Another mass shooting

[krvanness]

Very sad...

19 children, 2 adults dead in elementary school shooting, officials say

Fourteen students and a teacher were killed during a Texas school shooting at an elementary school Tuesday afternoon, according to Texas Gov. Greg Abbott.

www.kxan.com

 

[El Cubano]

Very sad...

19 children, 2 adults dead in elementary school shooting, officials say

Fourteen students and a teacher were killed during a Texas school shooting at an elementary school Tuesday afternoon, according to Texas Gov. Greg Abbott.

www.kxan.com

Nothing short of incompetence of this administration…

 

[ddimaggio]

The liberals have already come out of the woodwork and are blaming Republicans, regardless of whether this tragedy had any connection to the current Texas law
It’s not a gun problem. It’s a people problem
The moron in chief will come on TV and make a political speech . Never let dead kids go to waste.

 

[central17]

The liberals have already come out of the woodwork and are blaming Republicans, regardless of whether this tragedy had any connection to the current Texas law
It’s not a gun problem. It’s a people problem
The moron in chief will come on TV and make a political speech . Never let dead kids go to waste.

sad but true.

 

[deuce1906]

The liberals have already come out of the woodwork and are blaming Republicans, regardless of whether this tragedy had any connection to the current Texas law
It’s not a gun problem. It’s a people problem
The moron in chief will come on TV and make a political speech . Never let dead kids go to waste.

If it’s a people problem, why doesn’t this happen in other countries? It doesn’t happen in Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Japan or Australia?

 

[ddimaggio]

If it’s a people problem, why doesn’t this happen in other countries? It doesn’t happen in Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Japan or Australia?

People are different in those countries.
They don’t commit mass murder like we do here. It’s just a fact
Now we do have a 2nd amendment and a history of gun ownership

We are 4% of the world’s population. We have about 45% of the worlds legal guns
Is anyone proposing a constitutional amendment to repeal the 2nd amendment. Or even an unconstitutional law to outlaw firearms?
We don’t even know what the facts are in this case and how the weapon was obtained or even the types of weapons used

 

[801canesmxer]

If it’s a people problem, why doesn’t this happen in other countries? It doesn’t happen in Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Japan or Australia?

A deranged lunatic killed over 80 people in a single attack with a truck in France a few years back. I heard that he never had to reload once during his attack. Do we ban all trucks, or just make them have smaller capacity gas tanks to prevent more damage from being done?

 

[deuce1906]

A deranged lunatic killed over 80 people in a single attack with a truck in France a few years back. I heard that he never had to reload once during his attack. Do we ban all trucks, or just make them have smaller capacity gas tanks to prevent more damage from being done?

That’s one incident but we do block road entrances to big festivals with dump trucks and barricades. And furthermore it’s one incident. This is the 5th major incident at a school in the last 10 years. When are we do something about that?

or are you saying you’re ok with this?

 

[grbcane]

Gun laws do nothing to prevent criminals from getting guns, all they do is prevent law abiding citizens from carrying out their constitutionAl rights.

Did you hear about the guy on his way to commit a mass shooting, who suddenly changed his mind when he realized he was breaking gun laws?

Yeah me neither.

 

[grbcane]

"Unfit for Leadership of this Country - I'm in Shock!" - Tucker Carlson GOES OFF on Joe Biden after His Grotesque, Partisan Speech Following Texas School Shooting (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Joe Biden delivered a hateful, partisan, disgusting statement following the mass shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[deuce1906]

Gun laws do nothing to prevent criminals from getting guns, all they do is prevent law abiding citizens from carrying out their constitutionAl rights.

Did you hear about the guy on his way to commit a mass shooting, who suddenly changed his mind when he realized he was breaking gun laws?

Yeah me neither.

how about we make it harder for people to get guns. Voter ID isn’t in the constitution to verify that you’re legally exercising your right to vote. We should place background checks and proper training in order to exercise your constitutional right.

Gun deaths are the #1 cause of death in children in the United States of America. We should do something about that.

