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Energy payments EXEMPT from the sanctions. This is the left.............

HJCane

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When you destroy our own ability to be SELF RELIANT especially for National Security then you have put America in the proverbial PICKLE> The USA and the LEFT in Europe have basically told the Dope Dealer that he is in big trouble but we will KEEP PAYING FOR HIS DOPE!

Make NO MISTAKE this is the Liberals and another moronic foolish set of policies. This is WHERE PUTIN GETS THE BULK OF HIS MONEY!!
 
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Wheat was also excluded from the sanctions. China has agreed to increase purchases of Russian goods. China would love to establish an alternative world banking system. Russia exports are mostly raw materials which are far more fungible on the world market. The sanctions will hurt Russia, but are not likely to change Putin's behavior. If anything they may make him want to disrupt European business.
 
Wheat was also excluded from the sanctions. China has agreed to increase purchases of Russian goods. China would love to establish an alternative world banking system. Russia exports are mostly raw materials which are far more fungible on the world market. The sanctions will hurt Russia, but are not likely to change Putin's behavior. If anything they may make him want to disrupt European business.
The sanctions have pushed Russian banks to the brink of collapse. The ruple fell to record low against the US dollar and Moscow stock exchange was closed for the day.
 
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The sanctions have pushed Russian banks to the brink of collapse. The ruple fell to record low against the US dollar and Moscow stock exchange was closed for the day.
Russia has lots of Oil and Gas. The world economy needs those commodities. The world including Europe and China will pay Putin for it. Windmills and solar panels don't get it done. Money will find its way to Putin and he will continue to finance his mischief with the growing cost per barrel, created to a great part by the "fairy dust" Biden energy policy.
 
Russia has lots of Oil and Gas. The world economy needs those commodities. The world including Europe and China will pay Putin for it. Windmills and solar panels don't get it done. Money will find its way to Putin and he will continue to finance his mischief with the growing cost per barrel, created to a great part by the "fairy dust" Biden energy policy.
What you're saying is all longer term. I'm talking about right now. The banks are on the verge of collapse and even the oligarchs are beginning to speak out against Putin as their wealth evaporates. He's phuked! Ukraine and Russia are holding further talks and Putin will find a way to back down without losing face and still claiming some sort of victory. He thought he could march in, set up his puppets and be done with it. He made a huge miscalculation and it's biting him in the ass. That's what happens when the ego overrules common sense. He thought he was going to bolster his legacy but he's done the opposite.
 
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What you're saying is all longer term. I'm talking about right now. The banks are on the verge of collapse and even the oligarchs are beginning to speak out against Putin as their wealth evaporates. He's phuked! Ukraine and Russia are holding further talks and Putin will find a way to back down without losing face and still claiming some sort of victory. He thought he could march in, set up his puppets and be done with it. He made a huge miscalculation and it's biting him in the ass. That's what happens when the ego overrules common sense. He thought he was going to bolster his legacy but he's done the opposite.
Mike,
I truly wish you were correct. Putin is a bad actor. But evil is winning in a lot of places. China for one. They control Hong Kong once the bastion of free enterprise and have Taiwan in their sites. Do you realize what China could do to the US if they decided to say stop sending pharmaceuticals, rare earth minerals and many other critical exports We export the NBA to them. Drug Cartels now control much of Latin America and have bought off parts of the US government. The Taliban is in control of Afghanistan.

Carving out energy from the Russian sanctions took away the majority of their strength. Russia is exporting oil and gas, not TV's and cars. Germany and other European countries will continue to pay whether the funds are routed through SWIFT or China. Russia can feed and keep their own people warm. Biden is weak and the bad guys will continue to push the envelope. The world has gotten much more dangerous.
 
We have to hope and pray the sanctions and crashing world view on Putin drives him OUT of office or he gets the "Et Tu Brute' " very soon, or China, Iran, et al will buy Russian in mass and blow him right back up. If that happens, we have the Warsaw pack vs Nato all over again, except much much closer to War. At that point the Gamble on " Environment" and being Energy Dependent will doom us to War, and that War Will doom the Environment.
 
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What you're saying is all longer term. I'm talking about right now. The banks are on the verge of collapse and even the oligarchs are beginning to speak out against Putin as their wealth evaporates. He's phuked! Ukraine and Russia are holding further talks and Putin will find a way to back down without losing face and still claiming some sort of victory. He thought he could march in, set up his puppets and be done with it. He made a huge miscalculation and it's biting him in the ass. That's what happens when the ego overrules common sense. He thought he was going to bolster his legacy but he's done the opposite.
Incorrect again. Putin will conquer Ukraine. It will be far harder then he anticipated and I appreciate the effort by the Ukranian people. My Father in law has family in Ukraine. HOLDING Ukraine will be his downfall. It will be a constant source of death and injury for Putin. I don't know whether I agree that he made a miscalculation because the mind of madmen doesn't work like that. There will be immense pressure on him from his inner circle.

In my building the Penthouse #1 which is 9000 sq ft is owned by a Russian who owns / runs all the coal mines in Russia. He hasn't been allowed here since like 2018 when TRUMP put sanctions on Russia. That is just 1 example of an oligarchs 12mm penthouse just sitting here. He owns lots of those but his visa was revoked by Trump. So the pressure will be high. I wouldn't be surprised if they kill him. I'm serious.
 
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Mike,
I truly wish you were correct. Putin is a bad actor. But evil is winning in a lot of places. China for one. They control Hong Kong once the bastion of free enterprise and have Taiwan in their sites. Do you realize what China could do to the US if they decided to say stop sending pharmaceuticals, rare earth minerals and many other critical exports We export the NBA to them. Drug Cartels now control much of Latin America and have bought off parts of the US government. The Taliban is in control of Afghanistan.

Carving out energy from the Russian sanctions took away the majority of their strength. Russia is exporting oil and gas, not TV's and cars. Germany and other European countries will continue to pay whether the funds are routed through SWIFT or China. Russia can feed and keep their own people warm. Biden is weak and the bad guys will continue to push the envelope. The world has gotten much more dangerous.
And while this is happening countries like Iran have no attention being paid to them.
 
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