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SCOTUS denied Trump’s appeal re taxes

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With no dissent, the Supreme Court today denied Trump’s appeal to avoid disclosure of his taxes to NYC DA Cyrus Vance.

Yikes! Another defeat for the Trump legal team and another potential hit to his post presidential legal issues.

Look out!
 
With no dissent, the Supreme Court today denied Trump’s appeal to avoid disclosure of his taxes to NYC DA Cyrus Vance.

Yikes! Another defeat for the Trump legal team and another potential hit to his post presidential legal issues.

Look out!
How can you be sure? Do you know something or just speculating?
 
How can you be sure? Do you know something or just speculating?

Not sure of your point, HJ.

The SCOTUS decision is clear. No speculation. The risk to Trump? The NYC DA has been investigating the Trump organization for years. Tax and business fraud have been at the core of that investigation. ex. Did Trump overvalue his business losses when claiming losses on his returns? Did Trump overvalue his assets when applying for bank loans?

Access to these previously secret tax records will allow the DA to bring charges, or not, against the Trump organization. Will those charges be be forthcoming? I don’t know. But, the info will now be available for a prosecutorial decision.

My guess: Charges will be filed against the Trump organization. Will they be successful? I don’t know. But, they will clearly dent the Trump brand by formally labeling the Trump name as a participant in fraud. Not helpful for DJT’s continuing influence on the Republican Party or interest in running again in 2024.
 
Well thier hands were tied. It would set a horrible precident. Presidents are not above the law in the US.

I am already disappointed in the emoluments decision. That set a horrible precident for future presidents regardless of party.

This president was a real shit show!
 
With no dissent, the Supreme Court today denied Trump’s appeal to avoid disclosure of his taxes to NYC DA Cyrus Vance.

Yikes! Another defeat for the Trump legal team and another potential hit to his post presidential legal issues.

Look out!
I’m very interested in what they think they’ll find? Seriously he’s been audited over and over by the IRS. If the IRS didn’t find anything what the hell do the prosecutors in NYC think they’re going to find?
 
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I’m very interested in what they think they’ll find? Seriously he’s been audited over and over by the IRS. If the IRS didn’t find anything what the hell do the prosecutors in NYC think they’re going to find?

This is in relation to a grand jury investigation, not a casual audit about whether he paid enough taxes. This will deal with money laundering through transnational property sales.
 
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Not sure of your point, HJ.

The SCOTUS decision is clear. No speculation. The risk to Trump? The NYC DA has been investigating the Trump organization for years. Tax and business fraud have been at the core of that investigation. ex. Did Trump overvalue his business losses when claiming losses on his returns? Did Trump overvalue his assets when applying for bank loans?

Access to these previously secret tax records will allow the DA to bring charges, or not, against the Trump organization. Will those charges be be forthcoming? I don’t know. But, the info will now be available for a prosecutorial decision.

My guess: Charges will be filed against the Trump organization. Will they be successful? I don’t know. But, they will clearly dent the Trump brand by formally labeling the Trump name as a participant in fraud. Not helpful for DJT’s continuing influence on the Republican Party or interest in running again in 2024.
You used the word “secret” like somehow nobody has seen these lol. Ahhh the IRS has them lol. It kind of comes off as a fishing expedition and they better be real careful because doing things like leaking tax documents can have some real nasty discourse in the civil courts.

Id also argue since he has already been audited by a federal agency there are zero grounds for a review by a separate federal court.

We have heard all of these rumors for years now and Trump having been President would only prevent him from being taken into custody not actually being investigated and evidence being obtained. So if what you’re saying is true then what the hell have they been doing for the last 4 years?

It literally cracks me up!
 
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This is in relation to a grand jury investigation, not a casual audit about whether he paid enough taxes. This will deal with money laundering through transnational property sales.
You apparently don’t know how the audit process works lol. If an auditor finds what appears to be criminal violations they will then pass the case onto their criminal investigations division who will take that evidence and go forward with criminal proceedings. I did one here two years ago and assisted IRS on a tax evasion case. It sure as hell doesn’t take 4 years lol. Took me about 4 months to put my case together.

Also a Grand Jury is not a investigation unit or team lol. They’re a sitting body of jurors who hear evidence presented by law enforcement to determine whether probable cause exist to go forward and issue indictments.
 