 

[hawaiian cane]

Nothing short of incompetence of this administration…

The perp is a shining example of the repubs definition of a well trained militia

 

[KOWBOY88]

I’ll just go ahead and say it . This one ain’t on Joe. Just like the other ones weren’t on the president.
But you can bet your sweet ass this is on the politicians that can’t seem to agree on anything that has to do with public safety.
politicians that
1) denounce law enforcement
2) politicians that want to defund the police
3) politicians that don’t want to punish criminals and turn them lose.
4) politicians that have a fairytale about outlawing guns
5) politicians that use children as leverage
6) politicians that want security with guns to protect them and don’t want every school to have armed security like themselves
We protect our money in banks but we don’t protect our children.
politicians who want plexiglass to separate your kids to protect them from a virus that they were the least likely to get, but refused to allow police officers to be placed in every school. No those politicians want to dream about gun control and they can’t wait to use these avoidable instances to promote a policy that will do nothing to protect the kids.
Politicians that have undermined trust in law enforcement aren’t smart enough to think about just maybe with police officers in schools is a way for kids to learn that police aren’t racist and out to get you . The politicians that don’t want kids suspended and barred from schools like the kid in parkland.
Politicians that constantly demonize their political opponents as evil . Politicians that want to teach kids that people who look different than you are your enemies.
Ask yourself why shouldn’t we do the fastest thing we can, put well trained armed police in every school. Heck in the middle and high schools the violence between students is worse than ever . What ever happened to deterrence? We just saw congress approve 40 billion dollars for Ukraine in days. There’s still billions of money left from Covid the schools never spent. There’s 100 million gun owners in this country. Good luck banning guns.Any politicians that go down the gun control road have no interest in helping out or protecting our children.
They don’t want cops in schools or armed security divisions because they know it will reduce these events. These always happen were there isn’t sufficient security. Democrats always want everything not the most sensible thing. There’s such an abundance of veterans and retired law enforcement officers that could fill these positions in their own home towns. Its time to stop the blame the gun lobby game. It’s the government’s first priority is to protect its citizens.
And it should be everyone’s priority to protect kids. Banning guns means only the lawbreakers and the government will have them. If you ban ar15s the cartel will just bring them across the border like everything else that these idiots ban. People gotta snap out of this bullshit .

 

[thedonaldWYO]

how about we make it harder for people to get guns. Voter ID isn’t in the constitution to verify that you’re legally exercising your right to vote. We should place background checks and proper training in order to exercise your constitutional right.

Gun deaths are the #1 cause of death in children in the United States of America. We should do something about that.

Duece- as a gun owner that is in place already. Sure I have a CWP (concealed weapons permit for those that do not know the acrynom), but I still had to go through the process which was harder than obtaining a passport or driver’s license.

What happened today is awful, what happened in the subway system in NYC is terrible, what happens on military bases is extremely disturbing, and any other time we have a scenario. What about suicide bombers in other countries? How about France (already mentioned) and Norway a few years ago?

Ghost guns are a real thing, so let’s await the facts to come out. Mine are all registered to me and nobody else.

 

[801canesmxer]

That’s one incident but we do block road entrances to big festivals with dump trucks and barricades. And furthermore it’s one incident. This is the 5th major incident at a school in the last 10 years. When are we do something about that?

or are you saying you’re ok with this?

There have been many more of these "incidents" around the world including one on a bridge in England a few years ago that took the life of a Utah man, and of course, the deranged idiot in Charlottesville that took the life of a woman. People are killed by many things but only the gun is used as a political stance. Of course I'm not OK with what happened in Texas but how about we not blame an inanimate object and start placing the blame where it belongs. If we're being honest here, a vehicle is a much better weapon to inflict mass casualties with.

 

[deuce1906]

Duece- as a gun owner that is in place already. Sure I have a CWP (concealed weapons permit for those that do not know the acrynom), but I still had to go through the process which was harder than obtaining a passport or driver’s license.

What happened today is awful, what happened in the subway system in NYC is terrible, what happens on military bases is extremely disturbing, and any other time we have a scenario. What about suicide bombers in other countries? How about France (already mentioned) and Norway a few years ago?

Ghost guns are a real thing, so let’s await the facts to come out. Mine are all registered to me and nobody else.

