Trump saves Carrier in Indiana and the Inner Cities are next.

[Dr.L.ThugU]

What was sinister about what I posted? I take stuff at face value and respond accordingly. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck. You know the rest.

Sinister by implication. Instead of asking me why I posted that video you made a blanket statement about my motives.

Bottom line is I'm a conservative and am not a big fan of liberal politicians . I am no fan of Obama, didn't vote for him and think he has been awful as president. I hated Hillary Clinton the candidate, AL Gore, John Kerry as well. Detest Harry Reid,Nancy Pelosi, Rahm Emanuel etc. The only thing they have in common is their politics. It's not about race all the time.

 

[normsmith]

Sinister by implication. Instead of asking me why I posted that video you made a blanket statement about my motives.

Bottom line is I'm a conservative and am not a big fan of liberal politicians . I am no fan of Obama, didn't vote for him and think he has been awful as president. I hated Hillary Clinton the candidate, AL Gore, John Kerry as well. Detest Harry Reid,Nancy Pelosi, Rahm Emanuel etc. The only thing they have in common is their politics. It's not about race all the time.

If you think Obama has been an awful president given what shape this country was in when he took office compared to where we are now tells me everything I need to know about you but that's a different story. Specifically, regarding the issue I initially commented on with respect to that video, I didn't see you posting any videos of some backwards ass, hillbillie, poor white trash welfare recipients who don't speak proper english.

 

[Dr.L.ThugU]

If you think Obama has been an awful president given what shape this country was in when he took office tells me everything I need to know about you but that's a different story. Specifically, regarding the issue I initially commented on with respect to that video, I didn't see you posting any videos of some backwards ass, hillbillie, poor white trash welfare recipients who don't speak proper english.

What does it tell you? That I'm against executive overreach, that I am disgusted with his foreign policy, that I think his administration is a fraud because they have manipulated the unemployment numbers, that by using quantitive easing they have made the economy weaker in the long run, that I don't like being lied to? I hope that's what it tells you about me.

As far as the video of a backwards hillbilly if I see a thread where it fits my position in the thread, as an example let's say we play LSU or the gaytors, you better believe I will post a video of a backwards hillbilly.

You keep focusing on the fact the lady was apparently not highly educated but I already explained my motivation for posting that video in particular. It's up to you to believe me or not.

 

[normsmith]

What does it tell you? That I'm against executive overreach, that I am disgusted with his foreign policy, that I think his administration is a fraud because they have manipulated the unemployment numbers, that by using quantitive easing they have made the economy weaker in the long run, that I don't like being lied to? I hope that's what it tells you about me.

As far as the video of a backwards hillbilly if I see a thread where it fits my position in the thread, as an example let's say we play LSU or the gaytors, you better believe I will post a video of a backwards hillbilly.

You keep focusing on the fact the lady was apparently not highly educated but I already explained my motivation for posting that video in particular. It's up to you to believe me or not.

I'm not going to get into a never ending back and forth conversation with you as to whether or not President Obama was a good president given the level of racism, obstructionism and any other ism that you can think of that he faced. Foreign policy? Are you referring to the foreign policy that killed Bin Laden? something George W damm sure didn't do. The foreign policy that pulled MY fellow men and women in uniform out of Iraq, where we shouldn't have been in the first fvckin place, another Bush/Cheney debacle for which they should have been brought up on war crime charges. Numbers don't lie. I guess he doesn't get credit for bailing out the auto industry which kept this country out of another Great Depression or 8 years of steady job growth which cut the unemployment rate in half. I guess you don't have a problem with Donald Trump's unabashed affection for Vladimir Putin and him shitting on the very intelligence community that's going feed him information for which he has to make life or death decisions about our national security.

 

[Dr.L.ThugU]

I'm not going to get into a never ending back and forth conversation with you as to whether or not President Obama was a good president given the level of racism, obstructionism and any other ism that you can think of that he faced. Foreign policy? Are you referring to the foreign policy that killed Bin Laden? something George W damm sure didn't do. The foreign policy that pulled MY fellow men and women in uniform out of Iraq, where we shouldn't have been in the first fvckin place, another Bush/Cheney debacle for which they should have been brought up on war crime charges. Numbers don't lie. I guess he doesn't get credit for bailing out the auto industry which kept this country out of another Great Depression or 8 years of steady job growth which cut the unemployment rate in half.

Sir, I was in Iraq. I believed then and believe now we should have been there.

