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How many latin people do you know?Originally posted by advarkas:
Every year, 50,000 Latins reach the age of majority in the United States. In four years, 200,000 Latins will have the ability to impact the Presidential race. The demographics in this country continue to shift, and unless the Republican Party retreats from its traditional far right social views (ranging from abortion to stem cell research to gay marriage to immigration), the Democrats will continue to put candidate after candidate after candidate into the White House...
The burden is on the Republicans to alter their platform to conform with the times- this is 2012, not 1962...
Not conceding what you said in your first paragraph is true, or at least as you claim it to be, Romney ran on promising things to certain demographic groups and telling them what they wanted to hear, but those demographic groups have faded out of power and he lost by a clear and rather sizeable margin.Originally posted by michaelmtripp@aol.com:
No, Obama told all those demographic groups what they wanted to hear (as well as scared women that Romney would make birth control illegal) and they voted for him (less than they did in 2008 BTW). He is a socialist that has convinced people that he isn't one. I'm not running from the truth. What really bothers me is the gloating of the Obama supporters like this is some Miami-FSU rivalry game. When Bush beat Kerry, the Bush supporters weren't running around cheering and shoving it in the faces of the Kerry supporters. The great uniter has turned out to be a bigger divider than Bush was and Bush's second term was a disaster (something that even somebody that voted for him can admit).Originally posted by ucfgoon51:
Lol wow...micheal..so me and all of my friends who have worked since we were 16...went through college and voted for obama are "lazy,government loving,misguided socialists" who are tearing apart america...lol...thats what conservatives tell them selves to feel better.....your philosophy is weak....run from the truth all you want...obama won every demographic majority....except for white men over 40..i guess asian americans(most educated and culturally strict group in america)...blacks...hispanics...college graduates...people under 25...and women all want a "government handout from socialist obama who wants to control our money"....wow....keep crying.
I will keep crying for at least 4 years and I'll get behind Obama the day that he comes up with some ideas that will actually improve things. I will not get behind him while he plays class warfare so that he can "get" the rich white guys. I would even support his tax increase plan if in return for every dollar of tax increase there were $2 of REAL (not government accounting bs where the reduce the rate of growth and call it a cut) spending cuts. Even doing that would still leave $750 billion in deficits but at least it would move in the right direction.
Wow talking about people killing themselves. That's your fellow countrymen. Liberals are so damn tough and you always find a way to lower the discourse. So I will go there shthead.Originally posted by Azar:
Too much ignorance and racist view points on this thread to even address...However, it always puts a smile on my face to know that all the racist are miserable. Enjoy the soul brutha in the white house boys, maybe we'll get a black woman in there next time to make you really want to kill yourself.
This would've been deleted on other boards. This site is going to hell. Gary bans quality posters, but lets this stay up??? I'm not paying 9 bucks to re-hash the election. Heck, even the main board deletes the political stuff.Originally posted by NJCANE1:
Why hasn't this political bullshit been moved to another forum or deleted!!! Gary, WTF??? I don't pay my money here to listen to these bitter people, who voted for a woman that could see Russia from her house!
Mike, im not to sure Regans Tax plan was that low but you could be right. Maybe im thinking about his tax plan for the rich and i know that was around 27-33% of income.Originally posted by michaelmtripp@aol.com:
Under Bill Clinton ALL tax rates were higher not just on the top 1%. The economy was good under Clinton due to a combination of the dotcom bubble and a budget with a surplus (which was arrived at by him working WITH the Republican congress not fighting at every term). The economy wasn't good BECAUSE of the higher tax rates but IN SPITE OF them. If there was going to be a surplus then I'd support bringing taxes back to the Clinton rates. However (through fault of BOTH parties) spending has gotten so out of control that rasing taxes won't get anywhere near a balanced budget. There is no upside to them except for the "feel good" moment of punishing the rich white guys even though a lot of not so rich middle class people will get hurt by Obama's plan. Especially small business that are taxed as individuals that have incomes that can fluctuate and be $300,000 one year and $50,000 the next. On average they don't make that much but they get killed with high taxes the one good year.Originally posted by big_rob:
Originally posted by FightinIbis:
Getting behind a democratic President is one thing...Bill Clinton was fine by me.
