Your attitude on guns should be expected as you've been living among the Mormons for so long. Mormon-majority Utah has been called the most lenient state in America on gun control. Bunch of loons living in the past!
This is such a sad time in our lives that is so widely acceptable to so called Americans! It's just unacceptable and you are welcome to use your.....
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The most lenient state on gun control yet without the murder rates in states with tough "gun control" laws. Go figure. BTW, nice job on stereotyping all Mormons as loons. Some of the best people that I've met in my life are Mormon.
It's not just mental health. It's a gun problem coupled with a mental health problem. It's not one or the other. You don't give mentally unhealthy people access to assault weapons or anything is that is dangerous. That doesn't mean they won't find something else but one thing has nothing to do with the other. It's not a reason you don't allow a mentally challenged person to own an assault riffle.
You guys are using some crazy principle will there is no need to lock the gun cabnet with my 5 year in the room because there is a whole host of other things they can get into....lol. Huh? I think you still lock the cabinet dude.
I grew up in a house with loaded guns and no cabinet and my 3 kids have done the same with no incidents. It is absolutely a people problem otherwise we'd be hearing more stories of guns loading themselves and then going out hunting down victims. I haven't heard of one case where that has happened yet, have you?
That was uncalled for and I apologize. I from Colorado and knew many Mormons including my next door neigh bors who were fine people. My young son was babysat by a Mormon family and it's probably the healthiest he has ever been fed.
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You're fine mike, just giving you some crap on a cold and wet day here. My wife and I were actually shunned in the first neighborhood we moved to when we came here. My wife went to one of their houses for something and saw a map of the neighborhood on their refrigerator listing the religion of each household, so they could keep track of the non-members. The guy across the street from us would be out doing yard work and when he saw me coming in my car he would turn his back to the road. We lasted 2 years there before we moved. There are also some scary looking people, in a Deliverance kind of way, in some of the small towns you pass through out here. There are good and bad in all people.
Wouldn't surprise me. No group of comparable size comes close to matching the scale and organizational discipline of the Mormon's efforts to prepare for whatever catastrophe may come. The late Mormon president Spencer Kimball taught that all members should "be anxiously engaged in a positive program of preparation. It is not enough to hope for the best; we must prepare for it".Mike, if you could only see the arsenals that some of my neighbors have out here. Let's just say that many of them are quite prepared.
That's somewhat surprising since Mormons have always been taught that a dismissive attitude to the beliefs or faiths of others is sinful. In fact, the Book of Mormon condemns in the strongest terms those who adopt such an attitude. Probably as a result of the bias that they themselves faced. Like you said, there are good and bad in all people,
Prepared for what?Mike, if you could only see the arsenals that some of my neighbors have out here. Let's just say that many of them are quite prepared.
That is true for the most part but you have a few areas or neighborhoods where they are more cult like, especially back when we moved here nearly 30 years ago.
For anything that comes apparently. Many families here keep different seed stocked in their basement for what they call the end of times. The belief is that when Armageddon comes, food will be scarce and become the valuable commodity.
I've heard the quality of weed in Utah is some of the best on the planet. I suggest you drop a dime on your neighbors cause that weed has gotten the best of them.
Did you really just type that BS???????
You truly are an emotional moron.
To make this a political issue is asinine.
Republicans have also put forth a ban on these types of guns and Dems voted down the bill, but Scott. A black republican
STFU about what you know little about
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Between that and all the chemicals I've been using doing bike maintenance, you may have a point. You may have a point. Haha.
Didn't you guys make a big fuss in pointing out the race of our new Supreme Court Justice? Is this different again? Admit it, you're just upset that he doesn't belong to the party that tells blacks that they can't make it without whitey's help. Hurry, another one left the plantation.
Show me where I made "a big fuss" about the race of the newest Supreme Court Justice? I'm certain I talked about her qualifications and record. I will wait for your right wing response.
So, you never mentioned her race in any of the threads about her? It's not too late cems, you can still get away from the party that tries to keep you down.
I honestly don't recall being in those threads. That might have been while we were in FL.
I never brought up her race because that was not an issue for me. Apparently it was an issue for you cuz you brought it up.
Weird, I thought her race was made to be a big deal as the 1st AA woman to hold the job. Guess I was wrong.
You sir are a complete idiot and a dishonest man you have no perception of the truth and are the reason for the problem. Democrats like you don’t care about gun violence if you did you would do something about it in all the democrats run cities.
you are a total moron.
