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History has proven them correct, given that Putin has turned out to be a modern day Adolf Hitler (and I don't use that comparison lightly). He's a totalitarian, fascist sitting atop the world's largest stockpile of nukes, all the while invading his neighbors and committing genocide along the way. This is a moment for America to lean forward and lead from the front instead of silently cowering from the rear while Europe crumbles.
No he’s not a Hitter
Far from it
And Europe is not crumbling
What Hyperbole

Russia has a GDP , less than Italy
The European Union and NATO dwarf Russia economically and militarily
By far .
Putin may be crazy . He’s not stupid.

And is Putin the real problem?
There are dozens of like minded people in Russia
He and his policies are favored by a majority of Russian people
The propaganda machine here and in Europe make it out to be a one man problem.
If we continue to push for the destruction of Russia, they will have few options left
 
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It has everything to with how Trump dealt with Putin
Trump was hesitant to accuse Putin of any election interference as the press and the intelligence community that he inherited from Obama immediately attempted to connect any interference with Trump . They were peddling the farce that he was complicit in any interference.
The fake Mueller Investigstion, which had no real basis to exist added to this
Trump was handcuffed in dealing with Putin because of these baseless allegations. What was he supposed to do ? Fistfight with Putin?

This entire situation, including the destruction of Ukraine and the death of 1000’s of Ukrainians can be tied directly to the false attack on Trump from the inception of his presidency regarding fake Russian collusion.
Save the indignant rant and explain how Trump's call to Georgia secretary of State asking him to find 11,000 votes was not election interference.
 
What's wrong with an open line of communication? With no talk, nothing happens. It doesn't mean that you change your policy towards these criminals.
There's nothing wrong with an open line of communication but there is a problem with taking their word over that of your own Intel agencies.
 
Please provide the evidence of the Russian election interference in 2016- facts not left wing opinion.
Please explain how Trump's call to Georgia Secretary of State asking him to find 11,000 votes was not election interference.
 
No he’s not a Hitter
Far from it
And Europe is not crumbling
What Hyperbole

Russia has a GDP , less than Italy
The European Union and NATO dwarf Russia economically and militarily
By far .
Putin may be crazy . He’s not stupid.

And is Putin the real problem?
There are dozens of like minded people in Russia
He and his policies are favored by a majority of Russian people
The propaganda machine here and in Europe make it out to be a one man problem.
If we continue to push for the destruction of Russia, they will have few options left

He has literally invaded a European nation and is threatening other European nations (Moldova, Finland, Sweden) at this very moment.

Is Putin really the problem ? Yes, he really is. It doesn't matter whether there are other idiots in Russia. He is in charge and runs the nation as an autocratic police state, therefore the buck stops with him. Any attempt to downplay his actions is supportive of his actions.
 
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There's nothing wrong with an open line of communication but there is a problem with taking their word over that of your own Intel agencies.
How do we know that. Is it wrong to question? It was the media that said he wasn't taking the word of his own intel agencies. How can anyone with half a brain trust the media!
 
It has everything to with how Trump dealt with Putin
Trump was hesitant to accuse Putin of any election interference as the press and the intelligence community that he inherited from Obama immediately attempted to connect any interference with Trump . They were peddling the farce that he was complicit in any interference.
The fake Mueller Investigstion, which had no real basis to exist added to this
Trump was handcuffed in dealing with Putin because of these baseless allegations. What was he supposed to do ? Fistfight with Putin?

This entire situation, including the destruction of Ukraine and the death of 1000’s of Ukrainians can be tied directly to the false attack on Trump from the inception of his presidency regarding fake Russian collusion.
Next time we meet, give me some of that shzt you been smoking. Smfh
 
How do we know that. Is it wrong to question? It was the media that said he wasn't taking the word of his own intel agencies. How can anyone with half a brain trust the media!
He took Putin's word over his own Intel agencies in front of the whole world at the Helsinki Summit. Despite conclusions of his Intel agencies he issued a statement on bin Salman saying, "Maybe he did and maybe he didn't". He took Kim Jong at his word that Kim was unaware of the alleged mistreatment of an American college student who died after being imprisoned. Again, against the conclusions of his own Intel agencies. He also took to Twitter to downplay a series of North Korean ballistic missile launches to defend Kim Jong Un. Don't you ever tire of defending the serial lying buffoon? Never ending job!
 
