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The law applies to ALL minors, not just those caught up in prostitution/sex slave rings. ALL minors!!! How on earth do you not see incentives created for those who are not being trafficked? As it is, kids forced into prostitution rings are already treated as victims which everyone agrees they are.. Now you peeps have created all sorts of possibilities where minors can advertise on say craigslist without fear of the law, or hit the streets where God knows what happens to them. You and Cems52 are fine with this?

Let me give you a scenario and please chime in.

Let’s say there is this little 14-year-old girl who we will call canesrule21'ships. One day, canesrule21'ships is watching the Kardashians where she sees this neato shirt that Kim Kardashian is wearing. Canesrule21'ships goes to daddy and says: “daddy, daddy, daddy, I want to buy the same shirt Kim is wearing but it costs 100 bucks.” Daddy says: “honey, money doesn’t grow on trees and that’s expensive for a t-shirt. You need to work for a living.”

Now, canesrule21'ships is in quite a conundrum. How does she get the money to buy the t-shirt. She first thinks: “well, I can shop lift and sell everything I steal to get me closer to my goal……but nah, its not worth it because I can be arrested.” Then she has a second thought: ”maybe I can get some of my friends, especially the male ones, to help me rob some people…….but nah, I can get arrested for that also.” “How about selling drugs….nah, once again it would be slammer time.” Then she thinks: “If only I knew how to steal a car…..but nah, that wouldn’t work anyways because again I can be arrested.”

Suddenly, a light bulb goes off in canesrule21'ships’s head where she says to herself: “hey, I can sell my goodies with no repercussions whatsoever.” So, she picks up the phone and calls Daddy’s friend: “hello, Cems52, this is canesrule21’ships, I really want that Kardashian shirt so I will meet you at your place at 4pm. Oh by the way, I am wearing that pink dress you love so much.”

Voila, two days later canesrule’21ships has the shirt she desires. After all, under California law, in this scenario canesrule21'ships is the victim because all she did was watch Kim Kardashian wear this neato t-shirt on tv. Thank God the liberals are protecting our victims.

Please note that the names and places in the above scenario have been changed to protect the privacy of all those involved.
And you support Milos. That explains it. A fellow pedasterer or just a sissy who likes boys?
 
You're a moron. A bigger moron than I could ever imagine. Not a retard like Ozana because you write coherent sentences.But unquestionably deplorably stupid by any reasonable measure. Do you think kids who out of necessity sell their bodies for money are the evil ones? No stupid it's the johns and pimps moron. SMDFH
You can continue with your potshots towards me all you want since its falling on deaf ears based on how I have seen you articulate points on the different forums (nothing to do with your grammar). For me at least, you're unimpressive. Although you wont admit it, I am pretty sure you know I am a level above you which is why you react the way you do.

Now, lets get to the meat and potatoes. I never said girls forced into prostitution are evil. Even girls that are not part of a ring and who decide to advertise on say craigslist are not evil either......they're teenagers who dont know sh*t. What this law does is effectively take away the biggest deterrent factor which would ordinarily give a young girl pause before she puts herself into a dangerous situation. Now that its legal for minors do you not see the incentive put in place for girls unattached to a ring to go out and make a few dollars?........while potentially running into seedy, dangerous guys that can exploit them or batter them? Can you fathom how many more pedophiles will flock to CA now that supply is able to meet demand. If other states seriously consider doing this then maybe I will hit a reset button and try to make sense of it.
 
You can continue with your potshots towards me all you want since its falling on deaf ears based on how I have seen you articulate points on the different forums (nothing to do with your grammar). For me at least, you're unimpressive. Although you wont admit it, I am pretty sure you know I am a level above you which is why you react the way you do.