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You apparently don’t know how the audit process works lol. If an auditor finds what appears to be criminal violations they will then pass the case onto their criminal investigations division who will take that evidence and go forward with criminal proceedings. I did one here two years ago and assisted IRS on a tax evasion case. It sure as hell doesn’t take 4 years lol. Took me about 4 months to put my case together.

Also a Grand Jury is not a investigation unit or team lol. They’re a sitting body of jurors who hear evidence presented by law enforcement to determine whether probable cause exist to go forward and issue indictments.
unique

Cashville,
Raoul2 knows nothing about anything. I have never seen a single unique opinion from him. He, or his bot named Raoul2, do nothing but recite DNC talking points.

Make your own test. Ask Raoul2 what the approximate weather is anywhere? See if he can answer with anything but a National weather service report. I am not saying that if fhe says 85 degrees and partly cloudy, anyone jump on him for saying 83 degrees and cloudy, but he can never answer with anything but a ROBO answer?
thing
Common Rauol, prove me wrong? What is the weather in Miami a today? Give us a unique opinion about food. Tell us about the best Burger near you, or whether you prefer Popeyes, ChikFiLA or Wendy's Chicken Sandwiches?
 
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Not sure of your point, HJ.

The SCOTUS decision is clear. No speculation. The risk to Trump? The NYC DA has been investigating the Trump organization for years. Tax and business fraud have been at the core of that investigation. ex. Did Trump overvalue his business losses when claiming losses on his returns? Did Trump overvalue his assets when applying for bank loans?

Access to these previously secret tax records will allow the DA to bring charges, or not, against the Trump organization. Will those charges be be forthcoming? I don’t know. But, the info will now be available for a prosecutorial decision.

My guess: Charges will be filed against the Trump organization. Will they be successful? I don’t know. But, they will clearly dent the Trump brand by formally labeling the Trump name as a participant in fraud. Not helpful for DJT’s continuing influence on the Republican Party or interest in running again in 2024.
Trump brand already dented the day he entered politics. Time will tell on DA case. I'm sure many will be sitting on pins and needles waiting. I hope Hunter Biden and King Joe are next.......................since this seems to be where are country is headed.
 
Well thier hands were tied. It would set a horrible precident. Presidents are not above the law in the US.

I am already disappointed in the emoluments decision. That set a horrible precident for future presidents regardless of party.

This president was a real shit show!
Emoluments Clause was written way back when we were breaking free from the King of England. There has never been a case with it that I know of and should not have been one filed against Trump. It was and still is a bunch of BS they threw at the man and fools like you still believe it.
 
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This is in relation to a grand jury investigation, not a casual audit about whether he paid enough taxes. This will deal with money laundering through transnational property sales.
That is 100% FALSE! This investigation centers around whether Trump Organization over valued assets for loan purposes while under valuing the same assets for tax purposes.
 
unique

Cashville,
Raoul2 knows nothing about anything. I have never seen a single unique opinion from him. He, or his bot named Raoul2, do nothing but recite DNC talking points.

Make your own test. Ask Raoul2 what the approximate weather is anywhere? See if he can answer with anything but a National weather service report. I am not saying that if fhe says 85 degrees and partly cloudy, anyone jump on him for saying 83 degrees and cloudy, but he can never answer with anything but a ROBO answer?
thing
Common Rauol, prove me wrong? What is the weather in Miami a today? Give us a unique opinion about food. Tell us about the best Burger near you, or whether you prefer Popeyes, ChikFiLA or Wendy's Chicken Sandwiches?
Please see my post below responding to Raoul the fool.
 
That is 100% FALSE! This investigation centers around whether Trump Organization over valued assets for loan purposes while under valuing the same assets for tax purposes.
and this.

It means that the grand jury investigation into alleged hush money payments and other issues will no longer be hampered by Trump's fight to keep the documents secret.
 
Emoluments Clause was written way back when we were breaking free from the King of England. There has never been a case with it that I know of and should not have been one filed against Trump. It was and still is a bunch of BS they threw at the man and fools like you still believe it.
So was our constitution. Written around the same time. What's your point? Hopefully not that this isn't the only president stupid enough to break this law in hundreds of years.... lol.

Listen.. these laws are on the books with good reason. We can't have you profit monetarily off the office. I don't care what party you belong to. This isn't a Jim crow law or a law about how you can marry your sister. It's a real constitutional law.
 