No need for a back and forth being that your mind is made up. You ignored my statement about the unemployment numbers being manipulated. Go look at the participation % in the workforce. He didn't employ more people, he just stopped counting unemployed people as being unemployed because they were unemployed for too long. Makes no sense , right?

Speaking of being brought up on war crimes. His entire administration should have to answer for the atrocities during the Arab spring, Libya, the countless victims of I.S.I.S. which he naively called a non threat and the j.v. team. He announced when he was pulling out troops which turned our allies against us. We had stabilized Iraq after the surge in 2006, I was there. How about his betrayal of Israel? We need Israel.

How about domestically? I thought if you liked your Healthcare plan you could keep it , no? How about the way his justice department has behaved? The Obama administration has refused to enforce the law.

We are at different ends of the political spectrum but I'm not sure why you decided to make an issue of a post I made close to a month ago in a thread I hadn't revisited.


P.S. I would also like to hear your thoughts on quantitive easing since you are telling me about him saving us from another great depression.

While you're at it you also failed to mention your thoughts on the Iran deal, maybe you care to comment on the S.T.A.R.T. treaty? Look it up then tell me who bent over for Russia.

 

[normsmith]

Sir, I was in Iraq. I believed then and believe now we should have been there.

No need for a back and forth being that your mind is made up. You ignored my statement about the unemployment numbers being manipulated. Go look at the participation % in the workforce. He didn't employ more people, he just stopped counting unemployed people as being unemployed because they were unemployed for too long. Makes no sense , right?

Speaking of being brought up on war crimes. His entire administration should have to answer for the atrocities during the Arab spring, Libya, the countless victims of I.S.I.S. which he naively called a non threat and the j.v. team. He announced when he was pulling out troops which turned our allies against us. We had stabilized Iraq after the surge in 2006, I was there. How about his betrayal of Israel? We need Israel.

How about domestically? I thought if you liked your Healthcare plan you could keep it , no? How about the way his justice department has behaved? The Obama administration has refused to enforce the law.

We are at different ends of the political spectrum but I'm not sure why you decided to make an issue of a post I made close to a month ago in a thread I hadn't revisited.


P.S. I would also,like to hear your thoughts on quantitive easing since you are telling me about him saving us from another great depression.

While you're at it you alao,failed to mention your thoughts on the Inn deal, maybe you care to comment on the S.T.A.R.T. treaty? Look it up then tell me who bent over for Russia.

Well if you served in Iraq, I guess you can speak on foreign policy because you and I were instruments of that policy. We should have been there for the first Gulf War perhaps and I did several tours in the Arabian Gulf during that time and even then we were protecting Arab oil and the Bushes made their money in what industry? There is no way in hell we should have been there for the second Iraqi war and you can't convince me otherwise. What was the justification? WMD? Did we find any? Hell no. Saddam Hussein's alleged ties to Al Quaeda? Did we find any evidence of that? Hell no. Colin Powell himself adviced George W. not to invade Iraq because he felt that it would destabilize the region and guess what happened which is why the surges were necessary IMO and out of which ISIL was born. As far as the economy, you don't cut the unemployment rate in half by simply fudging the numbers. Were there folks who were unemployed, underemployment that were factored in? Certainly but BLS has recorded years of steady job growth.
As for the Start Treaty, that goes back to the Reagan Administration and George H.W. Bush signed that deal. Lastly, I usually don't come in the Lounge which is why I responded to your post a month after the fact.

 

[Dr.L.ThugU]

Well if you served in Iraq, I guess you can speak on foreign policy because you and I were instruments of that policy. We should have been there for the first Gulf War perhaps and I did several tours in the Arabian Gulf during that time and even then we were protecting Arab oil and the Bushes made their money in what industry? There is no way in hell we should have been there for the second Iraqi war and you can't convince me otherwise. What was the justification? WMD? Did we find any? Hell no. Saddam Hussein's alleged ties to Al Quaeda? Did we find any evidence of that? Hell no. Colin Powell himself adviced George W. not to invade Iraq because he felt that it would destabilize the region and guess what happened which is why the surges were necessary IMO and out of which ISIL was born. As far as the economy, you don't cut the unemployment rate in half by simply fudging the numbers. Were there folks who were unemployed, underemployment that were factored in? Certainly but BLS has recorded years of steady job growth.
As for the Start Treaty, that goes back to the Reagan Administration and George H.W. Bush signed that deal. Lastly, I usually don't come in the Lounge which is why I responded to your post a month after the fact.

I was referring to https://www.state.gov/t/avc/newstart/index.htm

In any case. I appreciate the civil discussion.