Now, lets get to the meat and potatoes. I never said girls forced into prostitution are evil. Even girls that are not part of a ring and who decide to advertise on say craigslist are not evil either......they're teenagers who dont know sh*t. What this law does is effectively take away the biggest deterrent factor which would ordinarily give a young girl pause before she puts herself into a dangerous situation. Now that its legal for minors do you not see the incentive put in place for girls unattached to a ring to go out and make a few dollars?........while potentially running into seedy, dangerous guys that can exploit them or batter them? Can you fathom how many more pedophiles will flock to CA now that supply is able to meet demand. If other states seriously consider doing this then maybe I will hit a reset button and try to make sense of it.

This law does not facilitate pedophelia. Do you really believe a 13 to 16 year old girls will sell their body for a t shirt? The girls that do that are runaways, victims of abuse when young, or drug addicts. Do you think these kids know or care about the law given their circumstances? You're either very naive or hate young girls with problems. As a society we need to protect them not throw them into adult jails. Have a heart man.
 
The law applies to ALL minors, not just those caught up in prostitution/sex slave rings. ALL minors!!! How on earth do you not see incentives created for those who are not being trafficked? As it is, kids forced into prostitution rings are already treated as victims which everyone agrees they are.. Now you peeps have created all sorts of possibilities where minors can advertise on say craigslist without fear of the law, or hit the streets where God knows what happens to them. You and Cems52 are fine with this?

Let me give you a scenario and please chime in.

Let’s say there is this little 14-year-old girl who we will call canesrule21'ships. One day, canesrule21'ships is watching the Kardashians where she sees this neato shirt that Kim Kardashian is wearing. Canesrule21'ships goes to daddy and says: “daddy, daddy, daddy, I want to buy the same shirt Kim is wearing but it costs 100 bucks.” Daddy says: “honey, money doesn’t grow on trees and that’s expensive for a t-shirt. You need to work for a living.”

Now, canesrule21'ships is in quite a conundrum. How does she get the money to buy the t-shirt. She first thinks: “well, I can shop lift and sell everything I steal to get me closer to my goal……but nah, its not worth it because I can be arrested.” Then she has a second thought: ”maybe I can get some of my friends, especially the male ones, to help me rob some people…….but nah, I can get arrested for that also.” “How about selling drugs….nah, once again it would be slammer time.” Then she thinks: “If only I knew how to steal a car…..but nah, that wouldn’t work anyways because again I can be arrested.”

Suddenly, a light bulb goes off in canesrule21'ships’s head where she says to herself: “hey, I can sell my goodies with no repercussions whatsoever.” So, she picks up the phone and calls Daddy’s friend: “hello, Cems52, this is canesrule21’ships, I really want that Kardashian shirt so I will meet you at your place at 4pm. Oh by the way, I am wearing that pink dress you love so much.”

Voila, two days later canesrule’21ships has the shirt she desires. After all, under California law, in this scenario canesrule21'ships is the victim because all she did was watch Kim Kardashian wear this neato t-shirt on tv. Thank God the liberals are protecting our victims.

Please note that the names and places in the above scenario have been changed to protect the privacy of all those involved.

You, like most right wingers distort the facts like your leader, Comrade Trump. Here's what the law does and doesn't do.

The law does state that minors won't be treated as criminals if they are caught under such circumstances. However, state law makers say that distinction was necessary so that children aren't being blamed or punished for their situation.

They are instead to be treated as victims who can be placed into a safe environment by the Department of Social Services, keeping them out of the criminal justice system and potentially off the streets again forced into prostitution.

Your tawdry skit missed the mark with your poor examples of how "Susie" could earn money for this t-shirt. It's truly amazing how you failed to mention the possibility of this person getting a job at McDonald's to purchase this t-shirt. Does this mean right wingers only advocate a life of crime for an honest days work?

Here is the link, with the facts for your distorted representation of this law.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-california-law-does-not-legalize-child-prostitution-n701471
 
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Wow......I guess desperate times call for desperate measures......lol. You're citing individual occurrences where I am showing you that an entire state of liberals support taking away the main deterrence factor for minors to sell their bodies. We can go back and forth by bringing up names of individual pedophiles........but here you have a situation where I guess the Golden State was trying to increase tourism and stimulate the economy by keeping pedophiles from spending their money in Vietnam and Thailand. I guess the politicians in the Golden State are trying to "Make California Great Again."