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He took Putin's word over his own Intel agencies in front of the whole world at the Helsinki Summit. Despite conclusions of his Intel agencies he issued a statement on bin Salman saying, "Maybe he did and maybe he didn't". He took Kim Jong at his word that Kim was unaware of the alleged mistreatment of an American college student who died after being imprisoned. Again, against the conclusions of his own Intel agencies.
Yeah, well we have a serious problem in this country when you have to blame the media for the things you just don't want to see as being true. When you can sit there and watch him say with his own words in front of the world (NOT THE MEDIAS WORDS) but his own words in front of the world he believed Putin and not our intelligence agencies how is that the media? LOL....That's you on camera speaking with your words in front of cameras. This is a very serious problem. People just in denial of facts right in front of their face. This is just crazy!

I used to wonder about Germany and the holocausts and how the propaganda worked so well. Its just people that can't accept what is happening to them even if it is happening in living color right in front of their very own eyes.
 
And like the cheapskate you are, deflection at its finest.
LMAO at my shallow minded simpleton FRIEND!
You deflect EVERY 100% of the time
You HAVE to, as you try to defend the indefensible mentally challenged “shit in his pants” president!
“Come on man”
pffft
 
"He didn't coddle Putin"? Trump took Putin's word over that of his own Intel agencies on election interference in front of the whole world at the the G-7 Summit in Helsinki. You don't consider that coddling? He also refused to impose new Russia sanctions despite law passed b y Congress over election hacking.
Seriously??? putin DID NOT INVADE WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!
Take your head out of your ass, and breathe some fresh air.
Maybe then you’ll realize how embarrassing your comments are!
 
Seriously??? putin DID NOT INVADE WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!
Take your head out of your ass, and breathe some fresh air.
Maybe then you’ll realize how embarrassing your comments are!
"embarrassing"? That statement is FACT witnessed by the whole world. Take your head out of Trump's ass and face reality you delusional lemming! Russia didn't invade Ukraine during Trump's term because he was so pleased to see Trump pursuing goals in line with Moscow's agenda. Putin wanted to undermine the NATO alliance and Trump undermined the NATO alliance. Putin wanted to weaken the E.U. and Trump expressed disdain for the E.U. Putin wanted to weaken the U.S. political system and Trump was aggressive in trying to weaken the U.S. political system. Putin wanted to hurt Ukraine and Trump launched an extortion scheme that threatened Ukraine. Why would the Russian leader get in the way of the progress Trump was already delivering?
 
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"embarrassing"? That statement is FACT witnessed by the whole world. Take your head out of Trump's ass and face reality you delusional lemming! Russia didn't invade Ukraine during Trump's term because he was so pleased to see Trump pursuing goals in line with Moscow's agenda. Putin wanted to undermine the NATO alliance and Trump undermined the NATO alliance. Putin wanted to weaken the E.U. and Trump expressed disdain for the E.U. Putin wanted to weaken the U.S. political system and Trump was aggressive in trying to weaken the U.S. political system. Putin wanted to hurt Ukraine and Trump launched an extortion scheme that threatened Ukraine. Why would the Russian leader get in the way of the progress Trump was already delivering?
Trump Didnt weaken NATO Alliances you ignorant liberal, he wanted EACH COUNTRY to pay their fair share!!
Funny how you try to ignore Bidens total failures.
This country was far better off 24 months ago than now
Putin didnt invade because he was AFAID of Trump, he knows biden wont and didnt do shit.
You truly are an emotional voter
LMAO lil mikey,
 
Seriously??? putin DID NOT INVADE WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!
Take your head out of your ass, and breathe some fresh air.
Maybe then you’ll realize how embarrassing your comments are!
"embarrassing"? That statement is FACT witnessed by the whole world. Take your head out of Trump's ass and face reality you delusional lemming! Russia didn't invade Ukraine during Trump's term because he was so pleased to see Trump pursuing goals in line with Moscow's agenda. Putin wanted to undermine the NATO alliance and Trump undermined the NATO alliance. Putin wanted to weaken the E.U. and Trump expressed disdain for the E.U. Putin wanted to weaken the U.S. political system and Trump was aggressive in trying to weaken the U.S. political system. Putin wanted to hurt Ukraine and Trump launched an extortion scheme that threatened Ukraine. Why would the Russian leader get in the way of the progress Trump was already delivering?
Trump attempted to get the NATO nations to pay their fair share into the NATO alliance. That's not undermining anything. He took a lot of heat from the EU because of it.
 
