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Obama begins push for new National Retirement System

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A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration's effort to nationalize the nation's pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRA's and 401k plans, NSC is warning.

The hearing, held in the Labor Department's main auditorium, was monitored by NSC staff and featured a line up of left-wing activists including one representative of the AFL-CIO who advocated for more government regulation over private retirement accounts and even the establishment of government-sponsored annuities that would take the place of 401k plans.

"This hearing was set up to explore why Americans are not saving as much for their retirement as they could," explains National Seniors Council National Director Robert Crone, "However, it is clear that this is the first step towards a government takeover. It feels just like the beginning of the debate over health care and we all know how that ended up."

A representative of the liberal Pension Rights Center, Rebecca Davis, testified that the government needs to get involved because 401k plans and IRAs are unfair to poor people. She demanded the Obama administration set up a "government-sponsored program administered by the PBGC (the governments' Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation)." She proclaimed that even "private annuities are problematic."

Such "reforms" would effectively end private retirement accounts in America, Crone warns. "These people want the government to require that ultimately all Americans buy these government annuities instead of saving or investing on their own. The Government could then take these trillions of dollars and redistribute it through this new national retirement system."

Deputy Treasury Secretary J. Mark Iwry, who presided over the hearing, is a long-time critic of 401k plans because he believes they benefit the rich. He also appears to be one of the Administration's point man on this issue.

"This whole issue is moving forward very quickly," warns Crone. "Already there is a bill requiring all businesses to automatically enroll their employees in IRA plans in which part of every employee's paycheck would be automatically deducted and deposited into this account. If this passes, the government will be just one step away from being able to confiscate all these retirement accounts."

NSC has taken the lead in warning the nation about this new government onslaught and is plotting ways to stop it.

"This effort ultimately is designed to grab the retirement nest eggs of America's senior citizens. This new government annuity scheme, even if it is at first optional, will turn into a giant effort to redistribute the wealth of America's older citizens," explains Crone. "This scheme mirrors what I expect the President will try to do with Social Security. He wants to turn that program into a welfare program, too."NSC will likely unveil a new grassroots campaign effort later this year or early in January to coincide with the seating of the new Congress.
 
This may get jerked quick and i posted it on The Lounge as well just in case but here it is and they were talking about it on Dave Ramsey National finance show just 20 minutes ago. Here it is, read it and weep or rejoice depending on your personal preparedness.


A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration's effort to nationalize the nation's pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRA's and 401k plans, NSC is warning.


The hearing, held in the Labor Department's main auditorium, was monitored by NSC staff and featured a line up of left-wing activists including one representative of the AFL-CIO who advocated for more government regulation over private retirement accounts and even the establishment of government-sponsored annuities that would take the place of 401k plans.


"This hearing was set up to explore why Americans are not saving as much for their retirement as they could," explains National Seniors Council National Director Robert Crone, "However, it is clear that this is the first step towards a government takeover. It feels just like the beginning of the debate over health care and we all know how that ended up."


A representative of the liberal Pension Rights Center, Rebecca Davis, testified that the government needs to get involved because 401k plans and IRAs are unfair to poor people. She demanded the Obama administration set up a "government-sponsored program administered by the PBGC (the governments' Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation)." She proclaimed that even "private annuities are problematic."


Such "reforms" would effectively end private retirement accounts in America, Crone warns. "These people want the government to require that ultimately all Americans buy these government annuities instead of saving or investing on their own. The Government could then take these trillions of dollars and redistribute it through this new national retirement system."


Deputy Treasury Secretary J. Mark Iwry, who presided over the hearing, is a long-time critic of 401k plans because he believes they benefit the rich. He also appears to be one of the Administration's point man on this issue.


"This whole issue is moving forward very quickly," warns Crone. "Already there is a bill requiring all businesses to automatically enroll their employees in IRA plans in which part of every employee's paycheck would be automatically deducted and deposited into this account. If this passes, the government will be just one step away from being able to confiscate all these retirement accounts."


NSC has taken the lead in warning the nation about this new government onslaught and is plotting ways to stop it.


"This effort ultimately is designed to grab the retirement nest eggs of America's senior citizens. This new government annuity scheme, even if it is at first optional, will turn into a giant effort to redistribute the wealth of America's older citizens," explains Crone. "This scheme mirrors what I expect the President will try to do with Social Security. He wants to turn that program into a welfare program, too."NSC will likely unveil a new grassroots campaign effort later this year or early in January to coincide with the seating of the new Congress.
This post was edited on 11/27 5:24 PM by BAMA CANE.