Stop with your right wing lies and learn how to read all the facts not just the perspective of another dumbass Republican.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-california-law-does-not-legalize-child-prostitution-n701471
 
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And the low budget weirdo cartoons continue!! Cems the low life!! At his finest

Not as fine as this. Dumbass.

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You want me banned because your weak azz can't take the heat? Grow a pair.
Has zero to with me being weak, it's old Cems it really is. You never stay on topic, your nonstop with low resent cartoons, every post has some stupid 2nd grade insult. Your wasting everyone's time. Your pushing good posters away from threads with your classless mentality and a lot of people tired of it!!
 
Has zero to with me being weak, it's old Cems it really is. You never stay on topic, your nonstop with low resent cartoons, every post has some stupid 2nd grade insult. Your wasting everyone's time. Your pushing good posters away from threads with your classless mentality and a lot of people tired of it!!
Speak for yourself weak azz. I warned you. You can't stand up to my vicious left wing attacks. You surrender?
 
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Speak for yourself weak azz. I warned you. You can't stand up to my vicious left wing attacks. You surrender?
Lololol again you make a fool of yourself everyday!! Has nothing to do with a surrender your a waste of time. Your playing pick up sticks everyone else playing chess. I've tried to tell you nicely however your stupid comments are old. Yoir just not to smart!! Your dumb shit is old.
 
Lololol again you make a fool of yourself everyday!! Has nothing to do with a surrender your a waste of time. Your playing pick up sticks everyone else playing chess. I've tried to tell you nicely however your stupid comments are old. Yoir just not to smart!! Your dumb shit is old.
But smart enough to defeat your dumbazz every day of the week. You got anything left?
 
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Lololol again you make a fool of yourself everyday!! Has nothing to do with a surrender your a waste of time. Your playing pick up sticks everyone else playing chess. I've tried to tell you nicely however your stupid comments are old. Yoir just not to smart!! Your dumb shit is old.

"You're" a dumbazz. Learn the difference. "Your" mom borrowed "your" Trump dildo (the 3 inch fake cock).
 
You, like most right wingers distort the facts like your leader, Comrade Trump. Here's what the law does and doesn't do.

The law does state that minors won't be treated as criminals if they are caught under such circumstances. However, state law makers say that distinction was necessary so that children aren't being blamed or punished for their situation.

They are instead to be treated as victims who can be placed into a safe environment by the Department of Social Services, keeping them out of the criminal justice system and potentially off the streets again forced into prostitution.

Your tawdry skit missed the mark with your poor examples of how "Susie" could earn money for this t-shirt. It's truly amazing how you failed to mention the possibility of this person getting a job at McDonald's to purchase this t-shirt. Does this mean right wingers only advocate a life of crime for an honest days work?

Here is the link, with the facts for your distorted representation of this law.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-california-law-does-not-legalize-child-prostitution-n701471
You, like most right wingers distort the facts like your leader, Comrade Trump. Here's what the law does and doesn't do.

The law does state that minors won't be treated as criminals if they are caught under such circumstances. However, state law makers say that distinction was necessary so that children aren't being blamed or punished for their situation.

They are instead to be treated as victims who can be placed into a safe environment by the Department of Social Services, keeping them out of the criminal justice system and potentially off the streets again forced into prostitution.

Your tawdry skit missed the mark with your poor examples of how "Susie" could earn money for this t-shirt. It's truly amazing how you failed to mention the possibility of this person getting a job at McDonald's to purchase this t-shirt. Does this mean right wingers only advocate a life of crime for an honest days work?

Here is the link, with the facts for your distorted representation of this law.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-california-law-does-not-legalize-child-prostitution-n701471
What facts did I distort? That kids not part of a ring may now have an incentive to use craigslist or backpage? What about the dangers they face? What about the incentive for more kids to join the streets since there is no fear of arrest? The difference between you and I is that even though every now and then I like to ask my ladies to shave right above the equator......it seems like you support the idea of heading straight for the minnow pond. You should be proud of yourself that you're defending this.
 