Trump Didnt weaken NATO Alliances you ignorant liberal, he wanted EACH COUNTRY to pay their fair share!!
Funny how you try to ignore Bidens total failures.
This country was far better off 24 months ago than now
Putin didnt invade because he was AFAID of Trump, he knows biden wont and didnt do shit.
You truly are an emotional voter
LMAO lil mikey,
Biden did everything he could to get Putin to invade. He said we do not want war with Russia. We will protect nato ….wink wink but not Ukraine.They purposely talked publicly about the fighter planes instead of never saying a thing about it and just sending them.
They always tell you they’ve been monitoring things for months. Just like they spent months studying ultra Maga they knew they blew up the economy. And they knew we were training Ukraine troops for years and they saw what archaic military equipment Russia has . Russias only powerful because of there nukes if they didn’t have them nobody would fear their army. They wanted a bogged down war to blame Putin. Democrats are master manipulators they always only focus on divisive issues they never want to solve them, they always try and make people vote on emotional issues . They blame and name call deflect and never take responsibility. They are the party of no personal responsibility. It’s always someone else’s fault. And it’s amazing how many people fall for it . Smh
 
Trump attempted to get the NATO nations to pay their fair share into the NATO alliance. That's not undermining anything. He took a lot of heat from the EU because of it.
Trump long criticized NATO calling it obsolete and discussed withdrawing several times.
 
Trump long criticized NATO calling it obsolete and discussed withdrawing several times.
WRONG AGAIN
What pisses me off about liberals is they ignore reality to justify their preconceived notions
Seriously lil mikey wake the fuk up, take your head out of your ass and take a breath of fresh air reality!
@ Im a small minded emotional liberal fuktard!
Pffft
 
Trump long criticized NATO calling it obsolete and discussed withdrawing several times.
Those were negotiating tactics Trump was using leverage, it’s amazing you guys are so Trump bad . He knew The German army was a joke and that they had all just been using there money for social programs and let us fund not only our defense for Americans but foot the bill for them. Trump increased spending on military and was trying to get them to do the same. Hey guess what TRUMP WAS RIGHT AGAIN.
You need to acknowledge KING MAGA. 😎
 
Those were negotiating tactics Trump was using leverage, it’s amazing you guys are so Trump bad . He knew The German army was a joke and that they had all just been using there money for social programs and let us fund not only our defense for Americans but foot the bill for them. Trump increased spending on military and was trying to get them to do the same. Hey guess what TRUMP WAS RIGHT AGAIN.
You need to acknowledge KING MAGA. 😎
I don't even think you believe that bullshit....LMAO
 
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Trump attempted to get the NATO nations to pay their fair share into the NATO alliance. That's not undermining anything. He took a lot of heat from the EU because of it.
The US will be spending close to $100B this year. How much are our European allies spending on Ukrainian aid and weapons? And no, giving Ukraine 30 year old Russian military crap (like Poland) only when the US agrees to replace it an no charge with out newest and best stuff, does not qualify as giving Ukraine aid.
 
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WRONG AGAIN
What pisses me off about liberals is they ignore reality to justify their preconceived notions
Seriously lil mikey wake the fuk up, take your head out of your ass and take a breath of fresh air reality!
@ Im a small minded emotional liberal fuktard!
Pffft
Trump criticizing NATO, calling it obsolete and discussing withdrawal several times is a FACT Ahole. You're a delusional, hot-headed POS! "Trump wins in a landslide". You did provide me with that classic, so thanks for that.
 
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Those were negotiating tactics Trump was using leverage, it’s amazing you guys are so Trump bad . He knew The German army was a joke and that they had all just been using there money for social programs and let us fund not only our defense for Americans but foot the bill for them. Trump increased spending on military and was trying to get them to do the same. Hey guess what TRUMP WAS RIGHT AGAIN.
You need to acknowledge KING MAGA. 😎
You need to acknowledge that Trump is a twice-impeached serial lying POS under too many corruption investigations to keep tract. From charges of trying to overturn the election to election interference charges in Georgia, he'll need to make good use of those "negotiating tactics"!
 
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Trump criticizing NATO, calling it obsolete and discussing withdrawal several times is a FACT Ahole. You're a delusional, hot-headed POS! "Trump wins in a landslide". You did provide me with that classic, so thanks for that.
Typical liberal, take comments out of context to fit your emotional preconceived thoughts.
LMAO @ YOU for being proud you voted for a senile old puppet.
Pfft
 
Europe has been ripping us off every since we bailed their ass’s out in WW 2
We are the only country on history who defeated an enemy ( Germany) and then proceeded to enrich that country at our expense! We funded their Auto business as they flooded the USA with Benz ‘s and Bemmers, and stiffed us on Defense spending
Fock the Germans and French. Losers , cheats and skinflints. Pay your fair share
Trump was at least honest . He called these folks out .
It was needed
He pressured them
Liberals can’t understand these simple tactics
Are they stupid?
 
