Paragraph 2, that is an important question to ask i.e., "Why do people not want to assimilate?" Clearly, it is an issue in Europe. I can only speak to Germany, where Chancellor Merkel and the Provincial leaders of Germany have made several substantive efforts to educate Muslim refugees on reading, writing, and speaking German, refraining from sexual battery on women, and religious tolerance. There are plenty of reasons to assimilate in Germany. The largest minority in Germany is Turkish, the vast majority of which are Muslim. Muslim Turks and even Muslims from former Yogoslavia have assimilated well and thrived in Germany going back to the early 1990's after German Reuinifcation.

Middle Eastern Muslim refugees come from a region which is significantly underdeveloped, second only to Central Africa. Most of these people come from Middle Eastern countries where draconian Islamic doctrines dictate social norms which are wholly adverse to western culture and Judeo-Christian laws in Europe. On top of that, these Muslim refugees are sexually surpressed most of their lives. Then they arrive in Europe and they see beautiful white women in Holland, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, etc... and their sexual appetites take over and they become sexual predators. They don't care that European laws give women basic civil rights and can refuse a man's advances. That is why rape has skyrocketed in Europe, these refugees are animals who cannot keep their hands to themselves. They think Europe is a contintental buffet of women from which they can grope, kiss, and screw without regard to western laws and European cultural standards... Most of these refugees REFUSE to assimilate, and the end product is continental chaos across Europe. If these refugees don't shape up, then the European people WILL eject them out, either on a train or in caskets.

I predict that one of the following two things will occur in Europe re: Muslim refugees:

(1) Muslim refugees assimilate and over the next 30-50 years, a new poly-ethnic culture of Europeans will be born, prosper, and live in continental peace; or

(2) Muslim refugees will continue to resist assimilation, and will ultimately face mass deportation, murder, or imprisonment as a result of a de-facto civil war erupting in European countries due to citizens fighting to take back their country.

 

[cdwright40]

I wholly disagree with your statement that "we do great with it because a lot of cultures live here without assimilation." Every community here has assimilated to one extent or another. Even Cubans who speak no English who live in Little Havana have still assimilated to some extent. Mexicans living in a remote town in Arizona have assimilated to one extent or another. Same with Russians in North Miami Beach. Even the Italians in New York coming off Elis Island ultimately assimilated to one degree or another. Assimilation is still taking place. America does not have massive pockets of subcultures where the people in those pockets of subcultures reject American culture in its entirety. Examples of those are few and far between containing less people, and are wholly distinguishable from the Muslim refugee subcultures which are wrecking the European culture left right and center.

No, no. Here in America, EVERYONE assimilates, because EVERYONE has a reason to assimilate- which is that the American culture is the BEST culture on the planet, second to none. Immigrants who arrive in America have always assimilated, and that IN TURN, has made AMERICA BETTER.

When i hear the term "assimilation" it is to forgo ones own culture for another. To fully integrate into another culture. In my experience here there are a lot of communities that do not forgo or integrate.

To "some extent" is not assimilation necessarily.. You have to know some english for example to open a chinese resturant. That is not assimilation. You are buying thier food.

 

[cdwright40]

Yes .. his parents are Lybian refugees .. and they had just returned to Lybia. Another peaceful Muslim family speaks out.

Huh? His parents? That's ridiculous. He is not a refugee as i said. His parents were from syria. So were steve jobs parents. Does that make him a refugee too? Lol

 

[advarkas]

When i hear the term "assimilation" it is to forgo ones own culture for another. To fully integrate into another culture. In my experience here there are a lot of communities that do not forgo or integrate.

To "some extent" is not assimilation necessarily.. You have to know some english for example to open a chinese resturant. That is not assimilation. You are buying thier food.

Assimilation is done at different levels and in different ways.

I personally know a family who I would call "wholly assimilated" versus another family who is "partially assimilated". Assimilation does not require immediate and full adoption of the new country's culture. That process tends to take time, weeks, months, and years. Sometimes over the course of a generation or two. But the process of assimilation still starts in America.

For example, a grandfather may be partially assimilated when he first arrives; the grandfather's son becomes more assimilated as the natural progression of life ensues, and the father's son becomes full assimilated after approximately 50 years. That is very common. In the case of many Cubans, the grandfather escaped Cuba as a political refugee in the 1950's, had a son in the 1970's, who had a son in the 1990's. There is a gradual assimilation over the course of 50 years, but assimilation is still occurring. My parents were born in Germany; mostly assimilated in America, and I am here fully assimilated as a dual-citizen but native born American and Floridian. Each generation becoming less assimilated with the old country and more assimilated with the new country.

It is nearly impossible to consistently cite examples of those who successfully achieved in America without one iota of assimilation, because as I previously stated above, there is all the incentive to Assimilate in America, which is why people do it, albeit at different levels and in different ways.