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This is in relation to a grand jury investigation, not a casual audit about whether he paid enough taxes. This will deal with money laundering through transnational property sales.
The funny thing is his base really believed his bullshit and still do. Being investigated and being audited are two different worlds. The IRS audits you. The State or Feds investigate these types of crimes.

This not going to be pretty!
 
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I've never seen grown azz men grip the balls of a loser like Trump and feel satisfied. Smh
if Trump had been serious about the virus all the time and not just pick when he wanted to, he'd probably be in the white house again.

if he also would have said people shouldn't be killed by the cops when unarmed, that would have helped. 2020 was his downfall. he lost all the people that were in the middle and got him elected the 1st time. his far right base would vote for anybody with an R next to their name.

i still think it's funny how a bratty guy from New York who doesn't give 2 shits about religion fooled so many in the south to the point that the man could do no wrong.
 
if Trump had been serious about the virus all the time and not just pick when he wanted to, he'd probably be in the white house again.

if he also would have said people shouldn't be killed by the cops when unarmed, that would have helped. 2020 was his downfall. he lost all the people that were in the middle and got him elected the 1st time. his far right base would vote for anybody with an R next to their name.

i still think it's funny how a bratty guy from New York who doesn't give 2 shits about religion fooled so many in the south to the point that the man could do no wrong.


I couldn't have said it better. Well said.
 
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They're all still brainwashed. The bubble will finally burst once the orange gimp is indicted.

The thing that always amazed me is the rationale these people use to excuse people of privilege like Donald J Trump. When anyone holds him accountable he is the victim. Dems have been trying to get him from day 1 blah blah blah. No care if he is actually wrong. Let some black dude try to cross the street or do anything and get killed he should be obeying the law....LMAO. They don't even see this kind of racist hipocrisy.
 
Allowing partisan state DAs to persecute the executive branch weakens the office of the President for both Dems and Repubs. Very bad precedent.
 
Over valuing of assets for loans yet I don't know what lender is loaning millions of $'s without a 3rd party appraisal. Maybe the DA doesn't know how Real Estate loans work.?
 
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Over valuing of assets for loans yet I don't know what lender is loaning millions of $'s without a 3rd party appraisal. Maybe the DA doesn't know how Real Estate loans work.?
LMAO.....Please tell me you are just joking and fkn around with us? Please tell me you aren't sitting here trying to hold others accountable for what Donald Trump did to break the law? This is just some of the saddest shit I have ever seen. What is it this dude can't do for you not to lick his boots? That is NOT how real estate works.

You are not expect to over value property to fraudulently receive inflated loan approvals. I assure you there is a reason nobody in America would loan Donald J. Trump money. He had no other place to get money except from Russia and they were laundering money. That is obviously at the crux of the investigation. However....that's just how we got there. Cheating people! Why do you think he fought so hard not to show his taxes all these years? Because he is a POS and has been for decades and the taxes show this.
 
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LMAO.....Please tell me you are just joking and fkn around with us? Please tell me you aren't sitting here trying to hold others accountable for what Donald Trump did to break the law? This is just some of the saddest shit I have ever seen. What is it this dude can't do for you not to lick his boots? That is NOT how real estate works.

You are not expect to over value property to fraudulently receive inflated loan approvals. I assure you there is a reason nobody in America would loan Donald J. Trump money. He had no other place to get money except from Russia and they were laundering money. That is obviously at the crux of the investigation. However....that's just how we got there. Cheating people! Why do you think he fought so hard not to show his taxes all these years? Because he is a POS and has been for decades and the taxes show this.
Just to be clear CD; you think Real Estate owners or buyers applying for loans are the very people who affix the valuation of the Real Estate for the purpose of a loan? So I can just tell the bank that my condo is worth 1.5 million when it's real value is 1 million? Oh my it just gets dumber and dumber on here.
 
Just to be clear CD; you think Real Estate owners or buyers applying for loans are the very people who affix the valuation of the Real Estate for the purpose of a loan? So I can just tell the bank that my condo is worth 1.5 million when it's real value is 1 million? Oh my it just gets dumber and dumber on here.
No...and I never said they were. But they are responsible for what they submit to the IRS. Any fool knows this. What you are saying here is like me saying well, my tax accountant submitted the taxes so they are supposed to do a good job if they defrauded the government oh well? Even if I benefit. YOU ARE STILL ACCOUNTABLE.