As far as I'm concerned we don't agree on politics but that's ok. Hopefully you see it the same way.

 

[GILL06]

No, I'm not casting aspersions about all blacks. I posted it not because of her use of the language, her diction or whether she used an Obama phone or not. I posted it because this lady was a symbol of unwavering Obama support and after a couple years of what she perceived as unfulfilled promises she lost faith in him/democratic party promises. That's all, nothing as sinister or deep as what you posted.

She is a symbol for Obama? LOL...Dr. Thug...come on man. That is like saying that redneck hat that Trump has worn during the last few years is a symbol for the racist white folks that put him in office...use common sense. A previous poster brought out a great point...why do you super conservative, seemingly racist fans even watch basketball and football..90% of the players are African-American and you guys consistently post the most overtly racist bs on the site? You love posting derogatory anti-African American nonsense, there are tons of redneck, trailer park stuff that could be posted...but who has the time?

 

[normsmith]

I was referring to https://www.state.gov/t/avc/newstart/index.htm

In any case. I appreciate the civil discussion.

As far as I'm concerned we don't agree on politics but that's ok. Hopefully you see it the same way.

I was thinking the same thing about the civil discussion piece and tried that with JTH007 and tried to present him some facts about the Carrier deal of Trump's that he was bragging about because I live in Indiana. He took me there with the name calling so I had to respond in kind.

 

[GILL06]

So you're casting aspersions that all blacks don't use proper english or diction, have to use Obama phones and need public assistance? This video and anyone who thinks this shit is funny is racist. This isn't fvckin funny. I find it pretty ironic how alot of you and your other racist buddies root for the Canes with predominantly African American student athletes but come on here in the lounge and espouse all of this racist bullshit. Why don't you clowns go root for BYU or some other team that has mostly white players.

See him for what he is...they root for a cause they could never join because they will never be good enough. Penis envy.

 

[Dr.L.ThugU]

She is a symbol for Obama? LOL...Dr. Thug...come on man. That is like saying that redneck hat that Trump has worn during the last few years is a symbol for the racist white folks that put him in office...use common sense. A previous poster brought out a great point...why do you super conservative, seemingly racist fans even watch basketball and football..90% of the players are African-American and you guys consistently post the most overtly racist bs on the site? You love posting derogatory anti-African American nonsense, there are tons of redneck, trailer park stuff that could be posted...but who has the time?

There you go again. Mr.Smith spoke to me like an adult. I tried to show him the same respect he showed me. You jump in the thread saying "you love to post derogatory anti-African American nonsense " and you say I consistently post overtly racist BS on the site.

If you want a reply other than a dismissive quip that includes an expletive then talk to me like a man not like a petulant child.

 

[Dr.L.ThugU]

I was thinking the same thing about the civil discussion piece and tried that with JTH007 and tried to present him some facts about the Carrier deal of Trump's that he was bragging about because I live in Indiana. He took me there with the name calling so I had to respond in kind.

I'm gonna let you in on something. I made it no secret during the primaries that I wasn't a Trump supporter. I was backing Rubio. I only voted Trump because the other choice was Hillary and to me she was unacceptable.

I've enjoyed talking to you. Maybe we can continue this talk another time. There are things I don't understand that maybe you could help me understand, I'm being serious. I'll start a thread and tag you in it so you get an alert sometime in the near future.

 

[Dr.L.ThugU]

See him for what he is...they root for a cause they could never join because they will never be good enough. Penis envy.

You demean yourself. You're too dumb to understand why.

 

[GILL06]

You demean yourself. You're too dumb to understand why.

YAWWWWNNNNN. You are seriously boring now Dr. Thug. Go find Elian...

 

[GILL06]

You demean yourself. You're too dumb to understand why.

I didn't mention you in the post, but I betcha the penis envy rang a bell! LOL...you are as dumb as Ardavrkass

 

[normsmith]

I'm gonna let you in on something. I made it no secret during the primaries that I wasn't a Trump supporter. I was backing Rubio. I only voted Trump because the other choice was Hillary and to me she was unacceptable.

I've enjoyed talking to you. Maybe we can continue this talk another time. There are things I don't understand that maybe you could help me understand, I'm being serious. I'll start a thread and tag you in it so you get an alert sometime in the near future.

That's cool, I feel the opposite way and wanted Bernie to get the nomination and let’s just say I voted against Trump rather for HRC. I think he would have done more for blacks than any other democrat. He actually fought for civil rights and went to jail for standing up for blacks folks.