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Duke Johnson took a knee during the National Anthem

Look man, at the beginning of the war-Lincoln wanted to round up all Slaves & send them back, the South fought against it. The main thing Lincoln wanted at the beginning of the war had nothing to do with Slavery, it was to have 1 Union so-they gonna take him down too?
Literally the first time I've ever heard that and I'm a bit of a history nerd.
 
Hell man, 1 of the most outspoken athletes of all time in Charles Barkley who comes from Alabama said"Not 1 day of his life has he even thought of those stupid statues and that's the case for 95% too. The kids out there ripping them down can't even tell you who they are, what they done & really probably wouldn't know it was a Confederate soldier if it didn't say it on it. This was just an excuse for the left to take this bs to the limit but, be careful what you wish for!
 
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A much bigger issue is what going on in Chicago every day, where is the knee, athletes or anything for that? These toddlers that are being killed, where the fvck is this the rage for this?
Black on Black is real and real sad. That's a totally different subject. Blacks people don't get a pass. Preach about this in my music. Those people if caught get justices service. While those that kill innocent people get to go home. Thats not justices.
 
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Lol at a bunch of millionaires dissing the country that gave them such an opportunity. They can all shove it Duke included. No wonder the NFL is going downhill in ratings.
These "millionaires" are doing this precisely because no one cares or has ever really cared about what a bunch of poor dudes in Overtown have to say.

Guy looks around and sees what he believes is injustice. Guy has been blessed with a spotlight and an audience. He has two choices: do nothing or use his spotlight somehow to bring attention to the injustice he sees.

Duke didn't pick up a torch and march on the state house. He quietly and peacefully took a knee to get attention. People are talking, and no one got hurt or even mildly inconvenienced.
 
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See this is exactly the problem... if you can't come up with some type of solution then don't bitch. Hate is taught. It's generational. I've done my part as a parent now I challenge everyone else to do theirs.
Ok get rid of the hate groups everything solved right? Wrong the problem is the biggest hate groups are the ones who you can't identify, the ones in the suits, the ones who sit in high position and make important decisions that impact this country. Those idiots racist so called extremist who are out marching are the harmless ones. The real hate groups are the ones you can't see and identify... so it's not that simple
 
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Most black people don't care, and it's because of the history in this country. There's a disconnect and it's because it's not your race, so it doesn't affect you. You can't relate. There's a bunch storys and pictures, and documentaries about blacks in America. Do your homework with passion then get back at me. America dark side is like a total eclipses. The KKK has burn churches and homes of black people and hung black people. That's like ISIS killing all those people and now they're just a group that protesting. No! They shouldn't even exist!
The hell it doesn't doesn't affect me... I have watched 5 Dallas cops get murdered on national tv. I where that uniform every day like they do and have for 20 years. I grew up in a poor neighborhood and color of skin was never a second thought to me but just because I'm not black doesn't mean it doesn't affect me. Not one person alive today in the USA was ever a slave nor is there one white slave owner alive still yet we carry this sh#t on like a battle flag. Why? If you want to talk about racist targeting people then ok let's go, Im all on board but also be prepared to talk about both sides and not just one.

Here's the truth! This isn't about slavery because if it were it would easy to fix. It's about segregating America and division. Has history not taught us anything? Yet here we go again in the same vicious circles.
 
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Ok get rid of the hate groups everything solved right? Wrong the problem is the biggest hate groups are the ones who you can't identify, the ones in the suits, the ones who sit in high position and make important decisions that impact this country. Those idiots racist so called extremist who are out marching are the harmless ones. The real hate groups are the ones you can't see and identify... so it's not that simple
Go on I'm listening... if you can't see them or identify them then how do you know they exist? Because someone told you to? I'm interested in hearing more about this ookie.
 
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Hell man, 1 of the most outspoken athletes of all time in Charles Barkley who comes from Alabama said"Not 1 day of his life has he even thought of those stupid statues and that's the case for 95% too. The kids out there ripping them down can't even tell you who they are, what they done & really probably wouldn't know it was a Confederate soldier if it didn't say it on it. This was just an excuse for the left to take this bs to the limit but, be careful what you wish for!
History is a lie! And we will never know the real truth, but people by the real issue! Innocent people dying!!!! That confederate flag what the KKK and other hate group Represent. That kid that killed those innocent black people in that church.....had a damn confederate flag in the background of a picture. Forget all those damn flags.
 
