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Biden campaigned on destroying fossil fuel industry. As soon as he got elected international oil markets reacted and prices started going up, because they justifiably felt threatened in terms of permits, regulations and financing- facts.

Again, the international oil market is driven by supply and demand, much of which is driven directly by opec production. There are also geopolitical pressures (Russia/Ukraine war, COVID etc)., This has always been the case and has remained the case when Trump and Biden came to office.
 
Again, the international oil market is driven by supply and demand, much of which is driven directly by opec production. There are also geopolitical pressures (Russia/Ukraine war, COVID etc)., This has always been the case and has remained the case when Trump and Biden came to office.
Tell me why oil prices started going immediately after Biden's election. Coincidence ? Didn't happen after Trump's election.
 
The Presidential candidate of the country which is the largest producer of oil in the world campaigns on destroying fossil fuel industry , and they want us to believe that has no bearing on an IMMEDIATE rise in oil prices. LOL! Just coincidence.
 
Tell me why oil prices started going immediately after Biden's election. Coincidence ? Didn't happen after Trump's election.

The oil price went up $37 during Trump's final 12 months in office and continued during Biden's term

Its largely COVID related, which caused supply and demand shocks globally. The oil price does not care who the current President is. It does however care when OPEC cut production, which has compounded the problem during the COVID recovery.
 
The oil price went up $37 during Trump's final 12 months in office and continued during Biden's term

Its largely COVID related, which caused supply and demand shocks globally. The oil price does not care who the current President is. It does however care when OPEC cut production, which has compounded the problem during the COVID recovery.
You don't think going from "drill baby drill" to "let's go green" has any impact on the current gas/oil prices?
 
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Again, the international oil market is driven by supply and demand, much of which is driven directly by opec production. There are also geopolitical pressures (Russia/Ukraine war, COVID etc)., This has always been the case and has remained the case when Trump and Biden came to office.
HE DECLARED WAR on Oil and fossil fuels DURING HIS CAMPAIGN! And when he was elected he started shutting down projects in that sector ASAP. Thats why psychology changed and thats why we can't ramp up production to offset some of the Putin crap. BECAUSE who would take on the RISK when the leaders have declared to put you out of business? NO ONE would.
 
The oil price went up $37 during Trump's final 12 months in office and continued during Biden's term

Its largely COVID related, which caused supply and demand shocks globally. The oil price does not care who the current President is. It does however care when OPEC cut production, which has compounded the problem during the COVID recovery.
OPEC UP 3mm barrels
How much oil is OPEC currently producing?


30.03M

OPEC Crude Oil Production is at a current level of 30.03M, down from 30.09M last month and up from 27.32M one year ago.
 
HE DECLARED WAR on Oil and fossil fuels DURING HIS CAMPAIGN! And when he was elected he started shutting down projects in that sector ASAP. Thats why psychology changed and thats why we can't ramp up production to offset some of the Putin crap. BECAUSE who would take on the RISK when the leaders have declared to put you out of business? NO ONE would.

Verbally declaring war is not an action, and as mentioned dozens of times in other threads, Keystone is not a source of anything given that it wasn't built and the oil is already coming in through other means. Let's put the political crack pipe down and look at the real causes of the problem, which can''t be fixed by this or any President.

You may also ask your own party why they unanimously vetoed a bill preventing price gouging at gas stations.
 
You don't think going from "drill baby drill" to "let's go green" has any impact on the current gas/oil prices?

No I don't. The oil price is an international phenomenon that is driven by global supply and demand across dozens of countries and cartels like OPEC who set output rates.
 
Verbally declaring war is not an action, and as mentioned dozens of times in other threads, Keystone is not a source of anything given that it wasn't built and the oil is already coming in through other means. Let's put the political crack pipe down and look at the real causes of the problem, which can''t be fixed by this or any President.

You may also ask your own party why they unanimously vetoed a bill preventing price gouging at gas stations.
Because they aren't price gouging. They don't SET THE PRICES it is set on the open markets. Thats one thing.
When the LEADERSHIP of the COUNTRY campaigns on SHUTTING YOUR INDUSTRY down and actually walks into office and begins cancelling projects ALREADY APPROVED AND BEING INSTITUTED then you have every reason to believe them that they DO NOT SUPPORT YOUR EFFORTS> It's wholly logical.
Nevermind that he caused financing to dry up.