Bye Bye 401K and IRA's
 
Fox News could not have written that any better.
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This post was edited on 11/27 3:38 PM by Canes5nc
 
Its very interesting seeing where this post come from and the good old boys who jumped in on it. Who's the real clowns?
 
I have never hated anyone so much in my life than that communist in the White House!!
 
Where it came from? as in Alabama? Well i can tell you as a 3rd generation Floridian, the clowns are the ones that re-elected this man and one day you too will see the error in this. You must not have a 401k.
 
They're all so blind. Every one that voted for that clown will come to realize what a catastrophic mistake it was.
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I have never hated anyone so much in my life than this communist in the White House!!
 
He is on very thin ice with a large part of the country. Any attempt to steal the earnings after taxes of law abiding americans could result in his violent overthrow Hopefully he has enough sense not to push his thievery that far This isnt argentina or Venezuela.There are alot of people that still believe in liberty and no tin horn Marxist is going to succeed doing it.
 
BAMA CANE Keep it going ! I am not giving one Dollar to any of those Bastards that have put this country 16 Trillion $$ in debt and 86 Trillion $ of unfunded liabilities in the future including the communist in the White House !! God Bless America!
 
No worries Bama, that's how the left rolls. Call them out for policies that clearly are contrary to what this country was founded on and you're automatically a bigot, ignorant, backwoods, inbred or a hayseed. I am a minority from California living in Nashville and I can tell you I was called racist and a hick for my public criticism of Obama by more than one of my peers. The truth will come to light soon.
 
He won because he got 93% of the Black American vote and 67% of the Hispanic vote in the country, most of which live in urban areas of major cities. Unless, the Republican party can woo this group of voters to lessen this great disparity, we will never see a Republican president again in our lifetimes.....
 
Originally posted by Clobi:

I have never hated anyone so much in my life than that communist in the White House!!
You aint kidding. I wish really bad things on this communist pig.
 
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Originally posted by CANE635:
Is not investing in a 401K a "cultural" thing.....
Beware talk of the "process!"



On a related note, I already miss football.
 
You're the same assholes who voted for that ignorant illiterate bitch George w bush. All he did was destroy the economy, get the country involved in TWO bullshit wars, STEAL TWO election!!!!You want to know why the country is in such a mess, one fxckin word BUSH!!!! You dumbasses sit there and complain about PRESIDENT OBAMA, but you never talk about that evil, lying pos bush. Have you found the weapons of mass destruction yet?? Thousands of young Americans killed for fxckin NOTHING!!! And you damn geniuses voted for him!!! REAL INTELLIGENT!!! The bottom line is president OBAMA IS YOUR COMMANDER AND CHIEF!!!! SO SUCK ON IT BOYS!!!
 
Every year, 50,000 Latins reach the age of majority in the United States. In four years, 200,000 Latins will have the ability to impact the Presidential race. The demographics in this country continue to shift, and unless the Republican Party retreats from its traditional far right social views (ranging from abortion to stem cell research to gay marriage to immigration), the Democrats will continue to put candidate after candidate after candidate into the White House...

The burden is on the Republicans to alter their platform to conform with the times- this is 2012, not 1962...
 
I know I'm just wasting my breath here and will get slammed by all of you sour grapes right wingnuts, conspiracy fanatics, and religious idealoges, but, any of you sore losers who believe we live in a communist state, should please find somewhere else to live.

I will tell you though, you will have a real problem finding a place to move.? yea right, Europe?, (all of them are communist, right?) Canada? more "socialist" South America? Yea right.


Listen, you guys have obviously not paid any attention to the pundits who explain that you lost the election, (oh yea, you got 47% of the vote) because most of you live in this right wing bubble that repeats the same BS over and over again.

"Obama is going to take our guns" (not one piece of anti-gun legislation if 4 years, but it sure helped gun sales)

"Obama Care is a government run socialist, communist plot - (Funny, most all of the insurance will be handled by those Death Panel Insurance companies, you know, the ones who decide whether or not to pay for your operation cancer treatment based on the cost to the company and try to exclude you because you filled out a form incorrectly 10 years ago)

There is absolutely no plan on the table by the Administration or by the Communist Senate to have the Govt. take over your 401K, but lets not obscure things with the facts.