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What about the kids using craigslist or backpage and who are not part of a prostitution ring? What about the dangers they face? What about the incentive for more kids to join the streets since there is no fear of arrest? The difference between you and I is that even though every now and then I like to ask my ladies to shave right above the equator......it seems like you support the idea of heading straight for the minnow pond. You should be proud.
TCane, I know you probabaky know this however Cems has been copy and pasting articles and passing them off as his own. Like the typical dishonest liberal he doesn't post an article and credit the author!! Which explains why many of his recent posts are in bold!! The guys a fraud!!
 
What about the kids using craigslist or backpage and who are not part of a prostitution ring? What about the dangers they face? What about the incentive for more kids to join the streets since there is no fear of arrest? The difference between you and I is that even though every now and then I like to ask my ladies to shave right above the equator......it seems like you support the idea of heading straight for the minnow pond. You should be proud.

I was hoping we could have a civil discussion without your typical right wing talking point of posters being pedophiles. I see now that will be impossible.

Typically, when right wingers resort to name calling is when they've had their azz handed to them. I gave you the facts around this law but you refused to accept them. Even your position around Craigslist misses the mark. The law does provide the support these kids need. Your use of the word "arrest" suggests only the police can handle this tragedy. In fact there are provisions to "arrest" these kids and ensure they aren't exploited regardless of how they obtained their John. Please read the bill again but not with right winger colored glasses.

I am appalled with your cavalier attitude of tagging people with the pedophile label. This is a serious problem that you and others continue to make light of. Stop this nonsense and stop spurring your hate across this board.
 
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I was hoping we could have a civil discussion without your typical right wing talking point of posters being pedophiles. I see now that will be impossible.

Typically, when right wingers resort to name calling is when they've had their azz handed to them. I gave you the facts around this law but you refused to accept them. Even your position around Craigslist misses the mark. The law does provide the support these kids need. Your use of the word "arrest" suggests only the police can handle this tragedy. In fact there are provisions to "arrest" these kids and ensure they aren't exploited regardless of how they obtained their John. Please read the bill again but not with right winger colored glasses.

I am appalled with your cavalier attitude of tagging people with the pedophile label. This is a serious problem that you and others continue to make light of. Stop this nonsense and stop spurring your hate across this board.
First off your nobody to be giving demands or telling people how to behave on the board! Your the most divisive person here!! Second your "right wing" excuse/ argument or whatever you want to call it is a cheap used up method of yours since you can't form in intelligent retort!! "Right wingers" is your lame answer for everything and like your lies, exaggerations and corny cartoons is low class like yourself!! And reading these boards everyday I've yet to see you hand anyone thier "azz", you generally get mocked and belittled all day and don't even realize it!!
 
TCane, I know you probabaky know this however Cems has been copy and pasting articles and passing them off as his own. Like the typical dishonest liberal he doesn't post an article and credit the author!! Which explains why many of his recent posts are in bold!! The guys a fraud!!


As usual you're a liar with no back bone.

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I was hoping we could have a civil discussion without your typical right wing talking point of posters being pedophiles. I see now that will be impossible.

Typically, when right wingers resort to name calling is when they've had their azz handed to them. I gave you the facts around this law but you refused to accept them. Even your position around Craigslist misses the mark. The law does provide the support these kids need. Your use of the word "arrest" suggests only the police can handle this tragedy. In fact there are provisions to "arrest" these kids and ensure they aren't exploited regardless of how they obtained their John. Please read the bill again but not with right winger colored glasses.

I am appalled with your cavalier attitude of tagging people with the pedophile label. This is a serious problem that you and others continue to make light of. Stop this nonsense and stop spurring your hate across this board.
I fully get it. What you dont seem to realize is that the law draws no distinction between minors caught up in a sex ring and minors who are not. If you dont like the term "arrest" then substitute it for "criminal prosecution" because no minor pimping themselves, regardless if they are part of a sex ring, can be criminally prosecuted. I agree that if someone is forced they should not be charged. However, this law takes away one of the biggest deterrent effects in place which probably keeps many minors from running away, or hitting the streets, or advertising on craigslist...etc. A big part of enacting criminal laws is to deter people from doing certain things. This law does not just address minors who are forced into sex. Its not hard to understand dude.
 
