What’s your opinion on raising the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour?

[Raoul2]

do a little research beyond what the catch words mean. Renewable energy is decades away from being even remotely an option. The biggest issue of all, whether it is solar, wind, hydro, etc is how do you store a high percentage of electricity that is generated? Battery cell technology is in its infancy. The byproduct of the current technology is what do you do with all the battery cells when they are at their life span?

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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this is only 3 million. Imagine when there are 100+ million EVs on the road in the US. Imagine when the battery cells from other forms of “renewable” energy meet their life span. That’s a lot of concentrated chemicals/materials to find a use for.

listen I am a fan of the potential of renewable energy. I have my order in for the Tesla Cybertruck, though I’ll be keeping my Suburban and Chevy 2500HD. But back to the original discussion, Biden has already tipped his hand. His energy policies will lead to increase costs as will his minimum wage policy will cause un and underemployment to rise considerably.

One thing that legislators look at is the intended consequence of their idea. One thing they never look at is the unintended consequences. That’s why for every law we have hundreds if not thousands of additional regulations to clarify, appease, undo, the original legislation.

Clean and energy and renewables are here now and companies are aggressively investing in them now. This isn't just about electric vehicles, its about a holistic paradigm change similar to that of horse and buggy to automobiles. The old way is going away and the new way is replacing it, and with that the entire jobs industry is shifting towards the renewable market. Time to start leaning forward instead of clutching at the past as if its coming back, when in reality it isn't.

 

[Urban307]

Clean and energy and renewables are here now and companies are aggressively investing in them now. This isn't just about electric vehicles, its about a holistic paradigm change similar to that of horse and buggy to automobiles. The old way is going away and the new way is replacing it, and with that the entire jobs industry is shifting towards the renewable market. Time to start leaning forward instead of clutching at the past as if its coming back, when in reality it isn't.

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and ask California how great that’s going for them. Perfect it then bring It to the table

 

[CaneBandit]

Clean and energy and renewables are here now and companies are aggressively investing in them now. This isn't just about electric vehicles, its about a holistic paradigm change similar to that of horse and buggy to automobiles. The old way is going away and the new way is replacing it, and with that the entire jobs industry is shifting towards the renewable market. Time to start leaning forward instead of clutching at the past as if its coming back, when in reality it isn't.

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Until it’s affordable for everyone, the current way, which is not the old way, is not going away any time soon, no matter how much propaganda you’re pushing!

 

[SolarCane]

Clean and energy and renewables are here now and companies are aggressively investing in them now. This isn't just about electric vehicles, its about a holistic paradigm change similar to that of horse and buggy to automobiles. The old way is going away and the new way is replacing it, and with that the entire jobs industry is shifting towards the renewable market. Time to start leaning forward instead of clutching at the past as if its coming back, when in reality it isn't.

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Yep.

It's Official: Solar Is the Cheapest Electricity in History

Tough break for fossil fuels.

www.popularmechanics.com

 

[dmatt]

My opinion it hurts those it’s intended to help, and absolutely can devastate small businesses. Unfortunately good intentions sometimes can bring on unwanted consequences. Here’s an article on a few of Biden’s executive orders.
Try to rent a 2 bedroom apt for minimum wage...Just try...

Biden Just Gave $15/Hr Minimum Wage Its Biggest Push Ever with Two Separate Moves Friday

Biden pushed hard for an increase to the minimum wage on Friday, both in a speech and through an executive order.

www.westernjournal.com

 

[Raoul2]

Good stuff

 

[Urban307]

Good stuff

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serious question. Why $15. That’s only $31k a year. Why not $20, or $25. Heck make it $30 for everyone regardless of job and everyone can lead a comfortable life right? Everyone should make the same right, regardless of work ethic, intelligence, or work product. Why should a world renowned surgeon make more than the guy who finished last in his class and has no client base? Why should Lebron make more than some guy in the developmental league? Socialism is socialism. Be honest and argue to go all in.

 

[verowright]

Good stuff

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Raoul2 you are disconnected from reality!

 

[Raoul2]

serious question. Why $15. That’s only $31k a year. Why not $20, or $25. Heck make it $30 for everyone regardless of job and everyone can lead a comfortable life right? Everyone should make the same right, regardless of work ethic, intelligence, or work product. Why should a world renowned surgeon make more than the guy who finished last in his class and has no client base? Why should Lebron make more than some guy in the developmental league? Socialism is socialism. Be honest and argue to go all in.