I also encourage you to take a look at Professor Raymon Teske's article on "Aculturation v. Assimilation" which clarifies the subtle but significant technical distinction between an immigrant who fully and immediately assimilates upon arrival to a new country versus an immigrant who fully but gradually assimilates over time and through subsequent generations of family members.

 

[cdwright40]

Assimilation is done at different levels and in different ways.

I personally know a family who I would call "wholly assimilated" versus another family who is "partially assimilated". Assimilation does not require immediate and full adoption of the new country's culture. That process tends to take time, weeks, months, and years. Sometimes over the course of a generation or two. But the process of assimilation still starts in America.

For example, a grandfather may be partially assimilated when he first arrives; the grandfather's son becomes more assimilated as the natural progression of life ensues, and the father's son becomes full assimilated after approximately 50 years. That is very common. In the case of many Cubans, the grandfather escaped Cuba as a political refugee in the 1950's, had a son in the 1970's, who had a son in the 1990's. There is a gradual assimilation over the course of 50 years, but assimilation is still occurring. My parents were born in Germany; mostly assimilated in America, and I am here fully assimilated as a dual-citizen but native born American and Floridian. Each generation becoming less assimilated with the old country and more assimilated with the new country.

It is nearly impossible to consistently cite examples of those who successfully achieved in America without one iota of assimilation, because as I previously stated above, there is all the incentive to Assimilate in America, which is why people do it, albeit at different levels and in different ways.

I also encourage you to take a look at Professor Raymon Teske's article on "Aculturation v. Assimilation" which clarifies the subtle but significant technical distinction between an immigrant who fully and immediately assimilates upon arrival to a new country versus an immigrant who fully but gradually assimilates over time and through subsequent generations of family members.

I will look at your reference material....then come back to this. I am sure there is some bases to the information. I will see what is cited.

 

[advarkas]

I will look at your reference material....then come back to this. I am sure there is some bases to the information. I will see what is cited.

How America allows people to assimilate is one of the great things that makes America great in my opinion.

Here in America, we let immigrants who are worthy of becoming part of this country assimilate at different levels and in different ways. We don't stand at the Airports and Seaports and demand that people read, and write, and speak perfect English; we don't demand that they follow a specific religion; we don't demand that they be a specific race, color or creed. In America, we allow immigrants to lawfully live here by abiding by the Constitution, respecting law and order, and paying taxes. That's just about it. Some people want to dive right on in and become fully assimilated as soon as possible. Others take more time. Everyone is different and we embrace that in America. We don't have a clock that says you have to be assimilated by a certain year, month, and day, or we are going to eject you. No, America GIVES immigrants the incentive to assimilate because there are so many great reasons to do so, and because America is great when immigrants do assimilate.

It is safe to assume that almost every American believes this country is better now than it was in 1817, and that is because wave after wave after wave of new and different immigrants came to America and ultimately assimilated into America, regardless of whether that process took one generation or three generations.

In Europe, too many Muslim refugees have little to no effort to assimilate into the culture of each of those European countries. Muslim refugee subcultural communities have formed in numbers of 10,000, 25,000 and even 50,000. These Muslim refugee subcultural communities reject European cultures, laws, and values, instead adhering only to their draconian Islamic doctrines from the Middle East. The end result is an intentional act by Muslim refugees to isolate themselves within their Muslim subcultural communities, which in turn has created terrorism over time.

 

[cdwright40]

I disagree with your cause and effect statement in the first sentence of your reply. People emigrated from Europe to America PRIOR to 1929 and Cubans and South Americans emigrated from Cuba and South America to America SUBSEQUENT to 1945. There is no direct connection between the Great Depression starting with the Market's crash in 1929 and immigrants coming to America and assimilating here.

Second, I am not discussing this so-called inter-assimilation/intra-assimilation of Americans from rural to urban. That is a independent topic which is not synonyomous to either Muslim refugees emigrating from the Middle East to Europe or immigrants emigrating from Europe to America. Assimilation, by its very technical definition, means that a group of people are leaving one country and coming to another country. Your misapply the concept of assimilation by referencing a single group of citizens i.e., Americans, moving within America from rural to urban.

As to your final sentence in Paragraph 1 and again in the second sentence of Paragraph 2, that is an important question to ask i.e., "Why do people not want to assimilate?" Clearly, it is an issue in Europe. I can only speak to Germany, where Chancellor Merkel and the Provincial leaders of Germany have made several substantive efforts to educate Muslim refugees on reading, writing, and speaking German, refraining from sexual battery on women, and religious tolerance. There are plenty of reasons to assimilate in Germany. The largest minority in Germany is Turkish, the vast majority of which are Muslim. Muslim Turks and even Muslims from former Yogoslavia have assimilated well and thrived in Germany going back to the early 1990's after German Reuinifcation.