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I fully get it. What you dont seem to realize is that the law draws no distinction between minors caught up in a sex ring and minors who are not. If you dont like the term "arrest" then substitute it for "criminal prosecution' because no minor pimping themselves, regardless if they are part of a sex ring, can be criminally prosecuted. I agree that if someone is forced they should not be charged. However, this law takes away one of the biggest deterrent effects in place which probably keeps many minors from running away, or hitting the streets, or advertising on craigslist...etc. A big part of enacting criminal laws is to deter people from doing certain things. This law does not just address minors who are forced into sex. Its not hard to understand dude.
You went way way way over Cems head after "I get it" he's going to need a week to respond if he doesn't have this response read to him! He's voicing his special ball of his own face as we speak!! Then he will call you a racist and a right wingazz and think he beat you down and called you out!! The man(maybe) is a mess!!
 
As usual you're a liar with no back bone.

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Lolol more corny cartoons and weirdo pictures!! Yeah I lie. Ph.D?? Huge proporrty owner?? "I'm rich"??? All Cems fantasies!! The Parkland RV community must be proud your on patrol!! Lmfao!
And where did I lie? Your a phony! You copy and paste articles and try to pass it as your own!! Yeah zero backbone! None! Lolol
 
First off your nobody to be giving demands or telling people how to behave on the board! Your the most divisive person here!! Second your "right wing" excuse/ argument or whatever you want to call it is a cheap used up method of yours since you can't form in intelligent retort!! "Right wingers" is your lame answer for everything and like your lies, exaggerations and corny cartoons is low class like yourself!! And reading these boards everyday I've yet to see you hand anyone thier "azz", you generally get mocked and belittled all day and don't even realize it!!

You continue to demonstrate your ignorance with your temper tantrums and unintelligible posts. My frustration starts with your lack of education which is typical of loud mouth RIGHT WINGERS. You need to grow a pair and stop whining.

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I fully get it. What you dont seem to realize is that the law draws no distinction between minors caught up in a sex ring and minors who are not. If you dont like the term "arrest" then substitute it for "criminal prosecution' because no minor pimping themselves, regardless if they are part of a sex ring, can be criminally prosecuted. I agree that if someone is forced they should not be charged. However, this law takes away one of the biggest deterrent effects in place which probably keeps many minors from running away, or hitting the streets, or advertising on craigslist...etc. A big part of enacting criminal laws is to deter people from doing certain things. This law does not just address minors who are forced into sex. Its not hard to understand dude.
Thank you for a coherent and responsible post. Here's my response.

I think you like me do not want kids exploited in this manner. I also feel there is some good in this bill and you have stated such. However, we disagree on one detail. I feel their are strong deterrents in the bill to ensure kids do not resort to this life style. From your perspective "locking them up" (couldn't resist) is the best deterrent. Does it make a difference if the kid is behind bars or in a juvenile facility?
 
Lolol more corny cartoons and weirdo pictures!! Yeah I lie. Ph.D?? Huge proporrty owner?? "I'm rich"??? All Cems fantasies!! The Parkland RV community must be proud your on patrol!! Lmfao!
And where did I lie? Your a phony! You copy and paste articles and try to pass it as your own!! Yeah zero backbone! None! Lolol

You are embarrassing yourself with your incoherent posts. Stop the madness by stopping these senseless posts.


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You continue to demonstrate your ignorance with your temper tantrums and unintelligible posts. My frustration starts with your lack of education which is typical of loud mouth RIGHT WINGERS. You need to grow a pair and stop whining.

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Again if I'm uneducated according to you why is it I make you look stupid everyday?? And the rest of your post is typical stupid Cems dressing on the board!!
 