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He took a knee to pray.

Stop making taking a knee into something that it is not. It is not a disrespect to service men and women who gave some or all for our country. These aren't communist or anti-americans, these are people who want a better America for all so they peacefully protest.

To get mad at someone who wants a better America for all is actually Anti-american. Instead of getting so worked up and waste energy why not listen and positively engage in solutions.

This is similar to a parent who ignore all the signs that their kids are experiencing serious problems when their kids randomly start acting different. Just like a parent needs to ask his child what is the real problem.

The real problem is not taking a knee during the National Anthem. The real problem is you don't care enough to do something about it so you complain about the actions and ignore engaging in the root of the problem.
 
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The hell it doesn't doesn't affect me... I have watched 5 Dallas cops get murdered on national tv. I where that uniform every day like they do and have for 20 years. I grew up in a poor neighborhood and color of skin was never a second thought to me but just because I'm not black doesn't mean it doesn't affect me. Not one person alive today in the USA was ever a slave nor is there one white slave owner alive still yet we carry this sh#t on like a battle flag. Why? If you want to talk about racist targeting people then ok let's go, Im all on board but also be prepared to talk about both sides and not just one.

Here's the truth! This isn't about slavery because if it were it would easy to fix. It's about segregating America and division. Has history not taught us anything? Yet here we go again in the same vicious circles.
This is your response to my post? Wow
 
Go on I'm listening... if you can't see them or identify them then how do you know they exist? Because someone told you to? I'm interested in hearing more about this ookie.
Let me ask you a question you claim to have grown up in a poor neighborhood which I do not know the demographics of it but you seem to have this notion that there are any issues with Law enforcement and the black community. All of the stuff is made up and all of the stuff is in people's heads and not about race which is bullshit. You can't get rid of all the racist groups you want but at the end of the day the biggest racist are in our governments, law-enforcement whether you want to admit to it or not this country has bigger issues than a bunch of bigots marching about Confederacy
 
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History is a lie! And we will never know the real truth, but people by the real issue! Innocent people dying!!!! That confederate flag what the KKK and other hate group Represent. That kid that killed those innocent black people in that church.....had a damn confederate flag in the background of a picture. Forget all those damn flags.
Don't disagree... another point I disagree with Caneiacx5 on is why in the hell would Lincoln be on the other side, the go to war against his own side only to be murdered by his own side? Makes no sense
 
Only time Cleveland will take a knee this year.

Saw that on the main board and chuckled. Was hoping it wasn't Duke but am not surprised.

I spent a total of 12 years of my life in the Navy. I retired as a Lt. Commander, cut short from an injury sustained in peacetime. Johnson, in my opinion, disgraced every person who ever served in the Armed Forces. What is his beef? Is it with the cops? Is it with the country that provided him with the opportunity to make millions of dollars? What is his grievance? Does anyone know? Does he? If he knows why he took a knee, why doesn't he articulate it? Kaeipernick started this after he married a Muslim woman; what happened to Johnson?
 
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Let me ask you a question you claim to have grown up in a poor neighborhood which I do not know the demographics of it but you seem to have this notion that there are any issues with Law enforcement and the black community. All of the stuff is made up and all of the stuff is in people's heads and not about race which is bullshit. You can't get rid of all the racist groups you want but at the end of the day the biggest racist are in our governments, law-enforcement whether you want to admit to it or not this country has bigger issues than a bunch of bigots marching about Confederacy
No i didn't allude to any of that. I worked in the housing projects at the age of 21 and other than about a foot chase a night, never did I ever have to beat anyone or shoot anyone. As a matter of fact I grew up with a few of the people who lived there. I played football with a couple of them. Had it not been for drugs they would still be friends of mine.

You talk about change. Why don't we look at local govt and what are they doing to help? These are the people, as in Overtown, who were elected to help. The city councilmen, the mayors. They're who control the police department. If the police department is out of control then you use the tools given to you. It starts at the local level if you want to affect change.
 