Its obviously not socialism since we already have a minimum wage and no rational person is calling it that now. Second, $15 is a federal minimum, which of course doesn't prevent individual states from going much higher. CA, NY, MA and a few other states are much more expensive and would probably go significantly higher than 15.

 

[Allied2651]

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Raoul - you're a Cane so I will stay respectable. That's where it ends. It is very simple...if wages are increased, everything else that these minimum wage employees effect will cause the cost of what you are buying to go up proportionately. That's assuming that the businesses affected will maintain their margins. So, in closing, nothing gained in the long run. Business 101!

 

[Raoul2]

Raoul - you're a Cane so I will stay respectable. That's where it ends. It is very simple...if wages are increased, everything else that these minimum wage employees effect will cause the cost of what you are buying to go up proportionately. That's assuming that the businesses affected will maintain their margins. So, in closing, nothing gained in the long run. Business 101!

I posted several studies that showed evidence that the rise in inflation relative to a higher minimum wage is negligible. I don't know what to say beyond what the the data shows.

 

[816_Cane]

Thank goodness the lockdowns worked so well. Now we’ve got a ton more people in poverty without jobs and with the increase to minimum wage they’ll be out of work for a nice long time.

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Allied2651]

I posted several studies that showed evidence that the rise in inflation relative to a higher minimum wage is negligible. I don't know what to say beyond what the the data shows.

Its not just inflation, if there is a cost of goods and services , businesses will pass it on. They will try to maintain their margins.

 

[El Cubano]

Nobody wants to cut into business profits, but it's time.

You cant assume every business is profitable to afford the 15.00 an hour wage hike..
This could hurt more people both owners and workers..

 

[Urban307]

Its obviously not socialism since we already have a minimum wage and no rational person is calling it that now. Second, $15 is a federal minimum, which of course doesn't prevent individual states from going much higher. CA, NY, MA and a few other states are much more expensive and would probably go significantly higher than 15.

it’s an arbitrary amount Raoul. Why not $20 or $30? Argue for full blown collectivism. Rather than look at the bottom, maybe say no one can make more than $50,000 regardless of job and use the rest for those who don’t want to work. It sure isn’t capitalism or free market.

 

[MungoGungo]

Why Minimum Wage Policies Do More Harm Than Good

The Biden Administration is currently pushing the idea of raising the Federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 an hour. While presented under the guise of helping lower income Americans, this aggressive policy proposal is actually an impetuous and injudicious solution that would harm the very...

www.dailywire.com

 

[Allied2651]

Big article written today by Gannett owned papers all about the wage increase to $15 / hr and the effect on the restaurant industry. Jobs will be cut with the most efficient retaining their positions, etc. Basically, this will affect most service industry businesses in a very negative way. All the minimum wage increase is going to do will result in an increase cost of goods and services. It's going to be passed on to the consumer. The same consumer that just got the increase! It's a big circle jerk.

 

[MungoGungo]

Interesting.

2 California supermarkets closing after city orders pay hike

Kroger Co. will close two Southern California supermarkets in response to a local ordinance requiring extra pay for certain grocery employees working during the pandemic. The decision announced by the company Monday follows a unanimous vote last month by the Long Beach City Council mandating a...

www.yahoo.com

 

[CaneBandit]

I posted several studies that showed evidence that the rise in inflation relative to a higher minimum wage is negligible. I don't know what to say beyond what the the data shows.

I showed otherwise. You ignored real data.

 

[Allied2651]

Interesting.

2 California supermarkets closing after city orders pay hike

Kroger Co. will close two Southern California supermarkets in response to a local ordinance requiring extra pay for certain grocery employees working during the pandemic. The decision announced by the company Monday follows a unanimous vote last month by the Long Beach City Council mandating a...

www.yahoo.com

When their are few choices to go to buy food, the Libs will roll back this hazard pay B.S. These idiots treat businesses that supply essential goods as bad guys. You can't make this shit up!

 

[GLFSTRM]

Hurry, let's bring in more unskilled workers at $15 hr, should lower the AA unemployment rate