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Verbally declaring war is not an action, and as mentioned dozens of times in other threads, Keystone is not a source of anything given that it wasn't built and the oil is already coming in through other means. Let's put the political crack pipe down and look at the real causes of the problem, which can''t be fixed by this or any President.

You may also ask your own party why they unanimously vetoed a bill preventing price gouging at gas stations.
You are delusional. When the POTUS,the largest oil producer in the world, declares he is going to destroy fossil fuel industry, it effects international oil market's psychology. How could you possibly think otherwise?
 
Because they aren't price gouging. They don't SET THE PRICES it is set on the open markets.

OIl prices are making record profits at a time when the people are hurting at the pump. I'm sure the GOP reaction to the bill have nothing to do with this. :cool:


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You are delusional. When the POTUS,the largest oil producer in the world, declares he is going to destroy fossil fuel industry, it effects international oil market's psychology. How could you possibly think otherwise?

See the graph i posted. Despite his language, he has maintained high output.
 
OIl prices are making record profits at a time when the people are hurting at the pump. I'm sure the GOP reaction to the bill have nothing to do with this. :cool:


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Smart business people. Who would donate to their own demise?
 
See the graph i posted. Despite his language, he has maintained high output.
He hasn't. Our energy and fossil fuel companies have and they COULD have increased production more but he shut down projects, increased red tape, and made getting new financing dry up.

Raoul can't you ever just say boy that was stupid?
 
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There's your problem that the bill would've fixed, and yet the GOP rejected it while the people are hurting at the pump.
The BILL ASSUMES PRICE GOUGING but thats just political rhetoric. There is no gouging the PRICES ARE SET IN THE OPEN MARKETS just like wheat, beef, corn, soybeans, foreign currencies, Treasury products, metals, lumber, copper, pork bellies.

Are you so SIMPLE MINDED to believe every stupid thing these idiots say?
The average gas station makes a nickel on a gallon of gas.
It is SET IN THE COMMODITY MARKETS .
 
There's your problem that the bill would've fixed, and yet the GOP rejected it while the people are hurting at the pump.

Supply & Demand​

The concept of supply and demand is fairly straightforward. As demand increases (or supply decreases) the price should go up. As demand decreases (or supply increases) the price should go down. Sounds simple?


Not quite. The price of oil as we know it is actually set in the oil futures market.5 An oil futures contract is a binding agreement that gives one the right to purchase oil by the barrel at a predefined price on a predefined date in the future. Under a futures contract, both the buyer and the seller are obligated to fulfill their side of the transaction on the specified date.

Oil Market Participants​

The following are two types of futures traders:



An example of a hedger would be an airline buying oil futures to guard against potential rising prices. An example of a speculator would be someone who is just guessing the price direction and has no intention of actually buying the product. According to the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME), the majority of futures trading done by speculators whereby the purchaser of a futures contract takes possession of the commodity is less than 3%.7

Sentiment​

The other key factor in determining oil prices is sentiment. The mere belief that oil demand will increase dramatically at some point in the future can result in a dramatic increase in oil prices in the present, as speculators and hedgers alike snap up oil futures contracts.


Of course, the opposite is also true. The mere belief that oil demand will decrease at some point in the future can result in a dramatic decrease in prices in the present as oil futures contracts are sold (possibly sold short as well), which means that prices can hinge on little more than market psychology.

THERE YOU GO RAOUL> DO YOU SEE ANYWHERE IN THERE WHERE OIL COMPANIES SET PRICING?
No you don't.
 
See the graph i posted. Despite his language, he has maintained high output.
When Trump took office production was at 8.8 million barrels a day thanks to Obama's regulation. In the last month before the Covid shutdown we were at 12.7 million barrels a day- facts. We are now a million barrels a day below that figure and draining SPR and going begging to Saudi Arabia. Get real.
 