Middle Eastern Muslim refugees come from a region which is significantly underdeveloped, second only to Central Africa. Most of these people come from Middle Eastern countries where draconian Islamic doctrines dictate social norms which are wholly adverse to western culture and Judeo-Christian laws in Europe. On top of that, these Muslim refugees are sexually surpressed most of their lives. Then they arrive in Europe and they see beautiful white women in Holland, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, etc... and their sexual appetites take over and they become sexual predators. They don't care that European laws give women basic civil rights and can refuse a man's advances. That is why rape has skyrocketed in Europe, these refugees are animals who cannot keep their hands to themselves. They think Europe is a contintental buffet of women from which they can grope, kiss, and screw without regard to western laws and European cultural standards... Most of these refugees REFUSE to assimilate, and the end product is continental chaos across Europe. If these refugees don't shape up, then the European people WILL eject them out, either on a train or in caskets.

I predict that one of the following two things will occur in Europe re: Muslim refugees:

(1) Muslim refugees assimilate and over the next 30-50 years, a new poly-ethnic culture of Europeans will be born, prosper, and live in continental peace; or

(2) Muslim refugees will continue to resist assimilation, and will ultimately face mass deportation, murder, or imprisonment as a result of a de-facto civil war erupting in European countries due to citizens fighting to take back their country.

Dude you paint with way to broad a brush for my preference.

Hell you could say everything you described happens at fox news. They don't claim to be muslim. What makes European or American culture above the frey when it comes to disrespect for white women? Or any women.

We elected a president caught on tape bragging about it and it sure didn't seem to be such a big deal then now did it? Now disrespect for white women is an issue if some other culture comes and does it....either in Europe or here in the US?

Look man....this just never passed the sniff test for me. There are clearly a different set of rules if you plead white Christian dude...or with money. The moral goal post changes rather quickly and i just don't buy.

There is a lack of consistency to this argument i hear all the time from the right.

The truth is these people are just as great and just as shitty as everyone else. You could as easily get a steve jobs as you can a suicide bomber from refugees family.

 

[BreakingCane]

Dude you paint with way to broad a brush for my preference.

Hell you could say everything you described happens at fox news. They don't claim to be muslim. What makes European or American culture above the frey when it comes to disrespect for white women? Or any women.

We elected a president caught on tape bragging about it and it sure didn't seem to be such a big deal then now did it? Now disrespect for white women is an issue if some other culture comes and does it....either in Europe or here in the US?

Look man....this just never passed the sniff test for me. There are clearly a different set of rules if you plead white Christian dude...or with money. The moral goal post changes rather quickly and i just don't buy.

There is a lack of consistency to this argument i hear all the time from the right.

The truth is these people are just as great and just as shitty as everyone else. You could as easily get a steve jobs as you can a suicide bomber from refugees family.

We've seen pictures of you disrespecting white women posted on here, so what does that make you?

 

[ellu]

WEB? Assimilation? I don't understand any nexus.

I do believe this terrorist sick piece of radicalized trash was a fully assimilated student in Manchester. Most of these sick ****s who are radicalized are fully assimilated whether it be Orlando gay clubs, Black churches or Virginia Tech.

Kill all terrorists. Thats a good start. Making shit up is unnecessary, just end them.

 

[e_cushing]

there is a ton of attempts to make educated arguments (AJ) and nonsense BS responses (CD). The bottom line is this,

The Muslim people of the middle east want to destroy America. They want to destroy Europe. They want to take over the world. Are there some nice people mixed into that population? I would imagine there are some decent people in the millions of Muslims we are talking about. But the bottom line is, as the old saying goes, one bad apple can spoil the bushel. As a whole Muslims are to big a risk to allow into a civilized country. They typically do not follow laws, they bring nothing to the table, they only consume resources. They commit violent crimes daily. The way they treat women is beyond description. Only someone who hates the united States, hates women, and hates the American way of life would be for Islamic immigration.

 

[Dr.L.ThugU]

I will look at your reference material....then come back to this. I am sure there is some bases to the information. I will see what is cited.

Enjoy, Creepy Chris

 

[FlatlandCane]

there is a ton of attempts to make educated arguments (AJ) and nonsense BS responses (CD). The bottom line is this,

The Muslim people of the middle east want to destroy America. They want to destroy Europe. They want to take over the world. Are there some nice people mixed into that population? I would imagine there are some decent people in the millions of Muslims we are talking about. But the bottom line is, as the old saying goes, one bad apple can spoil the bushel. As a whole Muslims are to big a risk to allow into a civilized country. They typically do not follow laws, they bring nothing to the table, they only consume resources. They commit violent crimes daily. The way they treat women is beyond description. Only someone who hates the united States, hates women, and hates the American way of life would be for Islamic immigration.

 

[FlatlandCane]

You could as easily get a steve jobs as you can a suicide bomber from refugees family.