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Don't disagree... another point I disagree with Caneiacx5 on is why in the hell would Lincoln be on the other side, the go to war against his own side only to be murdered by his own side? Makes no sense

can't help it if you don't comprehend it. This is 1 subject I was schooled in my whole life as my Dad has a Cival War Museum{CROOKED CREEK CIVAL WAR MUSEUM} & before the war, this was 1 proposal he gave to the South & of course the South fought against it.

Have you never seen that bumper sticker-we should have picked our own damn cotton" well, that's where it comes from? I was advanced in this subject from all my teachers in grade & High School & as I said"Go do some reading and you'll get some straightening. Then it may or may not make sense to ya-I COULD GIVE 2 SHITS IF IT DOES OR NOT TO TELL THE TRUTH. But what matters is-I KNOW
 
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The same country that treated blacks like third class citizens after they returned from world war II and the Vietnam war the same country that told people of color that they had to ride in the back of the bus.

Dumb post. That was in the past and since then, we elected a Black President, who I voted for. If you had half a brain, you woud know that many whites fought and died for the black cause as well as for women who were treated like second class citizens. Its called evolution. Our country is only 241 years old; we started with slavery that was brought here by the Dutch and in a relatively short span of time, we have changed for the better and we will continue to grow in a humane way. If you are going to bitch about the past, then you must give credit for the growth of our spirit and justice as well.
 
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This is your response to my post? Wow
The point was you don't take the time to hear the other side and where as your concerns have valid points there's a way to address those. You act as if no white person ever has ever stood up for these injustices but it starts at the community level.
 
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Because that narrative is partially true. Lincoln wanted to unify the nation but you bet your ass slavery had 100% to do with his decision making. It's like saying civil rights had nothing to do with JFK, LBJ and Nixon...lol
I don't disagree with you. Of course it did but it doesn't change the fact that hundreds of thousands of people took a stand, left their families fatherless to make a difference. This is something that should be celebrated.
 
Dumb post. That was in the past and since then, we elected a Black President, who I voted for. If you had half a brain, you woud know that many whites fought and died for the black cause as well as for women who were treated like second class citizens. Its called evolution. Our country is only 241 years old; we started with slavery that was brought here by the Dutch and in a relatively short span of time, we have changed for the better and we will continue to grow in a humane way. If you are going to bitch about the past, then you must give credit for the growth of our spirit and justice as well.
Not so dumb my man, those dudes are still alive. Tell them it's dumb.
 
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No i didn't allude to any of that. I worked in the housing projects at the age of 21 and other than about a foot chase a night, never did I ever have to beat anyone or shoot anyone. As a matter of fact I grew up with a few of the people who lived there. I played football with a couple of them. Had it not been for drugs they would still be friends of mine.

You talk about change. Why don't we look at local govt and what are they doing to help? These are the people, as in Overtown, who were elected to help. The city councilmen, the mayors. They're who control the police department. If the police department is out of control then you use the tools given to you. It starts at the local level if you want to affect change.
Who's says there aren't people doing those things and more? Duke Johnson and many other athletes going to these communities and do great things but then they go back to there reality and knowing what those people go through on the regular basis because they where once there before in there life probably still have friends and family there. So when you see them protesting ( kneeling ) speaking out or whatever they choose to do it's there way of letting those people know and especially those kids that they understand and just because I play football doesn't mean I don't stand with you when it comes to issues in our community. Some may not understand because they never been that side of the fight so I get their ignorance.
 
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Who's says there aren't people doing those things and more? Duke Johnson and many other athletes going to these communities and do great things but then they go back to there reality and knowing what those people go through on the regular basis because they where once there before in there life probably still have friends and family there. So when you see them protesting ( kneeling ) speaking out or whatever they choose to do it's there way of letting those people know and especially those kids that they understand and just because I play football doesn't mean I don't stand with you when it comes to issues in our community. Some may not understand because they never been that side of the fight so I get their ignorance.
Would you rather sympathize with someone or would you rather make a change for everyone? Sympathizing and kneeling accomplishes nothing. Just being honest. If you want to affect change at that level then get in the politics or support someone in politics who will.
 
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He is a grown man. And entitled to his opinion, but actions have consequences and his actions
Are offensive to me....

He is dead to me...
 