That said. I really appreciate the fact that the right wingers are so concerned about 401Ks stability they want to dismantle the oversight of financial institutions that Obama helped pass that requires financial institutions to stop screwing us. There is no acceptable law on the right that curtails the power and greed of the Corporate world. The shrinking of the middle class and the HUGE gains made by the ultra wealthy in our country are despicable, but you could care less.

Again, I don't expect this post to sway, or make any of you Fox Mind Controlled, right wingers to think twice, but I just figured I had some spare time to waste posting an alternate universe. Please stay in your bubble, and their will be no chance of an R ever getting elected President again. 3...2...1...
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Alaskan Cane.
 
Alaska Cane, thanks for exploding the myth that everyone in Alaska has been Palinized. Anyone that believes she's rational and intelligent thinks with their small head. Can she see your 401K from Alaska?
 
Maybe this will help "dumb" this down for those that need it.

Roosevelt started the Social Security Retirement Program. It was to be in a trust fund and NEVER touched for other uses.

The Government runs that program also. They STOLE the money we paid each pay period for OUR retirement and used it for anything they wanted. Gave the system an IOU for what they took.

Do you think they will repay the IOU's? Hell no! This is the same thing, just a different name. Give's them more money to play with.

Just a SIMPLE example of what has happened to the last Government Retirement program.
 
Originally posted by EZ Mone:
Maybe this will help "dumb" this down for those that need it.

Roosevelt started the Social Security Retirement Program. It was to be in a trust fund and NEVER touched for other uses.

The Government runs that program also. They STOLE the money we paid each pay period for OUR retirement and used it for anything they wanted. Gave the system an IOU for what they took.

Do you think they will repay the IOU's? Hell no! This is the same thing, just a different name. Give's them more money to play with.

Just a SIMPLE example of what has happened to the last Government Retirement program.

this
 
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Sammy,
Even with those large numbers Republicans will over come, SIMPLY BECUASE GOVT CANT AND SHOULDNT RUN INDIVIDUAL LIVES

As for the clown that made fun of 401K, you must be 22 otherwise you wouldnt post such a dumb ass thoughts
 
National Seniors Council National Director Robert Crone, "However, it is clear that this is the first step towards a government takeover."

Things are about to hit the fan and people are to blind to see it.
 
No Longer the Majority, therefore No Longer Silent! I'm Nobama for life
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"He won because he got 93% of the Black American vote and 67% of the Hispanic vote in the country, most of which live in urban areas of major cities. Unless, the Republican party can woo this group of voters to lessen this great disparity, we will never see a Republican president again in our lifetimes....."

Sammy,
I think Republicans are begining to see some Blacks join the conservative movement. 5% fewer blacks voted for Obama this time than did the last. My Dad before he died in March was campaigning for a black lady who was running for office as a Republican in Clayton County Ga. Jonesboro is the town where my Mom and Dad live. She lost. Interesting enought the Republician party there backed another black man running as a Democrat against the incumbent sheriff who was a crook. I think we are gaining some Blacks, minorities to the Conservative side. After all, aren't we all conservative when it comes to someone else spending our money?
 
Except in the case of sex in the privacy of ones home, civil marriage, and a woman's control and rights over her own body. Oh yea, and as long as were keeping Govt out of individual lives, lets bring back the individual right of any business man to discriminate against anyone including because of the color of their skin.
Originally posted by majus12:
Sammy,
Even with those large numbers Republicans will over come, SIMPLY BECUASE GOVT CANT AND SHOULDNT RUN INDIVIDUAL LIVES[/B]

As for the clown that made fun of 401K, you must be 22 otherwise you wouldnt post such a dumb ass thoughts
 
When will Obama propose to change the name of this country from . The United States of America to the Socialist States of America?
 
See here's the break down, Obama feels the fed govt should run everything and set rules and regulations for everything. I disagree and feel its up to the individual states to set their own rules & regulations. The federal govt has ZERO business in our everyday life's. this coming from a govt employee and cop. You should be FREE to make your own decisions on life and reap the rewards or suffer the consequences of those decisions. I'm not really sure why this isn't a popular assessment. It's the premise the Constitution was founded on.
 
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