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To who and on what planet does this make sense?

Here is where I piss off my conservative friends. How is this “list” not a due process violation? Is there a right to representation and/or judicial review prior to being placed on this government list? If it’s unconstitutional for other lists to exist how is a list like this ok?



Slightly different subject matter, but the argument is the same.
 
Here is where I piss off my conservative friends. How is this “list” not a due process violation? Is there a right to representation and/or judicial review prior to being placed on this government list? If it’s unconstitutional for other lists to exist how is a list like this ok?



Slightly different subject matter, but the argument is the same.
Actually it’s not. There is an approved process of documentation and you have to meet a very specific set statutes to be on that list. It’s been all the way through the courts! If you’re on those lists than I have got nothing for you.

These aren’t people who were mistakenly identified. They are properly documented and verified of their status. The race pimps gotta interject so they can interfere with law enforcement intelligence ops. By the way that intel protects you and your family more than what you know.

If you want to understand more about the checks and balances out in place from the state to the federal level here’s a link.

 
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Actually it’s not. There is an approved process of documentation and you have to meet a very specific set statutes to be on that list. It’s been all the way through the courts! If you’re on those lists than I have got nothing for you.

These aren’t people who were mistakenly identified. They are properly documented and verified of their status. The race pimps gotta interject so they can interfere with law enforcement intelligence ops. By the way that intel protects you and your family more than what you know.

If you want to understand more about the checks and balances out in place from the state to the federal level here’s a link.


To play devils advocate, again what is the due process? Does the person have the right to question the evidence presented that put them on the list? I don’t care that it’s in statute and it’s been ruled on by courts, because they’re never wrong right? Today an FBI agent got sentenced for changing an email that began one of the biggest investigations in our nations history. Even with millions in lawyers fees and 24/7 coverage it took years to unravel and the aggrieved to get some semblance of justice.

so again I ask what level of due process does some kid get that is placed on one of these lists when they shouldn’t be. Hell they wouldn’t even know, would they.

Your either for secret government lists or your against them.
 
To play devils advocate, again what is the due process? Does the person have the right to question the evidence presented that put them on the list? I don’t care that it’s in statute and it’s been ruled on by courts, because they’re never wrong right? Today an FBI agent got sentenced for changing an email that began one of the biggest investigations in our nations history. Even with millions in lawyers fees and 24/7 coverage it took years to unravel and the aggrieved to get some semblance of justice.

so again I ask what level of due process does some kid get that is placed on one of these lists when they shouldn’t be. Hell they wouldn’t even know, would they.

Your either for secret government lists or your against them.
Due process is in challenging the documentation itself. Of course they won’t do that because it meets statutory requirements, usually along with fingerprint documentation and signatures. Our does!

Almost every state has a gang enhancement statute but almost kindly ever uses it. Why? Because they don’t want to admit they have gangs. It’s the most stupid thing ever. I have Crip who broke into an FBI agents car, stole his M4, soft body armor and level 4 plates and carrier amongst many other things. The DA doesn’t want to pursue the enhancement even though I literally have a picture of the suspect holding the M4, armor stamped with fbi on it while throwing up his C 😂
 
To play devils advocate, again what is the due process? Does the person have the right to question the evidence presented that put them on the list? I don’t care that it’s in statute and it’s been ruled on by courts, because they’re never wrong right? Today an FBI agent got sentenced for changing an email that began one of the biggest investigations in our nations history. Even with millions in lawyers fees and 24/7 coverage it took years to unravel and the aggrieved to get some semblance of justice.

so again I ask what level of due process does some kid get that is placed on one of these lists when they shouldn’t be. Hell they wouldn’t even know, would they.

Your either for secret government lists or your against them.
I’m not a lawyer, but the article clearly states that this information can not be used for probable cause, so if this is just a data base of information about a group of people that are Gang members or have been identified as a gang member and that information is used to enhance other investigations, I don’t think this is a violation of rights... what rights are being violated ?

If this is just a tool to organize information. That has already been legally obtained...

The 80% minority part is BS, cause in reality probably 80% are minorities and in these major metropoltian areas it is probably higher
 
I didn’t even read it. Can’t do it. This shit just takes me to a bad place. I just need a break from it all. Sometimes I feel like I fell asleep and woke up in the twighlight zone. Never thought I would see the day.
 
I didn’t even read it. Can’t do it. This shit just takes me to a bad place. I just need a break from it all. Sometimes I feel like I fell asleep and woke up in the twighlight zone. Never thought I would see the day.
And it is designed to get worse.
 
Actually it’s not. There is an approved process of documentation and you have to meet a very specific set statutes to be on that list. It’s been all the way through the courts! If you’re on those lists than I have got nothing for you.

These aren’t people who were mistakenly identified. They are properly documented and verified of their status. The race pimps gotta interject so they can interfere with law enforcement intelligence ops. By the way that intel protects you and your family more than what you know.

If you want to understand more about the checks and balances out in place from the state to the federal level here’s a link.


The traitor that supports insurrection wants to talk about checks and balances. Lol. What a joke. As always you're a disgrace to this country and your profession.
 
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