First of all you and your party are the racist!! You don’t say a thing about the gun violence in every democrats run city that is costing the lives of black and brown people every day . You only get mad when a law enforcement officer kills a black man that’s resisting arrest and has a record of being a lifetime criminal. You say nothing about the thousands of black and brown people getting shot everywhere because there’s no political win for you . And now you get all upset when a bunch of kids get killed. And you try to blame republicans for that . Your a complete asshole . Republicans believe in security democrats dont period end of story . You don’t care about the boarder you don’t care about the black and brown community unless it’s politically beneficial to the democrats ideology. Senator Scott proposed police reform democrats blocked it Trump tried to do a bill on guns democrats blocked it . Why because you fn idiots in the Democratic Party won’t admit that someone else is right and oppose anything by the other party because you can’t admit that you are wrong . You fn morons go around in life thinking your smarter than everyone else . Well you know what asshole your shit stinks just like everyone else’s.
If your just a asshole troll then so be it but I think your just a jackass . And if Gary wants to kick me off for call you a complete stupid mother ****er so be it . Your opinions and responses on here are absolutely what’s wrong with this country. Idiots like you try and spread hate and division that creates this crap . You sir are to blame because you refuse to protect our children with your ridiculous talking points that the majority of Americans totally disagree with.
So mr cems52 grow up quit being a sheep and a parrot look down next time you take a shower and if you see some balls act like a man and think for yourself.
Such a moron so don’t address the root problem just take away a weapon of choice from someone determined to kill. Gee I guess if they can’t get an ar 15 they will just become a model citizen. You also are a fn idiot. You and the rest of your cronies are absolutely stupid. You ignore facts and you live in a fantasy world. There’s always been bad evil people in this world and you bleeding heart liberals think you can pass a stupid ass law that will stop the lawless people that don’t care about your laws.
wake the fu## up
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How do you plan on making schools harder targets without training and arming school resource officers?
First of all I plan of voting for people that do make everyplace in America a harder target. Not just schools. Schools, grocery stores, places people go to pray to their God, movie theaters etc. Every place that has this problem. See, this is not just happening in schools. What you are referring to is not a solution to me. It's a reaction from people that live their lies and lives in fear. I don't live my life that way. I align myself with people who can offer real solutions. Not some third world country reaction.
Second of all I have said my opinion here. Yet, you guys keep asking me. Why is that? Could it possibly be that you don't give a shit about my opinion. Since this is the case why bother asking? I have said it here a million times.
This is not the first country to have this problem. We need people that solve problems. Not cater to people who cowardly want to do nothing but appease big donors and gun manufacturers. There is a lot we can be doing!!!! But refuse to do it. We would rather just keep asking the same questions. There is active legislation to be voted on. There are countries that have sharply attacked this problem and it is an extreme rarity there now. We need to do the things that give this country progression. We have to stop living in the past.
This isnt the 1700's. We don't need to form a Militia. We are just making lame ass excuses so we can have no morals. People can't live their lives freely in a taxed society without threat of assault now. That's morally wrong and anyone okay with this is void of morals to me.
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It's not gibberish. If you don't like the answer then you shouldn't ask. It's called gibberish because it is very difficult to hear that someone thinks you don't possess a moral compass here. It's not gibberish, it's my opinion. I said something about Militia. That's who. The reason is because that's the reason for the second amendment. We don't need to have the right to own assault weapons and you don't like being told this but that's the truth. You want to hide behind the second amendment but you take it out of context to suit your argument. That's why I mentioned Militia.
It's like those polygamist that take the bible out of context to justify banging all the chicks they want. That's what you all remind me of....and the fact of the matter is what is going on now is immoral.
Jack down. It's a right to bear arms. Not a right to own assault weaponry to mow down kids at school.
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The language it is written is what it is. Courts have upheld it. And Biden surrendered to the Taliban. I am going to lie out by my pool. Bye
You didn't answer my question. Scott's race should have nothing to do with this issue. He's a Republican and therefore supports the killing of children which you also support.
It's just asinine that you'll skip over the actual killers here, these crazies wandering through our society as law enforcement is pushed to the side while we coddle our criminal communities. Let's blame donors and manufacturers while enabling murderers, batterers, thieves and rapists to ravage the streets.
We have firearms because we 'appease big donors and gun manufacturers'?
No.
You question our morality, I question the same of you. You're so busy blaming those opposing your views that you and others of the Liberal side never totally refuse to consider that people are the cause and firearms are only tools. Take away their 'tool' and they'll find others to use. Remember Waukesha? Want to ban cars? Remember Oklahoma City? Want to ban fertilizer? Remember Kenosha, Portland, etc.? Want to ban bottles and gasoline? In NYC they've decided to push Asian women off subway platforms. Ban trains?
We need to limit firearm availability to the young and as many of the crazies as we can. Keep the school doors locked. Have armed guards and/or armed teachers, if they're qualified.
Switzerland has more guns per capita than we do, why aren't their guns killing people?
You said nothing about making schools harder targets. That's my concern. Bad people will always find a way to get guns. Something has to be done to make schools safer.I'm not taking about the Second Amendment or AR15's. I'm talking about concrete steps to make schools less vulnerable to this kind of violence.
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