When Trump took office production was at 8.8 million barrels a day thanks to Obama's regulation. In the last month before the Covid shutdown we were at 12.7 million barrels a day- facts. We are now a million barrels a day below that figure and draining SPR and going begging to Saudi Arabia. Get real.
Cite your source for these morons.
Price gouging it's LAUGHABLE! As if oil companies set the price of oil. So UTTERLY STUPID>
 
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Can't link.Sorry. The Fuse an energy publication non political Gregory Brew January 20 2021- facts
 
The biggest joke is Brandon repeating the ridiculous taking point about the 9000 useless leases not being drilled
The drillers, including exploration companies and bigger Oil concerns are conservative when it comes to sinking $ into speculative ventures
There must be likelihood of success and a supportive regulatory environment
These are not short term endeavors
But we are dealing with a Socialist government who doesn’t understand business and profitability
We could have ameliorated the problem by sending messages that we would ramp up our domestic production to meet our internal needs and ramp up our natural gas exports , which are in abundant supply
We let a third world economy sink out economy according to Brandon. It’s doubtful that’s true , but either way it’s an indictment of their failed leadership
Meanwhile the democrats are re litigating events that happened 2 years ago and were subject to an impeachment trial , oblivious to the collapse of our country’s economy
 
Because they aren't price gouging. They don't SET THE PRICES it is set on the open markets. Thats one thing.
When the LEADERSHIP of the COUNTRY campaigns on SHUTTING YOUR INDUSTRY down and actually walks into office and begins cancelling projects ALREADY APPROVED AND BEING INSTITUTED then you have every reason to believe them that they DO NOT SUPPORT YOUR EFFORTS> It's wholly logical.
Nevermind that he caused financing to dry up.




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Please don't confuse the progressives with facts. They are very fragile and may melt.
 
Brandon being elected was a world event - and a tragic one.
In the last three months of the Trump Administration oil prices rose by 32% which means oil prices were rising before Biden took office.
 
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Oil prices are dependent upon supply and demand are are subject to world events.
Thanks Professor. And what happens when the leader of one of the top producers in the world threatens to put you out of business? Is that good for the market? Does that create a "lets take on risk" environment? Do you know how many wells they drill that don't produce any oil?
Fools on the left complete useless fools.
 
In the last three months of the Trump Administration oil prices rose by 32%.
And in 2020 oil was negative priced. In fact it traded at -32$ per barrel. January 2020 $2.10 per gallon.
October 21 $3.30 per gallon.
November 21 $3.40 per gallon.
Putin invades Ukraine February 2022. Gas was already north of $3.50 per gallon.
 
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Oh so we went from $2.00 per gallon to $2.40? Thanks Mathametician.
Mike is both an Economics and Math Professor who knew?
 
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Thanks Professor. And what happens when the leader of one of the top producers in the world threatens to put you out of business? Is that good for the market? Does that create a "lets take on risk" environment? Do you know how many wells they drill that don't produce any oil?
Fools on the left complete useless fools.
Every developed country in the world is looking to lessen dependency on fossil fuels and invest in renewable energy.
 
Verbally declaring war is not an action, and as mentioned dozens of times in other threads, Keystone is not a source of anything given that it wasn't built and the oil is already coming in through other means. Let's put the political crack pipe down and look at the real causes of the problem, which can''t be fixed by this or any President.

You may also ask your own party why they unanimously vetoed a bill preventing price gouging at gas stations.
Shutting down the Keystone Pipelines and half of Alaska are tangible actions. Business will not invest Million$ to energy creation only to have their investment wiped out by a pen stroke of a senile old fool wearing diapers.
 
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Oh so we went from $2.00 per gallon to $2.40? Thanks Mathametician.
Mike is both an Economics and Math Professor who knew?
HJCane is a Trump apologist who is in for a rude awakening when his hero faces criminal charges for trying to overturn the election.
 
In the last three months of the Trump Administration oil prices rose by 32% which means oil prices were rising before Biden took office.
The last three months of the Trump administration. hmmm? That would directly coincide with the terrifying knowledge that Brandon would soon be in charge. Smart people knew his policies would be a disaster and starting acting accordingly.
 
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