It’s good that it was hard for you to get that CWP, as it should be. I’m ok with that. But That’s not the law in Texas. You don’t need a permit and you don’t need any training to buy a gun.

you speak on those attacks in other countries and you say a few years back. We had 2 major mass shootings in less than a week! We gotta do something. …

 

[thedonaldWYO]

It’s good that it was hard for you to get that CWP, as it should be. I’m ok with that. But That’s not the law in Texas. You don’t need a permit and you don’t need any training to buy a gun.

you speak on those attacks in other countries and you say a few years back. We had 2 major mass shootings in less than a week! We gotta do something. …

i do not disagree with you at all but do not try to take away what i own legally either.

 

[deuce1906]

There have been many more of these "incidents" around the world including one on a bridge in England a few years ago that took the life of a Utah man, and of course, the deranged idiot in Charlottesville that took the life of a woman. People are killed by many things but only the gun is used as a political stance. Of course I'm not OK with what happened in Texas but how about we not blame an inanimate object and start placing the blame where it belongs. If we're being honest here, a vehicle is a much better weapon to inflict mass casualties with.

cars used to kill a lot more people, so what did we do, we made them better and safer. Planes used to crash more frequently, we used tragedies to make them better and safer.

guns are used by people to kill children. Let’s learn from these tragedies to make our country safer.

you can’t say guns are not an issue but then look at what other countries these happen in. Florida has a smaller population than England yet we’ve have 2 major mass shootings in the last 5 years in Orlando and parkland that killed 75 people. In the entire country of England, 56 million compared to Fla 20 million, had 150 murders using a gun in that same time frame. Just think about that. You can’t tell me that the guns don’t matter. Or do you have another explanation…

 

[deuce1906]

i do not disagree with you at all but do not try to take away what i own legally either.

No one said that. I just want to make it harder to own them.

 

[krvanness]

No one said that. I just want to make it harder to own them.

Deuce, how does making it "harder" solve anything when the perpetrator still gets his/her hands on a gun?

 

[KOWBOY88]

The democrats are like lawyers mainly because the majority of them actually are You know everyone hates lawyers till you need one. Then if you need one you need one that is a little bit sleazy. You know. Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story . They are so appalled “when is enough enough “ !!!!
Now the memo’s were pre written they got two things they can campaign on now . Abortion and school shootings and kids are their favorite political tool You know the republicans hate kids even though they want more of them. . Kind of ironic the democrats are on opposite sides on the two issues.
They believe in their hearts that banning guns and taken them away from people they think shouldn’t have them will work. It won’t they’ve already proved it doesn’t in Illinois and Newyork were they have the strictest gun laws in the country. So they blame the neighbor states ok ban ‘em good luck stopping the flow from Mexico. You just made the cartel’s happy

 

[hawaiian cane]

Heart broken of the news of another mass shooting. Prayers and deepest condolences to the families & victims.
How many more tragedies must we endure before opponents of common -sense gun policies come to their senses?????????
According to the FBI, "active shooter" incidents increased by more than 50% in 2021, compared to 2020, and those incidents resulted in the highest number of deaths since 2017.

 

[6882]

Wtf?! 21 people, 19 of which little kids just got murdered at what every parent drops their kids off of in hopes of being safe. I don’t think it’s asking too much to just leave politics out of this for a while.

 

[tscardina_a_comcast.net]

A deranged lunatic killed over 80 people in a single attack with a truck in France a few years back. I heard that he never had to reload once during his attack. Do we ban all trucks, or just make them have smaller capacity gas tanks to prevent more damage from being done?

we have 50 POS Senators who won't pass a backround check that 90% of Americans want because these scum bag Mo Fo's in DC are sucking these Gun Lobbyist off. And you bring up what happened in France u sir are a real piece of work. I hope and pray that you don't have to experience the nightmare what these families in Texas are going through right now. This as u put it this deranged lunatic in Texas couldn't even go into a 7-11 and buy a beer but he can walk into a gun store and buy 2 assault rifles and body armor that he used to slaughter 19 children and 2 adults.. U make me f*ckin sick..

 

[HJCane]

It's not a FACT if you take the time to research

Mass Shootings: A Global Concern​

Although events in the U.S. tend to get the lion's share of media exposure, mass shootings are clearly a worldwide issue. The following is an alphabetized list of just some of the developed countries other than the United States that have experienced one or more mass shootings in the past few decades: Azerbaijan, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Finland, France, Germany, India, Israel, Italy, Nigeria, Norway, the Philippines, Russia, Serbia, Spain, and Switzerland.