Some people need to read up on what NATO actually is AND how it was actually created. Learn the players. Understand Russia's role. Why they would fight against this kind of alliance. I am trying so very hard to not be adversarial but it is clear that some of you don't have a clue what it is or what you are even discussing. It is not a for profit organization. So you would have to be "stupid" to think it is when it is NOT. First learn its purpose and then come here and comment on it. Learn what type of organization it is. Get the history down. Understand please. NATO is a deterrent. Research the 12 founding members and how that came to be or why that came to be.
 
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The US will be spending close to $100B this year. How much are our European allies spending on Ukrainian aid and weapons? And no, giving Ukraine 30 year old Russian military crap (like Poland) only when the US agrees to replace it an no charge with out newest and best stuff, does not qualify as giving Ukraine aid.
Say that to those dead Russians killed with those "30 year old Russian military crap". You are getting more and more senile.
 
Say that to those dead Russians killed with those "30 year old Russian military crap". You are getting more and more senile.
cems,
If the 30 year old Russian crap is so great, why are we sending Ukraine $20B of new US equipment? And if you are wondering why I wrote $20B rather than $40B, it is because if Ukraine is lucky, half the money will result in weapons. Money will be skimmed off the top for campaign contributions, bribes, and pet projects that have nothing to do with Ukraine defending itself. Guarantee significant portion of the money will find its way into CRT, abortions and transgender causes

And still waiting for you to tell me how much $$$ Germany, France, Belgium, Britain, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, etc. are contributing to Ukraine's defense?
 
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cems,
If the 30 year old Russian crap is so great, why are we sending Ukraine $20B of new US equipment? And if you are wondering why I wrote $20B rather than $40B, it is because if Ukraine is lucky, half the money will result in weapons. Money will be skimmed off the top for campaign contributions, bribes, and pet projects that have nothing to do with Ukraine defending itself. Guarantee significant portion of the money will find its way into CRT, abortions and transgender causes

And still waiting for you to tell me how much $$$ Germany, France, Belgium, Britain, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, etc. are contributing to Ukraine's defense?
Half the money is earmarked for weapons, that’s in the plan
The rest is for bureaucratic nonsense , which means bribes , skims , waste, needless oversight etc
Meanwhile nobody is questioning the need for NATO , it’s a matter of being played for a sucker
France and Germany have played us for suckers for years . Great Britain a tad less .
The whole European Union was based on the premise of screwing the USA , while shouting about democracy.
China played us for suckers , still are. They just bribe Hunter and the other Biden bro , and we let them cheat us
Meanwhile we farmed out all our chip production to a small island ( Taiwan) that will be taken over by China and we won’t be able to do a damn thing to stop them
They have an army 5 times our size.
 
cems,
If the 30 year old Russian crap is so great, why are we sending Ukraine $20B of new US equipment? And if you are wondering why I wrote $20B rather than $40B, it is because if Ukraine is lucky, half the money will result in weapons. Money will be skimmed off the top for campaign contributions, bribes, and pet projects that have nothing to do with Ukraine defending itself. Guarantee significant portion of the money will find its way into CRT, abortions and transgender causes

And still waiting for you to tell me how much $$$ Germany, France, Belgium, Britain, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, etc. are contributing to Ukraine's defense?
I don't know the amount those countries have contributed but I'm certain you do.
You obviously missed my point. You downplayed those 30 year old Russian weapons even though they have been used to push the shzt from those Russians. Ukraine is beating that Russian azz to the displeasure of Republicans.
 
We don't want fascist dictators invading democratic countries and Republicans just cant wrap their heads around this democratic ideal. It's a very simple one. It isn't about money. American tax payers are okay with the money going to this cause which is why our representatives in congress are okay with this. It has been a long standing US policy....and any president that undermines it will see themselves on the outside looking in. The US is NEVER going to support dictatorship by walking around saying it is none of our business. That's never been how we roll and never will be....and if you get in office and try to change that you will be voted out. Please get that through your heads.

Clearly far right Republicans have sided with Vladimar Putin but you put your money on a loser. This very ideal of fascism is for losers. Any time you see it you will see that taken down. It doesn't work and won't work. You guys can be impressed with it and call it strong or whatever but the fact of the matter is it is very weak. Trump was impressed with it and look where he ended up.
 
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