Getting behind somebody telling me what freedoms he prefers me to have, what insurance I must carry, and how and where to save the amount of income I have left over once he taxes the shit out of me...sorry, I have never lived in that country and do not have to be happy or "get behind" ideas that contradict the founding principals of the U.S.
UM
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So has any of what u just said happened yet to u???
Alot of the "Tax Codes" Obama wants to put in place is similar to what president Bill Clinton did during his term in office. If you're to young ask your parents about Ronald Regan, during his term in office i believe taxes were higher then what Obama wants to implement and with Regans higher tax's came job growth and a thriving economy.
The part about, what freedom "Obama" prefers you to have, what insurance you must carry, and how and where to save your money is typical "right wing rederick" that holds no weight in any credible POLITICAL ARGUEMENT, simiply because your facts and assumptions are not true.
As far as Reagan, taxes were much higher when he came into office. His whole economic plan was lowering taxes to improve the economy which is what he did. By the time Reagan left office, tax rates were lower than they are now.
BTW, there is a great video on youtube somewhere of John F. Kennedy advocating for lowering tax rates to grow the economy. Like I said, he'd be considered a right wing nut if he ran today.
C'mon Bruh, you know we're all lazy, hang on corners listening to rap music, steal, rob, wait for handouts from good ole white folk, get jobs because of affirmative action, and vote strictly because of skin color. I mean, just admit that prior to Obama, we voted for every prez because he was white but we decided to change our allegiance to a black man this time. You know policies don't matter to us, that be too complicated for us minorities to understand.Originally posted by ucfgoon51:
Lol wow...micheal..so me and all of my friends who have worked since we were 16...went through college and voted for obama are "lazy,government loving,misguided socialists" who are tearing apart america...lol...thats what conservatives tell them selves to feel better.....your philosophy is weak....run from the truth all you want...obama won every demographic majority....except for white men over 40..i guess asian americans(most educated and culturally strict group in america)...blacks...hispanics...college graduates...people under 25...and women all want a "government handout from socialist obama who wants to control our money"....wow....keep crying.
Originally posted by nickakanick:
yawnsville, Gary hire some more mods u cheap bastad
He's not our Commander in Chief. Half the country absolutely hates this clown. We are THIS close to civil war if our private accounts get nationalized IMO.Originally posted by dlmcane:
You're the same assholes who voted for that ignorant illiterate bitch George w bush. All he did was destroy the economy, get the country involved in TWO bullshit wars, STEAL TWO election!!!!You want to know why the country is in such a mess, one fxckin word BUSH!!!! You dumbasses sit there and complain about PRESIDENT OBAMA, but you never talk about that evil, lying pos bush. Have you found the weapons of mass destruction yet?? Thousands of young Americans killed for fxckin NOTHING!!! And you damn geniuses voted for him!!! REAL INTELLIGENT!!! The bottom line is president OBAMA IS YOUR COMMANDER AND CHIEF!!!! SO SUCK ON IT BOYS!!!
As the saying goes, a hit dog will holler every time...As I said, enjoy Obama KlansmanOriginally posted by surfstang:
Wow talking about people killing themselves. That's your fellow countrymen. Liberals are so damn tough and you always find a way to lower the discourse. So I will go there shthead.Originally posted by Azar:
Too much ignorance and racist view points on this thread to even address...However, it always puts a smile on my face to know that all the racist are miserable. Enjoy the soul brutha in the white house boys, maybe we'll get a black woman in there next time to make you really want to kill yourself.
Hey tough guy why don't you strap on a bomb vest and kill yourself in the name Hussein your god. Stupid fuk.
Originally posted by Alaskan Cane:
No, what I'm saying is, and read carefully, if we went back to States Rights over Fed Rights, WE COULD return to pre-Civil war America. I'm not saying WE WOULD. The point is, the CONSTITUTION is a FEDERAL DOCUMENT and overrides States Rights.