The United States does have an unusually high rate of gun violence for a developed and wealthy nation. Viewed in terms of sheer volume, the U.S. also tallies the most mass shootings](/state-rankings/mass-shootings-by-state), with (depending upon definition) somewhere between 21 and more than 600 in 2020.

Does the United States have more mass shootings than other countries? It depends on the data.​

Exactly how mass shootings in the U.S. compare to those in other countries is a highly disputed subject. In a widely publicized study originally released in 2015, the pro-gun nonprofit Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) compared the annual number of mass shooting deaths per million people in the U.S. to that of Canada and several European countries from 2009 to 2015. The result? Norway led the world with 1.88 deaths per million, followed by Serbia, France, and Macedonia. Where did the U.S. rank? 11th place.

Average (Mean) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):​

1. Norway — 1.888
2. Serbia — 0.381
3. France — 0.347
4. Macedonia — 0.337
5. Albania — 0.206
6. Slovakia — 0.185
7. Switzerland — 0.142
8. Finland — 0.132
9. Belgium — 0.128
10. Czech Republic — 0.123
11. United States — 0.089
12. Austria — 0.068
13. Netherlands — 0.051
14. Canada — 0.032
15. England — 0.027
16. Germany — 0.023
17. Russia — 0.012
18. Italy — 0.009

In addition, a 2018 CRPC study ranked the U.S. at number sixty-four in the world in terms of mass shooting rates per capita.

 

[HJCane]

Now as to this HORROR.
America has MILLIONS and MILLIONS of guns that we are NEVER getting rid of short of a complete dismantling of the USA. Not happening.
I have more questions then just guns.
Why are these shooters almost always young men. Buffalo, 18 years old. Uvalda, TX 18-19 years old.
Why? Why are these young boys so deranged? How did they get this way? Marjorey Stoneman Douglas 18-19 years old. How?
Is it Social media, Videogames, lack of social interaction?
Any of you give any thought to how hard it is to shoot another human? It isn't easy for a normal healthy human nevermind a mass shooting.
Until we figure this out we had better take serious measures to protect our children.

 

[HJCane]

we have 50 POS Senators who won't pass a backround check that 90% of Americans want because these scum bag Mo Fo's in DC are sucking these Gun Lobbyist off. And you bring up what happened in France u sir are a real piece of work. I hope and pray that you don't have to experience the nightmare what these families in Texas are going through right now. This as u put it this deranged lunatic in Texas couldn't even go into a 7-11 and buy a beer but he can walk into a gun store and buy 2 assault rifles and body armor that he used to slaughter 19 children and 2 adults.. U make me f*ckin sick..

Is that how he got the guns? I hadn't heard this.

 

[HJCane]

No one said that. I just want to make it harder to own them.

What would be some of your ideas?

 

[dolcane]

No one said that. I just want to make it harder to own them.

You mean make it harder to get guns like we did with drug laws? Yeah, that sure worked well to solve America's drug problem.

 

[grbcane]

how about we make it harder for people to get guns. Voter ID isn’t in the constitution to verify that you’re legally exercising your right to vote. We should place background checks and proper training in order to exercise your constitutional right.

Gun deaths are the #1 cause of death in children in the United States of America. We should do something about that.

The only people affected by gun laws are law abiding citizens.

Its really common sense.

How are those strict gun laws in Chicago working out?

 

[deuce1906]

What would be some of your ideas?

Nationwide background check, mandatory training (at least a one day course) or however many hrs experts and law enforcement deem is necessary, no more online sales (gotta go to a store or if you sell to a friend you gotta go thru a broker of some sort to certify the sale like a notary on a signature) and a solid 3-5 days waiting period to purchase a firearm.

you want an assault rifle you gotta do extra training for that. Like an additional day course or something.

I think those are sensible measures.

 

[HJCane]

Nationwide background check, mandatory training (at least a one day course) or however many hrs experts and law enforcement deem is necessary, no more online sales (gotta go to a store or if you sell to a friend you gotta go thru a broker of some sort to certify the sale like a notary on a signature) and a solid 3-5 days waiting period to purchase a firearm.

you want an assault rifle you gotta do extra training for that. Like an additional day course or something.