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Would you rather sympathize with someone or would you rather make a change for everyone? Sympathizing and kneeling accomplishes nothing. Just being honest. If you want to affect change at that level then get in the politics or support someone in politics who will.
Fact is we all have different experiences in this country therefore we have different views. That flag does it mean the same thing that he may mean to you. At the end of the day it's not about the flag and mind you those same racist groups we're carrying that flag During their protest. Fact of the matter is Martin Luther King, Malcolm X and many other civil rights leaders we're not applied by this country or the many people of it For their protests same as with Kaepernick and Duke Johnson in many other athletes today people may not understand why they do this or whatever but I'm pretty sure 10,15, 20 from years now just just like the protest from the athletes in the 1960s Olympics many Americans that it was disrespectful but given the time and circumstances that were going on during that time in the country they definitely get it and I'm certainly people will understand years later
 
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Fact is we all have different experiences in this country therefore we have different views. That flag does it mean the same thing that he may mean to you. At the end of the day it's not about the flag and mind you those same racist groups we're carrying that flag During their protest. Fact of the matter is Martin Luther King, Malcolm X and many other civil rights leaders we're not applied by this country or the many people of it For their protests same as with Kaepernick and Duke Johnson in many other athletes today people may not understand why they do this or whatever but I'm pretty sure 10,15, 20 from years now just just like the protest from the athletes in the 1960s Olympics many Americans that it was disrespectful but given the time and circumstances that were going on during that time in the country they definitely get it and I'm certainly people will understand years later
I'll tell you why... those dumbass nazi's (actual nazi's by the way) do not share American values nor freedom. They're of the same suppressive mindset of the actual Nazi's who were socialist & communists. They fought against us in WW2 in an attempt to annihilate equality and freedom. Those dumbasses flying that flag dont represent that flag nor have they ever. They weren't even in existence when the civil war took place. They're ignorant. So it's just as ignorant to use that symbol of freedom and equality as a crutch in that instance.

I'd get into medias use of the term alt right and alt left but that's another topic for discussion
 
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How many unarmed white people are killed by police every year? Why isn't that an issue? It doesn't fit the "racist cops" narrative.

That's a question I'd like answered, how many are?? And if there're any at all, then whites should be protesting. It's their right. And if you are fortunate enough to find ANY in the past 5 years, I'd bet it won't come close to that of BM's that have been unjustly killed in the same time span.

Unarmed whites get tasered, not shot.

It appears that police officers can simply say "I was in fear for my life", and they get acquitted for killing unarmed BMs, in this country. Well that put a segment of our population in grave danger, and if I'm part of that segment, I have reason to protest, in any lawful way I deem necessary.
 
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That's a question I'd like answered, how many are?? And if there're any at all, then whites should be protesting. It's their right. And if you are fortunate enough to find ANY in the past 5 years, I'd bet it won't come close to that of BM's that have been unjustly killed in the same time span.

Unarmed whites get tasered, not shot.
This^^^^^
 
He is a grown man. And entitled to his opinion, but actions have consequences and his actions
Are offensive to me....

He is dead to me...
He is dead to you because he took a knee during the anthem?? Its disgusting that some of you don't give a damn at all what they are protesting. They feel that they don't get the same rights as whites in this country and all you give a damn about is the flag?? I hope every black player in every sport turns their back during the anthem just to trigger sensitive snow flakes like you?
 
That's a question I'd like answered, how many are?? And if there're any at all, then whites should be protesting. It's their right. And if you are fortunate enough to find ANY in the past 5 years, I'd bet it won't come close to that of BM's that have been unjustly killed in the same time span.

Unarmed whites get tasered, not shot.

It appears that police officers can simply say "I was in fear for my life", and they get acquitted for killing unarmed BMs, in this country. Well that put a segment of our population in grave danger, and if I'm part of that segment, I have reason to protest, in any lawful way I dream necessary.

There are a lot more than just one. See this fairly written article from the Washington Post. Also, fairly recently was that white woman in her pajamas that had called the police and was shot and killed approaching the car.

Therefore, your statement that "unarmed whites get tasered, not shot" is 100% factually incorrect.
 
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At this point, EVERYONE knows what they are suggesting by this gesture. They are not protesting against America or the NFL. They are not opposed to civil liberties or the military, or calling out America as not worthy. They are simply pleading with others to recognize serious racial injustices going on in our country. That is why so many white players are starting to show support by putting hands on their brothers as they do this. Its NOT a protest against America or the NFL. Its a message, of lets recognize what deep problems we have and come together to do something about it for the positive, collectively! Same as this gesture in my eyes...