This is the thing with Trump and people like yourself. You want to NEVER HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS DECISIONS....it is everyone else at fault. However, when it comes to anyone else. They are responsible. If it is a young black kid dying in the streets, he should have never resisted. He should have complied with the law. He shouldn't be doing this or that.

Do you see the hypocrisy here? You are accountable for the things you do. You are accountable for what you put on your taxes and submit to the IRS......PERIOD! Not an appraiser. You are responsible the people you hire when you are in charge.
 
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if Trump had been serious about the virus all the time and not just pick when he wanted to, he'd probably be in the white house again.

if he also would have said people shouldn't be killed by the cops when unarmed, that would have helped. 2020 was his downfall. he lost all the people that were in the middle and got him elected the 1st time. his far right base would vote for anybody with an R next to their name.

i still think it's funny how a bratty guy from New York who doesn't give 2 shits about religion fooled so many in the south to the point that the man could do no wrong.
Listen Trump is a big mouth asshole. Everyone knows that and it’s no secret. But if you think he was being given any kind of a fair shake from the media I think you should probably unplug for a while.

Meanwhile Uncle Joe gets softballs tossed to him and literally nothing is ever mentioned about some of the biggest scandals in the history of our country. I.e. selling political influence to a foreign advisory all the while his new shiny policies benefit that country. Imagine that. It’s all right in front everyones face. Some see it. Some chose not to see it and some are just stupid.
 
Listen Trump is a big mouth asshole. Everyone knows that and it’s no secret. But if you think he was being given any kind of a fair shake from the media I think you should probably unplug for a while.

Meanwhile Uncle Joe gets softballs tossed to him and literally nothing is ever mentioned about some of the biggest scandals in the history of our country. I.e. selling political influence to a foreign advisory all the while his new shiny policies benefit that country. Imagine that. It’s all right in front everyones face. Some see it. Some chose not to see it and some are just stupid.

He's been given a very fair shake from the press relative to the things he's said and done. There are norms that the media abides by and when they are violated by a politician on a daily basis, they will then start covering those violations. Things like referring to Mexicans as rapists, grabbing women by the pussy, avoiding criticizing Vladimir Putin at all costs, attempting to extort a foreign leader to help him dig up dirt on a domestic rival, attempting to pressure the head of the FBI to look into Trump's corruption, rejecting the wearing of masks, referring to information that doesn't suit his persona agenda as "fake news" - we could go on. These things will get covered by the media and and if they are negative then Trump has no one but himself to blame.
 
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No...and I never said they were. But they are responsible for what they submit to the IRS. Any fool knows this. What you are saying here is like me saying well, my tax accountant submitted the taxes so they are supposed to do a good job if they defrauded the government oh well? Even if I benefit. YOU ARE STILL ACCOUNTABLE.

This is the thing with Trump and people like yourself. You want to NEVER HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS DECISIONS....it is everyone else at fault. However, when it comes to anyone else. They are responsible. If it is a young black kid dying in the streets, he should have never resisted. He should have complied with the law. He shouldn't be doing this or that.

Do you see the hypocrisy here? You are accountable for the things you do. You are accountable for what you put on your taxes and submit to the IRS......PERIOD! Not an appraiser. You are responsible the people you hire when you are in charge.
But you don’t know what’s in his corporate nor personal taxes now do you? Remember when Rachel Maddow had her prime time trump tax reveal and ended up looking like a jack ass?
 
But you don’t know what’s in his corporate nor personal taxes now do you? Remember when Rachel Maddow had her prime time trump tax reveal and ended up looking like a jack ass?
Actually no she didn't. That's how I suspect it will play out in the end too. Why do you think this got to the supreme court? People don't fight so hard to not show their taxes if there is nothing to see. Any fool knows this.

We are pretty sure when people that know what they are doing look at this, they will find exactly what they are looking for.
 
Actually no she didn't. That's how I suspect it will play out in the end too. Why do you think this got to the supreme court? People don't fight so hard to not show their taxes if there is nothing to see. Any fool knows this.

We are pretty sure when people that know what they are doing look at this, they will find exactly what they are looking for.
Her reveal showed he paid millions and a higher % then Obama and she looked like the fool she is
 
Her reveal showed he paid millions and a higher % then Obama and she looked like the fool she is
No she looked like a fool to people like YOURSELF.....because Obama has absolutely nothing to do with this. Yet, you want to believe he does.
 
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