I think those are sensible measures.

Ok all decent ideas. Now tell me about the criminals. Isn't that where all these ideas fail?

 

[HJCane]

Nationwide background check, mandatory training (at least a one day course) or however many hrs experts and law enforcement deem is necessary, no more online sales (gotta go to a store or if you sell to a friend you gotta go thru a broker of some sort to certify the sale like a notary on a signature) and a solid 3-5 days waiting period to purchase a firearm.

you want an assault rifle you gotta do extra training for that. Like an additional day course or something.

I think those are sensible measures.

These aren't accidental shootings. These are quite deliberate. None of that would have stopped yesterdays massacre.

 

[SwayinCane]

Nothing short of incompetence of this administration…

WRONG CUBANO !! AND ALL YOU LATINOS WHO ARE REPUBLICANS.
BEEN THAT WAY FOR AWHILE.
NRA FUELS THE REPUBLICAN PARY
DESANTIS WANTS "" CONSTITIONAL CARRY" ? NO PERMITS NO BACKROUND CHECKS.

KEEP SUCKING UP TO TRUMPISM hahahaha.

STEVE KERR ON INSTAGRAM LAST NIGHT BEFORE THE PLAYOFF GAME - POWERFUL SPOKEN LIKE A PARENT WHO KNOWS.

 

[deuce1906]

The only people affected by gun laws are law abiding citizens.

Its really common sense.

How are those strict gun laws in Chicago working out?

You bringing up Chicago is a perfect example on why we need federal action on this so that the there are the same baseline Rules nationwide.

Illinois stricter gun laws, however next door Indiana has relaxed gun laws and it takes 30 min to get from Chicago to Indians to purchase a gun. People go from one state to another who’s laws are different and bring the guns back home.

 

[deuce1906]

These aren't accidental shootings. These are quite deliberate. None of that would have stopped yesterdays massacre.

We don’t know about yesterday. Bc we don’t have any details yet on the shooter. But last weeks shooter in Buffalo (insane that I can refer to something 10 days ago) had multiple interaction with authorities and mental health evaluations. Those should pop up in a more in depth background check.

 

[deuce1906]

You mean make it harder to get guns like we did with drug laws? Yeah, that sure worked well to solve America's drug problem.

The reason why drugs have gotten bad in the last 20 years (opioid crisis) is bc you had legal doctors prescribing an unholy amounts of opioids. That got regular people hooked and then they sought other avenues for drug seeking. It’s a completely different topic.

 

[deuce1906]

Ok all decent ideas. Now tell me about the criminals. Isn't that where all these ideas fail?

No it’s not where they fail. Many of these mass shooters don’t nec have criminal history although they are known by law enforcement and/or have had some type of mental health episode.

the #1 cause of death for children are gunshot wounds. Often not by criminals but by guns accessed in a home. If parents had proper training they could would and should teach their kids about gun safety and would make sure the guns are properly stored.

furthermore we should properly fund and have a director for the ATF (we haven’t had a senate confirmed one in more than 5 years) and have that agency crack down on illegal gun sales.

criminals in other countries don’t have access to guns like that either. We are the only country that does bc we have let guns flood our country.

 

[central17]

The children in Texas have not all been identified and a three stooges of politicians are already running their mouths with their political agenda. No real sympathy or desire to learn how and why this tragedy occured. Three Stooges; Joe Biden, Gavin Newsome and Paul Gosar act like they already know everything and Wow? it meets their political agenda. I wish those three and other political and media yappers on both sides would just STFU. IMO they are not much better than the despicable shooter.

 

[central17]

Gun laws do nothing to prevent criminals from getting guns, all they do is prevent law abiding citizens from carrying out their constitutionAl rights.

Did you hear about the guy on his way to commit a mass shooting, who suddenly changed his mind when he realized he was breaking gun laws?

Yeah me neither.

If it weren't for the guns, I am sure the deranged killer would have been building Habitat for Humanity homes or volunteering at a soup kitchen. Yep, it was the gun that made that sweet noble boy do it.