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Doesn't matter what they are protesting they are doing it on their employers dime... that's the NFLs uniform field sponsors tv time and money they are misusing

If they want to represent a sponsor they need the nfls ok to do it in the uniform it's the same thing whether u like it or not they are misreuthe brand of the NFL and should be fined for it.... it's actually stealing... they didn't pay for the tv time to make a statement... if Gatorade wanted to place there products or make a statement they would have to pay for the tv time .... they should do the same

And it's true they have the right to free speech but not at work ... if you disagree try telling the owner of your business to f@ck himself and see what happens to you.... they are doing it wrong place wrong time... if they are so dedicated to equality they should spend their own money for tv time and get their complete message out
 
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A bunch of shitty football players looking for attention.
GTFOH Did you call Duke a shytty football player when he played at the U? Better yet, if a bunch of Hurricane starters decided to take a knee this year at some point, will you call them shytty football players?
 
Hell man, 1 of the most outspoken athletes of all time in Charles Barkley who comes from Alabama said"Not 1 day of his life has he even thought of those stupid statues and that's the case for 95% too. The kids out there ripping them down can't even tell you who they are, what they done & really probably wouldn't know it was a Confederate soldier if it didn't say it on it. This was just an excuse for the left to take this bs to the limit but, be careful what you wish for!
So you post this as if Charles Barkley is an expert on the subject and speaks on behalf of all African Americans.

It is his opinion. He is entitled to that opinion. So what? If i told you Gen Lee specifically said don't give him or anyone else any statues or memorials does that mean anything to you? He said move on...they lost. It's over and don't erect statues.
 
Agree with you 1000 %
It is not only blatant disrespect it is the fact they are using there platform all the wrong reasons .........i wonder how many players would love to speak o
You guys do realize Duke has a youth football league this being the third year in a row, right?
Yes I do and I commend him for that he is a great leader in his community and a good person........however it does not chance my stance on what he is doing regarding his stance to the Anthem and our flag........platform is wrong and they are wrong , if he was my employee he may not be working for me very long.......
 
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Erecting memorials glorifying civil war losers is much more disrespectful than some football player taking a knee during the Anthem....at least to me.
 
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It's disheartening to see the desensitization of some Americans who simply close their eyes, ears & turn off their capacity for empathy towards the real cause or message of these protest because of some perception that these men & women are disrespecting a nation, flag, or anthem...

Many of you say Sports has no place for politics but a black man was not even allowed to share a football (Kenny Washington -1946), baseball field (Jackie Robinson - 1947) or basketball court (Earl Lloyd - 1950) with a white man & even if a owner thought that blacks could help his team, for fear of backlash he would opt not to... seems politically driven to me...

Many of you say the Anthem means the world to you & it may... however, this anthem may mean something totally different to someone else who doesn't have the same ancestral past as you... the third Stanza of the "Original" Anthem written by Francis Scott Key in 1814 that was taken out clearly states, "No refuge for the hireling or the Slave..." Clearly, this anthem wasn't written with blacks in a positive light or as equals... so how could you expect black people to have that same affinity you have for an anthem that wasn't written for them?

I'm not even going to get into the World Wars & how the black veterans were treated coming back after fighting for country whose sees them as only 3/5ths of a man & still had no rights after coming back

So please stop It with this, "get over it.." attitude & replace it with more empathy.... protest is supposed to make people feel uncomfortable especially those who are not affected... stop just looking at just the protest but empathize with the message that they are trying to bring the table... at the very least try....
 
Maybe I should've taken a knee instead of deploying to Iraq.

You deployed to Iraq to serve your country or to return and use it as leverage against those who would support individual's rights under the the Constitution of the United States. I sincerely thank you for your service however don't get it twisted, it doesn't make you morally superior.
 
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Literally the first time I've ever heard that and I'm a bit of a history nerd.
probably b/c its the biggest load of rubbish ever written. Thats information gleaned from the depths of the internet; I mean there being no record of Lincoln's actual thoughts and all; no speeches, no notes, not text, no contemporary journalism, no first hand accounts; so of course the depths of the internet is what we should rely on....that and Wikipeida.
 
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