Sesame street.Originally posted by BAMA CANE.:
where did you get your charts from Alaska?
lmao, it is a looooooonnng movie to.Your best line yet.Originally posted by canesreturn:
Gary goes to the movies to see Lincoln and Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly infiltrate canesport demanding a recount.
Originally posted by BAMA CANE.:
where did you get your charts from Alaska?
Holler some more dog.Originally posted by Azar:
As the saying goes, a hit dog will holler every time...As I said, enjoy Obama Klansman
Both those charts have appeared online or in print editions of numerous major newspapers (WSJ, NYT, WP, etc.) FWIWOriginally posted by Alaskan Cane:
If you look at the bottom of the second chart you will see the come from the COB a government agency both R's and D's use to asses their proposed budgets. Do you dispute the math? Sesame Streets charts use crayons.
Originally posted by BAMA CANE.:
where did you get your charts from Alaska?
This post was edited on 11/27 9:33 PM by Alaskan Cane
Holler again.Originally posted by Azar:
Good ole KKKane sport! Never lets me down. I personally love moments like this so the canesport negroes who have dellusions of grandeur about how much some of these racist bastards really like you or these bruthas on the team, can get a reality check. They love us when we have a ball in our hands and run a 4.4. They'll even let us marry their daughter.
Amen Brother!Originally posted by advarkas:
I build my beliefs around the principles of Common Sense, The Scientific Method, and The Common Law...
Signed,
A proud Independent...
Right because having one right wing tv channel makes us biased, while every other media outlet in the country is totally left. Its all about freedom. America is supposed be free. That is what we left England for; to be free. Having government tell us what to do is the entire issue. Along with our federal deficit and economy. I really could care less about special interest groups and whether can or cannot do what they want in their personal life. But I just fundamentally disagree with Obamasuck's plan for the economy. His plan stifles growth by punishing the job creators. Taxing more to create more revenue for big govt so they can just spend twice as much is just wrong. It is a death spiral that this country may never recover from. Competition breads strength in the economy just like it does on greentree practice field. Hand outs and freebies get us no where just like the 2008 recruiting class.Originally posted by Alaskan Cane:
I agree completely. Lets get these Teat sucking fools off the govt dole. That would be the Oil companies that get HUGE subsidies, Corporations given tax breaks for having their headquarters overseas, and Hedgefund managers who get HUGE tax breaks. amongst other TEAT SUCKERS.
Oh, and by the way, I only respond to this thread to keep you rightwingnuts from feeling completely isolated in your FoxNewsBubble and spend all your time talking to each other and patting yourselves on the back about how smart you are.
Originally posted by sabrose:
People get minimal information and vote on shallow preferences or out of perceived personal benefit. Alot of voters were afraid their food stamps would cut off ,pensions stopped etc unless they voted for Obama.The problem is there is a point at which a government collapses due to too many people sucking from the government and too few paying in. Insanely, the government has been inviting in illegal aliens and teaching them how to apply for govt assistance when the government is broke. It sues states to prevent them from deporting illegals and making sure they dont vote.
WE are at a level where our yearly deficits are more than our GDP and a president just got elected who will do nothing about it because there are now a majority of voters who are too stupid to understand history and economics. They blame Bush for the economy when it was the Democrats running Fannie Mae into the ground. Bush tried to stop it and the Democrats including Frank, Dodd ,and Waters shouted him down. They fault Bush for spending on the prescription assistance when the Democrats proposed a much more expensive plan. Bush had incompetent or corrupt Securities and exchange monitors.
The fact is both Bush and Obama are incompetent but Obama stands for a system doomed to failure. When the drones that voted for Obama stop getting checks because the treasury is in freefall they will get their just dessert. People with the foresight to avoid the clutches of this current government will be the ones that save it after it collapses.People will learn if you dont work you dont eat and if you pop out 5 babies with no husband or means of support you will pay back society for your irresponsibility.
Originally posted by surfstang:
I find it amazing black guys call racism because you don't agree on policy. Just lazy thinking, but the really outrageous part is organizations like planned parenthood that had there genesis in the eugenics movement are sacred - a racist movement to sterilize people of color. Just unbelievably ignorant.
Damn racist calculators! Damn racist facts!