You are embarrassing yourself with your incoherent posts. Stop the madness by stopping these senseless posts.


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I.E. making you look foolish!! It's funny Cems your always telling people they lie, don't make sense yet your always defending yourself? Weird
And creepy use of a photo. Your just a weird low classs guy. Period. No class.
 
Thank you for a coherent and responsible post. Here's my response.

I think you like me do not want kids exploited in this manner. I also feel there is some good in this bill and you have stated such. However, we disagree on one detail. I feel their are strong deterrents in the bill to ensure kids do not resort to this life style. From your perspective "locking them up" (couldn't resist) is the best deterrent. Does it make a difference if the kid is behind bars or in a juvenile facility?
Yeah the worlds oldest profession going to disappear due to legislation! And with Obama letting down the low income people you'll unfortunately see more kids forced into this repulsive life!!
 
Again if I'm uneducated according to you why is it I make you look stupid everyday?? And the rest of your post is typical stupid Cems dressing on the board!!


Stop whining to the folks on this board about how I dress down your azz every day. Take a vacation.

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I.E. making you look foolish!! It's funny Cems your always telling people they lie, don't make sense yet your always defending yourself? Weird
And creepy use of a photo. Your just a weird low classs guy. Period. No class.

As long as you're posting bullshzzt, I'll post weird pictures. So stop posting.

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Thank you for a coherent and responsible post. Here's my response.

I think you like me do not want kids exploited in this manner. I also feel there is some good in this bill and you have stated such. However, we disagree on one detail. I feel their are strong deterrents in the bill to ensure kids do not resort to this life style. From your perspective "locking them up" (couldn't resist) is the best deterrent. Does it make a difference if the kid is behind bars or in a juvenile facility?
Some times I have my days and I inadvertently lumped you together with the other dude i was arguing with, so for that I apologize.

To answer your question the key phrase is “criminal prosecution.” The new law will allow a minor to be detained for a short period of time to determine if their environment is unstable. I do not believe they are sent to any traumatic place like juvi or any place with bars. This can easily set up situations where after kids are immediately released from whatever safe place there being held at they will have no fear of reprisal and go right back on the streets. Say you’re a minor caught 5 times…….there is a threat of an extended term in juvi under the old law which usually happens with a habitual offender to create a deterrence for others. How long can these kids be kept by the state before they are released since they wont be charged? In reality the test of time will determine how things go with this law, but I would be surprised if we don’t see more and more kids turning tricks because of it. Parenting is tough enough, and when you teach your kids right from wrong some of those principles are drawn from laws. But when you have a law which tells your kids its ok to turn tricks, a parent’s job just became tougher.
 
Some times I have my days and I inadvertently lumped you together with the other dude i was arguing with, so for that I apologize.

To answer your question the key phrase is “criminal prosecution.” The new law will allow a minor to be detained for a short period of time to determine if their environment is unstable. I do not believe they are sent to any traumatic place like juvi or any place with bars. This can easily set up situations where after kids are immediately released from whatever safe place there being held at they will have no fear of reprisal and go right back on the streets. Say you’re a minor caught 5 times…….there is a threat of an extended term in juvi under the old law which usually happens with a habitual offender to create a deterrence for others. How long can these kids be kept by the state before they are released since they wont be charged? In reality the test of time will determine how things go with this law, but I would be surprised if we don’t see more and more kids turning tricks because of it. Parenting is tough enough, and when you teach your kids right from wrong some of those principles are drawn from laws. But when you have a law which tells your kids its ok to turn tricks, a parent’s job just became tougher.


I don't disagree with your post. Although my kids are older, I can understand any parent's concerns or society in general. I have additional questions like you before I would support this bill or any in general.

Good discussion and we didn't call each other names.
 
I don't disagree with your post. Although my kids are older, I can understand any parent's concerns or society in general. I have additional questions like you before I would support this bill or any in general.

Good discussion and we didn't call each other names.
The day is not over yet....lol.
 
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